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Hurricane Hunters to check out remains of Fred; 98L more organized
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 13:06 GMT le 19 septembre 2009 +1
A tropical disturbance (98L), is located midway between Africa and the Lesser Antilles Islands. This disturbance has shown a modest increase in heavy thunderstorm activity over the past day. This morning's QuikSCAT pass showed an elongated circulation, with top winds around 30 mph. Wind shear is low, 5 - 10 knots, and Sea Surface Temperatures are 28°C, which is about 2°C above the 26°C threshold needed to support a tropical cyclone. There is a large amount of dry air to the north and west of 98L, and this dry air is interfering with development.

Wind shear over 98L is expected to remain in the low range, 5 - 10 knots, through Sunday evening, according to the SHIPS model. This may allow the storm to organize into a tropical depression, assuming it can fight off the dry air that surrounds it. By Monday, the SHIPS model predicts shear will increase to the high range, 15 - 30 knots, so in is unlikely 98L will become anything stronger thatn a weak tropical storm over the coming 5-day period. The models predict that a strong trough of low pressure will turn 98L to the northwest and then north beginning on Monday, with the result that 98L misses the Lesser Antilles Islands by at least 500 miles. NHC is giving 98L a high (greater than 50%) chance of developing into a tropical depression by Monday. At this time, it does not appear that 98L will ever threaten any land areas.

Fred-ex
The remains of Hurricane Fred are still spinning away about 700 miles east of Florida. There has been a modest increase in heavy thunderstorm activity on the south side of Fred's circulation over the past day, but high wind shear and dry air have kept the thunderstorms from building over Fred's center. Wind shear is moderate, 15 - 20 knots, and there is substantial dry air surrounding ex-Fred on all sides. This morning's QuikSCAT pass showed top winds of 30 mph.

None of the computer models develop ex-Fred, and conditions for development are expected to remain marginal over the next three days, with wind shear of 15 - 20 knots and plenty of dry air around. Most of the models predict ex-Fred should move over Florida on Tuesday, but steering currents may weaken early next week, and ex-Fred could end up slowing down and turning northwest towards South Carolina. A hurricane hunter aircraft this afternoon was cancelled.


Figure 1. Morning visible satellite image of 98L and the remains of Hurricane Fred.

Twenty years ago today
On September 19, 1989, Hurricane Hugo moved away from Puerto Rico, and headed northwest at 15 mph. An upper-level low over Georgia, in combination with the steering currents imparted by the Azores-Bermuda High, were responsible for the northwesterly motion of the storm. Wind shear from strong upper-level winds continued to weaken the hurricane, and Hugo diminished to a Category 2 hurricane with 105 mph winds.


Figure 2. GOES visible satellite image of Hurricane Hugo taken on September 19, 1989. Wind shear had weakened Hugo to a Category 2 storm with 105 mph winds. Image credit: Google Earth rendition of the NOAA HURSAT data base.

I'll have an update this afternoon if there's any major developments to report.

Jeff Masters
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1251. JLPR 03:43 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
98L looking really sad before blackout =P
lets see how it looks after it


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1252. Patrap 03:43 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
FredEx 00 Z Statistical/Simple Models (CLIPER,BAMs,LBAR,other Statistical Models)

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1255. Seasidecove 03:44 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Quoting presslord:


Did you miss the whole Ike thing last year? Really...get some help...


or Hurricane Gustav?
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1256. Dakster 03:45 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
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Cater to the Users of WeatherUndergroud.
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1257. Grothar 03:45 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Quoting Seasidecove:
Since 1953, the following seasons have had no names retired from that season: 1953, 1956, 1958, 1962, 1968, 1971, 1973, 1976, 1978, 1981, 1982, 1984, 1986, 1987, 1993, 1994, 1997 and 2006.


Seasidecove, you and I must have attended the same school? Do you count 18 as well? If we must play by the rules, wouldn't one assume the answer should be correct when given?
For instance, when a question is posed on how long the "100 years War lasted, the correct answer would be 116 years, precisely. Shall we move on?
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1258. Patrap 03:45 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
FredEx 00 Z Dynamic Models (More sophisticated models)



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1259. Dakster 03:46 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
KerryinNOLA: LOL...

Every once in awhile I get my neighbors going by putting up the shutters and taking out gas cans, test firing the generator..
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1260. presslord 03:46 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Why don't you go over to bridge City, TX, and look up a friend of mine named Dicki Uzzle? He's the Fire Chief there...tell HIM Ike was not a major hurricane...
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1261. Dakster 03:48 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Quoting presslord:
Why don't you go over to bridge City, TX, and look up a friend of mine named Dicki Uzzle? He's the Fire Chief there...tell HIM Ike was not a major hurricane...


Knowing Fire Chiefs and with a name like Dicki Uzzle, I would like to see that meeting. Heck, I'd bring a video camera to that...and a floor scraper.
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1262. Patrap 03:48 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
1263. AllStar17 03:49 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Mail, Grothar.
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1264. reedzone 03:49 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Quoting Patrap:
FredEx 00 Z Dynamic Models (More sophisticated models)





OUCH! both of them make a direct hit in Palm Coast, what did I do to deserve that? lol
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1265. tornadofan 03:50 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
I see the tropics have really gotten quite. That thunderstorm named Fred has finally disappeared it seems. 98L will beg for DMAX to help it. If not, it may disappear like Thunderstorm Fred did today.
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1266. Grothar 03:51 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Quoting BahaHurican:
But my storm was more "fun" than yours, Grothar... John was cool as an example of how a recordsetting cat 5 hurricane can be one with an unretired name.... lol


I'll catch up someday Baha (: (did i do that correctly)or is it:)
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1267. presslord 03:51 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Dak...Dickie's kinda had a bad year...he'd mop the floor with that boy...
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1268. IKE 03:52 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Quoting Dakster:


Knowing Fire Chiefs and with a name like Dicki Uzzle, I would like to see that meeting. Heck, I'd bring a video camera to that...and a floor scraper.


LOL.
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1269. TexNowNM 03:52 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Grother, if you write a book, I would buy it!
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1270. Seasidecove 03:53 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Quoting Dakster:


Knowing Fire Chiefs and with a name like Dicki Uzzle, I would like to see that meeting. Heck, I'd bring a video camera to that...and a floor scraper.


ROFLMAO
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1271. Dakster 03:53 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Quoting presslord:
Dak...Dickie's kinda had a bad year...he'd mop the floor with that boy...


Why do you think I was bringing the floor scraper... It was to help the Chief clean up after the meeting. I've yet to meet a "weak" or "wimpy" fire chief and I've met quite a few - and in several states.
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1272. AllStar17 03:53 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Grothar, you have mail
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1273. Patrap 03:55 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
"Those who havent danced with a Major..know not what the "Ell" they say..and that's always entertaining here"..

But from their Lips to your ear's.Id listen carefully,those who wish calamity wholesale.

The winds die off and misery becomes your best friend,and that..is a reality check for those who haven't,tasted,nor smelled death,wholesale.





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1274. Seasidecove 03:55 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Dak...you too funny! LOL
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1275. presslord 03:55 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
yea Dak...a tired, angry Texas Fire Chief ain't to be trifled with...
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1276. presslord 03:57 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
or...ask Pat to hook you up with some Anahuac folks...tell THEM Ike wasn't major...
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1277. juslivn 03:57 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Quoting AllStar17:
Mail, Grothar.


Hey, cc me on that, I had 18. And it had 4 votes.(unless there was possibly a hanging chad in there somewhere)
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1278. Dakster 03:59 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Seasidecove:

I've got a wierd/warped sense of humor. I have to tone it down quite a bit for the blog.

I'm glad I made you laugh.

I can't do the detailed MET analysis that many users here do. (Dr. Masters included) - However, most of this is COMMON SENSE, although it appears at times to not be all that common.
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1279. Tazmanian 04:00 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
fred is dead


98L will follow
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1282. Dakster 04:02 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Press - yeah. I hear ya'. I've had to deal with a tired, recently woken up Fire Chief (or captain) and I noticed that they don't have a sense of humor in those moments.
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1283. presslord 04:02 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Pat is too much of a gentleman to engage in a battle of the wits with an unarmed opponent...,
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1284. Dakster 04:03 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Press... And to quote one of my favorite comedians. "They can't fix stupid". So we are stuck.
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1285. TampaSpin 04:03 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Quoting presslord:
you'll never go broke over estimating the stupidity of some people...


I should be rich if i stayed on here all Day Press.....LOL
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1286. BahaHurican 04:04 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Actually guys, he is right about Ike not being a major on landfall.... unless 95 kts suddenly became cat 3....
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1287. Grothar 04:05 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Quoting TexNowNM:
Grother, if you write a book, I would buy it!


What a surprising compliment, I thank you for that!
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1288. AllStar17 04:06 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
***9/19/2009 Tropics Question of the Day FINAL RESULTS***
A - 3
B - 6 (Majority of WU Bloggers = Final Answer)
C - 3 (Correct Answer)
D - 1

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1289. BahaHurican 04:07 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Geez... I just realized Ike wasn't even a major anymore when it hit Galveston.... Don't even want to begin to imagine how horrible things would have been if it had gotten back to the higher wind speeds it had before Cuba....
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1290. presslord 04:07 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Dak...if you're referring to Ron White...he is who I want to be when I grow up...
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1291. BahaHurican 04:08 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
So, Allstar, the green button is supposed to indicate the right answer?
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1292. AllStar17 04:08 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Quoting AllStar17:
***9/19/2009 Tropics Question of the Day FINAL RESULTS***
A - 3
B - 6 (Majority of WU Bloggers = Final Answer)
C - 3 (Correct Answer)
D - 1



Orange is the majority of what the WU Bloggers thought

Green is the correct answer
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1293. AllStar17 04:08 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Quoting BahaHurican:
So, Allstar, the green button is supposed to indicate the right answer?


Correct.
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1294. presslord 04:08 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
they need to redefine "Major"...
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1295. Dakster 04:09 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Quoting presslord:
Dak...if you're referring to Ron White...he is who I want to be when I grow up...


That would be the one... He is quite funny.
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1297. AllStar17 04:09 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Grothar, you have mail again
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1298. homelesswanderer 04:09 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Ike sucked.

ikeor
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1301. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 04:11 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Quoting JLPR:
98L looking really sad before blackout =P
lets see how it looks after it


cirulation decoupled out running its self
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