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Erika dumping heavy rain on the Lesser Antilles
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 14:12 GMT le 03 septembre 2009 +1
Tropical Storm Erika is hanging together despite strong wind shear, and is bringing high winds and much-needed heavy rain to the Lesser Antilles Islands. Winds on the south shore of Dominica Island were sustained at 37 mph this morning, and 8.03" of rain have been measured at the airport over the past two days. Winds and rain at nearby islands have been less, according to our wundermap for the region. The Hurricane Hunters are in the storm now, and have generally encountered top winds of 40 - 45 mph at the surface. They did find one spot of 50 - 65 mph winds, but that was likely due to outflow from a strong thunderstorm, and is not representative of Erika's wind field.


Figure 1. Radar image of Tropical Storm Erika at 9:15am EDT 9/3/09. Image credit: Meteo France.

Erika has improved in organization a bit since last night, but remains weak and disorganized, thanks to about 20 knots of shear at the 200 mb level, as seen on last night's Guadeloupe upper air sounding. Radar animations out of Martinique show plenty of heavy rain moving through the Lesser Antilles, but little organization of the echoes. Satellite imagery shows no low-level spiral bands and little upper-level outflow. Long range radar out of Puerto Rico is beginning to show rain echoes from Erika approaching the island.

The forecast for Erika
The computer models have come into better agreement about the track of Erika, taking the storm west-northwest over Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic. This track will take Erika into a band of significantly higher wind shear of 25 - 35 knots, Friday through Saturday. Considering that Erika is barely maintaining itself as a tropical storm with 20 knots of shear, the combined effects of the higher shear and the encounter with the high mountains of Hispaniola and Puerto Rico should be enough to cause Erika to dissipate by Sunday. Erika's remains will still be capable of dumping very heavy rains of 3 - 5 inches over the Dominican Republic and 1 - 3 inches over Haiti and the Southeast Bahamas, due to the slow motion of the storm. By Monday, when the remains of Erika should be over the Bahamas, the storm will have penetrated through the band of high wind shear over the Greater Antilles, and shear may fall low enough for redevelopment of the storm. This is a scenario offered by the NOGAPS model, which then takes Erika northward towards North Carolina. The other models predict quite a bit more shear in the region than the NOGAPS, and any redevelopment of Erika early next week remains an iffy proposition. The GFDL and HWRF models continue to insist that Erika will brush off the high shear this weekend, avoid Hispaniola, and intensify into a Category 2 hurricane five days from now. These models have not been giving enough emphasis to how the current shear is affecting Erika, and are being discounted at this time.

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Elsewhere in the Atlantic
A large, strong tropical wave with plenty of spin emerged from the coast of Africa this morning. The wave is not yet generating much in the way of heavy thunderstorms, but has the potential to gradually develop into a tropical depression by early next week. NHC is giving this wave a low (less than 30% chance) of developing into a tropical depression by Saturday. The GFS model has been consistently developing this wave in its runs over the past few days.

I'll have an update this afternoon.

Jeff Masters
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451. Floodman 17:31 GMT le 03 septembre 2009    
Quoting justalurker:
back, what did i miss?

wow blog has only 442 posts, erika must of vanished!!


You missed further arguments on whether Erika will strengthen/weaken, move WSW, W, WNW or NW, arguments on the efficacy of the models currently used for forecasting, a brief lesson in Latin (where I showed how badly I misspent my youth) and Orcasystems unintentional blinding of himself...did I miss anything, guys?
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452. toasterbell 17:31 GMT le 03 septembre 2009    
Flood, I can't remember how to decline my nouns anymore... that hurts my brain!

I've got a question for those of you in emergency management/disaster response. Can you tell me where to find information on career opportunities in the field? I'm kind of looking for a career change, and I think it's an area that I'd enjoy.

TIA!

Poor Erika has had a hard life. However, I bet she keeps TS status for at least one more update. No matter what, I bet they're not going to want to cancel the watches for PR after they've already told people to prepare.
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453. stoormfury 17:31 GMT le 03 septembre 2009    
1010mb surface low 14N 34w moving west. very little convection at the moment. area of disturbed weather off the african coast looking impressive and could be our next invest and storm
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454. stormsurge39 17:31 GMT le 03 septembre 2009    
For anybody that has an opinion on this, Please tell me on the Sat loop,is Erika going a little S or is the wind sheer blowing the NW tops off ? Or is it both?
455. jeffs713 17:32 GMT le 03 septembre 2009    
Quoting Floodman:


XP Pro Sp3 with IE8 and no strertch, not even before IE8 using IE7

IE7 has the fix (that was started by FF) of automatically sizing images to fit.

IE6 will do it also, but only when you open the image by itself. If it is embedded via HTML, it displays in its full blog-stretching glory.
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456. justalurker 17:32 GMT le 03 septembre 2009    
Quoting Floodman:


You missed further arguments on whether Erika will strengthen/weaken, move WSW, W, WNW or NW, arguments on the efficacy of the models currently used for forecasting, a brief lesson in Latin (where I showed how badly I misspent my youth) and Orcasystems unintentional blinding of himself...did I miss anything, guys?


pretty much same topics as a month ago!!1
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457. pearlandaggie 17:33 GMT le 03 septembre 2009    
451. nope, that about does it. ;)
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458. Orcasystems 17:34 GMT le 03 septembre 2009    
This is going to be another one of those flights where they fly around like a drunk sailor looking for a free drink... the COC's will be all over the place.

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459. StonedCrab 17:34 GMT le 03 septembre 2009    
Quoting Floodman:


Stultus mos operor ut stultus mos operor; sapiens vir temerarius is non

Damn, I've forgotten a lot of subjugation


E Pluribus Unum my friend!
Let's burn a wheel!
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460. justalurker 17:34 GMT le 03 septembre 2009    
Quoting pearlandaggie:
431. what is it when you're at work but not *working*? LOL

lentesco off??


isnt that a yoga bear aflac commercial..LOL
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461. watchingnva 17:35 GMT le 03 septembre 2009    
still finding 1009mb and 25mph surface winds near the westward marching swirl...lol

Link
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462. Dakster 17:35 GMT le 03 septembre 2009    
Quoting jeffs713:
212. I'm not quite sure how to respond to that. You obviously didn't lose any possessions, nor did you get to experience the excitement of feeling your entire apartment building move with each wind gust. And you apparently are completely ok working in an office with 400 other people with 80 computers between you. Or taking cold showers every day until your power came back on. Or when you want a drink, you have a choice between room temp water, room temp gatorade, or room temp (and flat) soda. Oh, lets not forget having intermittent contact with the outside world, and being concerned for your family who lives an hour away.

Yeah, thats all terribly exciting.


I had too much contact with the oustide world... The cold showers were not as annoying as the incessant HEAT as A/C doesn't work too well without power. I don't know how you had computers working without power. Driving is hectic/dangerous as no traffic lights work...

Yes fun times for all. Looking forward to never doing it again. All other perils were as you described...
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463. presslord 17:35 GMT le 03 septembre 2009    
Quoting pearlandaggie:
431. what is it when you're at work but not *working*? LOL

It means you work for me...
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464. dolphingalrules 17:35 GMT le 03 septembre 2009    
2:00 is right around the corner. we will see then
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465. Floodman 17:35 GMT le 03 septembre 2009    
Quoting Chavalito:
Just waiting for the confirmation: Erica is dead... Without convection and heavy thunderstorms and cold cloud tops it's almost impossible for Erika to survive. Requiem in Pacem...


Ahhh, I see...not a bad education, it's an unwillingness to learn...LOL

Bacca pro sus...
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466. pearlandaggie 17:36 GMT le 03 septembre 2009    
460. that's pretty funny--i didn't think of it that way!

463. you need some new workhands! LOL
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468. watchingnva 17:36 GMT le 03 septembre 2009    
Quoting Orcasystems:
This is going to be another one of those flights where they fly around like a drunk sailor looking for a free drink... the COC's will be all over the place.



agree completely....but i do think the 2 they will spend most time with will be the swirl their at now and the apparent newer coc in the islands...we will see what they find...
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469. IKE 17:36 GMT le 03 septembre 2009    
I see the naked swirl racing west near 17N and 65W.

I also see another swirl with convection near 16N and 62W.
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470. justalurker 17:37 GMT le 03 septembre 2009    
Quoting dolphingalrules:
2:00 is right around the corner. we will see then


whos around the corner? the boogie man!!

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471. Bonz 17:37 GMT le 03 septembre 2009    
"Driving is hectic/dangerous as no traffic lights work..."

LOL. At least you had the physical structures of traffic lights. Down here, Wilma stripped almost every single light in the county off of their wires. Boy those things are BIG close up!
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472. futurenavymet 17:38 GMT le 03 septembre 2009    
could this be another fay? i hope not. looks like its gonna rain every day in fl this week and next week. geez!
473. nrtiwlnvragn 17:38 GMT le 03 septembre 2009    


Just saw that a low is shown on the 24 hour surface forecast but then just a wave on the 48 hour surface forecast. On the 48 hour you can see a low moving into the graphic.
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474. lurkn4yrs 17:38 GMT le 03 septembre 2009    
Omg! I'm gonna need another shot of cuban coffee to keep up with this storm...
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475. RJT185 17:38 GMT le 03 septembre 2009    
Quoting Floodman:


You missed further arguments on whether Erika will strengthen/weaken, move WSW, W, WNW or NW, arguments on the efficacy of the models currently used for forecasting, a brief lesson in Latin (where I showed how badly I misspent my youth) and Orcasystems unintentional blinding of himself...did I miss anything, guys?


People confessing they were posting/blogging from work, lol. And sharing of OS's and browser configurations.
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476. Dakster 17:38 GMT le 03 septembre 2009    
Quoting Orcasystems:


I still have the disks at home in my office... 3.5 and 5.25


I still got tape backup and 8" floppies. Need any extras? I keep them next to my manual calculator.

Hey Flood, do you still have the compass galileo gave you?
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477. Floodman 17:38 GMT le 03 septembre 2009    
Quoting Bonz:
"Driving is hectic/dangerous as no traffic lights work..."

LOL. At least you had the physical structures of traffic lights. Down here, Wilma stripped almost every single light in the county off of their wires. Boy those things are BIG close up!


Another thing: you can stand next to a 60' coastal pine and never realize how tall it really is until you see it laying across the neighbor's house...
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478. TampaSpin 17:39 GMT le 03 septembre 2009    
We might actually have a true established LLC finally near St. Johns island...



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479. DellOperator 17:39 GMT le 03 septembre 2009    
Quoting IKE:
I see the naked swirl racing west near 17N and 65W.

I also see another swirl with convection near 16N and 62W.


She just keeps on shedding her skin. Same as yesterday afternoon. This may mean we are going to begin to see the NHC go ahead and shift the official forecast positions more west yet. She is just staying too low for the typical steering forces to move her like the models think they will.
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480. Chiggy007 17:40 GMT le 03 septembre 2009    
The new wave off Africa has Bill's size and vorticity..

Any take on here...? :)
481. Floodman 17:40 GMT le 03 septembre 2009    
Quoting Dakster:


I still got tape backup and 8" floppies. Need any extras? I keep them next to my manual calculator.

Hey Flood, do you still have the compass galileo gave you?


Indeed I do...use it daily...GPS indeed...
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482. dolphingalrules 17:40 GMT le 03 septembre 2009    
i double that..i live out west..where it would take 20 minutes it took 2 hours with alot of right turns
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483. Bonz 17:40 GMT le 03 septembre 2009    
"Another thing: you can stand next to a 60' coastal pine and never realize how tall it really is until you see it laying across the neighbor's house..."

True. The neighbor across the street had one come down and break through his patio hurricane shutters. (He lives on a canal and there were a row of those pines. What Frances and Jeanne didn't finish off, Wilma did.) No more big pines.
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484. tbrett 17:40 GMT le 03 septembre 2009    
Quoting Floodman:


You missed further arguments on whether Erika will strengthen/weaken, move WSW, W, WNW or NW, arguments on the efficacy of the models currently used for forecasting, a brief lesson in Latin (where I showed how badly I misspent my youth) and Orcasystems unintentional blinding of himself...did I miss anything, guys?

You could have saved your self a lot of typing by putting "same ol same ol" LOL (except Orcasystems blinding himself, that one was new)
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485. Dakster 17:41 GMT le 03 septembre 2009    
Quoting Floodman:


Another thing: you can stand next to a 60' coastal pine and never realize how tall it really is until you see it laying across the neighbor's house...


LOL. hey flood you write latin very well... Did you live in rome during the crusades?
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486. StonedCrab 17:41 GMT le 03 septembre 2009    
Magister Mundi sum!
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489. pearlandaggie 17:43 GMT le 03 septembre 2009    
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490. RJT185 17:44 GMT le 03 septembre 2009    
Quoting Dakster:


I had too much contact with the oustide world... The cold showers were not as annoying as the incessant HEAT as A/C doesn't work too well without power. I don't know how you had computers working without power. Driving is hectic/dangerous as no traffic lights work...

Yes fun times for all. Looking forward to never doing it again. All other perils were as you described...


Ice becoming a commodity people fight strangers over, and nights so eerily quiet you can hear a pin drop in areas where otherwise noise polution would have been deafening.

...I still remember clearly what Georges did to Jayuya and Ponce...as exhiliarating as it was for me as a youngster aspiring to be a meteorologist...I wouldn't wish it upon any island.
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492. DellOperator 17:44 GMT le 03 septembre 2009    
Quoting TampaSpin:
We might actually have a true established LLC finally near St. Johns island...
Quoting TampaSpin:
We might actually have a true established LLC finally near St. Johns island...





That bright swirl you are mentioning is the mid level swirl. Surface circulation out ran its upper structure it was trying to rebuild. A repeat performance Erika put on yesterday.
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493. Floodman 17:44 GMT le 03 septembre 2009    
Quoting Dakster:


LOL. hey flood you write latin very well... Did you live in rome during the crusades?


No, but as a Saracen I did get to interview a great many priests

**SIGH**

The old days
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494. BDAwx 17:44 GMT le 03 septembre 2009    
Quoting LPStormspotter:


Wow. Gotta stink when something is coming your way... I live in SE Tx. My sister lived in Fort Worth for many years. said everybody there would say.. I wish houston would get hit so we can get some rain.. Its sad but true. To wish something like that for rain. Not thinking of the people who loose everything they have worked for. Or the kids who have to change schools and loose everything they have and their friends. i know after going thru Alicia,Allison,and Ike i would never wish that on anyone. I live 5 miles from Sylvan Beach. At the same time this is my home and im not leaving


i would never wish a hurricane on anyone for rain because there are other ways that you can get rain eg. a cold front. but they do produce rain despite their devastation.

Bermuda could use some rain... last month we only got 3.32in. usually we get 5.64in. despite Bills outer bands, and since august of 2008 we are in a deficit of 8+inches. and high pressures seems to have set in...

But everything on this island is built to withstand winds up to 110mph. or is built better, so i have never experienced losing everything i have or having schools completely destroyed, not many here have. It is common, though, to be cut off from the rest of the world as the singular airport is closed or ships aren't allowed in, and to have no power for up to a month after a storm. On top of that everything is very expensive.
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495. Orcasystems 17:44 GMT le 03 septembre 2009    
Quoting tbrett:

You could have saved your self a lot of typing by putting "same ol same ol" LOL (except Orcasystems blinding himself, that one was new)


That could come under same same also.. I am normally good for at least one stupid thing a day. If you have doubts.. ask SWMBO'ed.

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496. Squid28 17:45 GMT le 03 septembre 2009    
Quoting LPStormspotter:


Wow. Gotta stink when something is coming your way... I live in SE Tx. My sister lived in Fort Worth for many years. said everybody there would say.. I wish houston would get hit so we can get some rain.. Its sad but true. To wish something like that for rain. Not thinking of the people who loose everything they have worked for. Or the kids who have to change schools and loose everything they have and their friends. i know after going thru Alicia,Allison,and Ike i would never wish that on anyone. I live 5 miles from Sylvan Beach. At the same time this is my home and im not leaving


heck we are up to 48% post Ike occupancy here at the corner of Shoreacres & La Porte now (adjusted for those homes torn down already). Who knows maybe I will quit seeing demo trucks in another year or so.

LPSS Did you go to LPHS? If so what year for grad?
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498. justalurker 17:45 GMT le 03 septembre 2009    
Quoting iceman55:
all models dodo very poor job.


dodo???
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499. TheDawnAwakening 17:45 GMT le 03 septembre 2009    
I don't think shear or dry air are making the thunderstorm tops warm, but the fact that she is reorganizing a new stronger and large low level circulation near 16N and 62W. Convection is now flaring with the new developing low level circulation. If the hurricane hunters just bypassed the old low level circulation without doing any crisscrosses then the NHC and the HH might think that she is forming the newer and large circulation over the Leeward Islands. I believe that this is the first time that the whole convective mass is showing rotation within one low pressure center, this is the reorganizing state we have all been waiting for, but it could be too late for her to strengthen much more than a 50mph tropical storm.
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501. watchingnva 17:46 GMT le 03 septembre 2009    
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shes definitely taken on a much better cyclonic look over the last few hours with the banding...
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