Southwest California area forecast discussion National Weather Service Los Angeles/Oxnard California 1100 am PDT Thursday may 23 2013 ..updated aviation discussion... Synopsis... Gusty northwest winds will continue today across the mountains...deserts...and portions of the central coast. An area of low pressure will linger over the western United States through early next week with areas of night through morning low clouds and fog. Temperatures will stay below normal through early next week...then a warming trend should begin by midweek. && Update... no significant changes to the forecast this morning. Low clouds were across valleys and coasts of Ventura and Los Angeles counties with the marine inversion exceeding 4k feet. A couple of sprinkles have been reported as the clouds lift...but expect continued thinning and decrease in cloud cover today. Just a few minimal spots of clouds along the west Santa Barbara coast this morning. Virtually all areas are running 2-6 degrees cooler than yesterday with 6-10 degrees cooler across the mountains. Other story today are the gusty west to northwest winds. Already gusting to 40 miles per hour across the western av and picking up in the Lancaster area. Onshore pressure gradients slightly stronger at 16z compared to yesterday...but model gradients peak at a lower value today or about 1mb less. Will let all advisories continue as planned...including the central coast. First look at marine inversion forecast for Friday morning. WRF gradient forecasts have been rather poor and missed this morning by over 3mb...so little confidence in the very weak onshore gradient for tomorrow. Catalina eddy looks weaker for Friday and 30agl humidities are less organized but I don't see much mechanism to reduce the overall marine layer. Will play up similar areas for clouds in the morning. Likely to see a little deepening of the marine layer for Saturday. ***From previous discussion*** Long term (sun-wed)... models agree that on Sunday and Monday the upper low will open up into a trough and move slightly to the south. Models indicate that the onshore flow will also decrease and this should be the bigger weather factor. The decrease in onshore flow will allow earlier clearing and a few degrees of warming across the coasts and valleys. Desert and mountain temperatures will likely not change much. The Tuesday Wednesday forecast is a little murkier. Both models push the trough southward but the GFS is much faster and the ec is slower the ec in fact brings 24 hours of light rain to the area. This is a little extreme especially for this time of the year. Ramped up the clouds and cooled temperatures some but need to see some model run to run constancy before jumping on the rain bandwagon. && Aviation...23/1800z. Persistence forecast will keep a deep and rather weak marine layer over the area. MVFR to VFR ceilings over koxr and the la coast and valley sites will dissipate from 18z-20z today...although timing may differ by +/- 1 hour. North of pt Conception there is a 20% chance that MVFR ceilings will affect ksmx overnight. S of pt Conception expect MVFR ceilings to reform over koxr and la coast and valley sites...but the timing may differ +/- 2 hours from taf times. 10% chance that any of these sites will see VFR ceilings form overnight...or that only scattered lower clouds will develop. Periods of moderate to occasionally strong low-level wind shear and turbulence is possible at ksba after 23z. Klax...moderate to high confidence in 18z tafs. Broken VFR ceilings will scatter out through 20z. MVFR ceilings will return by 08z...with a 30% chance that timing will differ +/- 2 hours from taf times. Kbur...moderate confidence in 18z tafs. Broken VFR ceilings will scatter out through 22z. There is a 30% chance that VFR conds will continue through the overnight period. Otherwise MVFR ceilings are expected after 09z...but timing could differ +/- 2 hours from taf times && Lox watches/warnings/advisories... Wind Advisory (see laxnpwlox). Gale Warning (see laxmwwlox). Small Craft Advisory (see laxmwwlox). High surf advisory (see laxcfwlox). High rip current risk (see laxsrflox). && $$ Public...boldt/rorke aviation...Smith synopsis...seto Www.Weather.Gov/losangeles