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Two African waves worth mentioning
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 15:51 GMT le 18 juillet 2009 +2
There are two African tropical waves worth mentioning today, though neither looks particularly threatening. A tropical wave near 12N 45W, about 1200 miles east of the Lesser Antilles Islands (97 L), is moving west at 15 - 20 mph. This wave is now surrounded by an area of very dry air from the Sahara Desert. The dry air has disrupted most of the wave's heavy thunderstorm activity, and will continue to make it difficult for this system to develop over the next 2 - 3 days. Wind shear is a modest 10 knots over the disturbance, and should remain in the moderate 10 - 15 knot range over the next 2 - 3 days. Thereafter, shear is expected to rise to 20 - 30 knots. This morning's QuikSCAT pass showed no evidence of a surface circulation, and only a modest wind shift associated with 97L. The National Hurricane Center is giving this system a low (less than 30% chance) of developing into a tropical depression in the next 48 hours.

A second tropical wave now approaching the northern Lesser Antilles Islands is under 30 knots of wind shear, and has little prospect of development due to the high shear. However, the wave will bring heavy rain to the islands over the next two days.

None of the computer models are forecasting tropical storm development over the next seven days, and I don't expect either of the two African waves mentioned today to develop over at least the next three days.


Figure 1. Current satellite image of African wave 97L, 1200 miles east of the Lesser Antilles Islands.

I'll have an update Sunday afternoon.
Jeff Masters
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2. canesrule1 15:53 GMT le 18 juillet 2009    
Good morning Dr. M, thanks for the update.
3. weatherwatcher12 15:53 GMT le 18 juillet 2009    
Thanks for the update
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4. HadesGodWyvern 15:54 GMT le 18 juillet 2009    
Tropical Cyclone Bulletin

Here is the latest Tropical Cyclone Bulletin issued by the
Hong Kong Observatory.

The No. 8 Northwest Gale or Storm Signal was issued at
11:30 p.m.


This means that winds with mean speeds of 63 kilometres per
hour or more are expected from the northwest quarter.

At midnight, Typhoon Molave was centred about 100
kilometres east of Hong Kong Observatory (near 22.4 degrees
north 115.1 degrees east) and is forecast to move
west-northwest at about 24 kilometres per hour in the
general direction of Dapeng Peninsula.

Molave is expected to come very close to Hong Kong between
midnight and daybreak. Gale force winds will generally
affect Hong Kong and there will be heavy rain with squalls.
According to the present track, local winds will turn
southwesterly around daybreak. Places previously sheltered
from the winds will become exposed. Members of the public
should take precautions as soon as possible.
In the past hour, the maximum sustained winds recorded at
Tap Mun and Cheung Chau were 60 and 49 kilometres per hour
with maximum gusts 100 and 69 kilometres per hour
respectively.
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5. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 15:54 GMT le 18 juillet 2009    
good day doc looks like things are picking up a little
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6. sporteguy03 15:55 GMT le 18 juillet 2009    
Thanks Dr.Masters enjoy your Saturday in Michigan.
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7. IKE 15:55 GMT le 18 juillet 2009    
From the Miami,FL. morning discussion....

"POPS WILL SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE EARLY NEXT WEEK AS A TROPICAL
WAVE APPROACHES. THIS WAVE AT 00Z WAS ANALYZED BY TAFB AT 58W
APPROACHING THE LEEWARD ISLANDS. WITH A MOVEMENT WEST AT 15 KNOTS,
AND ACCORDING TO THE GFS40 AND ECMWF, BRING IT TO SOUTHEAST
FLORIDA BY WEDNESDAY. THE GFS40 TAKES THE BRUNT OF THE MOISTURE
AND HIGH PWATS UP THE WESTERN ATLANTIC COASTAL WATERS THROUGH
THURSDAY. THE MID LEVEL TROUGH THAT IS OVER THE NORTHEAST GULF OF
MEXICO LIFTS OUT OR WEAKENS BY WEDNESDAY AND THINK THAT THE WAVE
MAY ACTUALLY MOVE NORTHWEST THROUGH SOUTH FLORIDA RESULTING IN
RATHER HIGH POPS OVER MOST AREAS WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY. HAVE
STAYED WITH 50 PERCENT FOR NOW BUT MAY BE ADJUSTED UPWARD TO THE
LIKELY CATEGORY IN LATER PACKAGES."
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8. seflagamma 15:56 GMT le 18 juillet 2009    
Thanks Dr Masters.

Was hoping you would comment and open us a new blog.

Hi everyone, I was still lurking on the prev blog!

Hope everyone is enjoying their Saturday.


Take care and I will lurk when I can.

Gams
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9. 7544 15:56 GMT le 18 juillet 2009    
here you go
"POPS WILL SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE EARLY NEXT WEEK AS A TROPICAL
WAVE APPROACHES. THIS WAVE AT 00Z WAS ANALYZED BY TAFB AT 58W
APPROACHING THE LEEWARD ISLANDS. WITH A MOVEMENT WEST AT 15 KNOTS,
AND ACCORDING TO THE GFS40 AND ECMWF, BRING IT TO SOUTHEAST
FLORIDA BY WEDNESDAY.
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10. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 15:59 GMT le 18 juillet 2009    
604

WHXX01 KWBC 181212

CHGHUR

TROPICAL CYCLONE GUIDANCE MESSAGE

NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL

1212 UTC SAT JUL 18 2009



DISCLAIMER...NUMERICAL MODELS ARE SUBJECT TO LARGE ERRORS.

PLEASE REFER TO NHC OFFICIAL FORECASTS FOR TROPICAL CYCLONE

AND SUBTROPICAL CYCLONE INFORMATION.



ATLANTIC OBJECTIVE AIDS FOR



DISTURBANCE INVEST (AL972009) 20090718 1200 UTC



...00 HRS... ...12 HRS... ...24 HRS. .. ...36 HRS...

090718 1200 090719 0000 090719 1200 090720 0000



LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON

BAMS 11.9N 41.8W 12.5N 45.3W 12.9N 48.8W 13.5N 52.2W

BAMD 11.9N 41.8W 12.2N 44.4W 12.4N 46.8W 12.5N 49.4W

BAMM 11.9N 41.8W 12.3N 45.0W 12.5N 48.1W 12.8N 51.0W

LBAR 11.9N 41.8W 12.1N 45.2W 12.0N 48.8W 12.1N 52.3W

SHIP 20KTS 23KTS 28KTS 34KTS

DSHP 20KTS 23KTS 28KTS 34KTS



...48 HRS... ...72 HRS... ...96 HRS. .. ..120 HRS...

090720 1200 090721 1200 090722 1200 090723 1200



LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON

BAMS 14.2N 55.9W 17.3N 63.5W 21.1N 70.5W 24.7N 74.8W

BAMD 13.0N 51.9W 15.0N 57.2W 17.2N 63.1W 18.4N 68.8W

BAMM 13.4N 53.9W 15.7N 60.1W 19.1N 66.7W 21.6N 71.6W

LBAR 12.3N 55.8W 13.6N 62.3W .0N .0W .0N .0W

SHIP 40KTS 49KTS 52KTS 56KTS

DSHP 40KTS 49KTS 52KTS 56KTS



...INITIAL CONDITIONS...

LATCUR = 11.9N LONCUR = 41.8W DIRCUR = 275DEG SPDCUR = 18KT

LATM12 = 11.5N LONM12 = 38.0W DIRM12 = 272DEG SPDM12 = 18KT

LATM24 = 11.5N LONM24 = 34.6W

WNDCUR = 20KT RMAXWD = 40NM WNDM12 = 20KT

CENPRS = 1013MB OUTPRS = 1014MB OUTRAD = 100NM SDEPTH = S

RD34NE = 0NM RD34SE = 0NM RD34SW = 0NM RD34NW = 0NM



$$

NNNN
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11. seflagamma 15:58 GMT le 18 juillet 2009    
Quoting IKE:
From the Miami,FL. morning discussion....

"POPS WILL SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE EARLY NEXT WEEK AS A TROPICAL
WAVE APPROACHES. THIS WAVE AT 00Z WAS ANALYZED BY TAFB AT 58W
APPROACHING THE LEEWARD ISLANDS. WITH A MOVEMENT WEST AT 15 KNOTS,
AND ACCORDING TO THE GFS40 AND ECMWF, BRING IT TO SOUTHEAST
FLORIDA BY WEDNESDAY. THE GFS40 TAKES THE BRUNT OF THE MOISTURE
AND HIGH PWATS UP THE WESTERN ATLANTIC COASTAL WATERS THROUGH
THURSDAY. THE MID LEVEL TROUGH THAT IS OVER THE NORTHEAST GULF OF
MEXICO LIFTS OUT OR WEAKENS BY WEDNESDAY AND THINK THAT THE WAVE
MAY ACTUALLY MOVE NORTHWEST THROUGH SOUTH FLORIDA RESULTING IN
RATHER HIGH POPS OVER MOST AREAS WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY. HAVE
STAYED WITH 50 PERCENT FOR NOW BUT MAY BE ADJUSTED UPWARD TO THE
LIKELY CATEGORY IN LATER PACKAGES."


Hi Ike,

not sure we like that; we may could use another inch or two of rain next week but no tropical downpour for sure!
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12. BurnedAfterPosting 15:59 GMT le 18 juillet 2009    
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
604

WHXX01 KWBC 181212

CHGHUR

TROPICAL CYCLONE GUIDANCE MESSAGE

NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL

1212 UTC SAT JUL 18 2009



DISCLAIMER...NUMERICAL MODELS ARE SUBJECT TO LARGE ERRORS.

PLEASE REFER TO NHC OFFICIAL FORECASTS FOR TROPICAL CYCLONE

AND SUBTROPICAL CYCLONE INFORMATION.



ATLANTIC OBJECTIVE AIDS FOR



DISTURBANCE INVEST (AL972009) 20090718 1200 UTC



...00 HRS... ...12 HRS... ...24 HRS. .. ...36 HRS...

090718 1200 090719 0000 090719 1200 090720 0000



LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON

BAMS 11.9N 41.8W 12.5N 45.3W 12.9N 48.8W 13.5N 52.2W

BAMD 11.9N 41.8W 12.2N 44.4W 12.4N 46.8W 12.5N 49.4W

BAMM 11.9N 41.8W 12.3N 45.0W 12.5N 48.1W 12.8N 51.0W

LBAR 11.9N 41.8W 12.1N 45.2W 12.0N 48.8W 12.1N 52.3W

SHIP 20KTS 23KTS 28KTS 34KTS

DSHP 20KTS 23KTS 28KTS 34KTS



...48 HRS... ...72 HRS... ...96 HRS. .. ..120 HRS...

090720 1200 090721 1200 090722 1200 090723 1200



LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON

BAMS 14.2N 55.9W 17.3N 63.5W 21.1N 70.5W 24.7N 74.8W

BAMD 13.0N 51.9W 15.0N 57.2W 17.2N 63.1W 18.4N 68.8W

BAMM 13.4N 53.9W 15.7N 60.1W 19.1N 66.7W 21.6N 71.6W

LBAR 12.3N 55.8W 13.6N 62.3W .0N .0W .0N .0W

SHIP 40KTS 49KTS 52KTS 56KTS

DSHP 40KTS 49KTS 52KTS 56KTS



...INITIAL CONDITIONS...

LATCUR = 11.9N LONCUR = 41.8W DIRCUR = 275DEG SPDCUR = 18KT

LATM12 = 11.5N LONM12 = 38.0W DIRM12 = 272DEG SPDM12 = 18KT

LATM24 = 11.5N LONM24 = 34.6W

WNDCUR = 20KT RMAXWD = 40NM WNDM12 = 20KT

CENPRS = 1013MB OUTPRS = 1014MB OUTRAD = 100NM SDEPTH = S

RD34NE = 0NM RD34SE = 0NM RD34SW = 0NM RD34NW = 0NM



$$

NNNN


the fact that they ran the model suite tells me that 97L wont get deactivated
13. canesrule1 16:00 GMT le 18 juillet 2009    
If this area of intrest (97L) survives what are the chances of it reaching me here in Miami, thoughts?
14. HadesGodWyvern 16:00 GMT le 18 juillet 2009    
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15. willdunc79 16:00 GMT le 18 juillet 2009    
so in short:

POOF

To both the tropical wave and to 97L.

Well I'm off to go do other things but will be back in the next invest/strong tropical wave that actually looks promising.
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17. IKE 16:02 GMT le 18 juillet 2009    
Quoting willdunc79:
so in short:

POOF

To both the tropical wave and to 97L.

Well I'm off to go do other things but will be back in the next invest/strong tropical wave that actually looks promising.


Your statements have comeback written all over them.
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18. sporteguy03 16:02 GMT le 18 juillet 2009    
Quoting canesrule1:
If this area of intrest (97L) survives what are the chances of it reaching me here in Miami, thoughts?

See the discussions posted by Ike.
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19. tampahurricane 16:02 GMT le 18 juillet 2009    
the wave near the lesser Antilles is looking very good right now.
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20. DaaiTouLaam 16:03 GMT le 18 juillet 2009    
Quoting HadesGodWyvern:
The Tropical Cyclone Warning Signal Number 8 is expected to
be issued at or before 11:30 p.m. today (18 Jul 2009).

Molave will get very close to Hong Kong. Winds locally
will significantly strengthen within the next few hours.


As mentioned below the T8 is up now.

The No. 8 Northwest Gale or Storm Signal was issued at 11:30 p.m.

This means that winds with mean speeds of 63 kilometres per hour or more are expected from the northwest quarter.

At midnight, Typhoon Molave was centred about 100
kilometres east of Hong Kong Observatory (near 22.4 degrees north 115.1 degrees east) and is forecast to move west-northwest at about 24 kilometres per hour in the general direction of Dapeng Peninsula.

...

In the past hour, the maximum sustained winds recorded at Tap Mun and Cheung Chau were 60 and 49 kilometres per hour with maximum gusts 100 and 69 kilometres per hour respectively.

This part always cracks me up from the boilerplate message:
4. Flights at Hong Kong International Airport may be affected by the weather. Please contact your airline for the latest flight information before departing for the airport.
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21. jeffs713 16:04 GMT le 18 juillet 2009    
Quoting BurnedAfterPosting:


the fact that they ran the model suite tells me that 97L wont get deactivated


The BAM model suite is very simple, and doesn't take much time to run, so they normally run it on any invest until the advisory it is actually deactivated.
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23. BurnedAfterPosting 16:04 GMT le 18 juillet 2009    
well I will look at the NHC for what they say about the area

Not one person on here knows more than anyone at the NHC, and if you pretend you do or you think you do, then you know SQUAT

If the NHC doesnt say poof, then it ISNT POOF!!!
24. Patrap 16:05 GMT le 18 juillet 2009    
25. canesrule1 16:05 GMT le 18 juillet 2009    
Quoting sporteguy03:

See the discussions posted by Ike.
not good then
28. 7544 16:06 GMT le 18 juillet 2009    
im more intersted in the wave at 56 w now as for 97l ill watch latter but

as long as it has spin its good for a win
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29. HadesGodWyvern 16:06 GMT le 18 juillet 2009    
Japan Meteorological Agency
Tropical Cyclone Advisory #25
TYPHOON MOLAVE (T0609)
0:00 AM JST July 19 2009
============================================

Subject: Category Three Typhoon In South China Sea

At 15:00 PM UTC, Typhoon Molave (975 hPa) located at 22.4N 115.0E has 10 minute sustained winds of 65 knots with gusts of 95 knots. The storm is reported as moving west-northwest at 15 knots.

Dvorak Intensity:

Storm Force Winds
===============
50 NM from the center

Gale Force Winds
================
200 NM from the center in southeast quadrant
150 NM from the center in northwest quadrant

Forecast and Intensity
=======================
24 HRS: 24.5N 109.7E - Tropical Depression
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30. canesrule1 16:07 GMT le 18 juillet 2009    
Not looking good for 97L, and what do ya'll think about that BLOB around the U.S Virgin Islands?
31. Patrap 16:08 GMT le 18 juillet 2009    
Ack,cofff...spit...Dusty,

Phew..

The Impact of the Saharan Air Layer on Atlantic Tropical Cyclone Activity

Jason P. Duniona and Christopher S. Veldenb

a. CIMAS, University of Miami, and NOAA/AOML/Hurricane Research Division, Miami, Florida
b. CIMSS, University of Wisconsin—Madison, Madison, Wisconsin

DOI: 10.1175/BAMS-85-3-353

32. IKE 16:08 GMT le 18 juillet 2009    
Quoting Funkadelic:
wow suprised he sort of wrote off the waves


He didn't write them off. He said..."I don't expect either of the two African waves mentioned today to develop over at least the next three days."......

He didn't say anything about the 4th day on...
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33. hamla 16:08 GMT le 18 juillet 2009    
to all
while things are quiet for now i found 2 videos on youtube that are about 30 min long
1= a lady named cammile
2= a hurricane called betsy

do a search and watch these videos and see what went on back in the 60s
then compare it to katrina/rita/ike.
i went thru both betsy/camile
you can get a sense of how things were done back then and the way things get done now
its very interesting

any comments send them to me at n1rg9@yahoo.com thanks
god gless
rick
n1rg
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36. Patrap 16:09 GMT le 18 juillet 2009    
Ike caught that lil 4 day out too,..
37. Seflhurricane 16:09 GMT le 18 juillet 2009    
wave near the antillies looks impressive with every update i think this one is going to pull a good one on everyone
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38. canesrule1 16:10 GMT le 18 juillet 2009    
Quoting 7544:
im more intersted in the wave at 56 w now as for 97l ill watch latter but

as long as it has spin its good for a win
dont u mean 59 w.
39. Patrap 16:12 GMT le 18 juillet 2009    
40. Stormchaser2007 16:11 GMT le 18 juillet 2009    
Nothing.

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42. canesrule1 16:12 GMT le 18 juillet 2009    
Quoting Acemmett90:

Do not write off 97L just this yet
trust me im not writing her off, im saying its not looking good for her shear wise.
43. RufusBaker 16:14 GMT le 18 juillet 2009    
Oh here ya are Ruuuuuufus Baker!! The mighty two tone talk the two tone talk!!! yeeeeeeeeee hawwwwwwwwwwwww
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44. IKE 16:14 GMT le 18 juillet 2009    
Dr. Masters,

Your blog is kicking me out when I hit refresh. Not every time...maybe a third of the time. It's been going on for about 2 weeks now. I have to click a couple of links to get back in.
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45. IKE 16:14 GMT le 18 juillet 2009    
Quoting RufusBaker:
Oh here ya are Ruuuuuufus Baker!! The mighty two tone talk the two tone talk!!! yeeeeeeeeee hawwwwwwwwwwwww


You're #73.

Goodbye:)
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46. Cotillion 16:15 GMT le 18 juillet 2009    
Quoting IKE:
Dr. Masters,

Your blog is kicking me out when I hit refresh. Not every time...maybe a third of the time. It's been going on for about 2 weeks now. I have to click a couple of links to get back in.


I've had the same or similar, but works if I refresh again.
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47. RufusBaker 16:15 GMT le 18 juillet 2009    
Gee what friendly people we have on here
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51. canesrule1 16:16 GMT le 18 juillet 2009    
I think we should watch the wave around the U.S.V.I because not only is the convection there but its closer to not only the U.S but also Haiti, you all should watch this trust me, anyways u can say its persistent because its been around for over 24 hours.

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