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How much will global sea level rise this century?
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 14:49 GMT le 13 juillet 2009 +4
How much will global sea level rise this century? Well, global sea level rise began in the late 1700s, and accelerated to 1.2 inches (3 cm) per decade over the past 25 years (see my post, Sea level rise: what has happened so far). If the conditions that led to this acceleration continue, we can expect sea level will rise an additional 1.1 ft (0.34 m) by 2100 (Jevrejeva et al., 2008). At a minimum, sea level rise during the 21st century should equal that of the 20th century, about seven inches (0.6 ft, 0.18 meters). This is the lower bound given by the IPCC in its 2007 assessment, which projected sea level rise of 0.6 - 1.9 ft (0.18 - 0.59 m) by 2100. However, they cautioned in their report that due to the lack of knowledge about how melting glaciers behave, the actual sea level rise might be higher. There is a growing consensus that the 2007 IPCC sea level rise estimates are much too low.


Figure 1. Observed global sea level from tide gauges (red line, pink color is the uncertainty range) and satellite measurements (green line), with forecasts for the future. The blue colors show the range of projections for three different forecasts (the forecasts overlap, but this overlap is not shown). Image modified from U.S. EPA.

The 2007 IPCC report: too conservative?
Three major sea level rise studies published since the 2007 IPCC report have argued that the IPCC's projections of sea level rise are too conservative. A paper published in 2008 in Science by Pfeffer et al. (2008) concluded that the "most likely" range of sea level rise by 2100 is 2.6 - 6.6 ft (0.8 - 2.0 meters). Their estimates came from a detailed analysis of the processes the IPCC said were understood too poorly to model--the ice flow dynamics of glaciers in Greenland and Antarctica. For example, increased glacial flow may result when water draining from melt water lakes on the surface of the glacier to the base of the glacier, where it acts as a lubricant. The authors cautioned that "substantial uncertainties" exist in their estimates, and that the cost of building higher levees to protect against sea level rise is not trivial.

Stefan Rahmstorf of the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research in Germany looked at the observed relationship between changes in sea level and global temperatures since 1900 (Rahmstorf, 2007). Rahmstorf showed that that there has been a direct relationship between sea level rise and global average temperature: 0.1 - 0.3 meters of sea level rise occurs per °C increase in global temperature. Using this relationship, Rahmstorf predicted 1.6 - 4.6 ft (0.5 - 1.4 m) of sea level rise by 2100, since the IPCC predicts that global temperatures will rise 1.4° to 5.8°C. Rahmstorf concluded, "very low sea-level rise values as reported in the 2007 IPCC report now appear rather implausible in the light of the observational data".

A similar approach was taken by Grinsted et al. (2009), but they extended the relationship between sea level and global average temperature all the way back to 200 A.D. using proxy records. They concluded that ice sheets respond more quickly to temperature changes than the computer models used in the 2007 IPCC assessment. The authors estimated that "IPCC projections of sea level rise 2090 - 2099 are underestimated by roughly a factor of three". The authors predicted that global sea level will be rising 11 mm/year by 2050--four times faster than the 20th century rise. By the last decade of this century, they forecasted that sea level will rise 3.0 - 4.3 feet (0.9 - 1.3 meters), using the IPCC's A1B "business as usual" scenario.

The long-range forecast: using paleohistory to forecast sea level rise
We can also look at times in Earth's past that had similar climate to what we expect by the year 2100. The best time to look at is probably just before the most recent ice age--the Eemian. This interglacial period 130,000 - 114,000 years ago featured temperatures near the poles that were 2°C warmer than present-day temperatures. Tree line lay about 500 miles farther north in the Canadian Arctic, and the hippopotamus ranged as far north as the Thames River in England. A similar climate is expected under some of the more moderate global warming scenarios envisioned by the IPCC. Sea level is believed to have been 4 - 6 meters (13 - 20 feet) higher than at present during the Eemian, but there is at least one unpublished study that presents evidence that global sea level was 6 - 9 meters (20 - 30 feet) higher. If the climate does warm to levels seen in the Eemian, it is widely believed that we would again see sea levels at least 4 - 6 meters higher than the present-day levels. Clearly, sea level rises of this magnitude would be ruinous to society. However, most climate change scientists believe that it would take many centuries for enough ice to melt from the Greenland and West Antarctic ice sheets to create sea level rises of 4 - 6 meters.

However, the scientist who is arguably the most visible and authoritative climate scientist in the world, Dr. James Hansen of NASA, stated (Hansen, 2007) "I find it almost inconceivable that business-as-usual climate change would not yield a sea level change of the order of meters on the century timescale" (IPCC business-as-usual (BAU) scenarios assume that emissions of CO2 and other greenhouse gases will continue to increase year after year). Hansen gave a hypothetical but potentially realistic scenario where the sea level rise due to ice sheet disintegration doubles every decade, leading to a 16 foot (5 meter) sea level increase by 2100. He noted that during the Plio-Pleistocene period 2 - 3 million years ago, CO2 levels were similar to today (350 - 450 ppm), and global temperatures were 2 - 3°C warmer, similar to what we expect by the end of the century. Yet, this Plio-Pleistocene world was "a dramatically different planet, without Arctic sea ice in the warm seasons and with a sea level 25 ± 10 m higher."

Summary
To summarize, here are some predictions of how high global sea level might rise by 2100:

0.6 ft (0.18 m): Constant linear rise, equal to 20th century rise
1.1 ft (0.34 m): Constant acceleration model (Jevrejeva et al., 2008)
0.6 - 1.9 ft (0.18 - 0.59 m): Primitive models of ice sheets (IPCC, 2007)
1.6 - 4.6 ft (0.5 - 1.4 m): Relationship between temperature and sea level rise since 1900 (Rahmstorf, 2007)
3.0 - 4.3 feet (0.9 - 1.3 m): Relationship between temperature and sea level rise since 200 A.D. (Grinsted et al., 2009)
2.6 - 6.6 ft (0.8 - 2.0 meters): Considering glacier ice flow dynamics not included by the IPCC (Pfeffer et al., 2008)

In a 2009 interview with New Scientist magazine, sea level expert Stephan Rahmstorf said, "I sense that now a majority of sea level experts would agree with me that the IPCC projections are much too low." This sentiment was echoed by glaciologist Robert Bindschadler of the NASA Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland, who commented, "most of my community is comfortable expecting at least a metre by the end of this century."

In forthcoming posts in this series, I'll explore how a meter (3.28 feet) of sea level rise will affect the U.S. coast, the Caribbean, and other vulnerable locations world-wide. It would be wise to begin preparing now for a potential rise in sea level of a meter this century. In particular, development near the coasts should be severely restricted in low-elevation zones. It will be very expensive to protect or move infrastructure away from rising seas later this century. However, even if the rate of sea level rise doubles every decade, those of us who are over the age of 50 will not live to see sea level rise cause a significant disruption to society. There is time for society to prepare for the rising sea.

References
Jevrejeva, S., J.C. Moore, A. Grinsted,, and P.L. Woodworth, 2008, "Recent global sea level acceleration started over 200 years ago?", Geophysical Research Letters, 35, L08715, doi:10.1029/2008GL033611, 2008.

Grinsted, A., J.C. Moore, and S. Jevrejeva, 2009, "Reconstructing sea level from paleo and projected temperatures 200 to 2100 AD", Climate Dynamics, DOI 10.1007/s00382-008-0507-2, 06 January 2009.

Hansen, J., 2007, "Scientific reticence and sea level rise",, Environ. Res. Lett. 2 (April-June 2007) 024002 doi:10.1088/1748-9326/2/2/024002.

IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change), 2007: Climate Change 2007: The Physical Science Basis. Contribution of Working Group I to the Fourth Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change [Solomon, S., D. Qin, M. Manning, Z. Chen, M. Marquis, K.B. Averyt, M. Tignor, and H.L. Miller (eds.)]. Cambridge University Press, Cambridge, UK, and New York, 996 pp.

Pfeffer, W.T., J.T. Harper, and S. O'Neel, 2008, "Kinematic Constraints on Glacier Contributions to 21st-Century Sea-Level Rise", Science 321 no. 5894, pp. 1340-1343, 5 September 2008. DOI: 10.1126/science.1159099

Rahmstorf, Stefan. "Sea-Level Rise: A Semi-Empirical Approach to Projecting Future." Science 315 (2007): 368–370.

Other posts in this series
Sea level rise: what has happened so far
U.S. vulnerability to sea level rise

Wednesday, I'll take a look at the Atlantic hurricane forecast for the remainder of July. There's currently nothing out there worth discussing--will it stay that way?

Dr. Ricky Rood has some interesting commentary on the new climate change legislation that passed the House last month, and will go to the Senate in September.

Jeff Masters

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1501. Stormchaser2007 17:48 GMT le 14 juillet 2009    
2pm TWO will be out in minutes.
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1502. reedzone 17:48 GMT le 14 juillet 2009    
No wave, nada!! Not on this map.. interesting

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/tafb/ATSA_12Z.gif
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1503. IKE 17:49 GMT le 14 juillet 2009    
Quoting Chicklit:
2 PM NHC Discussion is Out.
Mum's the Word.
Link


I doubt the TWO mentions anything...copy and paste...TS formation is not anticipated in the next 48 hours...
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1504. canesrule1 17:49 GMT le 14 juillet 2009    
Quoting Stormchaser2007:


Too early too tell what the potential track will be if it develops, but so far it looks possible.
i think south florida should keep there eyes peeled with this one, thoughts??? if it develops
1505. WAHA 17:49 GMT le 14 juillet 2009    
Quoting BurnedAfterPosting:
Matter of fact 2005 had a very good amount of SAL all season long, its why there was only 1 CV storm the entire season

Irene?
1506. BurnedAfterPosting 17:49 GMT le 14 juillet 2009    
Quoting reedzone:
No wave, nada!! Not on this map.. interesting

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/tafb/ATSA_12Z.gif


12Z is 8am, that would coincide with the 8am TWO

in other words, the map is old lol
1507. Stormchaser2007 17:49 GMT le 14 juillet 2009    
Quoting reedzone:
No wave, nada!! Not on this map.. interesting

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/tafb/ATSA_12Z.gif


12z= 8am.
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1508. cyclonekid 17:49 GMT le 14 juillet 2009    
NHC has been really slow on 2 things....advisories on Carlos, and TWO's
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1509. fsumet 17:50 GMT le 14 juillet 2009    
Quoting reedzone:
Hmm you guys are funny..

My Prediction (being serious here)

14 named storms
7 hurricanes
4 major

I see a 2004 type season but the East Coast is in more danger then the GOM.
El Nino does NOT always mean a quiet season. I believe a Modiki El Nino is setting up and we will have a slightly above average season.


Sorry, this isn't a Modoki El Nino. If you actually read what Dr. Master's posts you would know that this is a classic El Nino. A year like 2002 or 2006 is much more likely than 2004.
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1510. Cotillion 17:50 GMT le 14 juillet 2009    
I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't anything...

I guess you gotta think, could this be a TS in 48 hours? Perhaps not. Invest, maybe, at tops within that timeframe.
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1511. IKE 17:50 GMT le 14 juillet 2009    
Quoting canesrule1:
i think south florida should keep there eyes peeled with this one, thoughts??? if it develops


It's over 3,000 miles away....
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1512. CaneWarning 17:50 GMT le 14 juillet 2009    
Quoting LPStormspotter:


Geezzz.. Touché ...


It's called being banned under that handle.
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1513. Stormchaser2007 17:50 GMT le 14 juillet 2009    
Quoting canesrule1:
i this south florida should keep there eyes peeled with this one, thoughts??? if it develops


I have no idea on track because there are too many variables. We should focus on development not the track.
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1514. Private17 17:50 GMT le 14 juillet 2009    
Dr. Jeff Masters, the earth has been cooling since 1998. Government may be able to manipulate ground temperature readings, but not satellite readings. 11% of temperature measurement stations meet government specifications. most, are on top of asphalt. As for the rising sea levels. This is a myth!!. Also don't worry about the polar bears, because glaciers have grown at the fastest pace of record to Pre-global warming levels. It is a scientific FACT that temperature fluctuations is the cause of CO2 fluctuations. NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. Thats why Al Gore never combined the 2 graphs in his movie. IPCC is a government sponsored organization. They put fear into people to pass legislation that will supposedly protect the environment. What they are really doing is bring us back to the dark ages. And all the bills and legislation is just another tax increase on the consumer, while Al Gore and GE get all the money from the "green projects".

Sources:
http://www.examiner.com/x-9111-SF-Environmental-Policy-Examiner~y2009m7d5-Does-global-warming-dimin ish-with-accurate-temperature-measurements-Part-1
Type "Global Cooling" and got to news section.
http://members.shaw.ca/sch25/FOS/Climate_Change_Science.html
1515. Stormchaser2007 17:51 GMT le 14 juillet 2009    
Nothing on the 2pm TWO. Now I wait for 10 other people to post it.
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1516. BurnedAfterPosting 17:51 GMT le 14 juillet 2009    
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
200 PM EDT TUE JUL 14 2009

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$
FORECASTER BEVEN

Nuttin'
1517. IKE 17:51 GMT le 14 juillet 2009    
.....I still say there will be nothing the rest of July.

If I'm wrong....crow me.
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1518. LPStormspotter 17:52 GMT le 14 juillet 2009    
Quoting CaneWarning:


It's called being banned under that handle.


LOL ok makes more sense
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1519. WAHA 17:52 GMT le 14 juillet 2009    
BRB in 1 min.
1520. cyclonekid 17:52 GMT le 14 juillet 2009    
No Yellow Circle...

Link
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1521. WAHA 17:52 GMT le 14 juillet 2009    
nevermind
1522. canesrule1 17:53 GMT le 14 juillet 2009    
Quoting IKE:


It's over 3,000 miles away....
i know its too far to tell, but dont forget Andrew
1523. reedzone 17:53 GMT le 14 juillet 2009    
You say that a 2004 season is impossible? Wow, I see a better chance for a 2004 type season then 2006. You guys think El Nino is going to shut everything down, but you will all see, things will be very active come late August into September. El Nino does NOT mean it will be a slow season. 1998 was an El Nino and we had Mitch, a power house category 5 storm, and the 13th named storm on a El Nino year.
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1524. robbieNDBC 17:54 GMT le 14 juillet 2009    
Quoting reedzone:
No wave, nada!! Not on this map.. interesting

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/tafb/ATSA_12Z.gif


At 18z there will be a wave on the surface analysis. But there will not be an invest probably for 24 hours at least. If ever.
1525. WAHA 17:54 GMT le 14 juillet 2009    
Carlos is now 90 mph! i predict major hurricane strength.
1526. kabloie 17:54 GMT le 14 juillet 2009    
" It is a scientific FACT that temperature fluctuations is the cause of CO2 fluctuations. NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. "

And oil burbles up from the mantle for us all to burn and enjoy in perpetuity.

Someone needs to get their "facts" in order.
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1527. Stormchaser2007 17:55 GMT le 14 juillet 2009    
Quoting reedzone:
You say that a 2004 season is impossible? Wow, I see a better chance for a 2004 type season then 2006. You guys think El Nino is going to shut everything down, but you will all see, things will be very active come late August into September. El Nino does NOT mean it will be a slow season. 1998 was an El Nino and we had Mitch, a power house category 5 storm, and the 13th named storm on a El Nino year.


Im going to save your comment and we'll see how you do when the seasons done.
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1528. BurnedAfterPosting 17:55 GMT le 14 juillet 2009    
status quo with 96E according to the TWO in the EPAC

96E has not been able to consolidate
1529. WAHA 17:55 GMT le 14 juillet 2009    
Quoting canesrule1:
i know its too far to tell, but dont forget Andrew

I won't
1530. Cotillion 17:55 GMT le 14 juillet 2009    
Quoting reedzone:
You say that a 2004 season is impossible? Wow, I see a better chance for a 2004 type season then 2006. You guys think El Nino is going to shut everything down, but you will all see, things will be very active come late August into September. El Nino does NOT mean it will be a slow season. 1998 was an El Nino and we had Mitch, a power house category 5 storm, and the 13th named storm on a El Nino year.


No it wasn't.

1998 did start the year as an El Nino, but by the time the meat of the season started, it was La Nina.

Link

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1531. BurnedAfterPosting 17:57 GMT le 14 juillet 2009    
The Winter of 97-98 was El Nino, which was the reason behind severe weather in the Southeast

The El Nino lingered into the beginning of the hurricane season, but changed to La Nina

1532. hunkerdown 17:58 GMT le 14 juillet 2009    
Quoting canesrule1:
i know its too far to tell, but dont forget Andrew
And remember the Alamo...
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1533. IKE 17:59 GMT le 14 juillet 2009    
I predicted 10-4-2 for the Atlantic...scenario....2 systems in August...5 in September...2 in October...stray one in November....

10
4
2

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1534. reedzone 17:59 GMT le 14 juillet 2009    
So you all believe we will really have less then 10 storms? that hasn't happened since 1997. 2006 had 10 named storms. All I'm saying is just because we're starting late, and it's an El Nino year doesn't mean we can expect 4-7 storms LOL

Just wait it out and you'll see we get at LEAST 12 named storms this year :)
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1535. WAHA 17:59 GMT le 14 juillet 2009    
gone to look closer at the tropical wave.
1536. Cotillion 17:59 GMT le 14 juillet 2009    
At least you're sticking to your guns Ike... respect.

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1538. fsumet 18:01 GMT le 14 juillet 2009    
Quoting reedzone:
You say that a 2004 season is impossible? Wow, I see a better chance for a 2004 type season then 2006. You guys think El Nino is going to shut everything down, but you will all see, things will be very active come late August into September. El Nino does NOT mean it will be a slow season. 1998 was an El Nino and we had Mitch, a power house category 5 storm, and the 13th named storm on a El Nino year.


Where did I say El Nino was going to shut everything down? It will at the end of September since it is a typical El Nino though. A NORMAL El Nino, like this one, does mean an average to slow season, especially in terms of ACE. It does not mean you can't get a lot of storms or major hurricanes hitting land. It means overall, based on the Accumulated Cyclone Energy, the season will be average to below average. You may want to go look a few things up before opening your mouth. 2004 is not the TYPICAL El Nino. You can look at maps and see that they are not similar in any way in terms of SST anomalies. It was the topic of one of the blogs which obviously you didn't read. By the way, 1998 was a La Nina year, not an El Nino year smart guy. 1997-1998 was the El Nino, and it weakened and headed to La Nina in 1998. Like I said, do some research and don't just spurt off crap cause you want the season to be like 2004.
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1539. IKE 18:02 GMT le 14 juillet 2009    
Quoting Cotillion:
At least you're sticking to your guns Ike... respect.



I'm not changing it. I belatedly picked mine the last half of June. Take off a point for a late pick.

I'll stick with my totals...
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1540. OSUWXGUY 18:02 GMT le 14 juillet 2009    
Very telling Precipitable Water Vapor loop...

The wave that looked impressive yesterday in the central Atlantic blossomed convection as strong southerly winds increased and provided surface convergence yesterday, and then as the southerlies weakened and the trough elongated there has been a noticeable decrease in thunderstorm activity.

The eastern Atlantic Wave has really been blowing up this afternoon as northwesterly and westerly winds tighten the area of moisture and increase surface convergence.

Both things are readily visible in the loop...but goes to show how hard it is to predict which waves will develop and which won't.

We just have to wait and see on both!

1541. IpswichWeatherCenter 18:02 GMT le 14 juillet 2009    
I'm revising my predictions to:

7 Tropical Depressions
5 Tropical Storms
2 Hurricanes
0 Major Hurricanes.

This is from the following:

Revised May 2nd:
12-15 Tropical Depressions
8-12 Tropical Storms
7 - 9 Hurricanes
1 Major Hurricane
0 Cape Verde Cyclones

Original Prediction (Predicted April 15th):

15-17 Tropical Depressions
12-14 Tropical Storms
5-9 Hurricanes
0-1 Major Hurricane
2 Cape Verde Cyclones

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1542. Stormchaser2007 18:02 GMT le 14 juillet 2009    
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1543. BurnedAfterPosting 18:03 GMT le 14 juillet 2009    
Quoting fsumet:


Where did I say El Nino was going to shut everything down? It will at the end of September since it is a typical El Nino though. A NORMAL El Nino, like this one, does mean an average to slow season, especially in terms of ACE. It does not mean you can't get a lot of storms or major hurricanes hitting land. It means overall, based on the Accumulated Cyclone Energy, the season will be average to below average. You may want to go look a few things up before opening your mouth. 2004 is not the TYPICAL El Nino. You can look at maps and see that they are not similar in any way. It was the topic of one of the blogs which obviously you didn't read. By the way, 1998 was a La Nina year, not an El Nino year smart guy. 1997-1998 was the El Nino, and it weakened and headed to La Nina in 1998. Like I said, do some research and don't just spurt off crap cause you want the season to be like 2004.


Amen to that
1544. hunkerdown 18:03 GMT le 14 juillet 2009    
Quoting WAHA:
gone to look closer at the tropical wave.
Don't strain your eyes...you know you should maintain proper distance from you monitor to avoid retina damage...in other words, no matter how close, or how long you stare at the variuos loops, it is what is is for the time being.
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1545. SFLGirl1 18:03 GMT le 14 juillet 2009    
Quoting DestinJeff:
BLOG POST OUTLOOK
WU WUNDERBLOG POST PREDICTION CENTER
100 PM CST TUE JUL 14 2009

FOR THE JEFF MASTERS WUNDERBLOG AND ASSOCIATED COMMENTS

GRASPING FOR STRAWS OF POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OF A RANDOM CLOUD OVER THE MDR IS EXPECTED OVER THE NEXT 48 HOURS AND WILL CONTINUE UNTIL ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT, IF ANY, SLOWLY OCCURS ...

$$
FORECASTER DESTINJEFF


Thats Funny ... Best forecasting today ...LOL
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1546. BurnedAfterPosting 18:03 GMT le 14 juillet 2009    
ok I will throw one out there then lol

11 named storms
6 hurricnes
3 major hurricanes
1547. IKE 18:04 GMT le 14 juillet 2009    
Quoting DestinJeff:
BLOG POST OUTLOOK
WU WUNDERBLOG POST PREDICTION CENTER
100 PM CST TUE JUL 14 2009

FOR THE JEFF MASTERS WUNDERBLOG AND ASSOCIATED COMMENTS

GRASPING FOR STRAWS OF POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OF A RANDOM CLOUD OVER THE MDR IS EXPECTED OVER THE NEXT 48 HOURS AND WILL CONTINUE UNTIL ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT, IF ANY, SLOWLY OCCURS ...

$$
FORECASTER DESTINJEFF


(1)NHC is conservative.
(2)Is south Florida in the cone?
(3)I think it curves north of the islands.
(4)Could it hamper my Caribbean cruise set for the 21st-27th?
(5)last and certainly not least...season is a bust.
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1548. Cotillion 18:04 GMT le 14 juillet 2009    
I'd be very surprised if it's 7-5-2.

Not unless the El Nino significantly deepens. It's still a weak one for the time being.

It'll be around the normal long-term average (I.e. below average for the current cycle of tropical activity). Seems a reasonable enough projection on current trends.
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1549. Cotillion 18:05 GMT le 14 juillet 2009    
...(6)The only reason it's not being named is because the NHC have an ulterior motive, and want to make their predictions right!!!!1111
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1550. CaneWarning 18:05 GMT le 14 juillet 2009    
Quoting IKE:


(1)NHC is conservative.
(2)Is south Florida in the cone?
(3)I think it curves north of the islands.
(4)Could it hamper my Caribbean cruise set for the 21-27th?
(5)last and certainly not least...season is a bust.


What about "Fish"?
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1551. WAHA 18:06 GMT le 14 juillet 2009    
wow this looks like a hurricane.

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