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Embattled UK climate scientist steps down
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 15:53 GMT le 03 décembre 2009 +3
The embattled director of the University of East Anglia's Climate Research Unit (CRU), Dr. Phil Jones, announced that he will be temporarily standing aside as director. An independent review of his conduct in light of the emails illegally hacked from his computers last month is in progress. In a press release, Professor Jones said: "What is most important is that CRU continues its world leading research with as little interruption and diversion as possible. After a good deal of consideration I have decided that the best way to achieve this is by stepping aside from the Director's role during the course of the independent review and am grateful to the University for agreeing to this. The Review process will have my full support".

The University and the police are investigating the break-in, and it is currently unknown if this was the act of an insider or an external break-in. I think it is highly unlikely this was the work of an insider in a whistle-blower type of action, since a computer at realclimate.org was hacked into the same week (via a computer in Turkey), and the criminal attempted to upload the emails stolen from CRU to the realclimate.org server. This is not the sort of action a whistleblower would do. Dr. Gavin Schmidt of realclimate.org said in a comment yesterday that the CRU break-in appeared to have been done from the outside, into a backup mail server. It is unlikely the hacker acted alone, since hackers aren't typically intimately familiar with the details of the climate change science debate. The emails and code stolen were selectively culled by someone who appeared to have considerable expertise in climate science.

What did Dr. Jones do wrong?
So, what did Dr. Jones do wrong? For starters, he should have confronted the allegations raised by his critics immediately and talked candidly to the press about some of the specific accusations being made. For example, one of the emails contained the statement that he would like to "redefine what the peer-reviewed literature is" to exclude two questionable papers from the IPCC report. Well, that's not something a good scientist should seriously advocate, and is an impossibility, in any case. No one can redefine the peer-reviewed literature, since the rules for this are well-established an not subject to change. When I read the comment in the context it was made, it reads as a joke. There is no discussion in the hacked emails about how to go about redefining the peer-reviewed literature. In the end, the two papers Jones was referring to with this comment, McKitrick and Michaels (2004) and Kalnay and Cai (2003), ended up being cited and discussed in Chapter 2 of the IPCC AR4 report. Those intent on discrediting the science of human-caused global warming are spinning the comment differently, creating a controversy about something that is impossible to do, and was not being seriously suggested. Jones should have immediately spoken up to quash the hype on this comment.

The "trick" to "hide the decline"
Another area of concern is over a graph Dr. Jones helped construct in 1999 showing the "hockey stick" of Earth's surface temperature going back 1,000 years. This graph combined instrumental measurements made since the 1800s with older paleoclimate data (including data from tree rings) to show a continuous 1,000 year record of Earth's temperatures. The paleoclimate data after 1960 show a bogus decline in Earth's temperatures that does not agree with what modern thermometers have been measuring, due to a well-known variation in tree ring thickness as a function of time, referred to as "the decline". Thus, Jones elected to toss out the bogus paleoclimate data (using a "trick" to "hide the decline") rather than present it in the graph. The graph was not properly labeled to show this was done, so viewers of the graph would have had needed to be familiar with a 1998 paper published in Nature or the 1999 paper referenced in the caption on the graph, which explained this well-known data issue. The graph that Jones used his "trick" on was put into a 1999 report called the "WMO Statement on the Status of the Global Climate". The report was given to policy makers, but was never published in a peer-reviewed scientific journal. No reputable climate scientist believes that the paleoclimate data since 1960 is of higher quality than the instrumental record (this is discussed in detail in Chapter 6 of the 2007 IPCC report). In order to make the "hokey stick" graph less confusing, removing "the decline" from the tree ring data is a reasonable thing to do--provided one labels the graph properly. The graph was not properly labeled. Does Jones' "trick" and failure to properly label the graph constitute data falsification, or was it merely sloppy science? The hacked emails contain no suggestions that the "trick" was done to intentionally fool people, and the "trick" never appeared in the peer-reviewed scientific literature, including the IPCC reports. In Dr. Jones' words, "This is well-known and is called the "decline" or "divergence". The use of the term "hiding the decline" was in an email written in haste. CRU has not sought to hide the decline. Indeed, CRU has published a number of articles that both illustrate, and discuss the implications of, this recent tree-ring decline, including the article that is listed in the legend of the WMO Statement figure".




Figure 1. The WMO 1999 "hockey stick" figure (top) with climate reconstructions and instrumental temperatures merged, and a version (bottom) with the climate reconstructions (coloured) and instrumental temperatures (annual & summer in black) shown separately. Note "the decline" in the temperature obtained from tree ring data (green curve) in the bottom curve. Image credit: University of East Anglia.

Global warming contrarians are spinning the "trick" as reason to discredit the "hockey stick", claiming that the data was falsified to hide the fact that tree rings were telling the real story. Since the hockey stick was falsified, some claim, the entire science behind human-caused global warming needs to be questioned. This is plain ludicrous. The graph was never published in a scientific journal. Several updated versions of the "hockey stick" graph have been published in the ten years since the disputed graph was produced, and the "hockey stick" can be reproduced in essentially the same form excluding the controversial tree rings, using other paleoclimate data such as boreholes (See Mann et al., 2008, Figure 2). Furthermore, the peer-reviewed science supporting human-caused global warming is not based solely upon the "hockey stick" and the CRU data used for the last 150 years of the hockey stick graph. There are three separate data sets of global temperatures maintained by NASA, the CRU, and NOAA's National Climatic Data Center, that all show essentially the same global warming. We also have evidence from nature herself in the form of plants and animals expanding their ranges poleward, the record loss of Arctic sea ice in 2007 and record loss of multi-year Arctic sea ice this year, the shrinking of mountain glaciers, reductions in the length of freeze season in many Northern Hemisphere lakes and rivers, the shifting of spring blooms earlier in most regions of the world, and on and on and on. Again, Jones should have spoken up immediately to kill the ridiculous hype being pushed by global warming contrarians about the importance of a 10-year old graph that is now scientifically irrelevant, and was never published.


Figure 2. The "hockey stick" of global temperature anomalies since 300 A.D., as published in a 2008 paper in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences by Mann et al.. Even if one excludes tree rings (blue curve), the hockey stick looks the same.

Resistance to releasing data to other researchers
The hacked emails also show that Dr. Jones resisted releasing his data to contrarians and urged others to delete emails regarding Freedom Of Information (FOI) related requests. Many countries protect their weather data under an international agreement called World Meteorological Organization Resolution 40, which prohibits the data from being made public (this is why wunderground can't give out the UKMET model forecasts on our web site, for example). About 5% of the CRU data fell in that category, making release illegal. However, deleting emails related to FOI requests is inadvisable and implies one has something to hide. The investigation should certainly pursue the issue of whether Dr. Jones properly handled the requests to turn over his data to outside researchers. Ideally, weather data documenting Earth's climate history should be free to everyone on the planet (I am not a big fan of WMO Resolution 40). However, another aspect to this issue is the time it takes for the scientists involved to prepare the data for release. Large, complicated data sets require extensive documentation and access to related computer codes in order to process them, and making the data available to every amateur investigator interested in the data puts an unfair burden on the scientists who maintain the data sets. In particular, an amateur climate science investigator named Stephen McIntyre, who runs the web site Climate Audit, has created such an issue. McIntyre, a retired mining executive and an investor, is not a professional scientist, but has been successful identifying several technical errors made in the published literature. He has also generated a huge amount of misleading and incorrect information over the years, and has done a tremendous amount of damage to the understanding of climate science. McIntyre is intent on discrediting the science of human-caused global warming--presumably for ideological reasons, since he has no obvious ties to the fossil fuel industry--and has generated a large number of Freedom of Information requests to further his cause. One of the hacked emails, from Dr. Ben Santer, complained that McIntyre's FOI requests were intrusive and unreasonable with no scientific justification or explanation given, and appeared to be a calculated strategy to divert Santer's attention and focus away from research. It's worth reading Santer's reaction to the hacked email affair to learn more. Given such tactics by McIntyre, Dr. Jones' resistance to FOI requests from McIntyre is understandable, but appears to have been poorly handled.

The science of human-caused global warming remains unaffected
None of the hacked emails reveal any conspiracy to publish falsified or "fudged" material in the peer-reviewed scientific literature. The science of human-caused global warming will require no revision as a result of this affair. Baseless accusations of fraud, data manipulation, and conspiracy against climate change scientists stemming from the hacked emails are being massively hyped by the Manufactured Doubt industry in an effort to discredit climate scientists, since no flaw with the science can be found. Most of the public is in no position to distinguish good science from bad, so if you can create doubt, uncertainty, and confusion, you can win--or at least buy time, lots of it. The hacked email affair is all about politics, not science. Dr. Jones is an excellent scientist, but unfortunately was over-matched as a politician. It was hardly a fair fight--one scientist against the political might of the mightiest PR campaign against science ever waged, armed with some selectively culled stolen emails taken out of context.

Other posts in this series
The Manufactured Doubt industry and the hacked email controversy
Is more CO2 beneficial for Earth's ecosystems?

Next post
I'm working on a post called, "Don't shoot the messenger", and plan to run this Sunday or Monday.

Our Climate Change expert, Dr. Ricky Rood, will be in Copenhagen for Monday's start to the crucial COP15 climate change treaty negotiations. Be sure to tune into his blog for updates on the talks. Wunderground has provided financial support for several University of Michigan students to attend the talks, and I may be featuring portions of their blogs over the coming weeks.

Jeff Masters
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551. Bordonaro 01:56 GMT le 04 décembre 2009    
Quoting tornadodude:


boo! (: well enjoy it while you have it!


Well, the DFW area looks like a scattered snow flurry event. SE TX is gonna get it "GOOOOOODDD"
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552. tornadodude 01:59 GMT le 04 décembre 2009    
Quoting Bordonaro:


Well, the DFW area looks like a scattered snow flurry event. SE TX is gonna get it "GOOOOOODDD"


yeah buddy! haha I'm looking at my forecast for next week, and it looks like we might get something monday night into tuesday. The warmest the temperature is supposed to get through at least next thursday is 37 :)
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553. Patrap 01:59 GMT le 04 décembre 2009    
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554. weatherman874 02:02 GMT le 04 décembre 2009    
Quoting tornadodude:


totally not fair! we havent had any snow this year in Indiana, but, in Texas, Louisiana, and Mississippi, you guys get snow! heck, Dallas has had more snow than I have had this year! It's so bizarre.


PLEASE New Orleans!
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555. tornadodude 02:03 GMT le 04 décembre 2009    
Alright, I'll be back on in a little while. I'm going to try to work on a new blog entry about the up-coming winter weather for the south.

laterz :P
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556. weatherman874 02:04 GMT le 04 décembre 2009    
Quoting Patrap:
00Z GFS


Pat were lookin pretty good
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557. Patrap 02:09 GMT le 04 décembre 2009    
Sure are. I think the Models can be close,,but like last year,some ones gonna get dumped on where that core Band goes.
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558. Patrap 02:10 GMT le 04 décembre 2009    
Winds picking up here..
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559. alaina1085 02:11 GMT le 04 décembre 2009    
Quoting Patrap:
Winds picking up here..

Pat last year here in Ascension Parish we got dumped on. I think we had 4-5 in of snow. Reading our local news they are saying above I-12 is where its at. We are about 15 miles below... we shall see.
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560. swampliliy 02:13 GMT le 04 décembre 2009    
Quoting Bordonaro:
The latest weather radar from NWS Ft Worth, TX show precipitation to our NW. The precipitation to our NW is Virga, precip falling from the clouds and evaporating before reaching the ground.



Note to self:
clean monitor screen- when I first read your quote, Bordonaro, I thought you said- Viagra was falling as precipitation...
still laughing at me :)
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561. Patrap 02:14 GMT le 04 décembre 2009    
Yeah,..the Trick is How it all comes together in the Mid Levels and all that jazz.

Were gonna set up shop in Hammond then use the radar to punch a core Band as we see it. I wanna get this one on video.

NOLA Roux my German Shepherd is 6mths now. Shes gonna Flip.

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562. Bordonaro 02:15 GMT le 04 décembre 2009    
Quoting tornadodude:


yeah buddy! haha I'm looking at my forecast for next week, and it looks like we might get something monday night into tuesday. The warmest the temperature is supposed to get through at least next thursday is 37 :)


12-2-09 at 8:30AM CST, Arlington, TEXAS

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563. alaina1085 02:16 GMT le 04 décembre 2009    
Quoting Patrap:
Yeah,..the Trick is How it all comes together in the Mid Levels and all that jazz.

Were gonna set up shop in Hammond then use the radar to punch a core Band as we see it. I wanna get this on on video.

NOLA Roux my German Shepherd is 6mths now. Shes gonna Flip.



Hammond seems like a good choice! And I remember pictures of Nola Roux you posted! Hehe.. she will definately have a field day in the snow! Dont forget the pics, I would love to see that.
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564. tornadodude 02:16 GMT le 04 décembre 2009    
Quoting Bordonaro:


12-2-09 at 8:30AM CST, Arlington, TEXAS



dang, thats more than we in Indiana have had haha
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565. alaina1085 02:17 GMT le 04 décembre 2009    
Quoting Bordonaro:


12-2-09 at 8:30AM CST, Arlington, TEXAS


Ahhh, FUN! Im totally jelous.
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566. Bordonaro 02:18 GMT le 04 décembre 2009    
Quoting swampliliy:


Note to self:
clean monitor screen- when I first read your quote, Bordonaro, I thought you said- Viagra was falling as precipitation...
still laughing at me :)


V-I-R-G-A, is precipitation that falls from the cloud base and evaporates before reaching the ground.

V-I-A-G-R-A, is a prescription medication to help with male erectile dysfunction.

LMAO :0)
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567. AstroHurricane001 02:19 GMT le 04 décembre 2009    
GFS 18z displaces the Bermuda high around 204h, destroys it around 324h, and low pressure replaces all but the southeastern north Atlantic and the far Northeastern European Atlantic (where there's actually supposed to be low pressure) around 360h!
Link
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568. louisianaboy444 02:19 GMT le 04 décembre 2009    
hey all! Welcome to an El Nino Winter...i'm in Monroe right now preparing for whatever gets thrown at us it looks like we will be okay as most of the nasty stuff should stay to our south but getting down to 25 degrees tomorrow night we are preparing for pipe busting temps
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569. Bordonaro 02:19 GMT le 04 décembre 2009    
Quoting tornadodude:


dang, thats more than we in Indiana have had haha


Believe me, I am sure that you'll have at least a 24-36IN of snow between now and Early April!!
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570. tornadodude 02:21 GMT le 04 décembre 2009    
well here is a rough draft of my new blog, it basically talks briefly about what various areas should expect to see for snowfall totals. it also has different winter storm watches on it, I believe I covered most areas, feel free to add to it in the comment section :P

(it's nothing fancy by any means)
my blog
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571. Bordonaro 02:21 GMT le 04 décembre 2009    
Quoting alaina1085:

Ahhh, FUN! Im totally jelous.


If you live in SE TX, LA, MS, AL and even parts of the FL Panhandle, you may see several inches of those white, fluffy, flakes, flying!
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572. AstroHurricane001 02:22 GMT le 04 décembre 2009    
Quoting AstroHurricane001:
GFS 18z displaces the Bermuda high around 204h, destroys it around 324h, and low pressure replaces all but the southeastern north Atlantic and the far Northeastern European Atlantic (where there's actually supposed to be low pressure) around 360h!
Link


That, I think, spells a shift in global weather patterns and quasi-stationary lows and highs. Almost all of North America is covered by a cold Arctic high pressure system enforced by the Bermuda Low at the end of that model run. Ocean currents could reverse just as they have been changing daily for the past few days since Typhoon Nida reached cat. 5. This is likely going to enhance El Nino, which is not expected to peak until February.
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573. alaina1085 02:22 GMT le 04 décembre 2009    
Quoting Bordonaro:


If you live in SE TX, LA, MS, AL and even parts of the FL Panhandle, you may see several inches of those white, fluffy, flakes, flying!


Im in SELA. Ascension parish. But I think I may be a bit to south for the snow to stick. Our low is gonna be right at 32, so idk.
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574. louisianaboy444 02:23 GMT le 04 décembre 2009    
If you live in SE TX, LA, MS, AL and even parts of the FL Panhandle, you may see several inches of those white, fluffy, flakes, flying!

Any Accumlations should be limited to the coast we are forecasted to only get Light snow and flurries here in Monroe and the I-20 Corrider
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575. theFatherofNature 02:23 GMT le 04 décembre 2009    
576. louisianaboy444 02:25 GMT le 04 décembre 2009    
Quoting alaina1085:


Im in SELA. Ascension parish. But I think I may be a bit to south for the snow to stick. Our low is gonna be right at 32, so idk.


The Ground is too warm for the snow to stick it should melt rather quickly small accumlations might be possible on buildings and bridges
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577. alaina1085 02:25 GMT le 04 décembre 2009    
Quoting louisianaboy444:


The Ground is too warm for the snow to stick it should melt rather quickly small accumlations might be possible on buildings and bridges

Fine Ill make a snow man outta the snow on my car! :p
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578. Patrap 02:27 GMT le 04 décembre 2009    
Quoting alaina1085:


Hammond seems like a good choice! And I remember pictures of Nola Roux you posted! Hehe.. she will definately have a field day in the snow! Dont forget the pics, I would love to see that.


Nola Roux is Updating her Facebook Page right now and will upload a new pic of herself here
in few she just Barked.

Woof!
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579. tornadodude 02:27 GMT le 04 décembre 2009    
Quoting Bordonaro:


Believe me, I am sure that you'll have at least a 24-36IN of snow between now and Early April!!


haha yeah, and to go with that, below zero temperatures and negative 30 windchills! :PP
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580. Bordonaro 02:29 GMT le 04 décembre 2009    
Quoting louisianaboy444:


The Ground is too warm for the snow to stick it should melt rather quickly small accumlations might be possible on buildings and bridges


It may snow hard enough to cover cars, roof tops and grassy areas. The lil bit of snow we had yesterday stuck on those surfaces, and it was near 71F last weekend in Arlington, TX
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581. xcool 02:30 GMT le 04 décembre 2009    
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582. Bordonaro 02:31 GMT le 04 décembre 2009    
Quoting tornadodude:


haha yeah, and to go with that, below zero temperatures and negative 30 windchills! :PP


Gotta LOVE IT! Hey, there is plenty of warmth here in TX, come on down!
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583. Patrap 02:32 GMT le 04 décembre 2009    
.."I dont know what "Snow" is,but my Keeper,Patrap is running around grabbing Gloves, funny hats and scarfs and Galoshes for this Snow trip Tomorrow".

Is snow Edible I wonder..?

Oh,..and I do Lurk some ya know?



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584. tornadodude 02:33 GMT le 04 décembre 2009    
Quoting Bordonaro:


Gotta LOVE IT! Hey, there is plenty of warmth here in TX, come on down!


haha just might have to! My grandparents live in Grand Prairie
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585. tornadodude 02:33 GMT le 04 décembre 2009    
Quoting Patrap:
.."I dont know what "Snow" is,but my Keeper,Patrap is running around grabbing Gloves, funny hats and scarfs and Galoshes for this Snow trip Tomorrow".

Is snow Edible I wonder..?

Oh,..and I do Lurk some ya know?







LOL that is great!
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586. alaina1085 02:34 GMT le 04 décembre 2009    
OMG hahaha!! I love it Pat. She's beautiful.
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587. tornadodude 02:35 GMT le 04 décembre 2009    
Lafayette, Purdue University Airport
Lat: 40.43 Lon: -86.93 Elev: 623
Last Update on Dec 3, 8:54 pm EST

Fair

32 °F
(0 °C)
Humidity: 56 %
Wind Speed: W 13 MPH
Barometer: 30.10" (1019.6 mb)
Dewpoint: 18 °F (-8 °C)
Wind Chill: 23 °F (-5 °C)
Visibility: 10.00 mi.
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588. Bordonaro 02:36 GMT le 04 décembre 2009    
Lubbock, TX NWS Weather Radar

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589. xcool 02:37 GMT le 04 décembre 2009    
Patrap lmao
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590. Bordonaro 02:39 GMT le 04 décembre 2009    
Quoting Patrap:
.."I dont know what "Snow" is,but my Keeper,Patrap is running around grabbing Gloves, funny hats and scarfs and Galoshes for this Snow trip Tomorrow".

Is snow Edible I wonder..?

Oh,..and I do Lurk some ya know?







That is one beautiful dog! She looks pretty cool with your reading glasses on! Don't feel bad, I am so far-sighted now, I've got to hold everything 3FT from my eyes to read it :0).
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591. Bordonaro 02:41 GMT le 04 décembre 2009    
NWS Ft Worth, TX Weather Radar

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592. alaina1085 02:46 GMT le 04 décembre 2009    
Quoting Bordonaro:
NWS Ft Worth, TX Weather Radar



So I'm guessing the blue is snow huh? ;)
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593. tornadodude 02:53 GMT le 04 décembre 2009    
So I've been reading my forecast discussion, and the ones for my surrounding area, and we might get an inch on sunday night, then on tuesday and wednesday next week, a low pressure system is supposed to track across my area and bring me some significant snow, definitely looking forward to that!

can someone post a gfs model that goes that far out?

thanks!
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594. 1900hurricane 02:55 GMT le 04 décembre 2009    
Quoting tornadodude:
So I've been reading my forecast discussion, and the ones for my surrounding area, and we might get an inch on sunday night, then on tuesday and wednesday next week, a low pressure system is supposed to track across my area and bring me some significant snow, definitely looking forward to that!

can someone post a gfs model that goes that far out?

thanks!

You could always look yourself? :P
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595. AstroHurricane001 02:58 GMT le 04 décembre 2009    
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596. atmoaggie 02:58 GMT le 04 décembre 2009    
Saw something just like this in Slidell today at about 5 pm. A hole-punch cloud...really odd...

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597. tornadodude 02:59 GMT le 04 décembre 2009    
Quoting 1900hurricane:

You could always look yourself? :P


I was too busy hanging Christmas lights in my dorm :) thanks!
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598. beell 03:00 GMT le 04 décembre 2009    
SPC now with 5 tornado reports for yesterday.
The early one in FL and 4 in GA.
2 injuries.

SPC Storm Reports Wedneday, 12/02/09
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599. Patrap 03:00 GMT le 04 décembre 2009    
Quoting atmoaggie:
Saw something just like this Slidell today at about 5 pm. A hole-punch cloud...really odd...



They mentioned it was over the NWS Office today.

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Area forecast discussion
National Weather Service New Orleans la
655 PM CST Thursday Dec 3 2009


Update...
sounding discussion...


The atmosphere remains dry with northerly winds up to 5000 feet
shifting to southwesterly aloft. A few inversions are present
above 900 mb along with a large area of dry air in the middle levels.
A broken deck of cirrocumulus clouds were present at launch along
with a hole punch cloud above the office.


&&


Previous discussion... /issued 354 PM CST Thursday Dec 3 2009/


Short term...


A snow event for portions of southeast Louisiana and southern
Mississippi is looking more likely for Friday night. As a
result...have decided to issue a winter weather watch for most of
southeast Louisiana north of the I-12 corridor. This watch also
extends into southern Mississippi. A Winter Weather Advisory has
been posted for areas along the Mississippi coast...due to a bit
warmer surface temperature and later start time for the snow.
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600. tornadodude 03:03 GMT le 04 décembre 2009    
My forecast discussion:
IN THE EXTENDED...FOCUS CONTINUES TO BE ON POTENTIAL SIGNIFICANT
STORM FOR TUESDAY-WEDNESDAY.
AFTER A QUIET SUNDAY...WEAK FRONT WILL
MOVE ACROSS THE REGION EARLY MONDAY. HAVE INTRODUCED 20 POPS FOR
ENTIRE FORECAST AREA LATE SUNDAY NIGHT AND EARLY MONDAY AS BOUNDARY
PASSES THROUGH. 12Z OP GFS/15Z SREF BOTH INDICATE POTENTIAL FOR A
LIGHT RAIN/SNOW MIX WITH POSSIBLY ENOUGH COLD AIR FOR MAINLY SNOW
NORTH OF I-70. FOCUS THEN TURNS TO LOW PRESSURE DEVELOPING EAST OF
THE ROCKIES EARLY TUESDAY...AND PROGRESSING QUICKLY INTO THE OHIO
VALLEY TUESDAY NIGHT/WEDNESDAY. MAJORITY OF EXTENDED MODELS
INDICATING LOW PRESSURE WILL AFFECT REGION DURING THE TIME PERIOD
BUT AS IS TO BE EXPECTED AT FIVE TO SIX DAYS OUT...DIFFER ON THE
DETAILS FROM RUN TO RUN AND MODEL TO MODEL. 00Z ECMWF/12Z OP GFS
BOTH FAVORING A LESS AMPLIFIED STORM TRACK THROUGH THE OHIO/
TENNESSEE VALLEYS. THIS TRACK WOULD FAVOR COLDER WEATHER AND
PRECIPITATION TRANSITIONING FROM A WINTRY MIX TO SNOW FROM SOUTH TO
NORTH. 12Z GFS ENSEMBLE MEAN FAVORING A TRACK DIRECTLY THROUGH
CENTRAL INDIANA WITH MOST BUT NOT ALL INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS CLUSTERED
IN THE OHIO VALLEY. 12Z ECMWF SHOWING MAINLY RAIN FOR MUCH OF THE
AREA WITH A RAPIDLY DEEPENING SYSTEM FOLLOWING A LAKE CUTTER PATH
INTO THE GREAT LAKES. AT THIS POINT WITH SO MUCH UNCERTAINTY SEVERAL
DAYS OUT...TRENDED TOWARDS HPC GUIDANCE AND PREVIOUS FORECAST
THOUGHTS INDICATING A RAIN/SNOW MIX SOUTH AND MAINLY SNOW NORTH.
WITH GREATER CONFIDENCE ON TIMING IMPACTS...DID INCREASE TO 40 POPS
TUESDAY NIGHT AND WEDNESDAY. ALSO UNDERCUT TEMPERATURES FOR MUCH OF
NEXT WEEK...WITH MOST LOCATIONS REMAINING IN THE 30S FOR HIGHS
THROUGH THE PERIOD.
Member Since: 28 juin 2006 Posts: 22 Comments: 7816
601. atmoaggie 03:04 GMT le 04 décembre 2009    
Quoting Patrap:


They mentioned it was over the NWS Office today.

Hah, now I see it in the discussion:

A BROKEN DECK OF CIRROCUMULUS CLOUDS WERE PRESENT AT LAUNCH ALONG WITH A HOLE PUNCH CLOUD ABOVE THE OFFICE.

I really did see it with my own eyes, too...
Member Since: 16 août 2007 Posts: 6 Comments: 12461

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