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AL042009 - Tropical Storm CLAUDETTE

Some convection firing north and west of the eye. We'll have to see if this is the beginning of an upward trend, as Ului really has no more convection to lose, so it's all uphill from here.

Severe Tropical Cyclone Larry



TC LARRY: 512 km Townsville (Mt Stuart) Radar Loop

Click for full loop.

Storm Surge of 4.9 metres/16.07 feet above the expected tide at Bingil Bay.


Damage to Sugar Cane Mill by Larry.


Banana Plantation damage by Larry. Banana prices hit $25/kg $11/lbs.



Other damage caused by TC Larry.





Innisfail High School

Quoting Levi32:
Some convection firing north and west of the eye. We'll have to see if this is the beginning of an upward trend, as Ului really has no more convection to lose, so it's all uphill from here.

She's just sitting there churning away.

No comparison:
2010:


2009:

Stormchaser, can you compare the 2005 image.

Edit, Thank you.

Quoting drg0dOwnCountry:
Stormchaser, can you compare the 2005 image.

Sure. (Heres the link for yourself)
-----------------------------------------------
About the same....
2005:

2010:

Global boiling:
Freak storms on every continent

Second known tropical cyclone forms in "cooler" South Atlantic, while Red River braces for fourth "ten-year flood" in a row!
March 17, 2010


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“I actually think the science around climate change is real. It is potentially devastating,” Obama told reporters Monday [March 24, 2009]. “If you look at the flooding that’s going on right now in North Dakota and you say to yourself, ‘If you see an increase of two degrees, what does that do, in terms of the situation there?’ That indicates the degree to which we have to take this seriously.“
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The media love to focus on the few extreme weather events that they (mistakenly) believe are inconsistent with human-caused climate change [see "Was the 'Blizzard of 2009' a 'global warming type' of record snowfall — or an opportunity for the media to blow the extreme weather story (again)?"]. But will they keep ignoring all the extreme weather that scientists have been predicting for years would become more common as we pour more heat trapping gases into the atmosphere?

It will interesting to see the coverage this year of the impending crest of the Red River in Fargo, which smashed records last year (see Why the “never seen before” Fargo flooding is just what you’d expect from global warming, as Obama warns). It appears all but certain to be the fourth year in a row with at least a “ten-year flood,” the ninth since 1989. They just don’t make ten-year floods like they used to!

Besides Obama, the British and the Chinese understand global warming has driven their record flooding. The United States media? Not so much.

Brad Johnson of Wonkroom, notes “Record warmth on sea and land is helping to fuel extreme weather around the globe. As man takes over from nature as the primary driver of climate, the need to eliminate global warming pollution and mobilize for increased climate disruption grows.” Here’s his roundup of extreme weather:

SOUTH AMERICA Tropical Storm 90Q, also known as Anita, the “second known tropical cyclone to form in the cooler South Atlantic Ocean,” is circling off the Argentina coast. The first known South Atlantic tropical cyclone, Catarina, was in 2004.

The sea surface temperature threshold for powering up a hurricane is around 80°F, so as the oceans warms, South Atlantic hurricanes are likely to become more common. According to NASA, it was the warmest December through February on record (since 1880) for the southern hemisphere.

NORTH AMERICA Weeks after some of the strongest snowstorms ever to hit the East Coast, another powerful winter storm drenches the Northeast, kills eight people, and knocks out power for hundreds of thousands. Record warmth in North Dakota and Minnesota threatens another year of catastrophic flooding.

EUROPE “Hurricane-force winds and widespread flooding battered vast swathes of western France and left more than a million homes without power,” as the storm named Xynthia “killed at least 62 people across western Europe” in Spain, Portugal, France, Belgium, and Germany en route to Scandinavia.

AFRICA The death toll has risen to 36 people “and nearly 38,000 left homeless when tropical storm Hubert smashed into Madagascar this week.” Last month, stormy weather wreaked havoc across Egypt, as twenty-foot waves crashed into Alexandria and a hail storm killed four people in Cairo.

ASIA “A severe sandstorm hit Xinjiang’s Hotan Prefecture in northwest China on Friday, reducing visibility to zero.” The sandstorms are sweeping across China, and “are expected to hit Taiwan Tuesday.”

AUSTRALIA-PACIFIC Tomas, a Category Four cyclone, is plowing through Fiji, forcing thousands to evacuate. A “beast of a storm” ripped through Melbourne, Australia last week, “bringing with it hailstones the size of tennis balls” and causing $200 million in damage. Meanwhile flooding “which has smashed all the records known” in Queensland peaked in the country’s northeast, “parts of which have been in drought for almost a decade.”

Jeff Masters notes, “The first Category 5 tropical cyclone of the year, Tropical Cyclone Uliu, has weakened from its impressive peak as a Category 5 storm with 160 mph winds to a low-end Category 4 storm with 132 mph winds.”

ANTARCTICA Okay, so Antarctica has enjoyed a sunny and balmy summer. Unfortunately, with the pleasant skies have come accelerated melting of the ice shelves, causing sea levels to rise, the U.S. Geological Survey and the British Antarctic Survey have found.

As for the science of intense precipitation, in 2004, the Journal of Hydrometeorology published an analysis by NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center that found “Over the contiguous United States, precipitation, temperature, streamflow, and heavy and very heavy precipitation have increased during the twentieth century.”

They found (here) that over the course of the 20th century, the “Cold season (October through April),” saw a 16% increase in “heavy” precipitation events (roughly greater than 2 inches [when it comes as rain] in one day), and a 25% increase in “very heavy” precipitation events (roughly greater than 4 inches in one day)– and a 36% rise in “extreme” precipitation events (those in the 99.9% percentile — 1 in 1000 events). This rise in extreme precipitation is precisely what is predicted by global warming models in the scientific literature.

Even the Bush Administration, in its U.S. Climate Change Science Program report, Weather and Climate Extremes in a Changing Climate, acknowledged:

Many extremes and their associated impacts are now changing…. Heavy downpours have become more frequent and intense….

It is well established through formal attribution studies that the global warming of the past 50 years is due primarily to human-induced increases in heat-trapping gases.… The increase in heavy precipitation events is associated with an increase in water vapor, and the latter has been attributed to human-induced warming.

Indeed, in the northern part of the country, we’re likely to see more snow — see Massive moisture-driven extreme precipitation during warmest winter in the satellite record and An amazing, though clearly little-known, scientific fact: We get more snow storms in warm years! Then we’re going to see earlier snow melts with intense rain storms. And that will inevitably drive more and more severe flooding.

Given that we’ve only warmed about a degree Fahrenheit in the past half century and much of this country projected to warm 9°F or more on our current emissions path, it’s hard to imagine the kind of extreme weather we will ultimately be seen.

Quoting Stormchaser2007:


Sure. (Heres the link for yourself)
-----------------------------------------------
About the same....
2005:

2010:

looking at them, 2010 is slightly cooler above Cuba, which I am sure will catch up. and there is a cold spot just off the SW coast of Cuba.

Quoting NttyGrtty:
I've been lurking here for a very long time. Chose to speak up for the first time just a few months ago. Since then, I'm mostly ignored which is fine by me, but you regulars tend to dismiss most dissenting opinions by simply ignoring it, which is also fine by me. If Jeff tells me my opinion is the outlier and I need to shut up, so be it, it's his blog. The rest of you, however, can ignore away but the shut up option isn't there. I first spoke up about my desire to NOT see snow in the FL panhandle. You'd a thought I pee'd in someone's pool with the reaction I got. All I ask is simple tolerance of opinions because, afterall, that's all there is in here.

hi,
just needed to comment. when i first started posting i was asking questions of someone and someone else emailed me telling me not to bug that person, really meanly if i remember correctly. this main blog here, is just as much yours as it is theirs.

also you got a question, direct it to someone. there is a lot of good people on this blog.

Quoting altesticstorm10:
When will the Gulf warm up?

I wouldn't be surprised if the Gulf of Mexico waters stay below average through most of the spring with these late season strong cold fronts and an active subtropical jet continuing over the next couple of months which brings plenty of cloud cover and anonymously higher rainfall. How many times have we seen a very warm Gulf of Mexico during spring to not be of any importance during Hurricane Season because of an unfavorable Upper Level environment? The Caribbean and Tropical Atlantic's SST temperatures is what concerns me at this time, they are running well above average for this time of the year and are noticeably warmer than the past few years at this time. 2005 is the only year that is comparable SST wise and if you look the Tropical Atlantic and Caribbean waters are a bit warmer than 2005, especially in the Eastern Atlantic where SST's are running 2-3C above normal levels. The Gulf of Mexico will have more than enough time in June and July to reach its typical mid to upper 80F SST's when the STJ lifts North and weakens.

Mid-April is probably when the Gulf will warm up rather quickly to near normal or above normal. Especially if there's not a lot of cloudiness to cover up the waters. Things could get ugly.

Gotta keep monitoring the SST's.

Quoting drg0dOwnCountry:
Global boiling:
Freak storms on every continent

Second known tropical cyclone forms in "cooler" South Atlantic, while Red River braces for fourth "ten-year flood" in a row!
March 17, 2010


===================
“I actually think the science around climate change is real. It is potentially devastating,” Obama told reporters Monday [March 24, 2009]. “If you look at the flooding that’s going on right now in North Dakota and you say to yourself, ‘If you see an increase of two degrees, what does that do, in terms of the situation there?’ That indicates the degree to which we have to take this seriously.“
===================

The media love to focus on the few extreme weather events that they (mistakenly) believe are inconsistent with human-caused climate change [see "Was the 'Blizzard of 2009' a 'global warming type' of record snowfall — or an opportunity for the media to blow the extreme weather story (again)?"]. But will they keep ignoring all the extreme weather that scientists have been predicting for years would become more common as we pour more heat trapping gases into the atmosphere?

It will interesting to see the coverage this year of the impending crest of the Red River in Fargo, which smashed records last year (see Why the “never seen before” Fargo flooding is just what you’d expect from global warming, as Obama warns). It appears all but certain to be the fourth year in a row with at least a “ten-year flood,” the ninth since 1989. They just don’t make ten-year floods like they used to!

Besides Obama, the British and the Chinese understand global warming has driven their record flooding. The United States media? Not so much.

Brad Johnson of Wonkroom, notes “Record warmth on sea and land is helping to fuel extreme weather around the globe. As man takes over from nature as the primary driver of climate, the need to eliminate global warming pollution and mobilize for increased climate disruption grows.” Here’s his roundup of extreme weather:

SOUTH AMERICA Tropical Storm 90Q, also known as Anita, the “second known tropical cyclone to form in the cooler South Atlantic Ocean,” is circling off the Argentina coast. The first known South Atlantic tropical cyclone, Catarina, was in 2004.

The sea surface temperature threshold for powering up a hurricane is around 80°F, so as the oceans warms, South Atlantic hurricanes are likely to become more common. According to NASA, it was the warmest December through February on record (since 1880) for the southern hemisphere.

NORTH AMERICA Weeks after some of the strongest snowstorms ever to hit the East Coast, another powerful winter storm drenches the Northeast, kills eight people, and knocks out power for hundreds of thousands. Record warmth in North Dakota and Minnesota threatens another year of catastrophic flooding.

EUROPE “Hurricane-force winds and widespread flooding battered vast swathes of western France and left more than a million homes without power,” as the storm named Xynthia “killed at least 62 people across western Europe” in Spain, Portugal, France, Belgium, and Germany en route to Scandinavia.

AFRICA The death toll has risen to 36 people “and nearly 38,000 left homeless when tropical storm Hubert smashed into Madagascar this week.” Last month, stormy weather wreaked havoc across Egypt, as twenty-foot waves crashed into Alexandria and a hail storm killed four people in Cairo.

ASIA “A severe sandstorm hit Xinjiang’s Hotan Prefecture in northwest China on Friday, reducing visibility to zero.” The sandstorms are sweeping across China, and “are expected to hit Taiwan Tuesday.”

AUSTRALIA-PACIFIC Tomas, a Category Four cyclone, is plowing through Fiji, forcing thousands to evacuate. A “beast of a storm” ripped through Melbourne, Australia last week, “bringing with it hailstones the size of tennis balls” and causing $200 million in damage. Meanwhile flooding “which has smashed all the records known” in Queensland peaked in the country’s northeast, “parts of which have been in drought for almost a decade.”

Jeff Masters notes, “The first Category 5 tropical cyclone of the year, Tropical Cyclone Uliu, has weakened from its impressive peak as a Category 5 storm with 160 mph winds to a low-end Category 4 storm with 132 mph winds.”

ANTARCTICA Okay, so Antarctica has enjoyed a sunny and balmy summer. Unfortunately, with the pleasant skies have come accelerated melting of the ice shelves, causing sea levels to rise, the U.S. Geological Survey and the British Antarctic Survey have found.

As for the science of intense precipitation, in 2004, the Journal of Hydrometeorology published an analysis by NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center that found “Over the contiguous United States, precipitation, temperature, streamflow, and heavy and very heavy precipitation have increased during the twentieth century.”

They found (here) that over the course of the 20th century, the “Cold season (October through April),” saw a 16% increase in “heavy” precipitation events (roughly greater than 2 inches [when it comes as rain] in one day), and a 25% increase in “very heavy” precipitation events (roughly greater than 4 inches in one day)– and a 36% rise in “extreme” precipitation events (those in the 99.9% percentile — 1 in 1000 events). This rise in extreme precipitation is precisely what is predicted by global warming models in the scientific literature.

Even the Bush Administration, in its U.S. Climate Change Science Program report, Weather and Climate Extremes in a Changing Climate, acknowledged:

Many extremes and their associated impacts are now changing…. Heavy downpours have become more frequent and intense….

It is well established through formal attribution studies that the global warming of the past 50 years is due primarily to human-induced increases in heat-trapping gases.… The increase in heavy precipitation events is associated with an increase in water vapor, and the latter has been attributed to human-induced warming.

Indeed, in the northern part of the country, we’re likely to see more snow — see Massive moisture-driven extreme precipitation during warmest winter in the satellite record and An amazing, though clearly little-known, scientific fact: We get more snow storms in warm years! Then we’re going to see earlier snow melts with intense rain storms. And that will inevitably drive more and more severe flooding.

Given that we’ve only warmed about a degree Fahrenheit in the past half century and much of this country projected to warm 9°F or more on our current emissions path, it’s hard to imagine the kind of extreme weather we will ultimately be seen.

Yes the world is heating up at the hands of mans arrogance and irresponsibility! Although if you only look at it from a scientific point and dont look at it from a christian point too, you are missing the big picture. I have looked at global warming from scientists that dont believe in God and also from Creation scientists. I like the hope that creation scientists give ! They know that man is never going to change its ways and god is going to step in and come back and fix it! For some reason people never talk about this because for whatever reason its awkward! God made these scientists to give us all this info we need to keep this world safe, and some of us are arrogant enough to believe that we will be allowed to destroy this creation called earth.

post 756, and 759...

oh well, nevermind...

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Yes the world is heating up at the hands of mans arrogance and irresponsibility! Although if you only look at it from a scientific point and dont look at it from a christian point too, you are missing the big picture. I have looked at global warming from scientists that dont believe in God and also from Creation scientists. I like the hope that creation scientists give ! They know that man is never going to change its ways and god is going to step in and come back and fix it! For some reason people never talk about this because for whatever reason its awkward! God made these scientists to give us all this info we need to keep this world safe, and some of us are arrogant enough to believe that we will be allowed to destroy this creation called earth.
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1. Earth will not be destroyed - just a fresh boot for all life on the planet! (If it really gets ugly)

2. The church wants a clean environment, same as scientist.

3. Only we(human) can fix this and we need to hurry up. It will just get worse(for everyone).

AMEN!!!!APOCALYPSE-INDUCED MISANTHROPIC ENVIRONMENTAL NERVOUSNESS!!!!!

Quoting drg0dOwnCountry:
Global boiling:
Freak storms on every continent

Second known tropical cyclone forms in "cooler" South Atlantic, while Red River braces for fourth "ten-year flood" in a row!
March 17, 2010

Red River flooding, caused by excessive snowpack that now has to melt, global warming? Cyclone in southern Atlantic forms over colder-than-normal ocean, global warming? That cyclone formed from favorable upper-level conditons, not warmer air or SSTs.

More moisture due to global warming so hence more rain? Well, guess what, global moisture on EVERY level of the troposphere above 850mb (they don't measure higher than 300mb) is decreasing since 1950, go figure.



*Yawn*

Hmmm, that breaking wind in a tent effect strikes again. Thanks, tunnel-boy, Jr.

PRIORITY
TROPICAL CYCLONE ADVICE NUMBER 1
Issued by the Bureau of Meteorology, Brisbane
Issued at 10:56am EST on Thursday the 18th of March 2010

A Cyclone WATCH has been declared for coastal areas from Cardwell to Yeppoon.


At 10:00 am EST Severe Tropical Cyclone Ului, Category 3 was estimated to be
1140 kilometres northeast of Mackay and
1310 kilometres east of Cairns and
moving south southwest at 6 kilometres per hour.

The cyclone is expected to remain about the same strength.

Severe Tropical Cyclone Ului is expected to begin moving in a southwesterly
direction tonight towards the Queensland coast.

On current predictions the most likely scenario is for the cyclone to cross the
coast Sunday morning between Cardwell and Mackay. However, it is important to
understand that some uncertainty remains in this outlook period.

DAMAGING winds should develop between Cardwell and Yeppoon during Saturday as
the cyclone approaches the coast.

The windy conditions over much of the Queensland east coastal waters will
continue due to the tight pressure gradient generated by a combination of a high
pressure system situated in the Tasman Sea and Severe Tropical Cyclone Ului.
Seas and swell are expected to increase along much of the Queensland east coast
and produce dangerous surf conditions on the exposed coasts.

People between Cardwell and Yeppoon should consider what action they will need
to take if the cyclone threat increases. If you are unsure about the actions to
be taken, information is available from your local government or local State
Emergency Service.

Details of Severe Tropical Cyclone Ului at 10:00 am EST:
.Centre located near...... 15.0 degrees South 157.8 degrees East
.Location accuracy........ within 20 kilometres
.Recent movement.......... towards the south southwest at 6 kilometres per hour
.Wind gusts near centre... 205 kilometres per hour
.Severity category........ 3
.Central pressure......... 960 hectoPascals

Please ensure that neighbours have heard and understood this message,
particularly new arrivals or those who may not fully understand English.

The next advice will be issued by 5:00 pm EST Thursday 18 March.

Quoting Levi32:


Red River flooding, caused by excessive snowpack that now has to melt, global warming? Cyclone in southern Atlantic forms over colder-than-normal ocean, global warming? That cyclone formed from favorable upper-level conditons, not warmer air or SSTs.

More moisture due to global warming so hence more rain? Well, guess what, global moisture on EVERY level of the troposphere above 850mb is decreasing since 1950, go figure.



*Yawn*

Ummm, that plot appears to cover surface up to 900 mb...lowest levels of the troposphere.

Don't know if it's been mentioned, but the 2005 Caribbean had something else besides a busy hurricane season. It had a massive coral die-off because the above normal sea temps.

Quoting drg0dOwnCountry:

You really pretend to be smarter than a scientist?
Go figure for yourself.

Yeah. Bash Levi. Bash myself. Make sure you get all of the regular posters tired of the pseudo-doomsday scare.

Quoting atmoaggie:

Ummm, that plot appears to cover surface up to 900 mb...lowest levels of the troposphere.

No that's from 500mb.....take a gander:

850mb:



700mb:



500mb:



300mb: (highest level that they have humidity data from)

Quoting drg0dOwnCountry:
It would help if you get rid of the shirt on your head.

That is a foam alligator head on a 4 year old...

evening all just decided to drop in to say I hope your had a great St. Patrick's day and to those who will venture out hope your have a better night ;) but please do it responsibly. I'm off into the night of green.

Quoting drg0dOwnCountry:
It would help if you get rid of the shirt on your head.

Accurate perception and interpretation is very important, correct?

L8R

Quoting Levi32:


No that's from 500mb.....take a gander:

850mb:



700mb:



500mb:



300mb: (highest level that they have humidity data from)

Sorry, the resize on my end made the 300 mb look like a 900 mb...

Ok everyone deal with the troll and ignore the fact they posted a Watch for Australia now lol

Quoting drg0dOwnCountry:

You really pretend to be smarter than a scientist?
Go figure for yourself.

Ok then explain it. Explain why Al Gore (and every other GW scientist for that matter) says heavy rain and snow is increasing on the eastern seaboard due to MORE MOISTURE in the atmosphere. He's clearly wrong. The same graphs for only the New England area don't show any more increase in moisture than the global graph. Link

Quoting Levi32:


Ok then explain it. Explain why Al Gore (and every other GW scientist for that matter) says heavy rain and snow is increasing on the eastern seaboard due to MORE MOISTURE in the atmosphere. He's clearly wrong. The same graphs for only the New England area don't show any more increase in moisture than the global graph. Link

Use the FORCE LUKE lol

Here's the deal drg0d,

Unless the total moisture content in the atmosphere increases along with the temperature, then it will never be true unstoppable global warming. There will always be a check and balance for it. Why? Because if temps warm and moisture stays constant (or lessens) the relative humidity lowers. If the relative humidity of an air layer lowers, it has to be lifted higher to become saturated. If it has to be lifted higher, it cools more than it would if it had had more moisture to begin with. If relative humidity is decreasing, then the wet-bulbs can't be going up, which means higher temperatures mean drier air and more evaporative cooling, which acts as a check on the warming.

Oh and by the way, remember what I said about a drier air layer having to be lifted higher to saturate? Well guess what, that means storms have to work much harder to produce clouds and precipitation! Did you hear that? It doesn't get easier, especially for hurricanes, which are severely limited when the mid-upper levels are dry.

Sometimes I miss the blog.. sometimes.. not so much :)

Quoting Levi32:


Red River flooding, caused by excessive snowpack that now has to melt, global warming? Cyclone in southern Atlantic forms over colder-than-normal ocean, global warming? That cyclone formed from favorable upper-level conditons, not warmer air or SSTs.

More moisture due to global warming so hence more rain? Well, guess what, global moisture on EVERY level of the troposphere above 850mb (they don't measure higher than 300mb) is decreasing since 1950, go figure.



*Yawn*

There's more moisture in the lower troposphere, but less in the upper troposphere and stratosphere. The increased water vapor content is increasing the greenhouse effect at the surface and allowing more precipitation to fall.

Quoting drg0dOwnCountry:

Are you drunk?

I post the UAH images and news about recent weather catastrophes and you ask me to explain something totaly diffrent?

Are you kidding me?
Do you work for the oil industrie?

Ok then if you know nothing about it then look up an article that explains it for me! You're good at that right? Get an article that explains why they're right even though Al Gore got it all wrong, and he's the biggest face of AGW.

Quoting AstroHurricane001:


There's more moisture in the lower troposphere, but less in the upper troposphere and stratosphere. The increased water vapor content is increasing the greenhouse effect at the surface and allowing more precipitation to fall.

Yes between the surface and 850mb the moisture is rising because of the warm PDO, naturally because of more ocean evaporation. The decrease in mid-upper level moisture isn't yet fully explained. We don't know if it's the dog or the tail, but we know it's happening, and it debunks a lot that the GW people are trying to tell us. Even the IPCC says they can't fully get a handle on the humidity, which is a vital part of climate modeling.

Quoting Levi32:
Here's the deal drg0d,

Unless the total moisture content in the atmosphere increases along with the temperature, then it will never be true unstoppable global warming. There will always be a check and balance for it. Why? Because if temps warm and moisture stays constant (or lessens) the relative humidity lowers. If the relative humidity of an air layer lowers, it has to be lifted higher to become saturated. If it has to be lifted higher, it cools more than it would if it had had more moisture to begin with. If relative humidity is decreasing, then the wet-bulbs can't be going up, which means higher temperatures mean drier air and more evaporative cooling, which acts as a check on the warming.

Oh and by the way, remember what I said about a drier air layer having to be lifted higher to saturate? Well guess what, that means storms have to work much harder to produce clouds and precipitation! Did you hear that? It doesn't get easier, especially for hurricanes, which are severely limited when the mid-upper levels are dry.

Actualy i dont care about your issue with moist in new england. And i dont want to asnwer your questions, because i dont like your attitude.

You and atmo pretend to be some kind of meterolog but when it comes to climate you guys have no eyes. How comes? Do you work for dirty oil?

Quoting atmoaggie:

That is a foam alligator head on a 4 year old...

Nope, Nope, I see it differently.That is not an alligator. I have CSI on it right now. They think it is something completely different. LoL !

Quoting Levi32:


Ok then if you know nothing about it then look up an article that explains it for me! You're good at that right? Get an article that explains why they're right even though Al Gore got it all wrong, and he's the biggest face of AGW.

Ului has prompted Watches along the Australian coast

Being a scientist does not automatically make one smart, nor does a college degree. It hopefully makes one educated, and yes this includes post graduate work. Data is interpretive in many sciences, a tool to be used. There are many smart non-scientists who are very good at researching and learning something, using the data, and making viable deductions. IMO Levi appears to be one of that type. Then there are others who only read certain articles and then regurgitate it as gospel. Don't confuse education with smarts.

Quoting drg0dOwnCountry:

Actualy i dont care about your issue with moist in new england. And i dont want to asnwer your questions, because i dont like your attitude.

You and atmo pretend to be some kind of meterolog but when it comes to climate you guys have no eyes. How comes? Do you work for dirty oil?

Ok fine keep changing the subject, you didn't read what I said. I happen to know several "real" meteorologists and climate scientists that agree with what I just said, even though you probably think they're biased.