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Global warming and the frequency of intense Atlantic hurricanes: model results
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 13:37 GMT le 05 avril 2010 +7
Could global warming increase wind shear over the Atlantic, potentially leading to a decrease in the frequency of Atlantic hurricanes? There is a growing consensus among hurricane scientists that this is indeed quite possible. Two recent studies, by Zhao et al. (2009), "Simulations of Global Hurricane Climatology, Interannual Variability, and Response to Global Warming Using a 50-km Resolution GCM", and by Knutson et al. (2008), "Simulated reduction in Atlantic hurricane frequency under twenty-first-century warming conditions", found that global warming might increase wind shear over the Atlantic by the end of the century, resulting in a decrease in the number of Atlantic hurricanes. For example, the second study took 18 relatively coarse (>60 km grid size) models used to formulate the 2007 IPCC climate report, and "downscaled" them using a higher-resolution (18 km grid size) model called ZETAC that was able to successfully simulate the frequencies of hurricanes over the past 50 years. When the 18 km ZETAC model was driven using the climate conditions we expect in 2100, as output by the 18 IPCC models, the authors found that a reduction of Atlantic tropical storms by 27% and hurricanes by 18% by the end of the century resulted. An important reason that their model predicted a decrease in the frequency of Atlantic hurricanes was due to a predicted increase in wind shear. As I explain in my wind shear tutorial, a large change of wind speed with height over a hurricane creates a shearing force that tends to tear the storm apart. The amount of wind shear is critical in determining whether a hurricane can form or survive.


Figure 1. Top: predicted change by 2100 in wind shear (in meters per second per degree C of warming--multiply by two to get mph) as predicted by summing the predictions of 18 climate models. Bottom: The number of models that predict the effect shown in the top image. The dots show the locations where tropical storms formed between 1981-2005. The box indicates a region of frequent hurricane formation where wind shear is not predicted to change much. Image credit: Geophysical Research Letters, "Increased Tropical Atlantic Wind Shear in Model Projections of Global Warming", by Vecchi and Soden, 2007.

Since the Knutson et al. study using the 18 km resolution ZETAC model was not detailed enough to look at what might happen to major Category 3 and stronger hurricanes, a new study using a higher resolution model was needed. This was done by a team of modelers led by Dr. Morris Bender of NOAA's GFDL laboratory, who published their results in Science in February. The authors used the GFDL hurricane model--the model that has been our best-performing operation hurricane track forecasting model over the past five years--to perform their study. The GFDL hurricane model runs at a resolution of 9 km, which is detailed enough to make accurate simulations of major hurricanes. The researchers did a double downscaling study, where they first took the forecast atmospheric and oceanic conditions at generated by the coarse (>60 km grid) IPCC models, used these data to initialize the finer resolution 18 km ZETAC model, then used the output from the ZETAC model to initialize the high-resolution GFDL hurricane model. The final results of this "double downscaling" study suggest that although the total number of hurricanes is expected to decrease by the end of the century, we should expect an increase of 81% in the number of Category 4 and 5 storms in the Atlantic. This trend should not be clearly detectable until about 60 years from now, given a scenario in which CO2 doubles by 2100. The authors say that their model predicts that there should already have been a 20% increase in the number of Category 4 and 5 storms since the 1940s, given the approximate 0.5°C warming of the tropical Atlantic during that period. This trend is too small to be detectable, given the high natural variability and the difficulty we've had accurately measuring the exact strength of intense hurricanes before the 1980s.The region of the Atlantic expected to see the greatest increase in Category 4 and 5 storms by the year 2100 is over the Bahama Islands (Figure 2), since wind shear is not expected to increase in this region, and sea surface temperatures and atmospheric instability are expected to increase there.

The net effect of a decrease in total number of hurricanes but an increase in the strongest hurricanes should cause an increase in U.S. hurricane damages of about 30% by the end of the century, the authors compute, assuming that hurricane damages behave as they did during the past century. Over the past century, Category 4 and 5 hurricanes made up only 6% of all U.S. landfalls, but accounted for 48% of all U.S. damage (if normalized to account for increases in U.S. population and wealth, Pielke et al., 2008.)


Figure 2. Expected change in Atlantic Category 4 and 5 hurricane per decade expected by the year 2100, accord to the Science paper by Bender et al. (2010).

Commentary
These results seem reasonable, since the models in question have been successfully been able to simulate the behavior of hurricanes over the past 50 years. However, the uncertainties are high and lot more research needs to be done before we can be confident of the results. Not all of the IPCC models predict an increase in wind shear over the tropical Atlantic by 2100, so the increase in Category 4 and 5 hurricanes could be much greater. Also, the GFDL model was observed to under-predict the strength of intense hurricanes in the current climate, so it may not be creating enough Category 4 and 5 hurricanes in the future climate of 2100. On the other hand, IPCC models such as the UKMO-HadCM3 predict a very large increase in wind shear, leading to a drastic reduction in all hurricanes in the Atlantic by 2100, including Category 4 and 5 storms. So Category 4 and 5 hurricane frequency could easily be much greater or much less than the 81% increase by 2100 found by Bender et al.

The estimates of a 30% increase in hurricane damages by 2100 may be considerably too low, since this estimate assumes that sea level rise will continue at the same pace as was observed in the 20th century. Sea level rise has accelerated since the 1990s, and it is likely that this century we will see much more than than the 7 inches of global sea level rise that was observed last century. Higher sea level rise rates will sharply increase the damages due to storm surge, which account for a large amount of the damage from intense Category 4 and 5 hurricanes.

Keep in mind that while a 30% in hurricane damage by the end of the century is significant, this will not be the main reason hurricane damages will increase this century. Hurricane damages are currently doubling every ten years, according to Pielke et al., 2008. This is primarily due to the increasing population along the coast and increased wealth of the population. The authors theorize that the Great Miami Hurricane of 1926, a Category 4 monster that made a direct hit on Miami Beach, would have caused about $150 billion in damage had it hit in 2005. By 2015, the authors expect the same hurricane would do $300 billion in damage. This number would increase to $600 billion by 2025 (though I think it is likely that the recent recession may delay this damage total a few years into the future.) It is essential that we limit coastal development in vulnerable coastal areas, particularly along barrier islands, to reduce some of the astronomical price tags hurricanes are going to be causing. Adoption and enforcement of strict building standards is also a must.

The authors of the GFDL hurricane model study have put together a nice web page with links to the paper and some detailed non-technical explanations of the paper.

References
Bender et al., 2010, "Modeled Impact of Anthropogenic Warming on the Frequency of Intense Atlantic Hurricanes", Science, 22 January 2010: Vol. 327. no. 5964, pp. 454 - 458 DOI: 10.1126/science.1180568.

Vecchi, G.A., B.J. Soden, A.T. Wittenberg, I.M. Held, A. Leetmaa, and M.J. Harrison, 2006, "Weakening of tropical Pacific atmospheric circulation due to anthropogenic forcing", Nature, 441(7089), 73-76.

Vecchi, G.A., and B.J. Soden, 2007, "Increased Tropical Atlantic Wind Shear in Model Projections of Global Warming", Geophysical Research Letters, 34, L08702, doi:10.1029/2006GL028905, 2007.

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952. AstroHurricane001 03:59 GMT le 07 avril 2010    
Quoting skepticall2:
From the dictionary:
skep·ti·cal   [skep-ti-kuhl] Show IPA
–adjective
1.
inclined to skepticism; having doubt: a skeptical young woman.
2.
showing doubt: a skeptical smile.
3.
denying or questioning the tenets of a religion: a skeptical approach to the nature of miracles.
4.
(initial capital letter) of or pertaining to Skeptics or Skepticism.


There are 2 L's at the end because the 1 L Skeptical was taken. Don't call me out please it doesn't bode well for you.


If you come up with a conclusion first then examine the evidence, that's not skepticism but either denial or politically-driven science (which should not count as real science).
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953. Skyepony (Mod) 04:00 GMT le 07 avril 2010    
Quoting AstroHurricane001:


Hmm, warm anomaly of the Gulf Stream from New England to between Bermuda and Newfoundland to west of Greenland. Could an extratropical remnant of a hurricane travel up that anomaly this season?


When I worked out my analog years for the up coming season, comparing the other 6 most similar ENSO years going back over the last 6 months.. most or all those years had at least 1 early season storm, between like A & D name that paralleled the coast well off shore up where that warm streak is coming together. Get some more heat from the gulf to connect it & it looks set for action. It's why I predicted at least 1 A-D storm to travel that path.
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955. BahaHurican 04:01 GMT le 07 avril 2010    
Wow. Another 7.7 earthquake, 2nd in 3 days!
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956. Chicklit 04:02 GMT le 07 avril 2010    
MODELS SHOW AN INVERTED SFC TROF PATTERN SETTING UP ACROSS THE GREATER ANTILLES NEXT WEEK WITH THE 12Z ECMWF MUCH FASTER THAN
THE GFS WITH THE ONSET OF THIS PRESSURE PATTERN. EUROPEAN ALSO SHOWS MID-UPPER TROF DEEPENING ACROSS THE WRN ATLC AND EVENTUAL
EVOLUTION INTO A CUTOFF LOW NW OF THE AREA. GFES MEANS NOT AS AGRESSIVE MAINTANING JUST AN OPEN TROF BUT SOME GFS MEMBERS ARE ALSO INDICATING EVENTUAL EVOLUTION INTO THIS UPPER LEVEL PATTERN.
DEFINITELY SOME DIFFERENCES STILL EXIST IN TIMING AND EVOLUTION OF THIS PATTERN THAT WILL STILL NEED TO BE RESOLVED OUT BUT A SITUATION TO MONITOR CLOSELY OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS AS THE EUROPEAN SOLUTION WOULD BE ONE FOR HEAVY LONG LASTING FLASH FLOODING RAINS. THE LATEST MJO ANALYSIS SHOWS THAT THE MJO HAS BEEN PROPAGATING EWD ACROSS THE WESTERN PACIFIC WITH DYNAMICAL AND STATISTICAL MODELS INDICATING INCREASING UPPER LEVEL DIVERGENCE ACROSS THE CARIBBEAN DURING THE MIDDLE OF THE MONTH. SO THE BASIC TREND HERE IS FOR MUCH WETTER CONDITIONS NEXT WEEK THAN WE HAD RECENTLY EXPERIENCED.

That's a bit too far north to help Pottery.
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957. Levi32 04:04 GMT le 07 avril 2010    
Quoting skepticall2:
Not sure Levi but my time come 2 a.m. they will replay the Colbert Report but I am unsure if they do the same up in AK


I just checked my TV guide....yay it does re-air at 10:00-10:30pm my time. I'll definitely be watching.
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959. AussieStorm 04:07 GMT le 07 avril 2010    
Quoting hydrus:
you are probably the northernmost blogger here. I hope to see Alaska someday. I have read quite a bit about the state parks there.

I must be the southern most blogger here.
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960. Levi32 04:09 GMT le 07 avril 2010    
Quoting AussieStorm:

I must be the southern most blogger here.


Probably :)

I've had some people from Argentina visit my blog though which rival your latitude, but I can't be sure they are actually bloggers or just visitors to the site.
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961. Chicklit 04:09 GMT le 07 avril 2010    
A 7.7 magnitude earthquake has jolted the Indonesian island of Sumatra, triggering a brief tsunami watch but no immediate reports of serious damage or casualties.

The U.S. Geological Survey says the quake struck before dawn Wednesday. It was centered about 205 kilometers northwest of the island, 31 kilometers under the Indian Ocean.

The USGS initially measured the quake at 7.8, but now says it was a 7.7 magnitude.

The quake triggered a local tsunami warning which was canceled two hours later.

There is no word yet on damage or casualties. But witnesses report power blackouts in several parts of Aceh province and on Simeulue Island, west of Aceh.

Sumatra is the largest Indonesian island. A 9.1 magnitude quake struck off Aceh in December, 2004, triggering a historic tsunami that killed 226,000 people.

Indonesia is located in the Pacific Ocean's so-called Ring of Fire, where the continental plates meet. This creates conditions for frequent earthquake and volcanoes from Asia to the American Pacific coasts.

QuakeStrikesIndonesia
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962. BahaHurican 04:09 GMT le 07 avril 2010    
Quoting AussieStorm:

I must be the southern most blogger here.
R u east or west coast, Aussie?
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963. hydrus 04:10 GMT le 07 avril 2010    
Quoting Chicklit:
MODELS SHOW AN INVERTED SFC TROF PATTERN SETTING UP ACROSS THE GREATER ANTILLES NEXT WEEK WITH THE 12Z ECMWF MUCH FASTER THAN
THE GFS WITH THE ONSET OF THIS PRESSURE PATTERN. EUROPEAN ALSO SHOWS MID-UPPER TROF DEEPENING ACROSS THE WRN ATLC AND EVENTUAL
EVOLUTION INTO A CUTOFF LOW NW OF THE AREA. GFES MEANS NOT AS AGRESSIVE MAINTANING JUST AN OPEN TROF BUT SOME GFS MEMBERS ARE ALSO INDICATING EVENTUAL EVOLUTION INTO THIS UPPER LEVEL PATTERN.
DEFINITELY SOME DIFFERENCES STILL EXIST IN TIMING AND EVOLUTION OF THIS PATTERN THAT WILL STILL NEED TO BE RESOLVED OUT BUT A SITUATION TO MONITOR CLOSELY OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS AS THE EUROPEAN SOLUTION WOULD BE ONE FOR HEAVY LONG LASTING FLASH FLOODING RAINS. THE LATEST MJO ANALYSIS SHOWS THAT THE MJO HAS BEEN PROPAGATING EWD ACROSS THE WESTERN PACIFIC WITH DYNAMICAL AND STATISTICAL MODELS INDICATING INCREASING UPPER LEVEL DIVERGENCE ACROSS THE CARIBBEAN DURING THE MIDDLE OF THE MONTH. SO THE BASIC TREND HERE IS FOR MUCH WETTER CONDITIONS NEXT WEEK THAN WE HAD RECENTLY EXPERIENCED.!--

That's a bit too far north to help Pottery.
True, However Pottery did say if a low does move from the Atlantic into the Caribbean, it can drag a lot of moisture out of the ITCZ over his region. Hence my anticipation for tomorrows model runs.
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964. Levi32 04:10 GMT le 07 avril 2010    
Quoting skepticall2:


Wow wish it would re air sooner. It is already 11 and I got work at 630 won't be able to watch it. Hopefully it is on the internet tomorrow when I get off.


It probably will be, knowing how these things spread like wildfire. I hope the debate is longer than the last one on O'Reilly. It takes a lot of time to get all the information out in such debates.
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965. hydrus 04:11 GMT le 07 avril 2010    
Quoting Chicklit:
A 7.7 magnitude earthquake has jolted the Indonesian island of Sumatra, triggering a brief tsunami watch but no immediate reports of serious damage or casualties.

The U.S. Geological Survey says the quake struck before dawn Wednesday. It was centered about 205 kilometers northwest of the island, 31 kilometers under the Indian Ocean.

The USGS initially measured the quake at 7.8, but now says it was a 7.7 magnitude.

The quake triggered a local tsunami warning which was canceled two hours later.

There is no word yet on damage or casualties. But witnesses report power blackouts in several parts of Aceh province and on Simeulue Island, west of Aceh.

Sumatra is the largest Indonesian island. A 9.1 magnitude quake struck off Aceh in December, 2004, triggering a historic tsunami that killed 226,000 people.

Indonesia is located in the Pacific Ocean's so-called Ring of Fire, where the continental plates meet. This creates conditions for frequent earthquake and volcanoes from Asia to the American Pacific coasts.

QuakeStrikesIndonesia
Thank God no Tsunami.:)
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967. Chicklit 04:13 GMT le 07 avril 2010    
Isn't it going in the other direction?

CentAtLoop
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968. BahaHurican 04:13 GMT le 07 avril 2010    
Quoting Chicklit:
A 7.7 magnitude earthquake has jolted the Indonesian island of Sumatra, triggering a brief tsunami watch but no immediate reports of serious damage or casualties.

The U.S. Geological Survey says the quake struck before dawn Wednesday. It was centered about 205 kilometers northwest of the island, 31 kilometers under the Indian Ocean.

The USGS initially measured the quake at 7.8, but now says it was a 7.7 magnitude.

The quake triggered a local tsunami warning which was canceled two hours later.

There is no word yet on damage or casualties. But witnesses report power blackouts in several parts of Aceh province and on Simeulue Island, west of Aceh.

Sumatra is the largest Indonesian island. A 9.1 magnitude quake struck off Aceh in December, 2004, triggering a historic tsunami that killed 226,000 people.

Indonesia is located in the Pacific Ocean's so-called Ring of Fire, where the continental plates meet. This creates conditions for frequent earthquake and volcanoes from Asia to the American Pacific coasts.

QuakeStrikesIndonesia
Just read this elsewhere, chick. I'm sure they'll have more information about damage as the day progresses there. This is the same area hit in '04.... :o(

Still looking for updates on Sunday's earthquake. I do note that they're still having aftershocks there in SoCal / NMex.
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969. Chicklit 04:14 GMT le 07 avril 2010    
Hi Baha. KmanIslander was complaining of quakes over there too. South I think he said, the deepest part of the Caribbean.
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970. hydrus 04:16 GMT le 07 avril 2010    
Quoting AussieStorm:

I must be the southern most blogger here.
lol You are the southernmost person I have ever conversed with in my life.
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971. Levi32 04:16 GMT le 07 avril 2010    
The new ONI (Oceanic Nino Index) value is out for the Jan-Feb-Mar period. It shows another gradual decline but more of a fall than the DJF period which had started falling off the peak. The 3-month average is now right on the strong threshold and will be down in the moderate category next month.



Link
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972. Chicklit 04:19 GMT le 07 avril 2010    
you come up with a conclusion first then examine the evidence, that's not skepticism but either denial or politically-driven science (which should not count as real science). AstroHurricane

When do you think it is going to rain in the Antilles?
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973. hydrus 04:20 GMT le 07 avril 2010    
Quoting Chicklit:
Isn't it going in the other direction?

CentAtLoop
No, it is still there. If you zoom a little, it is inland a couple hundred miles. You can see the counter-clockwise rotation.
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974. AussieStorm 04:22 GMT le 07 avril 2010    
Quoting Bordonaro:
#869...AussieStorm, Australia is getting hammered!! Is the drought starting to subside in Australia yet, as the El Nino is winding down?


Rainfall deficits ease across eastern Australia but worsen in the west




Widespread above average rainfall across eastern Australia during summer 2009-2010, especially in February, has eased short-term deficiencies across most of eastern Australia. In contrast, a drier than normal summer across the western half of WA has increased rainfall deficits in some areas.

For the 11-month period from April 2009 to February 2010, serious to severe rainfall deficiencies are evident over much of the central WA coast reaching inland, covering much of the Pilbara and Gascoyne districts. Serious to severe rainfall deficiencies are also evident over the Southeast Coastal and Great Southern districts, with an area of lowest-on-record for the period located near Esperance.

As mentioned in the introduction, above to very much above average rainfall over much of eastern Australia in February was enough to remove most of the deficiencies that had existed in southeastern Queensland and NSW and eastern Victoria when compared with the 7 and 13-month period ending January 2010 from the previous Drought Statement.

Very long-term rainfall deficiencies outside of the drought periods discussed above persist across parts of southern and eastern Australia. Most notably, rainfall has been below average across much of southwest and southeast Australia since 1997, while the Murray-Darling Basin has experienced below average rainfall since 2002.

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975. Chicklit 04:23 GMT le 07 avril 2010    
Hi Levi, trying to figure out when the Lesser Antilles will get some rain. And what sort of rain will that be.
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976. AussieStorm 04:24 GMT le 07 avril 2010    
Quoting BahaHurican:
R u east or west coast, Aussie?

East coast, Parramatta, Sydney to be exact.
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977. AussieStorm 04:25 GMT le 07 avril 2010    
Quoting hydrus:
lol You are the southernmost person I have ever conversed with in my life.

Is Scotland a higher Latitude than you? I also have relatives in Calgary, Canada
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978. WaterWitch11 04:26 GMT le 07 avril 2010    
hey everyone,
i remember making a statement a while ago stating the average amount of US earthquakes at any given time was between 800-900 and 1100-1200 was the high side. when i just looked at it the number was 1844. there has been over 1000 eq's in the area of the mexico eq. it just amazes me how much the normal pattern has change.

just a thought i thought i'd share!
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979. Levi32 04:26 GMT le 07 avril 2010    
MJO is in a favorable position for upward motion and enhanced convection over the eastern Caribbean for the next 3 weeks, particularly around mid-month.

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980. JRRP 04:27 GMT le 07 avril 2010    
Quoting Levi32:
The new ONI (Oceanic Nino Index) value is out for the Jan-Feb-Mar period. It shows another gradual decline but more of a fall than the DJF period which had started falling off the peak. The 3-month average is now right on the strong threshold and will be down in the moderate category next month.



Link

like 1958
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981. Skyepony (Mod) 04:29 GMT le 07 avril 2010    
Quoting Levi32:
MJO is in a favorable position for upward motion and enhanced convection over the eastern Caribbean for the next 3 weeks, particularly around mid-month.



long term models have picked up on it.. gfs was looking pretty bullish at the end of the run.
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982. Chicklit 04:29 GMT le 07 avril 2010    
Very nice. Thanks, Levi.
Conditions are right for it.
Pottery in Trinidad is worried about too much falling at once.
The island is due to run out of water by April's end though, so it may be one of those mixed blessings.
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983. JRRP 04:32 GMT le 07 avril 2010    
Quoting Chicklit:
you come up with a conclusion first then examine the evidence, that's not skepticism but either denial or politically-driven science (which should not count as real science). AstroHurricane

When do you think it is going to rain in the Antilles?

156 hrs

174

see you later
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984. Skyepony (Mod) 04:33 GMT le 07 avril 2010    
1958 is in there..
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985. hydrus 04:33 GMT le 07 avril 2010    
[3]
Quoting AussieStorm:

Is Scotland a higher Latitude than you? I also have relatives in Calgary, Canada
Yes, Scotland is about 55 degrees north I am at 35 degrees.
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986. Levi32 04:34 GMT le 07 avril 2010    
Quoting Chicklit:
Hi Levi, trying to figure out when the Lesser Antilles will get some rain. And what sort of rain will that be.


Hey Chicklit. Yeah well it does look like they will get it in 8-12 days according to the GFS ensembles.

18z ensemble 252-hour 500mb forecast:

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987. Chicklit 04:36 GMT le 07 avril 2010    
Hi Skye, Levi says 8-12 days, JRRP says 4 days and it rains in the Lesser Antilles. Do you have an opinion?
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988. hydrus 04:37 GMT le 07 avril 2010    
Quoting Chicklit:
Very nice. Thanks, Levi.
Conditions are right for it.
Pottery in Trinidad is worried about too much falling at once.
The island is due to run out of water by April's end though, so it may be one of those mixed blessings.
I did the best I could Chicklit. I was trying link the GEM model to you, but it would not go through.
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989. Levi32 04:41 GMT le 07 avril 2010    
European 240-hour shows the upper trough north of PR as well.

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990. AussieStorm 04:42 GMT le 07 avril 2010    
I'm off to work, will be back later tonight, Stay safe.
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992. Chicklit 04:47 GMT le 07 avril 2010    
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993. Levi32 04:49 GMT le 07 avril 2010    
The GFS has 10-20mm of total precip through 180 hours. The NOGAPS has similar amounts through 144 hours but mostly confined to the southern Antilles.

GFS accumulated precip to 180 hours:



NOGAPS accumulated precip through 144 hours:


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994. Levi32 04:50 GMT le 07 avril 2010    
The Canadian also shows some rain through 144 hours:

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995. hydrus 04:52 GMT le 07 avril 2010    
Quoting StSimonsIslandGAGuy:


Well in Feb 2008 on my Antarctic cruise I posted from 64 degrees south :)
I would like to do that. The cruise and the post. :)
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996. Skyepony (Mod) 04:53 GMT le 07 avril 2010    
Quoting Chicklit:
Hi Skye, Levi says 8-12 days, JRRP says 4 days and it rains in the Lesser Antilles. Do you have an opinion?


I think when the MJO rolls through 8-12 is the best chance but maybe they'll get lucky with the sea breezes before hand. Patterns & features are changing..
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997. hydrus 04:54 GMT le 07 avril 2010    
Quoting Levi32:
The Canadian also shows some rain through 144 hours:

It is those 2 blobs near Hispaniola that has me concerned.
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998. rareaire 05:32 GMT le 07 avril 2010    
Evening all!! Rainy windy and stormy here but nice to get the rain!
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999. winter123 05:42 GMT le 07 avril 2010    
Quoting Levi32:


Where? I wanna see.

Edit: I guess it just happened.....I'll have to wait for it to show up on Youtube I guess.

What??? Bastardi on Colbert Report? Well It's on again tomorrow, multiple times. I think 2pm otherwise I'll just *not* download it.
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1001. tornadodude 07:16 GMT le 07 avril 2010    
good early morning all,

just thought I'd stop by and read up from today.

anyway, have a great rest of the night.

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