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Still watching for a potential early-season Atlantic subtropical storm
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 19:10 GMT le 16 mai 2009 +1
The latest 00Z and 12Z runs of the GFS, UKMET, NOGAPS, and ECMWF global dynamical computer models continue to indicate the possibility of an early season subtropical storm forming in the Gulf of Mexico 3 - 7 days from now. A modest area of low shear air is expected to open up between the polar jet stream to the north and the subtropical jet stream to the south, between Cuba and the northern Gulf of Mexico. The models have not been consistent with the timing or the size of this low shear area, and I wouldn't be surprised to see them back off again from this forecast with Sunday's set of runs. Nevertheless, I'll call once again for a 10% chance of development of a subtropical depression in the eastern Gulf of Mexico, 4 - 7 days from now. There isn't much of a disturbance at present to look at--there are some scattered showers between Cuba and Jamaica, but they are under a hefty 30 knots of wind shear. These showers should gradually increase in intensity and areal coverage over the next two days, and phase space diagrams from Florida State University indicate that an extratropical low may form near the western tip of Cuba 2 - 3 days from now. The storm may then gradually transition to a subtropical or tropical system later in the week, if the shear is low enough. Even if the shear is high and the storm remains extratropical, it could be a substantial rain-maker where it comes ashore. The models target the northern Gulf Coast between Louisiana and the Florida Panhandle as the most likely landfall location, but it is too early to place any confidence in this track.

There is also about a 10% chance a subtropical storm may form in the mid-Atlantic a few hundred miles east of Bermuda. There, a large upper-level cold low has cut off from the jet stream, and it may spin in place long enough over the next week to develop a warm core and be classified as a subtropical storm. It is unlikely that a subtropical storm forming that far out in the Atlantic this early in the year would pose a threat to any land areas, with the possible exception of Bermuda.

Climatology of early-season Atlantic tropical cyclones
Tropical storms are uncommon in the Atlantic before June 1, with only 26 named storms on record between 1851 - 2008. Five of these have made it to hurricane strength, and only one--Hurricane Able of 1951--made it to major hurricane status. Last year's Tropical Storm Arthur may be the deadliest May tropical cyclone on record. Though only a 40 mph tropical storm at landfall, Arthur killed five people in Belize and caused $78 million in damage. Three early-season storms have brought hurricane-force winds to land. The March 1908 hurricane swept through the northern Lesser Antilles Islands as a Category 1 or 2 hurricane, destroying at least 24 boats and causing damage to buildings on St. Bartholomew. Hurricane Able of 1951 brought sustained winds of 90 - 95 mph to the northern Bahama Islands, but caused little damage. Hurricane 2 of May 1908 hit North Carolina's Outer Banks as a Category 1 hurricane, but also caused little damage.


Figure 1. Tracking map for the earliest hurricane to make landfall, the March 1908 hurricane in the northern Lesser Antilles Islands.

List of all early season (formed in January - May) Atlantic named storms
May 31, 2008: Tropical Storm Arthur
May 6, 2007: Subtropical Storm Andrea
April 18, 2003: Tropical Storm Ana
April 21, 1992: Subtropical Storm 1
May 6, 1981: Tropical Storm Arlene
January 18, 1978: Subtropical Storm 1
May 21, 1976: Subtropical Storm 1
May 23, 1972: Subtropical Storm Alpha
May 17, 1970: Hurricane Alma (Category 1)
May 28, 1959: Tropical Storm Arlene
February 2, 1953: Tropical Storm Alice
May 25, 1952: Tropical Storm 1
May 15, 1951: Hurricane Able (Category 3)
May 22, 1948: Tropical Storm 1
May 19, 1940: Tropical Storm 1
May 27, 1934: Tropical Storm 1
May 14, 1933: Tropical Storm 1
May 5, 1932: Tropical Storm 1
May 13, 1916: Tropical Storm 1
May 24, 1908: Hurricane 2 (Category 1)
March 6, 1908: Hurricane 1 (Category 2)
May 27, 1890: Tropical Storm 1
May 16, 1889: Hurricane 1 (Category 1)
May 17, 1887: Tropical Storm 2
May 15, 1887: Tropical Storm 1
May 30, 1865: Tropical Storm 1

I'll have an update Sunday.

Jeff Masters
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1. Drakoen 19:12 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Thanks for the update. Looks like we have something to definitely keep our eyes on
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2. IKE 19:14 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Appreciate the update.
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4. NorthxCakalaky 19:16 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Thanks for the update!
5. VAbeachhurricanes 19:16 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
good update Dr. thanks
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6. K8eCane 19:17 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
if only a 10% chance
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7. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 19:17 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
thanks for update doc
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8. SevereHurricane 19:17 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Quoting IKE:
Appreciate the update.


You were right IKE!
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9. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 19:20 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
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11. CaneWarning 19:22 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Thank you for the update!
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12. Patrap 19:25 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
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13. Patrap 19:26 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Crow anyone..LOL?

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14. weatherblog 19:26 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
He doesn't seem too sure with 10%.

I would say more like 50% based off how consistent the models have been.
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15. Stormchaser2007 19:28 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Quoting WeatherStudent:


more like a 70% chance at this stage in the game, but jeef migt be into to somehing with that 10% lol


70 is way to high. I would go with a conservative 30.
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16. NorthxCakalaky 19:29 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Quoting K8eCane:
if only a 10% chance

Its not that really low if you think about it. The storm has not really developed yet and is several days out from the potential of hitting any land area of the US. However, its not a high threat just an area to watch for development over the next few days. Any where from 10-30% seems reasonable today.It may increase every day or diminish again.
17. IKE 19:31 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
I think 10% is too low.

I think it will get designated at least a TD or STD...
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18. CaneWarning 19:31 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Dr. Masters is right, regardless of what the models say, the environment just doesn't seem conducive for much more than a sub-tropical storm.
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19. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 19:32 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
he got to go with 10 percent its out of season and unpredicable as to what exactly is going to happen models can and will change till something lasts 24hrs on the surface its all guess work
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20. hurricanemaniac123 19:33 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
I give the carribean system a 20-60% chance of developing to a TD or STD.

I give the Atlantic low a 10-40% chance of developing.
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21. Huracaneer 19:33 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Wow, all the models look consistently at something developing in the Gulf. Talked this morning with a local meteorologist from Bay News Channel 9 at a local Hurricane Preparedness fair and he thinks the upper air is too cold to support anything tropical. He thinks it will be subtropical and does not appear too worried about it. However, it may be time to put the hurricane preparation into high gear just in case.
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22. CaneWarning 19:34 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Quoting Huracaneer:
Wow, all the models look consistently at something developing in the Gulf. Talked this morning with a local meteorologist from Bay News Channel 9 at a local Hurricane Preparedness fair and he thinks the upper air is too cold to support anything tropical. He thinks it will be subtropical and does not appear too worried about it. However, it may be time to put the hurricane preparation into high gear just in case.


Which met?
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23. NorthxCakalaky 19:35 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
he got to go with 10 percent its out of season and unpredicable as to what exactly is going to happen models can and will change till something lasts 24hrs on the surface its all guess work



I agree. Hes just not jumping the gun because of what it looks like one day.
24. Huracaneer 19:38 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Mike Clay. Talked to him before, very nice and helpful.
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25. K8eCane 19:38 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
yes that explains it then
tomorrow he'll say 80% chance probably
right? lol
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26. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 19:40 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
latest 1km vis
AOI
19N/78W
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27. Patrap 19:40 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
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28. Huracaneer 19:40 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Quoting CaneWarning:


Which met?
Oops, forgot to quote you. It's Mike Clay at BayNews9
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29. K8eCane 19:40 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
definitely time for mah popcorn
mah coca cola
and mah screen saver
and be darned if it hasnt snuck up on me this year
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30. clwstmchasr 19:42 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
10% tells me that Dr. M. doesn't think something is going to develop at this time.

He believes that tomorrows runs will back off.

Let's see what tomorrow bring us.
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31. CaneWarning 19:45 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Quoting Huracaneer:
Mike Clay. Talked to him before, very nice and helpful.


He is good. I've met him a couple of times.
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32. stillwaiting 19:45 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
you have to look at the area surrounding this "disturbed weather" near cuba,not just the conditions over it,,I'd give this area a 10% chance,however the general SE GOM area I'd give a 25% chance of a STS or TS.....whateverforms it won't happen overnight and there will be plenty of time to track it....I'd bet on A higher likelyhood of development in the 96-144hr time period,imo....
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33. cchsweatherman 19:46 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
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34. Patrap 19:47 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
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35. Cavin Rawlins 19:49 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
definitely something to watch

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37. Cotillion 19:50 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Quoting IKE:
I think 10% is too low.

I think it will get designated at least a TD or STD...


If the Doc goes on holiday, we have Ana... given the track record!
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38. cchsweatherman 19:53 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Going to wait for tomorrow morning's computer models runs before I create my forecasts for the upcoming week on the CCHS Weather Center site. Even though I'm quite impressed by the model consensus on development near Florida, I really want to wait for better model consensus in terms of strength, track, and timing. No matter what, this will be a very difficult forecast to create, even for the NWS Local Offices in Florida and on the Gulf Coast.
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39. SouthALWX 19:53 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Hey patrap, if you're around, do you have a link to that max intensity chart? I seem to have misplaced it =(
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41. weatherblog 19:55 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Quoting cchsweatherman:
ECMWF Joins The Fray


Looks like it has it hitting South Florida then heading into the GOM.
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42. CaneWarning 19:55 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Quoting WeatherStudent:
bloggers any heads up of what i migth anticipate here in fort laddy-dady coming up next week?


Sun, clouds, rain, wind.
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43. Patrap 19:56 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Maximum Potential Hurricane Intensity


The maps display potential minimum pressure and maximum winds, calculated according to a method developed by Dr. Kerry Emanuel. Dissipative heating is handled according to a method described in Bister and Emanuel (1998). The maps are based on data from the 00Z global operational analysis from NCEP for the date shown on the plot. The top panel shows the potential minimum central pressure for a hurricane at any given location (in millibars). Only values less than 1000mb are shaded. Cyan squares indicate grid points where the algorithm failed to converge. Also shown are the sea surface temperatures (°C). The bottom panel shows the potential maximum wind speed expressed in terms of the type and severity of storm they would represent (TD = Tropical Depression, TS = Tropical Storm, H1-H5 = Hurricanes of category 1-5 on the Saffir-Simpson scale).
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44. CaneWarning 19:57 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Patrap, do they have links that show the potential compared to last year?
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45. hurricane23 19:58 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
How do i change the image next to my posts? Forgot
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46. cg2916 19:59 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
10%? NO way, Higher than that, at least 25-30%.
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47. Patrap 19:59 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
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48. SouthALWX 19:59 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
interesting, as of yesterday the northern gomex was almost entirely devoid of yellows, save for right up against the coast. BTW, ty buddy.
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49. extreme236 19:59 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Well long time no see...looks like maybe something interesting to watch out in the Atlantic now.
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50. Drakoen 20:00 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
extreme236 is back...!
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51. Cavin Rawlins 20:00 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Quoting extreme236:
Well long time no see...looks like maybe something interesting to watch out in the Atlantic now.


Welcome back!
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