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Still watching for a potential early-season Atlantic subtropical storm
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 19:10 GMT le 16 mai 2009 +1
The latest 00Z and 12Z runs of the GFS, UKMET, NOGAPS, and ECMWF global dynamical computer models continue to indicate the possibility of an early season subtropical storm forming in the Gulf of Mexico 3 - 7 days from now. A modest area of low shear air is expected to open up between the polar jet stream to the north and the subtropical jet stream to the south, between Cuba and the northern Gulf of Mexico. The models have not been consistent with the timing or the size of this low shear area, and I wouldn't be surprised to see them back off again from this forecast with Sunday's set of runs. Nevertheless, I'll call once again for a 10% chance of development of a subtropical depression in the eastern Gulf of Mexico, 4 - 7 days from now. There isn't much of a disturbance at present to look at--there are some scattered showers between Cuba and Jamaica, but they are under a hefty 30 knots of wind shear. These showers should gradually increase in intensity and areal coverage over the next two days, and phase space diagrams from Florida State University indicate that an extratropical low may form near the western tip of Cuba 2 - 3 days from now. The storm may then gradually transition to a subtropical or tropical system later in the week, if the shear is low enough. Even if the shear is high and the storm remains extratropical, it could be a substantial rain-maker where it comes ashore. The models target the northern Gulf Coast between Louisiana and the Florida Panhandle as the most likely landfall location, but it is too early to place any confidence in this track.

There is also about a 10% chance a subtropical storm may form in the mid-Atlantic a few hundred miles east of Bermuda. There, a large upper-level cold low has cut off from the jet stream, and it may spin in place long enough over the next week to develop a warm core and be classified as a subtropical storm. It is unlikely that a subtropical storm forming that far out in the Atlantic this early in the year would pose a threat to any land areas, with the possible exception of Bermuda.

Climatology of early-season Atlantic tropical cyclones
Tropical storms are uncommon in the Atlantic before June 1, with only 26 named storms on record between 1851 - 2008. Five of these have made it to hurricane strength, and only one--Hurricane Able of 1951--made it to major hurricane status. Last year's Tropical Storm Arthur may be the deadliest May tropical cyclone on record. Though only a 40 mph tropical storm at landfall, Arthur killed five people in Belize and caused $78 million in damage. Three early-season storms have brought hurricane-force winds to land. The March 1908 hurricane swept through the northern Lesser Antilles Islands as a Category 1 or 2 hurricane, destroying at least 24 boats and causing damage to buildings on St. Bartholomew. Hurricane Able of 1951 brought sustained winds of 90 - 95 mph to the northern Bahama Islands, but caused little damage. Hurricane 2 of May 1908 hit North Carolina's Outer Banks as a Category 1 hurricane, but also caused little damage.


Figure 1. Tracking map for the earliest hurricane to make landfall, the March 1908 hurricane in the northern Lesser Antilles Islands.

List of all early season (formed in January - May) Atlantic named storms
May 31, 2008: Tropical Storm Arthur
May 6, 2007: Subtropical Storm Andrea
April 18, 2003: Tropical Storm Ana
April 21, 1992: Subtropical Storm 1
May 6, 1981: Tropical Storm Arlene
January 18, 1978: Subtropical Storm 1
May 21, 1976: Subtropical Storm 1
May 23, 1972: Subtropical Storm Alpha
May 17, 1970: Hurricane Alma (Category 1)
May 28, 1959: Tropical Storm Arlene
February 2, 1953: Tropical Storm Alice
May 25, 1952: Tropical Storm 1
May 15, 1951: Hurricane Able (Category 3)
May 22, 1948: Tropical Storm 1
May 19, 1940: Tropical Storm 1
May 27, 1934: Tropical Storm 1
May 14, 1933: Tropical Storm 1
May 5, 1932: Tropical Storm 1
May 13, 1916: Tropical Storm 1
May 24, 1908: Hurricane 2 (Category 1)
March 6, 1908: Hurricane 1 (Category 2)
May 27, 1890: Tropical Storm 1
May 16, 1889: Hurricane 1 (Category 1)
May 17, 1887: Tropical Storm 2
May 15, 1887: Tropical Storm 1
May 30, 1865: Tropical Storm 1

I'll have an update Sunday.

Jeff Masters
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401. SevereHurricane 22:56 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
The NWS must think it will develop...

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402. hurricanehanna 22:56 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Afternoon all...Pat, Ike....besides trouble brewing in here, think we'll actually see 90L before June 1?
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403. Cavin Rawlins 22:56 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Add the JMA to the list of models

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405. Patrap 22:58 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
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406. NorthxCakalaky 22:59 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Im sorry, I was just trying to ask some selected people for my research. Did I say something wrong or..?
407. weatherblog 22:59 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Quoting SevereHurricane:
I'll be 15 in July.


Wow, I'm older than you. I thought I was the youngest one here- I'm turning 17 in November. I'm very smart though; I'm more mature than I should be at my age.
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408. IKE 23:00 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Quoting hurricanehanna:
Afternoon all...Pat, Ike....besides trouble brewing in here, think we'll actually see 90L before June 1?


Yes.
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409. Drakoen 23:00 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Looks like my date for the 19th to be the first storm may come true.
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411. hurricanehanna 23:00 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Quoting IKE:


Yes.


Interesting....heading to NO on a train trip with the 8 year old...had to cancel last year for Gustav...time to cross the fingers
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412. IKE 23:01 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Quoting Weather456:
Add the JMA to the list of models



456, what is the JMA?
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414. CybrTeddy 23:01 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
That area south of Cuba is most likely what the models are picking up on as I said. I think though we might want to look out to the Extra-Tropical low in the Atlantic, its starting to gain tropical characteristics.
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415. Patrap 23:01 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Id say the same as Blogger Ike. Odds are we will Hannah
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416. IKE 23:02 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Quoting NorthxCakalaky:
Im sorry, I was just trying to ask some selected people for my research. Did I say something wrong or..?


Maybe you should have pointed that out as the reason and then asked the ages?

I'm 51.
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417. Drakoen 23:02 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
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418. NorthxCakalaky 23:02 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Thanks everyone for letting me know. I needed a sample of about 10 or more... Sorry if I offended anyone, just thought I had seem some very intelligent people here. Ike how old are you if you do not mind me asking?
419. Patrap 23:02 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
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420. hurricanehanna 23:03 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Quoting Patrap:
Id say the same as Blogger Ike. Odds are we will Hannah


You guys aren't passing out the good news I see ;) well, just have to deal with it...it's a way of life around here this time of year. Thanks
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421. NorthxCakalaky 23:03 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Thanks Ike. Well I guess I should just send private messages instead of the open blog.
422. Cavin Rawlins 23:03 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
The system looks moderately sheared with most of the moisture and cloud cover to the east of the centre. Which works to Floirda's advantage.

Total Cloud Cover (All Levels)

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423. IKE 23:03 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Quoting NorthxCakalaky:
Thanks everyone for letting me know. I needed a sample of about 10 or more... Sorry if I offended anyone, just thought I had seem some very intelligent people here. Ike how old are you if you do not mind me asking?


See post #416.

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424. IKE 23:05 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Quoting NorthxCakalaky:
Thanks Ike. Well I guess I should just send private messages instead of the open blog.


At 51, I don't care who knows my age.
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425. SevereHurricane 23:05 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Quoting weatherblog:


Wow, I'm older than you. I thought I was the youngest one here- I'm turning 17 in November. I'm very smart though; I'm more mature than I should be at my age.


It dosen't bother me that im probally the youngest on here because I know plenty. :D
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426. NorthxCakalaky 23:06 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Quoting IKE:


See post #416.




See post 421.
428. Patrap 23:06 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
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429. Drakoen 23:06 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
ZOMG!!!! Guys only 4 more hours till the 00z runs. Who wants to stay up with me and my baby...
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430. Littleninjagrl 23:06 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Thundering here as I type. Sounds like the Jurrasic park movie outside. LOL
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431. Ossqss 23:07 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Quoting Drakoen:
Looks like my date for the 19th to be the first storm may come true.


Its all in the records on the blog in summary form. You will have some company around that date. Jeffs713 has agreed to provide some histograms of our picks. It will be interesting to see how our cumulative consensus stacks up in the end.
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433. Patrap 23:08 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Quoting Drakoen:
ZOMG!!!! Guys only 4 more hours till the 00z runs. Who wants to stay up with me and my baby...


I'll be a Trooper Drak. We can Hang..LOL

Got time to kill till Daughters High School Graduation at 3pm CST tomorrow.
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434. Cavin Rawlins 23:09 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Quoting IKE:


456, what is the JMA?


A japenses-based global dynamic model
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435. nrtiwlnvragn 23:09 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Quoting Drakoen:
Looks like my date for the 19th to be the first storm may come true.


You think a tropical/subtropical storm forms?
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437. WPBHurricane05 23:09 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Quoting NorthxCakalaky:
Okay next question..

Weatherstudent do you ever feal as if your color plays a role on here as how well you are treated?


WTF is with these questions?
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438. Drakoen 23:09 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Quoting Patrap:


I'll be a Trooper Drak. We can Hang..LOL

Got time to kill till Daughters High School Graduation at 3pm CST tomorrow.


It was a joke...
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439. SevereHurricane 23:10 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Quoting Drakoen:
ZOMG!!!! Guys only 4 more hours till the 00z runs. Who wants to stay up with me and my baby...


Ill be back for Witch Hour... jk LOL
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440. Drakoen 23:10 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Quoting nrtiwlnvragn:


You think a tropical/subtropical storm forms?


Based on the latest NAM, GFS, NOGAPS, that's my thinking. Might be on the 20th if the NHC decides to be more conservative.
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441. Patrap 23:10 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
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442. ackee 23:11 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
anyone looking at the low pressure in the mid atlantic ? looks that be subtropical to me
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443. NorthxCakalaky 23:11 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Quoting WeatherStudent:


WOW, was that called for? What's wrong with my skin-color?



Nothing. Im just asking a question. Do you ever feal as if you are being treated weirdly or bad?
444. Littleninjagrl 23:12 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
NorthxCakalaky....WTH are you asking all these questions for? (oh yeah research) I forgot. This is a weather blog not the research department. And the question to WeaterStudent was really uncalled for.
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445. hurricanehanna 23:12 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Quoting Patrap:


IH-610 South Loop at BRAESWOOD,Houston

Cloud Tags



Okay - I'm looking at that pic - are cloud tags the little extensions? That's a new word for me.
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447. hahaguy 23:12 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Quoting Drakoen:
ZOMG!!!! Guys only 4 more hours till the 00z runs. Who wants to stay up with me and my baby...


LOL
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448. Drakoen 23:13 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Quoting WeatherStudent:


What about the UKMET and ECMWF, Drak? Did you diregard those two?


No. Just based on the latest models.
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449. Cavin Rawlins 23:13 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Quoting WPBHurricane05:


WTF is with these questions?


to get you all ban, some of you all are falling for it.
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450. Patrap 23:13 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
I think dat be what they call them Hannah..

Sure sounds right..LOL
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451. IKE 23:14 GMT le 16 mai 2009    
Quoting Weather456:


A japenses-based global dynamic model


Thanks.
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