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Still watching for a potential early-season Atlantic subtropical storm
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 19:10 GMT le 16 mai 2009 +1
The latest 00Z and 12Z runs of the GFS, UKMET, NOGAPS, and ECMWF global dynamical computer models continue to indicate the possibility of an early season subtropical storm forming in the Gulf of Mexico 3 - 7 days from now. A modest area of low shear air is expected to open up between the polar jet stream to the north and the subtropical jet stream to the south, between Cuba and the northern Gulf of Mexico. The models have not been consistent with the timing or the size of this low shear area, and I wouldn't be surprised to see them back off again from this forecast with Sunday's set of runs. Nevertheless, I'll call once again for a 10% chance of development of a subtropical depression in the eastern Gulf of Mexico, 4 - 7 days from now. There isn't much of a disturbance at present to look at--there are some scattered showers between Cuba and Jamaica, but they are under a hefty 30 knots of wind shear. These showers should gradually increase in intensity and areal coverage over the next two days, and phase space diagrams from Florida State University indicate that an extratropical low may form near the western tip of Cuba 2 - 3 days from now. The storm may then gradually transition to a subtropical or tropical system later in the week, if the shear is low enough. Even if the shear is high and the storm remains extratropical, it could be a substantial rain-maker where it comes ashore. The models target the northern Gulf Coast between Louisiana and the Florida Panhandle as the most likely landfall location, but it is too early to place any confidence in this track.

There is also about a 10% chance a subtropical storm may form in the mid-Atlantic a few hundred miles east of Bermuda. There, a large upper-level cold low has cut off from the jet stream, and it may spin in place long enough over the next week to develop a warm core and be classified as a subtropical storm. It is unlikely that a subtropical storm forming that far out in the Atlantic this early in the year would pose a threat to any land areas, with the possible exception of Bermuda.

Climatology of early-season Atlantic tropical cyclones
Tropical storms are uncommon in the Atlantic before June 1, with only 26 named storms on record between 1851 - 2008. Five of these have made it to hurricane strength, and only one--Hurricane Able of 1951--made it to major hurricane status. Last year's Tropical Storm Arthur may be the deadliest May tropical cyclone on record. Though only a 40 mph tropical storm at landfall, Arthur killed five people in Belize and caused $78 million in damage. Three early-season storms have brought hurricane-force winds to land. The March 1908 hurricane swept through the northern Lesser Antilles Islands as a Category 1 or 2 hurricane, destroying at least 24 boats and causing damage to buildings on St. Bartholomew. Hurricane Able of 1951 brought sustained winds of 90 - 95 mph to the northern Bahama Islands, but caused little damage. Hurricane 2 of May 1908 hit North Carolina's Outer Banks as a Category 1 hurricane, but also caused little damage.


Figure 1. Tracking map for the earliest hurricane to make landfall, the March 1908 hurricane in the northern Lesser Antilles Islands.

List of all early season (formed in January - May) Atlantic named storms
May 31, 2008: Tropical Storm Arthur
May 6, 2007: Subtropical Storm Andrea
April 18, 2003: Tropical Storm Ana
April 21, 1992: Subtropical Storm 1
May 6, 1981: Tropical Storm Arlene
January 18, 1978: Subtropical Storm 1
May 21, 1976: Subtropical Storm 1
May 23, 1972: Subtropical Storm Alpha
May 17, 1970: Hurricane Alma (Category 1)
May 28, 1959: Tropical Storm Arlene
February 2, 1953: Tropical Storm Alice
May 25, 1952: Tropical Storm 1
May 15, 1951: Hurricane Able (Category 3)
May 22, 1948: Tropical Storm 1
May 19, 1940: Tropical Storm 1
May 27, 1934: Tropical Storm 1
May 14, 1933: Tropical Storm 1
May 5, 1932: Tropical Storm 1
May 13, 1916: Tropical Storm 1
May 24, 1908: Hurricane 2 (Category 1)
March 6, 1908: Hurricane 1 (Category 2)
May 27, 1890: Tropical Storm 1
May 16, 1889: Hurricane 1 (Category 1)
May 17, 1887: Tropical Storm 2
May 15, 1887: Tropical Storm 1
May 30, 1865: Tropical Storm 1

I'll have an update Sunday.

Jeff Masters
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601. kmanislander 00:40 GMT le 17 mai 2009    
Pressure 1012.4 and rising under clear skies with no wind.

All the heavy weather off to the East of Grand Cayman
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602. WPBHurricane05 00:40 GMT le 17 mai 2009    
Hurricane Dust.

Latest SAL image- Link
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603. stormhank 00:40 GMT le 17 mai 2009    
Hi Drak, IKE, Storm W!! whats your latest thinking on system models r developing and potential track // impacts? i live up in fla panhandle area do u think we'll get soem rain from it?? thanks as always for any input
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605. Patrap 00:40 GMT le 17 mai 2009    

SREF Ensemble

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606. IKE 00:40 GMT le 17 mai 2009    
Kingston, JM (Airport)
Updated: 30 min 28 sec ago
Light Thunderstorms and Rain
79 °F
Light Thunderstorm Rain
Humidity: 78%
Dew Point: 72 °F
Wind: 30 mph from the ESE
Pressure: 29.89 in (Rising)

Visibility: 6.2 miles
UV: 0 out of 16
Clouds:
Mostly Cloudy 1600 ft
Scattered Clouds 2000 ft
Mostly Cloudy 3000 ft
(Above Ground Level)
Elevation: 30 ft
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607. melwerle 00:41 GMT le 17 mai 2009    
ok - i have to say WOOO HOOOOO to getting my java reinstalled after having my computer crash. I couldn't check out ANY of my weather links because - well - i don't know - i couldn't figure it out. Just said I couldn't do it. Daughter's b/f came over, installed java and i'm good to go! Now I feel like I can check out everything again with you guys...thank GOD.

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608. IKE 00:41 GMT le 17 mai 2009    
Quoting stormhank:
Hi Drak, IKE, Storm W!! whats your latest thinking on system models r developing and potential track // impacts? i live up in fla panhandle area do u think we'll get soem rain from it?? thanks as always for any input


I say yes.
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609. Stormchaser2007 00:41 GMT le 17 mai 2009    
GFS 84 hours:



NAM 84hours:
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610. severstorm 00:42 GMT le 17 mai 2009    
Hi Kman How ya doing?
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611. kmanislander 00:43 GMT le 17 mai 2009    
Hi there Drak

Looking more and more interesting all the time. If shear eases off another 15 mph in the NW Caribbean I think we would see convection really build and hold. Right now the shear is cutting across from the W and keeping the convection off to the E of where the axis seems to be establishing itself.
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612. Drakoen 00:43 GMT le 17 mai 2009    
Quoting stormhank:
Hi Drak, IKE, Storm W!! whats your latest thinking on system models r developing and potential track // impacts? i live up in fla panhandle area do u think we'll get soem rain from it?? thanks as always for any input


I'm thinking more along the lines of the 18z runs since the system is being instigated further south and east than the previous runs. It should move north as the prefrontal trough advects southward. This should allow the system to come over or adjacent to South Florida before entering the GOM. Intensification here is questionable as the system becomes better stacked with a large-scale 500mb low and a negatively tilted upper trough axis. Either way we're looking at totals between 3-5 inches.
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613. Drakoen 00:45 GMT le 17 mai 2009    
Quoting kmanislander:
Hi there Drak

Looking more and more interesting all the time. If shear eases off another 15 mph in the NW Caribbean I think we would see convection really build and hold. Right now the shear is cutting across from the W and keeping the convection off to the E of where the axis seems to be establishing itself.


We'll probably see some better consolidation tomorrow as shear decreases some more according to the latest GFS run.
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614. stormhank 00:45 GMT le 17 mai 2009    
i saw the 18z gfs taking it toward mobile area? and euro model too? I guess its too soon to say being it hasnt formed yet
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615. Cavin Rawlins 00:45 GMT le 17 mai 2009    
Not much under the bands of thunderstorms but a few knots higher the surrounding trades.

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616. kmanislander 00:45 GMT le 17 mai 2009    
Quoting severstorm:
Hi Kman How ya doing?


Doing great and hope the same is true for you.

Looks like an early season test for the models on tap
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618. Patrap 00:46 GMT le 17 mai 2009    
-- EMC Cyclogenesis Tracking Page --

Model Cycle: 2009051618


U.S. East Coast (last 4 cycles, lat/lon)

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619. Tazmanian 00:46 GMT le 17 mai 2009    
i think will have 90L by the end of the weekend am 100% sure of it
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620. melwerle 00:46 GMT le 17 mai 2009    
Can someone give me the cliff notes/spark notes of what is going on - I need to go back for the whole 13 pages to read up. Condensed version.
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621. kmanislander 00:47 GMT le 17 mai 2009    
Gotta run, time to throw a couple of rib eyes on the smoker grill !

back later
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622. Tazmanian 00:47 GMT le 17 mai 2009    
and i think there will be a 2% ch of 91L
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623. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 00:47 GMT le 17 mai 2009    
Quoting kmanislander:
Pressure 1012.4 and rising under clear skies with no wind.

All the heavy weather off to the East of Grand Cayman
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624. Patrap 00:48 GMT le 17 mai 2009    
I like mine Med-rare Kman.
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625. IKE 00:48 GMT le 17 mai 2009    
Quoting kmanislander:
Gotta run, time to throw a couple of rib eyes on the smoker grill !

back later


Dang that's sound good. I'll be there in about 30 minutes.
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626. Tazmanian 00:48 GMT le 17 mai 2009    
Quoting kmanislander:
Gotta run, time to throw a couple of rib eyes on the smoker grill !

back later




how do you like them cook???
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627. severstorm 00:48 GMT le 17 mai 2009    
Everything is great hear. Could use some of the wet stuff bone dry. Yep I'll be watching and enjoying all the fun on the blog.
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629. RMM34667 00:49 GMT le 17 mai 2009    
609. Stormchaser2007 12:41 AM GMT on May 17, 2009
GFS 84 hour

hope that goes a tiny bit south.. for it's own good tampa needs to put that shield down.
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630. stormhank 00:50 GMT le 17 mai 2009    
this thing may do a track like fay..which would give all of florida beneficial rains
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631. Tazmanian 00:50 GMT le 17 mai 2009    
Quoting WeatherStudent:



Oohhh and it you aren't? We'll still lova ya.



ok JFV
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632. RMM34667 00:52 GMT le 17 mai 2009    
Quoting stormhank:
this thing may do a track like fay..which would give all of florida beneficial rains


yeah all of FL except tampa bay. we got next to nothing from fay!
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633. Ossqss 00:53 GMT le 17 mai 2009    
Side note for you Redoubt watchers, there has been over 30 quakes of significance in the area near Kodiak Island Alaska (just down plate from Redoubt) in the last 24hrs. Something is going on up there. The Texas quake earlier spurred my interest.

Hopefully, tomorrow we will have some substantial visible support for the models on the area moving towards the gulf. L8R

Link
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634. hurricanehanna 00:54 GMT le 17 mai 2009    
Evening Storm - long time no see! Congrats on the engagement. Glad to see you back with us for the H-season
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635. Patrap 00:54 GMT le 17 mai 2009    
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636. spathy 00:55 GMT le 17 mai 2009    
Storm and others. Am I missing something? this seems,As of near future to be the possibility of nothing more than a week nor'easter type storm in Gulf or east there of? Except the possibility of flooding rains.And windy conditions. And I am really asking. Am I missing something?
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637. Littleninjagrl 00:55 GMT le 17 mai 2009    
RMM..that's what I'm worried about. Tampa always misses out on the good stuff lol.
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638. Cavin Rawlins 00:56 GMT le 17 mai 2009    
One thing I've notice, is that the advancing upper trough over the Central CONUS is critical to the cyclogensis of this feature. As dips across the area, the base becomes cut-off and secluded advecting PV into the region (which is needed for vorticity). Also it helps to split the jet causing a good size region of low wind shear.
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639. hurricanehanna 00:56 GMT le 17 mai 2009    
My husband just passed by the computer and said, oh no...it's the THE BLOG ...time for a beer!
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640. cchsweatherman 00:58 GMT le 17 mai 2009    
Quoting Weather456:
Not much under the bands of thunderstorms but a few knots higher the surrounding trades.



Thats most likely due to the fact that this remains mainly a mid-level system at the moment. Once it gains some surface reflection tomorrow, we should see the wind speeds increase.
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641. Patrap 00:58 GMT le 17 mai 2009    
CONUS front on the Move,the other Player comes on down.

Did he leave you a Cold one as he passed hhanna..?
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642. Cavin Rawlins 00:59 GMT le 17 mai 2009    
And according to where the storm develops, if it does and tracks, the landmasses of Cuba and Florida are other factors.
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643. dearmas 00:59 GMT le 17 mai 2009    
Quoting RMM34667:


yeah all of FL except tampa bay. we got next to nothing from fay!


Well here in Rivewview Florida we have had nothing but rain since Tuesday :) and looks like more to come all this week
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644. hurricanehanna 00:59 GMT le 17 mai 2009    
Quoting Patrap:

CONUS front on the Move,the other Player comes on down.

Did he leave you a Cold one as he passed Hhanna..?

No, had to grab an Abita Strawberry myself (luckily the fridge is only 5 feet away!)
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645. Patrap 01:00 GMT le 17 mai 2009    
Excellent Choice.. ummmm Abita,
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646. Cavin Rawlins 01:00 GMT le 17 mai 2009    
Quoting cchsweatherman:


Thats most likely due to the fact that this remains mainly a mid-level system at the moment. Once it gains some surface reflection tomorrow, we should see the wind speeds increase.


yea I know
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647. hurricanehanna 01:01 GMT le 17 mai 2009    
Quoting Patrap:
Excellent Choice.. ummmm Abita,


Why thank you. I never start Hurricane season without it!
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648. stormhank 01:01 GMT le 17 mai 2009    
Im no expert by no means but, I thought what ever formed was gonna do so after the front comin down across SE US passed down into GOM?
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649. Patrap 01:02 GMT le 17 mai 2009    
I may have to add that to my Prep List on me Blog..LOL
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650. Drakoen 01:02 GMT le 17 mai 2009    
Looks like tonight's descending quicksat pass will catch the area. At most we can look for is a surface trough.
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651. beell 01:03 GMT le 17 mai 2009    
Quoting Drakoen:


I'm thinking more along the lines of the 18z runs since the system is being instigated further south and east than the previous runs. It should move north as the prefrontal trough advects southward. This should allow the system to come over or adjacent to South Florida before entering the GOM. Intensification here is questionable as the system becomes better stacked with a large-scale 500mb low and a negatively tilted upper trough axis. Either way we're looking at totals between 3-5 inches.


And then we watch it mill around onshore-waiting to get picked up by the next trough over the CONUS. And the rain-inducing interaction with its attendant cold-front.
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