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Fred is dead; the Atlantic is quiet
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 13:16 GMT le 13 septembre 2009 +4
Hurricane Fred is dead, thanks to strong wind shear that finished tearing the storm apart yesterday. While the remains of Fred have generated a burst of heavy thunderstorms this morning, prohibitively high wind shear of 40 - 50 knots today through Monday will prevent regeneration, and should be able to completely disrupt the remnant circulation of Fred.

A tropical wave about 200 miles southeast of the Cape Verdes Islands, just off the coast of Africa, remains disorganized. This morning's QuikSCAT pass showed an elongated circulation, and one spot of 45 mph winds in the small clump of heavy thunderstorms on the south side of the circulation. The wave is under about 20 knots of wind shear, and may show some slow development beginning Monday, when the shear should drop below 20 knots. NHC is giving this system a low (less than 30% chance) or developing into a tropical depression by Tuesday.

A low pressure system that was over the Texas Gulf of Mexico coast has moved inland, and is not a threat to develop into a tropical cyclone. Tropical storm development is possible this week along a frontal zone stretching from Florida to the waters between the Bahamas and North Carolina. However, wind shear will be relatively high in this region, and anything that develops may end up being extratropical in nature.


Figure 1. The remains of Tropical Storm Fred (left) appear as a swirl of low-level clouds with a clump of heavy thunderstorm activity on the north side. A new tropical disturbance near the coast of Africa is disorganized, due to 20 knots of wind shear.

Twenty years ago on this date
On September 13, 1989, Tropical Storm Hugo continued its westward march at 20 mph towards the Lesser Antilles Islands. Shortly after midnight on the 13th, satellite analysts at the National Hurricane Center noted a Central Dense Overcast (CDO) of thick cirrus clouds was forming over the center. The CDO was evidence that Hugo was beginning to build an eyewall. The thunderstorms in the eyewall were now powerful enough to lift large amounts of moisture 45,000 feet high, where the stable air of the stratosphere lay. Unable to penetrate into the stratosphere, the air lifted by Hugo's thunderstorms was forced to spread outward into a thick, circular layer of cirrus clouds--the CDO--that hid the storm's core. The mystery of what was happening beneath the Central Dense Overcast became apparent a few hours later, when a murky eye appeared. At 8 am EDT on the 13th, the National Hurricane Center upgraded Hugo to hurricane status.

At NOAA's Office of Aircraft Operations--the hurricane hunting division of NOAA--we busily prepared for tomorrow's deployment to Barbados of both of our P-3 Orion hurricane hunting aircraft. There were dropsondes and Air-Expendable Bathythermographs to load, computer checks to make, and calibration data to load. We chatted excitedly about the new hurricane that looked like an excellent case study for the hurricane scientists. But there was also an undercurrent of uneasiness to our cheerful preparations. We knew that a Cape Verdes-type hurricane like Hugo that was still 2 - 3 days from the Lesser Antilles would probably kill a lot of people--perhaps even close to home, here in Florida.

In a letter I wrote that night to my soon-to-be-fiancee, Diane, in Michigan, I said: "Well, that dark enveloping death feeling is back again, much stronger than before. I know Hugo the hurricane will kill people and I feel it coming close to here".


Figure 2. GOES visible satellite image of Hurricane Hugo taken on September 13, 1989. Image credit: Google Earth rendition of the NOAA HURSAT data base.

Jeff Masters


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751. Tazmanian 01:31 GMT le 14 septembre 2009    
735. Weather456 6:25 PM PDT on September 13, 2009

Quoting Tazmanian:
mjo dos not mean any thing if you dont have the right wind shear you wont be see any thing with or with out the mjo



Taz what if wind shear decreases? Post some evidence or its just hunches ur posting


yes if wind shear can go down then we can see some in pop up but has has you can see with the A D and E storm there was a lot of wind shear
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752. BahaHurican 01:32 GMT le 14 septembre 2009    
456, WUmail.....
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753. reedzone 01:33 GMT le 14 septembre 2009    
We need to keep an eye on the East Coast of Florida, shear is low to marginal and something may be brewing there; however, north of it, wind shear is 30-60 knots. So any development will probably be halted once it gains latitude.
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754. gator23 01:34 GMT le 14 septembre 2009    
Quoting Tazmanian:
735. Weather456 6:25 PM PDT on September 13, 2009

Quoting Tazmanian:
mjo dos not mean any thing if you dont have the right wind shear you wont be see any thing with or with out the mjo



Taz what if wind shear decreases? Post some evidence or its just hunches ur posting


yes if wind shear can go down then we can see some in pop up but has has you can see with the A D and E storm there was a lot of wind shear

yes but you cant say the season is over. and those were Eastern Atlantic storms not Caribbean or Gulf storms you said 2 weeks ago that Erika was it and after that shear would "shut down" hurricane season.
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755. tornadodude 01:34 GMT le 14 septembre 2009    
Quoting Seasidecove:


Post #663 for Weather/Hurricane Toolbar.


thanks again, thats really cool
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756. Tazmanian 01:34 GMT le 14 septembre 2009    
Paloma was not in a EL Nino year you are forgeting that


all so wilma was a power one time will evere seen kind of storm i sure we wont be seeing that this year all so wilma was not in a EL Nino year
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757. HIEXPRESS 01:35 GMT le 14 septembre 2009    
Still 3 months (& 2 weeks on average), until Hell freezes over.
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758. tornadodude 01:35 GMT le 14 septembre 2009    
packers are winning 3 to 2
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759. HadesGodWyvern 01:35 GMT le 14 septembre 2009    
Hong Kong Observatory

Tropical Cyclone Bulletin

Here is the latest Tropical Cyclone Bulletin issued by the Hong Kong Observatory.

The Standby Signal No. 1 is in force.
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760. cyclonekid 01:36 GMT le 14 septembre 2009    
I'm off...Looks like Hopput is trying to gain an eye???

Blog Safe...
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761. gator23 01:37 GMT le 14 septembre 2009    
Quoting Tazmanian:
Paloma was not in a EL Nino year you are forgeting that


all so wilma was a power one time will evere seen kind of storm i sure we wont be seeing that this year all so wilma was not in a EL Nino year

ya and so was Andrew and that was an el nino year
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762. Motttt 01:37 GMT le 14 septembre 2009    
Quoting tornadodude:


thanks again, thats really cool

Thanks
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763. MrstormX 01:38 GMT le 14 septembre 2009    
Quoting hercj:

No. I remember with horror this storm. The windjammer Fantom was lost in this thing. Not a single forecaster at NHC had a clue as to where it was going. It was as bad as you could get. Cat 5 cyclone and not a clue as to where it would go.


Yes I guess it was a monster, second deadliest on record behind a hurricane from the 1700's.
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764. Cavin Rawlins 01:38 GMT le 14 septembre 2009    
Quoting gator23:

July of 2006


I was here in 06 and we had the downcasting but 2009 is much worst.

Persons predicted down to 4 named storms, lol at 1 point, seasonal forecast trended to the negative values.


But I see these posts as nothing more than impatience and judgments that have been damaged by past active seasons since the blogs started. Also, some just like annoying persons who like tracking tropical cyclones.
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766. tornadodude 01:39 GMT le 14 septembre 2009    
Quoting Motttt:

Thanks


its post #663
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767. gator23 01:40 GMT le 14 septembre 2009    
Quoting Weather456:


I was here in 06 and we had the downcasting but 2009 is much worst.

Persons predicted down to 4 named storms, lol at 1 point, seasonal forecast trended to the negative values.


But I see these posts as nothing more than impatience and judgments that have been damaged by past active seasons since the blog started.


i know but i was kidding i meant it hasnt ended since 2006
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768. Motttt 01:41 GMT le 14 septembre 2009    
got it, thanks much
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769. Cavin Rawlins 01:41 GMT le 14 septembre 2009    
Quoting gator23:


i know but i was kidding i meant it hasnt ended since 2006


lol, ohok
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770. tornadodude 01:41 GMT le 14 septembre 2009    
Quoting Motttt:
got it, thanks much


no problem, its a really neat toolbar
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771. Tazmanian 01:42 GMT le 14 septembre 2009    
761. gator23 6:37 PM PDT on September 13, 2009 H
Quoting Tazmanian:
Paloma was not in a EL Nino year you are forgeting that


all so wilma was a power one time will evere seen kind of storm i sure we wont be seeing that this year all so wilma was not in a EL Nino year


ya and so was Andrew and that was an el nino year


so true



i tell you guys well see how the next few weeks turn out and will see oh is right far???
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772. Yalahaman 01:42 GMT le 14 septembre 2009    
Quoting reedzone:
We need to keep an eye on the East Coast of Florida, shear is low to marginal and something may be brewing there; however, north of it, wind shear is 30-60 knots. So any development will probably be halted once it gains latitude.
You feel the development will be on the east side of Florida?
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773. GeoffreyWPB 01:42 GMT le 14 septembre 2009    
Quoting reedzone:
We need to keep an eye on the East Coast of Florida, shear is low to marginal and something may be brewing there; however, north of it, wind shear is 30-60 knots. So any development will probably be halted once it gains latitude.


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774. Cavin Rawlins 01:42 GMT le 14 septembre 2009    


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775. BahaHurican 01:43 GMT le 14 septembre 2009    
Quoting HadesGodWyvern:
Japan Meteorological Agency
Tropical Cyclone Advisory #15
TYPHOON CHOI-WAN (T0914)
9:00 AM JST September 14 2009
=========================================

SUBJECT: Category Three Typhoon near Marianas

At 0:00 AM UTC, Typhoon Choi-wan (965 hPa) located at 15.6N 148.3E has 10 minute sustained winds of 70 knots with gusts of 100 knots. The typhoon is reported as moving west slowly

RSMC Dvorak Intensity: T4.5

Storm-Force Winds
=================
70 NM from the center

Gale-Force Winds
================
240 NM from the center in east quadrant
180 NM from the center in west quadrant

Forecast and Intensity
=======================
24 HRS: 17.4N 146.3E - 85 knots (CAT 4/Very Strong Typhoon)
48 HRS: 19.5N 142.8E - 85 knots (CAT 4/Very Strong Typhoon)
72 HRS: 20.9N 139.3E - 85 knots (CAT 4/Very Strong Typhoon)
Picking up very nicely indeed. I think I agree with the earlier blogger who suggested this storm has the potential to run to the cat-5 status.....

Quoting cyclonekid:
I'm off...Looks like Hopput is trying to gain an eye???

Blog Safe...
doesn't look like it has much room to grow, though....

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776. TexasHurricane 01:43 GMT le 14 septembre 2009    
Hi btwntx08....
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777. gator23 01:44 GMT le 14 septembre 2009    
Quoting Tazmanian:
761. gator23 6:37 PM PDT on September 13, 2009 H
Quoting Tazmanian:
Paloma was not in a EL Nino year you are forgeting that


all so wilma was a power one time will evere seen kind of storm i sure we wont be seeing that this year all so wilma was not in a EL Nino year


ya and so was Andrew and that was an el nino year


so true



i tell you guys well see how the next few weeks turn out and will see oh is right far???

i give up you win. season over i will call the mayor and tell him the good news
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778. BahaHurican 01:45 GMT le 14 septembre 2009    
Hate to say it, u guys, but all the REALLY interesting action is happening in the WPac right now.... lol.... don't we have some bloggers in the Philipines?

456, on the downcasters of 2009, don't forget we had that super-late start to the season, which made a lot of people think we just wouldn't have time for much of a season.....
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779. reedzone 01:47 GMT le 14 septembre 2009    
Quoting Weather456:




I agree man, all indications, and charts show this was clearly a Subtropical Storm.
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781. gator23 01:48 GMT le 14 septembre 2009    
Quoting reedzone:


I agree man, all indications, and charts show this was clearly a Subtropical Storm.

somewhere Joe Bastardi is getting his wings
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782. BahaHurican 01:48 GMT le 14 septembre 2009    
Geof...

I still don't see much going on with that area for now. Maybe when it gets out a bit further from the coast? But not even much of a rotation, if u ask me. And I've been watching it all day, from above and below.... lol
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783. JLPR 01:50 GMT le 14 septembre 2009    
Taz check out 1997
two named storms in October with a strong El niño, so never say never when you are talking about weather
xD
crazier stuff has happened
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784. reedzone 01:50 GMT le 14 septembre 2009    
Quoting gator23:

somewhere Joe Bastardi is getting his wings


Maybe you should call StormW and Weather456 "Joe Bastardi" because they also believe the NE storm was Subtropical. All charts indicated warm core and convection was persistent UNTIL it went inland which indicated tropical characteristics. The Subtropical Storm weakens after making landfall in NJ.
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786. GeoffreyWPB 01:52 GMT le 14 septembre 2009    
Curious...does Bastardi appear on any other news network than FIX...I mean FOX?
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788. GeoffreyWPB 01:54 GMT le 14 septembre 2009    
Quoting BahaHurican:
Geof...

I still don't see much going on with that area for now. Maybe when it gets out a bit further from the coast? But not even much of a rotation, if u ask me. And I've been watching it all day, from above and below.... lol


Same here Baha...nothing going on now.
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789. JLPR 01:54 GMT le 14 septembre 2009    
Fred tried a comeback today but it looks like today wasn't the day xD

Lets keep watching ex-Freddy to see what it does

whoops wrong image xD
fixed now
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790. TexasHurricane 01:55 GMT le 14 septembre 2009    
Quoting iceman55:


Hi iceman...
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791. Cavin Rawlins 01:56 GMT le 14 septembre 2009    
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
Curious...does Bastardi appear on any other news network than FIX...I mean FOX?


LOL LOL
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794. BahaHurican 02:01 GMT le 14 septembre 2009    
Good night, everyone.
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795. GeoffreyWPB 02:02 GMT le 14 septembre 2009    
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797. JRRP 02:04 GMT le 14 septembre 2009    
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798. gator23 02:04 GMT le 14 septembre 2009    
m
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799. help4u 02:05 GMT le 14 septembre 2009    
high shear,just like the rest of the year.
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800. gator23 02:07 GMT le 14 septembre 2009    
Quoting help4u:
high shear,just like the rest of the year.

thats it your done bye
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801. GeoffreyWPB 02:07 GMT le 14 septembre 2009    
Thanks Gator...sorry everyone
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