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97L growing more organized, will bring heavy rain to the Lesser Antilles
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 15:55 GMT le 19 juillet 2009 +1
The tropical wave near 12N 52W, about 600 miles east of the Lesser Antilles Islands (97 L), has grown more organized this morning as it tracks west at about 20 mph. This wave is surrounded by an area of very dry air from the Sahara Desert, but 97L has been able to steadily moisten a large region of the atmosphere over the past day, insulating itself from the dry air. This moistening process has been aided by sea surface temperatures (SSTs) that have steadily increased from 26.5°C to 27.5°C, plus the presence of only 10 knots of wind shear. The system now has a small area of intense thunderstorms near its center, with some rotation of the cloud pattern evident at mid-levels of the atmosphere. An upper-level outflow channel has opened to the north, and there is evidence that surface spiral bands are beginning to form. This morning's QuikSCAT pass missed 97L, so we don't know what is happening at the surface.

Wind shear is a modest 10 knots over the disturbance, and is forecast to remain in the moderate 10 - 15 knot range through Monday morning. This should allow further development to occur today, and 97L could be approaching tropical depression strength on Monday as it moves through the central Lesser Antilles Islands. Monday night, shear is expected to rise to 20 - 30 knots, thanks to the presence of a trough of low pressure at upper levels of the atmosphere over the eastern Caribbean. Since 97L is a relatively small system, it is very vulnerable to wind shear. This shear may be able to drive some of the dry air west of 97L deep into its interior, significantly disrupting the disturbance. Shear will remain high along 97L's path through Thursday, when the storm should be in the western Caribbean near Cuba. If there is anything left of 97L by then, some development is possible. The National Hurricane Center gave 97L a low (less than 30% chance) of developing into a tropical depression in the next 48 hours in their 8am Tropical Weather Outlook. However, I'd say the odds are now in the medium range (30 - 50%).

None of the computer models are forecasting tropical storm development over the next seven days.


Figure 1. Current satellite image of African wave 97L.

I'll have an update Monday morning. As 97L approaches the islands, you may want to follow local observations there using our wundermap for 97L.

Jeff Masters
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301. IKE 17:28 GMT le 19 juillet 2009    
Quoting hunkerdown:
The SAL was too great for him.


That was a 59 yr-old choke job.

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302. FloridaTigers 17:30 GMT le 19 juillet 2009    
Shear was unfavorable over Tom Watson
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303. hunkerdown 17:29 GMT le 19 juillet 2009    
Quoting IKE:


The drama on this blog.

I'm waiting on the blow-by-blow description of Sunday afternoon DMIN...the every 30 minute update of it falling apart.
You have just crushed their plans by telling them they have to wait for 30 minute intervals...they were so sure they could update the loops by just refreshing.
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304. reedzone 17:29 GMT le 19 juillet 2009    
Quoting IKE:


The drama on this blog.

I'm waiting on the blow-by-blow description of Sunday afternoon DMIN...the every 30 minute update of it falling apart.


Hi IKE
Any rain up there? it's really hot over here
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305. chsweatherintern2009 17:29 GMT le 19 juillet 2009    
Quoting IKE:


That was a 59 yr-old choke job.



It not over he has a 4 hole playoff with Cink
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306. SomeRandomTexan 17:30 GMT le 19 juillet 2009    
Quoting BurnedAfterPosting:


lol chill out, now you are calling it RIP again? come on now



LOL! I think some people just like RIPing storms...
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307. ssmate 17:30 GMT le 19 juillet 2009    
I realize that there are a lot of Watsoncasters out there but lets just relax and see how this plays out.
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308. Drakoen 17:30 GMT le 19 juillet 2009    
It's lower to mid level. Needs to become more prominent at the surface.
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309. sporteguy03 17:30 GMT le 19 juillet 2009    
Quoting Chicklit:
KmanIslander must be out golfing.
ShortWave
Will be interested to hear what he has to say, too! What d'ya think, Pottery?
Will 97L crash into shear and just give the Cayman Islands golf courses a good drenching?



Kman is in Vancouver going on a cruise although he said he may check in from time to time, Stormno is in San Salavdar for vacation.
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310. Orcasystems 17:30 GMT le 19 juillet 2009    
Blog Update
Reflector site for those at work, which includes Weather456, daily update.


AOI

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AOI
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311. DDR 17:30 GMT le 19 juillet 2009    
Quoting pottery:
Hey Zoo.
No rain to talk about. Some drizzles overnight. It is a beautiful day here.
Expecting some showers later, but most of the action looks to be north of me.

Hey pottery,how are you?
yea it is.its been raining here since mid-morning.
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312. IKE 17:30 GMT le 19 juillet 2009    
Quoting reedzone:


Hi IKE
Any rain up there? it's really hot over here


Nope...no rain...83 and partly sunny.
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313. BurnedAfterPosting 17:31 GMT le 19 juillet 2009    
Watsoncasters?

LMAO that is awesome lol
314. cirrocumulus 17:31 GMT le 19 juillet 2009    
>Another thing, it's an upper level trough - that does little to effect what's happening at the sfc with 97L imo.

I'm going with the overall satellite presentation to forecast a tropical depression in 48 hours from 5:27p.m. The troughs will not be as strong as normal due to local condition changes presently occuring in adjacent areas.
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315. hunkerdown 17:32 GMT le 19 juillet 2009    
Quoting HurricaneSwirl:


Shear is supposed to be over 20 knots over this system for nearly the rest of its life.

And so what if i did look at a past one? Shear needed to fall earlier. And it didn't. If it doesn't fall by tonight this thing might get ripped apart.
What are you talking about ? It has many miles to transverse with plenty of time for shear to increase or decrease. And as far as its "lifetime" track, you know what that is going to be ? Please, enlighten us all, and of course, why...
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316. reedzone 17:33 GMT le 19 juillet 2009    
Quoting IKE:


Nope...no rain...83 and partly sunny.


At least your not in the 90s like me lol.. I hate Florida.
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317. HurricaneSwirl 17:33 GMT le 19 juillet 2009    
Quoting BurnedAfterPosting:


You are basing that on what?


many models. models arent always right but the fact is the shear is very high just to its north and just to its west. if it slows down it'll probably be ok, but at this speed there wont be enough time for shear to fall imo.


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318. Drakoen 17:33 GMT le 19 juillet 2009    
LOL the NHC went with A what a surprise.
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319. BurnedAfterPosting 17:34 GMT le 19 juillet 2009    
A Wins!!!


320. Drakoen 17:34 GMT le 19 juillet 2009    
Doesn't seem to me like the NHC think much of this.
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321. JRRP 17:35 GMT le 19 juillet 2009    
000
ABNT20 KNHC 191732
TWOAT
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
200 PM EDT SUN JUL 19 2009

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

SHOWER AND THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY ASSOCIATED WITH A TROPICAL WAVE
LOCATED ABOUT 600 MILES EAST OF THE WINDWARD ISLANDS HAS BECOME
BETTER ORGANIZED OVER THE PAST SEVERAL HOURS. WHILE ENVIRONMENTAL
CONDITIONS ARE CURRENTLY FAVORABLE FOR SOME DEVELOPMENT OF THIS
SYSTEM...UPPER-LEVEL WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO BECOME LESS FAVORABLE
TONIGHT. REGARDLESS OF DEVELOPMENT...LOCALLY HEAVY RAINFALL AND
GUSTY WINDS COULD AFFECT THE WINDWARD ISLANDS ON MONDAY AS THE WAVE
MOVES WESTWARD AT 15 TO 20 MPH. THERE IS A LOW CHANCE...LESS THAN
30 PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.
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322. IKE 17:35 GMT le 19 juillet 2009    
Still yellow? Are you kidding me?

WTH?
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323. centex 17:36 GMT le 19 juillet 2009    
Quoting IKE:


That was a 59 yr-old choke job.

But not if old man outlast and wins playoff. That approach shot killed him.
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324. pottery 17:35 GMT le 19 juillet 2009    
DDR lucky you !
I have been watching the rain fall on you ! LOL
Wish it would fall here, I would be able to finish some chopping of trees. Right now, it is just too damm hot to go out there...
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326. Drakoen 17:36 GMT le 19 juillet 2009    
Quoting IKE:
Still yellow? Are you kidding me?

WTH?


It's going to need to get that pinhole eye before they get it to orange.
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327. moonlightcowboy 17:36 GMT le 19 juillet 2009    
Convection is blowing up over the coc, turning becoming more evident, moving a bit slower, too, I think. I think 97L is stretching its legs, getting ready to show out a bit. Def, def, definitely orange. ;)
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328. FloridaTigers 17:36 GMT le 19 juillet 2009    
Quoting Drakoen:
LOL the NHC went with A what a surprise.


What a shock.
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329. sporteguy03 17:36 GMT le 19 juillet 2009    
Quoting IKE:
Still yellow? Are you kidding me?

WTH?


Comebacks for the yellow circle Ike? lol :)
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330. reedzone 17:37 GMT le 19 juillet 2009    
Hmm.. Well shear is supposed to rise so maybe not TOO much of a surprise. Imagine 97L becomes a Depression right before the shear hits it and the NHC skips it lol. Only a low chance, but hey, stranger thing have happened.
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331. hurricane23 17:37 GMT le 19 juillet 2009    
Again upper conditions lol do not favor any significant intensification.Clear signs of el nino when you look at the caribbean fast westerlies all across.NHC keeps it at yellow.
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332. WPBHurricane05 17:37 GMT le 19 juillet 2009    
Yellow??? I seriously thought they would go red, or at least orange.
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333. IKE 17:37 GMT le 19 juillet 2009    
Quoting Drakoen:


It's going to need to get that pinhole eye before they get it to orange.


LMAO.....LMAO.....what does it take with these folks?

That is a yellow and that blob west of it that got killed was yellow?

I wave the white flag w/the NHC.
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334. hunkerdown 17:37 GMT le 19 juillet 2009    
Quoting Drakoen:


It's going to need to get that pinhole eye before they get it to orange.
Maybe they are out of orange and red crayons. Budget cuts may have kept them from replenishing their supplies.
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335. sporteguy03 17:37 GMT le 19 juillet 2009    
well if conditions tonight aren't less favorable hmmm...
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336. HurricaneSwirl 17:38 GMT le 19 juillet 2009    
OMG. This blog has got to be one of the most ridiculous of blogs.

JUST because I disagree with you and say it wont develop I get bashed and called a drama maker. WTH? Aren't I allowed an opinion?

JRRP said it wouldn't develop
Taz did too.

But they don't get bashed? Why, is it because they're older and have been here longer?

I'm saying shear is just too high, as always with an El Nino year.

I know you guys want a storm but in my opinion this isn't it.
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338. Cavin Rawlins 17:38 GMT le 19 juillet 2009    
A has it
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339. JRRP 17:38 GMT le 19 juillet 2009    
damn..... i was trying to use inverse psychology but .....
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340. Drakoen 17:38 GMT le 19 juillet 2009    
Quoting IKE:


LMAO.....LMAO.....what does it take with these folks?

That is a yellow and that blob west of it that got killed was yellow?

I wave the white flag w/the NHC.


They did it for the lulz. Brennan and Blake aren't phased.
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341. moonlightcowboy 17:38 GMT le 19 juillet 2009    
Quoting IKE:


LMAO.....LMAO.....what does it take with these folks?

That is a yellow and that blob west of it that got killed was yellow?

I wave the white flag w/the NHC.


Yup, Ike, I felt that way with, what was it, 91L that made landfall near Mobile.
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342. IKE 17:38 GMT le 19 juillet 2009    
Quoting hunkerdown:
Maybe they are out of orange and red crayons. Budget cuts may have kept them from replenishing their supplies.


Apparently.
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343. BurnedAfterPosting 17:39 GMT le 19 juillet 2009    
Quoting HurricaneSwirl:
OMG. This blog has got to be one of the most ridiculous of blogs.

JUST because I disagree with you and say it wont develop I get bashed and called a drama maker. WTH? Aren't I allowed an opinion?

JRRP said it wouldn't develop
Taz did too.

But they don't get bashed? Why, is it because they're older and have been here longer?

I'm saying shear is just too high, as always with an El Nino year.

I know you guys want a storm but in my opinion this isn't it.


Chill out, you got so many responses because of how you posted. Go look at your post again and you will see why.
345. IKE 17:39 GMT le 19 juillet 2009    
Quoting moonlightcowboy:


Yup, Ike, I felt that way with, what was it, 91L that made landfall near Mobile.


Think it was 90L...yeah, they were classic on that one...scheduling a 100 mile recon flight for 6 hours after it made landfall.....
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346. HurricaneSwirl 17:39 GMT le 19 juillet 2009    
Quoting hurricane23:
Again upper conditions lol do not favor any significant intensification.Clear signs of el nino when you look at the caribbean fast westerlies all across.NHC keeps it at yellow.


Thank you.
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347. hunkerdown 17:39 GMT le 19 juillet 2009    
Quoting HurricaneSwirl:
OMG. This blog has got to be one of the most ridiculous of blogs.

JUST because I disagree with you and say it wont develop I get bashed and called a drama maker. WTH? Aren't I allowed an opinion?

JRRP said it wouldn't develop
Taz did too.

But they don't get bashed? Why, is it because they're older and have been here longer?

I'm saying shear is just too high, as always with an El Nino year.

I know you guys want a storm but in my opinion this isn't it.
And we can write you off as you are writing IT off....El Nino blows both ways.
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349. WPBHurricane05 17:40 GMT le 19 juillet 2009    
More inconsistencies at the NHC. Whatever...they're the experts.
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350. Drakoen 17:40 GMT le 19 juillet 2009    
Quoting moonlightcowboy:


Yup, Ike, I felt that way with, what was it, 91L that made landfall near Mobile.


I thought that 91L was a minimal tropical storm when it made landfall. NHC is too conservative this season.
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351. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 17:40 GMT le 19 juillet 2009    


convective tops warming
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