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98L and Fred-ex pose little threat
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 15:21 GMT le 20 septembre 2009 +1
A tropical disturbance (98L), is located midway between Africa and the Lesser Antilles Islands. This disturbance has lost most of its heavy thunderstorm activity over the past day. Last night's QuikSCAT pass showed an elongated circulation, with top winds around 30 mph. Wind shear is moderate, 10 - 15 knots, and Sea Surface Temperatures are 28°C, which is about 2°C above the 26°C threshold needed to support a tropical cyclone. There is a large amount of dry air to the north and west of 98L, and this dry air has been instrumental in disrupting development of 98L over the weekend.

Wind shear over 98L is expected to remain in the moderate range, 10 - 15 knots, through Tuesday evening, according to the SHIPS model. This may allow the storm to organize into a tropical depression, assuming it can fight off the dry air that surrounds it. Tuesday through Thursday, the SHIPS model predicts shear will increase to the high range, 20 - 25 knots, so it is unlikely 98L will become anything stronger than a weak tropical storm over the coming 5-day period. The models predict that a strong trough of low pressure will turn 98L to the northwest and then north beginning on Monday, with the result that 98L misses the Lesser Antilles Islands by at least 500 miles. NHC is giving 98L a medium (30 - 50%) chance of developing into a tropical depression by Tuesday. It does not appear that 98L will ever threaten any land areas. The GFDL and NOGAPS models develop 98L into a tropical storm; the other models do not.


Figure 1. Morning visible satellite image of Fred-ex (located at the tail end of a cold front draped over the Atlantic), and 98L.

Fred-ex
The remains of Hurricane Fred are still spinning away about 600 miles east of the Georgia-Florida border. Fred-ex's circulation has become ill-defined over the past day, and there has been no increase in heavy thunderstorm activity. High wind shear of 20 - 30 knots is affecting the storm, and there is also quite a bit of dry air interfering with development. The high wind shear and dry air will continue to affect Fred-ex over the next three days, as the storm moves west-northwest at 10 mph. Most of the models show the moisture from Fred-ex moving ashore between northern Florida and North Carolina Tuesday or Wednesday. None of the models develop Fred-ex, and I'm not expecting it to cause any flooding problems when it moves ashore.

Twenty years ago today
On September 20, 1989, Hurricane Hugo continued its steady northwest march at 15 mph towards the Southeast U.S., brushing the Bahama Islands along the way. Wind shear diminished, allowing the hurricane to intensify back to a major Category 3 hurricane with 115 mph winds. Hurricane watches and warnings had not yet been posted for the U.S. coast, but at noon on September 20, Mayor Riley of Charleston went on the air, telling residents of the city that Hugo was a killer. There was a very good chance that Hugo would be South Carolina's worst disaster this century, he said, with a storm surge up to fifteen feet high. Now, while the weather was good and the storm still far away, was the time to board up and get out.


Figure 2. AVHRR visible satellite image of Hurricane Hugo taken on September 20, 1989. Wind shear had diminished, allowing Hugo to intensify to a Category 3 storm with 115 mph winds. Image credit: Google Earth rendition of the NOAA HURSAT data base.

South Carolinans paid attention. Within an hour, residents jammed hardware stores and supermarkets. Traffic on roads away from the coast swelled as people scrambled to flee the arrival of the first major hurricane to strike South Carolina in thirty years--since Category 3 Hurricane Gracie of 1959 slammed into the coast south of Charleston.

At 6 pm, it became official: the Southeast U.S. coast from St. Augustine to Cape Hatteras had been placed under a hurricane watch, meaning that hurricane conditions could be expected within 36 hours. The torrent of evacuees leaving the coast swelled, reaching a million people in all.

In the U.S. Virgin Islands, the aftermath of Hugo became desperate as widespread looting erupted on St. Croix, forcing President Bush to send 1,100 troops. Wunderground member Mike Steers was there, and relates this story: "Surviving the aftermath was the real challenge. The lack of power, water, communications of any kind, and the crime and looting was the real test. After about a week of digging out of the remains of the house and neighborhood I was able to venture out on my motorcycle to see what had become of my job. On the way, I personally witnessed the looting and lawlessness. I even saw a National Guard truck backed up to what was a appliance store and the guardsmen were helping themselves to washers and dryers. Never mind that there was no power to run them. When I got to the seaplane ramp, I saw the total destruction that is depicted in one of the photos I sent. On my way home, there was a small local grocery store I had usually gone to, and I was going to stop in and see how the owners were doing. There was a band of youths in the process of carrying out everything that was not nailed down. From the back, out ran a rastaman with a machete saying he wanted my motorcycle. Needless to say, I gunned it and got back to my house as soon as possible. My neighbors and I set up our own armed 24-hour security checkpoint to protect ourselves. It was about a week later that the first of the giant C-5s flew over, sent by President Bush to start to restore order..."


Figure 3. Newspaper headline from the Virgin Islands Daily News after Hurricane Hugo, detailing the looting problems on St. Croix. Image scanned in by Mike Steers.

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153. Orcasystems 18:32 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Thank god.. my Tee time is in about 45 minutes.. have fun guys.
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154. aquak9 18:32 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Thanks for reading, Press. Like many others, I often feel like I am talking to myself. Sometimes, tho, the conversation seems more intelligent that way...

And that is why I asked, what this winter's set-up might be like.
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155. presslord 18:34 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Is 'gecko' the Spanish word for 'schizo'?
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156. Cavin Rawlins 18:36 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
For those who missed it. My country celebrated 26 years of independence which makes it the youngest/newest country in the Americas.

I celebrated this my including 2 blogs this weekend

History

Today

And a special blog

Photo Gallery



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157. stormwatcherCI 18:37 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Quoting WeatherStudent:
You're my boy, Taz. I love ya.
You got mail
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158. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 18:38 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Quoting aquak9:
Interesting thought, Taz. I believe it was the winter after Hugo, that we had such an ice and snowstorm for NorthEast Florida. Need to check the facts first...

Yep, we pretty much had to shut down the city.

Does this year's winter set-up compare to 1989?
i do beleive just as the cane season has been somewhat like the 1977 season that winter season 2009 we be the same as in 75 77 get the stats i havent had the time what ever 75 to 77 winter seasons were like expect the same for this year but as always things can and will change
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160. beell 18:41 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
The BAM may possibly be tracking a plume of moisture brought in to the central CONUS. In response to the strong W and SW flow around the base of a cut-offupper low forecast to set up shop for a few days.

Still some disagreement how far S and W it sits. Central Plains? 4-Corners? The farther S and W, the greater likelihood it could feed some moisture into this system and on out to the NE of the ULL.

Can't knock the BAM(s) too hard this year...
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161. beell 18:42 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
no not really weird low pressure dev and tracks up over that area in el nino winters all the time normally means powerful moisture laden systems for the season yet to come as it collides with colder air masses from the nw


yeah, what he said lol
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162. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 18:43 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Quoting hurricaneseason2006:


You are a stange young fella.
there are many strange and unusal indiviuals some come as many but are only one
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163. aquak9 18:43 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Ahhh..a voice of reason. Hi Beell...nice to see you here.
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164. tkeith 18:44 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Quoting aquak9:
Ahhh..a voice of reason. Hi Beell...nice to see you here.
yep
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165. stormwatcherCI 18:44 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
there are many strange and unusal indiviuals some come as many but are only one
Agreed.
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166. stormwatcherCI 18:45 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Quoting presslord:
Is 'gecko' the Spanish word for 'schizo'?
This is one of the better quotes of the day. LOL
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167. tropicofcancer 18:45 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Quoting hurricaneseason2006:


You are a stange young fella.


I belief Pat made him an offer he couldn't refuse.
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168. Hurricanejer95 18:46 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Note that I will not post Jeanne here please view it and comment at
My blog
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169. Tazmanian 18:46 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Quoting BenBIogger:


Are you Taz?



lol
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172. beell 18:47 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
don't let this calm cool exterior fool you.
Any second...i could POP! Any second...yup...

Hey, aq/tk!
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173. Grothar 18:47 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Quoting aquak9:
Thanks for reading, Press. Like many others, I often feel like I am talking to myself. Sometimes, tho, the conversation seems more intelligent that way...

And that is why I asked, what this winter's set-up might be like.


Every see the movie "Groundhog Day" Cold with intermittent snow and the same tomorrow. That is unless you live in "sunny South Florida"

There are some interesting thoughts on the winter this year.
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175. stormwatcherCI 18:49 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Quoting WeatherStudent:
Thank you, StormWatch.
No problem.
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176. jurakantaino 18:51 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Quoting Weather456:
For those who missed it. My country celebrated 26 years of independence which makes it the youngest/newest country in the Americas.

I celebrated this my including 2 blogs this weekend

History

Today

And a special blog

Photo Gallery



Congratulations on your Independence DAY CELEBRATIONS, Saint Kitts and Nevis set a great example for many of us in the caribbean that are still a colony of a larger metropoly. IN my case, Puerto Rico, we still a colony of the most formidable super power that the world have ever known, after the Roman empire, the United States of America. I dream someday to join all the sister nations of the Caribbean and that the largest of the lesser antilles and the smallest of the larger antilles find redemption and freedom as well. Congratulations again !!!
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177. earthlydragonfly 18:52 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Surely you cant be serious???? Yes Im serious... and quit calling me Sherly
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178. presslord 18:53 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
OK...I'm confused...and I'm bein' serious here...but...

I thought Puerto Rico wanted US statehood, not independence...
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179. Grothar 18:54 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Quoting earthlydragonfly:
Surely you cant be serious???? Yes Im serious... and quit calling me Sherly


Airplane??
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180. earthlydragonfly 18:56 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Quoting presslord:
OK...I'm confused...and I'm bein' serious here...but...

I thought Puerto Rico wanted US statehood, not independence...


I went down there a couple of years ago and asked some people how they felt.. Unofficial survey of about 10 people and it was split down the middle.. So I think everyone is confused.. Not sure I would want to be a state of the US right now either.
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181. tornadodude 18:56 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Quoting Grothar:


Airplane??


yes, hilarious movie
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182. earthlydragonfly 18:56 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Quoting Grothar:


Airplane??


You got it... Well done! LOL
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183. JLPR 18:56 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Quoting jurakantaino:
Congratulations on your Independence DAY CELEBRATIONS, Saint Kitts and Nevis set a great example for many of us in the caribbean that are still a colony of a larger metropoly. IN my case, Puerto Rico, we still a colony of the most formidable super power that the world have ever known, after the Roman empire, the United States of America. I dream someday to join all the sister nations of the Caribbean and that the largest of the lesser antilles and the smallest of the larger antilles find redemption and freedom as well. Congratulations again !!!


Make that the smaller of the Greater Antilles only lol
we aren't part of the Lesser Antilles =P
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184. earthlydragonfly 18:57 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Quoting earthlydragonfly:


You got it... Well done! LOL


Ive got more but dont think the good Doc would appreciate the other ones.... So Ill keep it clean
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185. JLPR 18:58 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Quoting presslord:
OK...I'm confused...and I'm bein' serious here...but...

I thought Puerto Rico wanted US statehood, not independence...


nope, statehood has never officially won
Puerto Rico always chooses a Free Association to the US for some reason :|
In other words to remain a Colony, ahh! who understands people lol
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186. PortABeachBum 18:59 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Quoting WeatherStudent:



Flagged, banned, and reported. He terminado contigo de una buena vez por todas, infeliz.
Bye, bye to you too!
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187. aquak9 18:59 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
thanks grothar, and keeper as well.

By the way, Keeper, Miami had snow in 1977.
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188. JLPR 19:01 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Its so quiet, that its creepy =P
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189. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 19:03 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Quoting presslord:
OK...I'm confused...and I'm bein' serious here...but...

I thought Puerto Rico wanted US statehood, not independence...
isn't it dependence
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190. CybrTeddy 19:04 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Quoting Patrap:
NASA Flight 911 is now Airborne again


Good to see Discovery airborne again (although on a 747)
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193. tornadofan 19:07 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Quoting JLPR:
Its so quiet, that its creepy =P


Yes, but I'm enjoying the lack of wishcasting today. Talk of winter and independence days is easy on the eyes reading the blog today.
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194. Grothar 19:08 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Quoting aquak9:
thanks grothar, and keeper as well.

By the way, Keeper, Miami had snow in 1977.


I was here! In North Miami at the time. It was enough to stick on the grass. All the neighbors went outside and tried to make snowballs. I think the largest they got was enough to make a one frozen margarita!!!!
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195. juslivn 19:09 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Quoting Grothar:


Every see the movie "Groundhog Day" Cold with intermittent snow and the same tomorrow. That is unless you live in "sunny South Florida"

There are some interesting thoughts on the winter this year.


Since it was brought up, I have to say it...I live very close to where Groundhogs day was filmed. The B & B, square, and gazebo are in Woodstock, IL :)
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196. aquak9 19:12 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
you were there, grothar? imagining we're close to the same age, then...are you still in Miami area?

Miami Herald used the largest size font on their headline, normally saved for declarations of war.

I wouldn't mind a LITTLE snow, as long as I'm on the same side of the river I live on.
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197. jurakantaino 19:14 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Quoting presslord:
OK...I'm confused...and I'm bein' serious here...but...

I thought Puerto Rico wanted US statehood, not independence...
The island is divided,half and half those that want autonomy and others that one independence,and the those that want statehood. But after 113 years under the american rule, we haven't had the opportunity to decide by a congressional law,what will be our destiny.
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198. Grothar 19:14 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Quoting juslivn:


Since it was brought up, I have to say it...I live very close to where Groundhogs day was filmed. The B & B, square, and gazebo are in Woodstock, IL :)


Didn't know that, interesting. I figured it had to be some place nice. I don't remember Punxsutawney being that picturesue. No offense to our PA friends here!
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200. jurakantaino 19:15 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Quoting JLPR:


Make that the smaller of the Greater Antilles only lol
we aren't part of the Lesser Antilles =P
it depends on the optical, if you look at Puerto within the larger antilles we are the smallest among the lesser we are the larger,that's a personal view, not the oficial.
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201. CosmicEvents 19:15 GMT le 20 septembre 2009    
Quoting aquak9:
you were there, grothar? imagining we're close to the same age, then...are you still in Miami area?

Miami Herald used the largest size font on their headline, normally saved for declarations of war.

I wouldn't mind a LITTLE snow, as long as I'm on the same side of the river I live on.

They have a font size even larger that they're saving for the day Fidel passes.
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btw....the really teeny energy center from Fred-ex lives on at 25N, 73W. Viva Fred!!!
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