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Adieu to Danny
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 09:50 GMT le 29 août 2009 +0
Hi, Dr. Rob Carver filling in for Dr. Masters. With the 5AM EST update, NHC has discontinued issuing the tropical storm watches and will no longer issue any updates about the storm. Danny has gone extratropical and has merged with a frontal low off the Carolina coast. The most recent aircraft reconnaissance flight was unable to find a cyclonic circulation or tropical storm force winds in the remnants of Danny.

That isn't to say that Danny's remnants don't pose an element of risk for the East Coast. High surf from large swells is expected along the East Coast. New England can expect to see a lot of rain as Denny's remnants fly by.

Invest 94L

Invest 94L is still out near South America, but it's convective activity seems to be cycling down right now. The global models (GFS and GEM) do pull 94L (to be precise, a feature that could be 94L) north of the Lesser Antilles. Given how the GFDL has performed with other Invests this season, I can wait a day or so before they run the GFDL for this storm.

East Pacific and elsewhere

For those of you wanting to look at tropical storms, Jimena has just formed in the Eastern Pacific basin. The track uncertainty is fairly large, so I'll be keeping an eye on this storm to see if it will impact Mexico or the American Southwest. In the Western Pacific, Tropical Storm Krovahn looks like it will be grazing the Japanese coastline just east of Tokyo Bay.

I'll give Invest94L a chance to see the Sun and then I'll update this entry.

Update:1545 EDT

G'afternoon everybody, Invest94L has perked up a little since this's morning blog entry. In my judgment, the extent and peak magnitude of convection has increased, and scatterometer data shows that Invest94L has a weak cyclonic circulation. Here's the 9Z ascending pass:

Quickscat Pass over Invest94L
Figure 1Ascending Quikscat pass centered over Invest94L at 9Z Aug 29 2009.

There will be a big update tonight after the 00Z model cycle data comes in.
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952. Cavin Rawlins 21:55 GMT le 29 août 2009    
Rather disorganiz showers


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953. connie1976 21:56 GMT le 29 août 2009    
On the weather channel, they are saying that Invest 94L is basically nothing and has very little chance of becoming anything..... do you all agree? why? Thanks!
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954. Tazmanian 21:58 GMT le 29 août 2009    
Quoting extreme236:


Maybe.



ok
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955. stormwatcherCI 21:57 GMT le 29 août 2009    
Quoting connie1976:
On the weather channel, they are saying that Invest 94L is basically nothing and has very little chance of becoming anything..... do you all agree? why? Thanks!
I wouldn't put too much stock in TWC if I were you. They always seem to be "Johnny Come Lately" with anything tropical.
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956. extreme236 21:57 GMT le 29 août 2009    
Quoting connie1976:
On the weather channel, they are saying that Invest 94L is basically nothing and has very little chance of becoming anything..... do you all agree? why? Thanks!


They base their info on the NHC outlooks.
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957. FloridaTigers 21:57 GMT le 29 août 2009    
Quoting StadiumEffect:
Good stuff! There are a few FIU students on here I've noticed.


Really? I haven't noticed anyone else, or I haven't seen em. I'm majoring in Anthropology, but weather is a big hobby. I'm surprised FIU doesn't have a larger meteorology program, seeing how the NHC is on campus.
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958. Cavin Rawlins 21:57 GMT le 29 août 2009    
Quoting BurnedAfterPosting:


why are they lunatic?


I guess its becuz the official guidance is well east of most of the models.
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959. stormwatcherCI 21:58 GMT le 29 août 2009    
Did everyone notice Dr Master's update at the top of the page ?
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960. stormpetrol 21:59 GMT le 29 août 2009    
Quoting Hurricane009:
what are the coordinates for 94L??

I estimate it to be around 10.8N/45W with a movement West to slightly north of due west. We'll have to quikscat to see if it catches it tonight.
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963. HadesGodWyvern 22:00 GMT le 29 août 2009    
Japan Meteorological Agency
Tropical Cyclone Advisory #14
SEVERE TROPICAL STORM KROVANH (T0911)
6:00 AM JST August 30 2009
=========================================

Subject: Category Two Typhoon In Sea East Of Japan

At 21:00 PM UTC, Severe Tropical Storm Krovanh (985 hPa) located at 30.2N 143.7E has 10 minute sustained winds of 50 knots with gusts of 70 knots. The storm is reported as moving west-northwest at 16 knots.

RSMC Dvorak Intensity:

Gale-Force Winds
================
180 NM from the center in eastern quadrant
120 NM from the center in western quadrant

Forecast and Intensity
======================
24 HRS: 33.5N 140.5E - 55 knots (CAT 2/Severe Tropical Storm)
45 HRS: 38.4N 142.2E - 50 knots (CAT 2/Severe Tropical Storm)
69 HRS: 44.3N 150.1E - EXTRATROPICAL
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964. jipmg 22:00 GMT le 29 août 2009    
Quoting stormwatcherCI:
Did everyone notice Dr Master's update at the top of the page ?


yes I did
965. Tazmanian 22:00 GMT le 29 août 2009    
Dr Master's is off this weekend
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966. CaneHunter031472 22:00 GMT le 29 août 2009    
94L did all it was going to do for today. I will be surprised if it makes it overnight.
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967. taco2me61 22:01 GMT le 29 août 2009    
Quoting connie1976:
On the weather channel, they are saying that Invest 94L is basically nothing and has very little chance of becoming anything..... do you all agree? why? Thanks!

with all due respect to TWC I think in 24 to 36 hrs they will be back talking about that invest... I think it will be back as well.... but as a depression it will track more of a westerly movment than once thought of....

Just what I'm seeing right now....

Taco :0)
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968. Relix 22:01 GMT le 29 août 2009    
Hey the circulation seems to be pretty much where I guessed =P, not bad hahaha. I will await for that new update, should be interesting.
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969. BDAwx 22:02 GMT le 29 août 2009    
Quoting Tazmanian:
any one think that JIMENA will hit cat 5??

I think there is a very good chance... i also say that Mexico needs to watch out
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970. HadesGodWyvern 22:03 GMT le 29 août 2009    
Japan Meteorological Agency
Tropical Cyclone Advisory #2
TROPICAL DEPRESSION
3:00 AM JST August 30 2009
=========================================

At 21:00 PM UTC, Tropical Depression CP022009 (1004 hPa) located at 15.5N 178.9W has 10 minute sustained winds of 30 knots with gusts of 45 knots. The depression is reported as moving west-northwest at 6 knots.

Forecast and Intensity
======================
24 HRS: 15.4N 176.8E - 35 knots (CAT 1/Tropical Storm)

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971. connie1976 22:03 GMT le 29 août 2009    
Thank you all!! :)
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972. Cavin Rawlins 22:06 GMT le 29 août 2009    
I would like to see 94L move northwest as some of the models say. They are not handling this invest very well. For 94L to miss the islands it would have to go NW from this point on. The storm will likely go wnw then nw as the trough advances east and creates a weakness in the subtropical ridge but given its increasing distance from Bill at that same longitude, this feature could come too close for comfort. Even the TPC have 94L moving wnw over the next 24 hrs.

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973. stormwatcherCI 22:06 GMT le 29 août 2009    
Quoting Tazmanian:
Dr Master's is off this weekend
Sorry, my bad. Dr. Carver. Just so used to seeing Dr. Masters up there.
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974. stormpetrol 22:08 GMT le 29 août 2009    
94L has 2 spins but looking at the last visible loop again I see the mean COC at 10.5N/42.5W.
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975. ackee 22:08 GMT le 29 août 2009    
IT seem like 94L have us all guessing the models are off 94L contiue to track west
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976. Drakoen 22:10 GMT le 29 août 2009    
TPC:

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977. StormFreakyisher 22:10 GMT le 29 août 2009    
The more west it goes, the more it is a threat to the islands and the CONUS right?
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978. Relix 22:11 GMT le 29 août 2009    
Quoting Weather456:
I would like to see 94L move northwest as some of the models say. They are not handling this invest very well. For 94L to miss the islands it would have to go NW from this point on. The storm will likely go wnw then nw as the trough advances east and creates a weakness in the subtropical ridge but given its increasing distance from Bill at that same longitude, this feature could come too close for comfort. Even the TPC have 94L moving wnw.



It's either north of us or over us right? heh
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979. TexasHurricane 22:13 GMT le 29 août 2009    
Quoting StormFreakyisher:
The more west it goes, the more it is a threat to the islands and the CONUS right?


I'd have to say yes...
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981. Drakoen 22:13 GMT le 29 août 2009    
If it get's into the Caribbean it will not survive. The upper level winds, with the magnitude of the 850mb winds, will be unfavorable for development. The GFS shows upper level cyclonic flow in that region.
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982. Cavin Rawlins 22:13 GMT le 29 août 2009    
Quoting Relix:


It's either north of us or over us right? heh


probably so and if its north of us, its closest approach may be 1/2 to 3/4 the distance of Bill.
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983. TheDawnAwakening 22:13 GMT le 29 août 2009    
I see that 94L invest is improving in its structure. Why? First of all the system seems more stacked vertically on satellite imagery. There is really no more NE to SW elongated convection with the convection now more in line of N-S and W-E. Also there is stronger low level convergence seen with the banding features gaining thunderstorm activity and it appears the strongest storms lie on the southern side of the circulation. For now it will probably take 24 hours to strengthen and be organized enough for a well defined surface circulation which right now the surface circulation is a little elongated and broad which will preclude any major intensification.

I see Jimena appears to be weakening a little going through an eyewall replacement cycle and a moat around the central CDO. Banding is almost gone as well as outflow on the eastern side of the circulation as the low remains well organized and very strong. I think peak intensity with Jimena will be exactly what the NHC says at 145mph category four hurricane.
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984. stormpetrol 22:14 GMT le 29 août 2009    
My personal opinion 94L if it develops into anything significant is in a ticklish spot for leewards & windswards, central & NW Caribbean, yucatan & gulf States including WEst Florida, jmo.
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985. BenBIogger 22:15 GMT le 29 août 2009    
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987. Cavin Rawlins 22:16 GMT le 29 août 2009    
The biggest threats seem to be the Leewards and Puerto Rico. Still to early to tell if the entire system will be picked up by the trough like Bill but some northerly motion is expected as a weakness develops thus the chances of a track similar to Dean or Ivan is small.
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988. JamesSA 22:16 GMT le 29 août 2009    
Quoting stormpetrol:
94L has 2 spins but looking at the last visible loop again I see the mean COC at 10.5N/42.5W.


There has been total DENIAL of the direction this thing has actually moved over the past few days by both the models and most of the people watching it. The only "model" that has had it consistently nailed has been XTRP.
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989. Drakoen 22:17 GMT le 29 août 2009    
Convection is steadily on the increase with the system
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990. mobilegirl81 22:17 GMT le 29 août 2009    
Quoting stormpetrol:

Ivan was forcasted originally when it developed to move more northernly into Bahamas and probably hit the east coast , maybe you can check the archive and find out.

It is very identical.
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991. ackee 22:18 GMT le 29 août 2009    
quick poll will 94L track

A. WEST
b. WNW
C NW
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992. stormwatcherCI 22:19 GMT le 29 août 2009    
Quoting ackee:
quick poll will 94L track

A. WEST
b. WNW
C NW
A
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993. Cavin Rawlins 22:19 GMT le 29 août 2009    
Pobably the best models to track 94L is the ones that have verified thus far. NW track unlikely until about 3-5 days.
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994. StormFreakyisher 22:20 GMT le 29 août 2009    
Well the Herbert Box definitely plays some role in where 94L is moving.
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997. Relix 22:21 GMT le 29 août 2009    
I am going to make my first track ever... working on it haha =P
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998. JamesSA 22:21 GMT le 29 août 2009    
Quoting Drakoen:
If it get's into the Caribbean it will not survive. The upper level winds, with the magnitude of the 850mb winds, will be unfavorable for development. The GFS shows upper level cyclonic flow in that region.


Some of us would rather not see that assumption tested in the real world. ;-)
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1000. TheDawnAwakening 22:21 GMT le 29 août 2009    
On the quick poll of direction I would go with a West and then turn to the WNW in the next 24 hours. So for now I continue with the thought of West so A.

Drak, this invest is steadily growing convection and banding is improving. I would like to see banding improve before the central convection so that it has a means of continuing moisture feed into the circulation to sustain convection within the CDO.
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1001. Drakoen 22:23 GMT le 29 août 2009    
Quoting TheDawnAwakening:
On the quick poll of direction I would go with a West and then turn to the WNW in the next 24 hours. So for now I continue with the thought of West so A.

Drak, this invest is steadily growing convection and banding is improving. I would like to see banding improve before the central convection so that it has a means of continuing moisture feed into the circulation to sustain convection within the CDO.


Correct. That's why I have been monitoring the MIMIC-TPW to monitor the moisture and the circulation and how defined it is becoming.
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