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First Atlantic Invest, 90L is here; oil now 350 miles west of Key West
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 20:40 GMT le 21 mai 2010 +4
An extratropical low pressure system has developed a few hundred miles northeast of the Bahamas today, and has been designated as the first "Invest" of the year (90L) by the National Hurricane Center. (For those of you who were wondering, a discussion of what an "Invest" is can be found in the Tropical Cyclone FAQ). This low has the potential to develop into the season's first named storm--Alex--and could be a threat to the Southeast U.S. coast by Tuesday. Wind shear is currently 40 knots over the low, and the high shear ripped apart a low level circulation that was attempting to form this morning. Water vapor loops show a large amount of dry, continental air exists to the west of the storm, and this dry air will hamper transition of 90L to a subtropical storm. This system is expected to move slowly northwestward towards the Southeast U.S. coast, and could bring 20 - 30 mph winds and heavy rain to the coast of North Carolina by Tuesday. While the storm will initially form in a region of high wind shear and be entirely extratropical, it will move into a region of lower wind shear in a gap between the polar jet stream to the north and the subtropical jet stream to its south early next week. At that time, the low will be positioned near the warm waters of the Gulf Stream, and will have the opportunity to develop a shallow warm core and transition to a subtropical storm. The models are divided on whether the storm will eventually make landfall on the Southeast U.S. coast 5 - 7 days from now, and it is too early to offer odds on this occurring. The counter-clockwise flow of air around this low will probably lead to northeasterly winds over the oil spill region Tuesday through Wednesday, keeping oil away from the coasts of Alabama and the Florida Panhandle, but pushing oil southwards towards the Loop Current. Wunderbloggers Weather456 and StormW have more detailed discussions of the potential development of 90L.


Figure 1. Visible satellite image of 90L this afternoon.

Potential heavy rainfall threat to Haiti next week
Long-range forecasts from the NOGAPS model, and to a lesser extent, the ECMWF and GFS models, continue to predict an increase in moisture and decrease in wind shear over the Western Caribbean 4 - 6 days from now, leading to development of a tropical disturbance with heavy rains in the Western Caribbean early next week. A strong subtropical jet stream over the southern Gulf of Mexico will steer the disturbance to the north and east, and the potential exists for heavy rains of 2 - 4 inches to affect eastern Cuba, Jamaica, Haiti, and the Dominican Republic in the Wednesday - Thursday time frame next week. The models are less enthusiastic about the prospects for tropical development than they were in yesterday's runs, and it currently appears that high levels of wind shear will make formation of a tropical depression improbable.

Oil spill continues to impact Louisiana shores
Light southeast to east winds are expected to blow over the northern Gulf of Mexico today through Sunday, resulting in potential oiling of Louisiana shorelines from the mouth of the Mississippi River westward 150 miles, according to the latest trajectory forecasts from NOAA. These winds may be creating strong enough surface currents that the flow of oil southwards towards the Loop Current may be significantly reduced or shut off over the next few days, as suggested by the latest SAR satellite imagery (Figure 2). However, winds will shift to offshore out of the north or northeast by Tuesday, due to counter-clockwise flow of air around the approaching 90L storm. If 90L becomes strong and lingers off the Southeast U.S. coast for several days, a significant amount of oil could get pumped into the Loop Current next week.


Figure 2. Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) image of the oil spill taken at 11:53pm EDT May 20, 2010, by the European Space Agency's ENVISAT satellite. The plume of oil being drawn south towards the Loop Current appears truncated, and very little oil may be flowing south. Image credit: Center for Southeastern Tropical Advanced Remote Sensing, University of Miami Rosenstiel School of Marine and Atmospheric Science. SAR images have a resolution of 8 - 50 meters, and can be taken through clouds and precipitation.

Oil now 350 miles due west of Key West
Satellite imagery from today's 12:15pm EDT pass of NASA's Terra satellite (Figure 3) shows that a narrow ribbon of oil is caught in the Loop Current. The oil has moved south and then southwest, and the leading edge of the oil is now about 350 miles due west of Key West, Florida. The oil is substantial enough to modify the cumulus clouds in the Gulf of Mexico, though NOAA characterizes this portion of the oil spill as "numerous light sheens with some emulsified patties and streams." The oil is now headed away from the Keys towards a major kink in the Loop Current. By Saturday, the oil should double back towards the Keys in a eastward flowing branch of the Loop Current, and will likely pass just south of Key West by Tuesday. However, this is not a sure thing. As I discussed in my post Wednesday, the Loop Current is very unstable right now, and is ready to cut off into a giant clockwise-rotating eddy, an event that occurs every 6 - 11 months. This event could occur today or tomorrow, in which case the ribbon of southwestward-moving oil would turn due west and then north, eventually winding up back near the site of the Deepwater Horizon blowout. Roffer's Ocean Fishing Forecast Service has a nice discussion on the possibility of the Loop Current cutting off into a Loop Current Eddy. Keep in mind, though, that during the first month that a Loop Current Eddy forms, it exchanges a considerable amount of water with the Loop Current. Even if a Loop Current Eddy forms today, I still expect we will see some oil make the turn eastward and flow past the Florida Keys by Wednesday.


Figure 3. Visible satellite image from NASA's MODIS instrument for 12:15pm EDT May 21, 2010. I've enhanced the region along the eastern boundary of the Loop Current showing the south and southwestward moving ribbon of oil. Note that the oil is substantial enough to be affecting the low level cumulus clouds along portions of the ribbon of oil. The oil has reached the latitude of the Florida Keys.

Oil spill resources
My post Wednesday with answers to some of the common questions I get about the spill
My post on the Southwest Florida "Forbidden Zone" where surface oil will rarely go
My post on what oil might do to a hurricane
NOAA trajectory forecasts
Deepwater Horizon Unified Command web site
Oil Spill Academic Task Force
University of South Florida Ocean Circulation Group oil spill forecasts
ROFFS Deepwater Horizon page
Surface current forecasts from NOAA's HYCOM model
Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) imagery from the University of Miami

I'll be back with a new post Saturday afternoon.

Jeff Masters
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151. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 22:45 GMT le 21 mai 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
ASCAT yet to update. WINDSAT missed completely 90L.
that will be the story of 2010 season
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152. Tazmanian 22:46 GMT le 21 mai 2010    
Quoting StormW:
Whoa!




yes what is it showing me and us
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153. EnergyMoron 22:46 GMT le 21 mai 2010    
The impact of the spill on cumulus clouds is amazing.

Anyway, things are starting to come out at what went technically wrong to cause this oil spill disaster...

Link
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154. plywoodstatenative 22:46 GMT le 21 mai 2010    
Quoting Levi32:


That's the 0z run from last night.

This is the 12z 144 hour:



Notice that they initialize something down south of the Yucatan Channel. My feeling on this is, the high is setting up over the Bahamas and will the deciding factor in where this blob goes.

We are used to seeing sub tropical or non tropical lows be labeled as invests at this time of the year. Look discuss this, but dont wishcast this early.
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156. MiamiHurricanes09 22:48 GMT le 21 mai 2010    
Station 41046 - E Bahamas
23.836 N 70.863 W

Conditions at 41046 as of
(5:50 pm EDT)
2150 GMT on 05/21/2010:


Wind Direction (WDIR): S ( 190 deg true )
Wind Speed (WSPD): 9.7 kts
Wind Gust (GST): 11.7 kts
Wave Height (WVHT): 5.6 ft
Dominant Wave Period (DPD): 8 sec
Average Period (APD): 6.1 sec
Mean Wave Direction (MWD): ESE ( 113 deg true )
Atmospheric Pressure (PRES): 29.87 in
Pressure Tendency (PTDY): -0.02 in ( Falling )
Air Temperature (ATMP): 78.3 °F
Water Temperature (WTMP): 79.3 °F
Dew Point (DEWP): 74.8 °F
Heat Index (HEAT): 81.1 °F
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157. Levi32 22:48 GMT le 21 mai 2010    
Quoting plywoodstatenative:


Notice that they initialize something down south of the Yucatan Channel. My feeling on this is, the high is setting up over the Bahamas and will the deciding factor in where this blob goes.

We are used to seeing sub tropical or non tropical lows be labeled as invests at this time of the year. Look discuss this, but dont wishcast this early.


There's not exactly room for wishcasting development-wise on 90L. There is a pretty high chance of it becoming subtropical storm Alex.
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158. MiamiHurricanes09 22:49 GMT le 21 mai 2010    
Quoting Levi32:
12z CMC phase diagram has the system becoming deep warm-core, or fully tropical, as it approaches the coast.

Probably due to the gulf stream.

Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
that will be the story of 2010 season
You know it.
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159. ElConando 22:49 GMT le 21 mai 2010    
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
that will be the story of 2010 season


And QIUKSCAT is STILL nowhere to be found!!! GOSH!
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160. MrstormX 22:49 GMT le 21 mai 2010    
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161. stormwatcherCI 22:49 GMT le 21 mai 2010    
Quoting Levi32:


That's the 0z run from last night.

This is the 12z 144 hour:

Is that still expected development of something in the SW Caribbean.
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162. plywoodstatenative 22:51 GMT le 21 mai 2010    
Levi, whats the forecast for Grand Bahama now due to this item.
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163. Levi32 22:51 GMT le 21 mai 2010    
Quoting stormwatcherCI:
Is that still expected development of something in the SW Caribbean.


It is still a possibility yes. We are still waiting for a low to form down there, but if one does, any tropical system that develops out of it will likely stay weak due to wind shear moderating it.
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164. Skyepony (Mod) 22:52 GMT le 21 mai 2010    
Kermit went home. Here's the flight path it took scouting the current loop & forming eddy. Ignore all the long lines off to the ESE. There is some sort of glitch going on with it.
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165. MrstormX 22:52 GMT le 21 mai 2010    
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166. plywoodstatenative 22:52 GMT le 21 mai 2010    
Levi, then explain how that mess developed off the end of the front last night. That was impressive even with the amount of dry air being induced to it.
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167. Patrap 22:52 GMT le 21 mai 2010    
A Lil to the left HAL..
..no,more.,a lil more..

DOH,,..!

BP Oil Spill LIVE FEED ROV CAM

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168. Levi32 22:53 GMT le 21 mai 2010    
Quoting plywoodstatenative:
Levi, whats the forecast for Grand Bahama now due to this item.


Pretty nice actually. The dry air wrapping around the upper-level feature from the north should keep skies clear and generally nice weather. 90L will be moving off to the east and north.
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169. plywoodstatenative 22:54 GMT le 21 mai 2010    
Skye, am I correct in understanding that along the area northeast and west of the spill that two eddies have formed?
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170. MiamiHurricanes09 22:54 GMT le 21 mai 2010    
Many people are pointing out an area in the SW Caribbean that models are suggesting development. That is an area of deep convection in the picture below.

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171. Patrap 22:55 GMT le 21 mai 2010    
172. Levi32 22:56 GMT le 21 mai 2010    
Quoting plywoodstatenative:
Levi, then explain how that mess developed off the end of the front last night. That was impressive even with the amount of dry air being induced to it.


East of the Yucatan? Or the Bahamas? With both systems the convection and areas of low pressure were both induced by a disturbance aloft over each system, not a front, which forced air to rise in both areas. Neither of them were self-sustaining tropical systems and thus it means nothing that convection was firing despite the shear.
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173. Cavin Rawlins 22:57 GMT le 21 mai 2010    
Quoting plywoodstatenative:
Levi, then explain how that mess developed off the end of the front last night. That was impressive even with the amount of dry air being induced to it.


This did not developed along a front. This was initiated by a shortwave that was accompanied by a front.

May 18

Models are also indicating that a trough-split scenario may give rise to a non-tropical feature east of the Bahamas basically around the same time frame.

May 19

The first solution dictates that a shortwave begins to dig across the Western Atlantic through the next 3-7 days inducing a surface trough of low pressure east of the Bahamas in the process.

May 20

Models have been indicating with good consensus, that the shortwave will begin to initiate an area of low pressure near the Bahamas as it interacts with the southern portion a dying front in two days.
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174. Levi32 22:57 GMT le 21 mai 2010    
G2g, later all.
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175. Patrap 23:02 GMT le 21 mai 2010    
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176. MrstormX 23:02 GMT le 21 mai 2010    
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177. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 23:03 GMT le 21 mai 2010    
Quoting ElConando:


And QIUKSCAT is STILL nowhere to be found!!! GOSH!
the indians got it but its not accessable by the general public
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178. weatherwatcher12 23:04 GMT le 21 mai 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
Many people are pointing out an area in the SW Caribbean that models are suggesting development. That is an area of deep convection in the picture below.


Is this low that the the CMC is predicting, that area of convection?:


If it is it keeps it just symmetrically warm core and shallow warm core. It it makes it to the Caribbean it should be a good source of rain.
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179. Skyepony (Mod) 23:04 GMT le 21 mai 2010    
ply~ it's more sse of the blowout site, actually part of the surface spill is entrained in the forming eddy, which is the big warmer loop in the gulf that is about to close off, break free & then should drift wnw.

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180. MiamiHurricanes09 23:05 GMT le 21 mai 2010    
Quoting weatherwatcher12:

Is this low that the the CMC is predicting, that area of convection?:


If it is it keeps it just symmetrically warm core and shallow warm core. It it makes it to the Caribbean it should be a good source of rain.
Models making this strong enough to be named Bonnie.
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181. Patrap 23:06 GMT le 21 mai 2010    


Jindal questions spill response; Coast Guard official takes blame

After a helicopter tour with Coast Guard officials over miles of Terrebonne Parish coastline, Gov. Bobby Jindal called on BP and the federal government to act with more urgency.
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182. Patrap 23:07 GMT le 21 mai 2010    
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183. atmoaggie 23:08 GMT le 21 mai 2010    
Quoting Patrap:

From the looks of Dr. M's image, it appears Dr. Roffer has misplaced some oil...
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184. atmoaggie 23:11 GMT le 21 mai 2010    
Quoting Skyepony:
ply~ it's more sse of the blowout site, actually part of the surface spill is entrained in the forming eddy, which is the big warmer loop in the gulf that is about to close off, break free & then should drift wnw.


Just as weather models are suspect beyond a few days out, I suspect that may be off 6 days out. Already there is some of the current bypassing the loop, I expect more (maybe most?) will be by about the 27th.

Not sold that HyCOM is all that good that far out with a dynamic event like the gulf loop isolating an eddy.
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186. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 23:12 GMT le 21 mai 2010    

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187. MiamiHurricanes09 23:13 GMT le 21 mai 2010    
I think that is where the COC is at the moment.

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188. Skyepony (Mod) 23:15 GMT le 21 mai 2010    
pat~ that one doesn't show the show the oil in the loop current down the lat of Miami like the sat pic.
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189. MrstormX 23:15 GMT le 21 mai 2010    
Quoting altesticstorm10:
90L.INVEST

81% STD1 or TD1
80% STS Alex or TS Alex
60% TS Alex
20% Hurricane Alex


Seems pretty reasonable to you? Or not?



80% STD1 or TD1
75% STS Alex
60% TS Alex
10% Hurricane Alex (If that happens it will probably be a Vince like storm)
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190. doabarrelroll 23:15 GMT le 21 mai 2010    
Quoting altesticstorm10:
90L.INVEST

81% STD1 or TD1
80% STS Alex or TS Alex
60% TS Alex
20% Hurricane Alex


Seems pretty reasonable to you? Or not?



Nope your percentages dont total 100
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192. Cavin Rawlins 23:16 GMT le 21 mai 2010    
Quoting altesticstorm10:
90L.INVEST

81% STD1 or TD1
80% STS Alex or TS Alex
60% TS Alex
20% Hurricane Alex


Seems pretty reasonable to you? Or not?



How about (from your numbers)

80-85% Chance STD
75-80% Chance STS
60-75% Chance TS
20% Chance Hurricane Alex
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193. MiamiHurricanes09 23:16 GMT le 21 mai 2010    
Quoting altesticstorm10:
90L.INVEST

81% STD1 or TD1
80% STS Alex or TS Alex
60% TS Alex
20% Hurricane Alex


Seems pretty reasonable to you? Or not?



STD: 90%
TD: 10%

STS: 75%
TD: 25%

SH: 50%
H: 50%

***SH= Subtropical Hurricane
***H= Hurricane
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195. MrstormX 23:17 GMT le 21 mai 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
I think that is where the COC is at the moment.



No I don't think it is associated with any convection yet, look east about 100 miles.
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196. MiamiHurricanes09 23:17 GMT le 21 mai 2010    
Quoting doabarrelroll:


Nope your percentages dont total 100
Did you just have a dumb moment? LOL, they're not supposed to total 100.
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197. stormpetrol 23:18 GMT le 21 mai 2010    
While we wait on Invests and 90L , the situation with oil in the Gulf is dire in my opinion this has a worldwide effect that I don't think most realize to be honest, with very long term devastation to the marine life , environment and to people that make their living along the Gulf Coast , very very sad!
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198. Cavin Rawlins 23:18 GMT le 21 mai 2010    
Quoting Boca:
Love this site...am paid member for a few years and will continue to be BUT trying to follow these posts is really difficult. Anyone have a suggestion for maximizing this discussion area? I am totally frustrated. But then again if you have suggestions HOW WILL I KNOW?
Have a good weekend everyone.


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199. MiamiHurricanes09 23:19 GMT le 21 mai 2010    
Quoting StormW:


SW LOOP
I can't see it, what I did notice is the convection getting deeper and larger.
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200. Patrap 23:19 GMT le 21 mai 2010    
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