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Heaviest 1-day rain in Oklahoma City history; 92L fizzles
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 14:45 GMT le 15 juin 2010 +4
Oklahoma City's rainiest day in history brought rampaging floods to the city and surrounding areas yesterday, as widespread rain amounts of 8 - 11 inches deluged the city. Fortunately, no confirmed deaths or injuries have been blamed on the mayhem, though damage is extensive. Oklahoma City's Will Rogers Airport received 7.62" of rain yesterday, smashing the record for the rainiest day in city history. According to the National Climatic Data Center, the city's previous rainiest day occurred September 22, 1970, when 7.53 inches fell. Some rivers continue to rise due to all the rain, and the Canadian River east of downtown Oklahoma City is four feet over flood stage, with major flooding expected today. You can track the flooding using our wundermap with the USGS Flood layer turned on.


Figure 1. Radar-estimated precipitation for the period June 14 - 15, 2010, during the Oklahoma City floods. A large swath of 8 - 10 inches of rain (dark red colors) was indicated, from Oklahoma City northeastwards.

An inordinate number of major U.S. floods this year
We've had an inordinate number of severe floods in the U.S. so far this year. The worst was the May Tennessee flood, which killed 31 people--the highest death toll from a non-tropical cyclone flooding event in the U.S. since 1994, and the most devastating disaster in Tennessee since the Civil War. The Tennessee floods were rated as a 1000-year flood for Middle Tennessee, West Tennessee, South Central and Western Kentucky and northern Mississippi. Two-day rain totals in some areas were greater than 19 inches.Last Friday's disastrous flash flood in Albert Pike Recreation Area, Arkansas, killed twenty people. That flood was triggered by 8+ inches of rain that fell in just a few hours over the rugged mountains west of Hot Springs. And in March, record rains from a slow-moving and extremely wet Nor'easter triggered historic flooding in Rhode Island and Southeastern Massachusetts, with several rivers exceeding their 100-year flood levels. The 16.32" of rain that fell on Providence, Rhode Island, made March that city's wettest month in recorded history.

All of these flooding events were associated with airmasses though brought record-breaking warm temperatures to surrounding regions of the country. For example, during the overnight hours when the June 11 flood in Arkansas occurred, fifty airports in the Southern and Midwestern U.S. had their highest minimum temperatures on record. During the 1000-year flood in Tennessee, 51 warm minimum temperatures records were set in the eastern half of the U.S. on May 1, and 97 records on May 2. Rhode Island's record wettest March also happened to be its record warmest March. And the air mass that spawned yesterday's Oklahoma City floods set record warm minimum temperatures at 22 airports across the central and Eastern portions of the U.S. on Monday. All this is not surprising, since more moisture can evaporate into warmer air, making record-setting rainfall events more likely when record warm temperatures are present. The total number of airports in the U.S. considered for these comparisons is around 500, so we're talking about significant portions of the U.S. being exposed to these record-breaking warm airmasses this year. For the spring months of March - May, it was the 21st warmest such period in the 116-year record, according to the National Climatic Data Center. At the 500 or so largest airports in the U.S., daily high temperature records outnumbered low temperature records by about a factor 2.5, 1200 to 508. Record high minimums this spring outnumbered record low maximums by 1163 to 568. So far in June, record daily highs have outpaced record lows by 176 to 13, and record high minimums have outpaced record low maximums, 419 to 62.

Flooding and global warming
Groisman et al. (2004) found that in the U.S. during the 20th century, there was a 16% increase in cold season (October - April) "heavy" precipitation events (greater than 2 inches in one day), a 25% increase in "very heavy" precipitation events (greater than 4 inches in one day), and a 36% rise in "extreme" precipitation events (those in the 99.9% percentile--1 in 1000 events.) A sharp rise in extreme precipitation is what is predicted by global warming models in the scientific literature Hegerl et al. (2004). According the landmark 2009 U.S. Climate Impact Report from the U.S. Global Change Research Program, "the amount of rain falling in the heaviest downpours has increased approximately 20 percent on average in the past century, and this trend is very likely to continue, with the largest increases in the wettest places." Most of this increase came since 1970, due to the approximate 1°F increase in U.S. average temperature since 1970. That 1°F increase in temperature means that there is 4% more moisture in the atmosphere, on average. According to the 2007 IPCC report, water vapor in the global atmosphere has increased by about 5% over the 20th century, and 4% since 1970. Satellite measurements (Trenberth et al., 2005) have shown a 1.3% per decade increase in water vapor over the global oceans since 1988. Santer et al. (2007) used a climate model to study the relative contribution of natural and human-caused effects on increasing water vapor, and concluded that this increase was "primarily due to human-caused increases in greenhouse gases". This was also the conclusion of Willet et al. (2007).

Dr. Joe Romm over at climateprogress.org has an excellent interview with Dr. Kevin Trenberth of the National Center of Atmospheric Research on the subject of heavy precipitation events and global warming. Dr. Trenberth is the world's leading expert on water vapor in the atmosphere, and he comments that "since the 1970s, on average, there's about a 4% increase in water vapor over the Atlantic Ocean, and when that gets caught into a storm, it invigorates the storm so the storm itself changes, and that can easily double the influence of that water vapor and so you can get up to an 8% increase, straight from the amount of water vapor that's sort of hanging around in the atmosphere. This is reasonably well established." Dr. Trenberth further comments, "Now the physical cause for this is very much related to the water vapor that flows into these storms. And these kinds of storms, well all storms for that matter, reach out on average--this is very much a gross average--about 4 times the radius or 16 times the area of the region that's precipitating, the rain. And for these kinds of storms a lot of the moisture is coming out of the sub-tropical Atlantic and even the tropical Atlantic; some of it comes out of the Gulf of Mexico. And so the moisture actually travels about 2000 miles where it gets caught up in these storms and then it rains down. And the key thing is, that in the tropical and sub-tropical Atlantic the sea temperatures are at very high levels and in fact they're the highest on record at the moment right in the eastern tropical Atlantic. It's going to be interesting to see what that does for this hurricane season coming up."

We cannot say that any of this year's flooding disasters were definitely due to global warming, and part of the reason for this year's numerous U.S. flooding disasters is simply bad luck. However, higher temperatures do cause an increased chance of heavy precipitation events, and it is likely that the flooding in some of this year's U.S. flooding disasters were significantly enhanced by the presence of more water vapor in the air due to global warming. We can expect a large increase in flooding disasters in the U.S. and worldwide if the climate continues to warm as expected.


Figure 2. A portable classroom building from a nearby high school floats past submerged cars on I-24 near Nashville, TN on May 1, 2010. One person died in the flooding in this region of I-24. Roughly 200 - 250 vehicles got submerged on this section of I-24, according to wunderphotographer laughingjester, who was a tow truck operator called in to clear out the stranded vehicles.

Funding issues threaten hundreds of streamgages
According to the USGS web site, river stage data from 292 streamgages has been discontinued recently, or is scheduled for elimination in the near future due to budget cuts. In Tennessee, 16 streamflow gages with records going back up to 85 years will stop collecting data on July 1 because of budget cuts. Five gages in Arkansas are slated for elimination this year. Hardest hit will be Pennsylvania, which will lose 30 of its 258 streamgages. With over 50 people dead from two flooding disasters already this year, now hardly seems to be the time to be skimping on monitoring river flow levels by cutting funding for hundreds of streamgages. These gages are critical for proper issuance of flood warnings to people in harm's way. Furthermore, most of the northern 2/3 of the U.S. can expect a much higher incidence of record flooding in coming decades. This will be driven by two factors: increased urban development causing faster run-off, and an increase in very heavy precipitation events due to global warming.


Figure 3. Streamgages that have been discontinued or are being considered for discontinuation or for conversion from continuous record discharge to stage-only stations. Funds for these 292 threatened streamgages are from the U.S. Geological Survey and other Federal, State, Tribal, and local agencies. For those streamgages that have already been discontinued, extensive efforts were made to find another funding source; however, when no funding was made available the streamgages had to be discontinued. If you have questions about specific streamgages, click on the state of concern on the USGS web page of threatened stream gages.

Dry air disrupting 92L
Invest 92L, which yesterday was a remarkably well-developed African tropical wave for so early in the season, has fizzled, due to dry air. Infrared satellite loops show the disturbance has lost nearly all of its heavy thunderstorms, and water vapor satellite loops show that the storm has wrapped a large amount of dry air to the west into the storm's center of circulation. With the storm continuing to track west-northwest to northwest into dryer air, the prospects for 92L developing into a tropical depression appear dim. With wind shear expected to rise from its current levels of 10 - 15 knots to 20 - 25 knots on Wednesday, the combination of shear and dry air should be able to pretty much destroy 92L on Wednesday. Shear values will likely increase to 30 - 40 knots by Friday, when 92L will move into the northern Lesser Antilles Islands. There is a window of opportunity this afternoon for 92L to fend off the dry air and organize into a tropical depression. One advantage the storm has it that it has developed a well-formed surface circulation. The low-level center of circulation is easy to spot on satellite imagery, since wind shear due to strong upper-level winds from the west have exposed the center to view. The National Hurricane Center is giving 92L a moderate (30% chance) of developing into a tropical depression by Thursday morning. I would put the chances a bit lower, at 20%. Even if 92L does develop into a tropical depression, it is highly unlikely to cause any trouble for the Lesser Antilles Islands, since wind shear and dry air will probably destroy the system before it can reach the islands.


Figure 4. Morning satellite image of Invest 92L. The low-level circulation is easy to spot on satellite imagery, since wind shear due to strong upper-level winds from the west have exposed the center to view. A small clump of heavy thunderstorms is located just east of the exposed center of circulation.

Elsewhere in the tropics
None of the reliable computer models is calling for tropical cyclone development in the Atlantic over the next seven days. There is a small swirl of low clouds visible in satellite imagery at 8N, 22W, just off the coast of Africa, associated with a tropical wave. This circulation is under wind shear of about 20 knots, which is probably too high for such a small circulation to survive in.

Oil spill wind and ocean current forecast
Light, predominantly southwesterly to westerly winds of 5 - 10 knots will blow in the northern Gulf of Mexico most of this week, according to the latest marine forecast from NOAA. The more westerly wind direction is expected to maintain a slow (1/2 mph) eastward-moving surface ocean current that will transport oil eastwards along the Florida Panhandle coast, according to the latest ocean current forecast from NOAA's HYCOM model. These winds and currents may be capable of transporting oil as far east as Panama City, Florida, by the end of the week. Oil will continue to threaten the coasts of Louisiana, Alabama, and Mississippi for the remainder of the week as well, according to the latest trajectory forecasts from NOAA and the State of Louisiana. The long range 8 - 16 day forecast from the GFS model indicates a typical summertime light wind regime, with winds mostly blowing out of the south or southeast. This wind regime will likely keep oil close to the coastal areas that have already seen oil impacts over the past two weeks.

NOAA has lauched a great new interactive mapping tool that allows one to overlay wind forecasts, ocean current forecasts, oil location, etc.

Oil spill resources
My post, What a hurricane would do the Deepwater Horizon oil spill
My post on the Southwest Florida "Forbidden Zone" where surface oil will rarely go
My post on what oil might do to a hurricane
NOAA has lauched a great new interactive mapping tool that allows one to overlay wi
nd forecasts, ocean current forecasts, oil location, etc.
Gulf Oil Blog from the UGA Department of Marine Sciences
Oil Spill Academic Task Force
University of South Florida Ocean Circulation Group oil spill forecasts
ROFFS Deepwater Horizon page
Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) imagery from the University of Miami

"Hurricane Haven" airing again this afternoon
Tune into another airing of my live Internet radio show, "Hurricane Haven", at 4pm EDT today. Listeners will be able to call in and ask questions. The call in number is 415-983-2634, or you can post a question in the comments area on my blog. You can also email the questions to me today before the show: jmasters@wunderground.com. Be sure to include "Hurricane Haven question" in the subject line. Some topics I'll cover today on the show:

1) Why did 92L die so quickly?
2) Is the formation of 92L a harbinger of an active hurricane season?
3) What damage could a hurricane do to oil drilling platforms and underwater pipes at the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico?

Today's show, will be 1/2 hour, and you can tune in at http://www.wunderground.com/wxradio/wubroadcast.h tml. The show will be recorded and stored as a podcast.

Jeff Masters
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2351. AllStar17 13:48 GMT le 16 juin 2010    
Quoting helove2trac:
i want dr steve lyons back


A lot of people do. He did a good, informative updates.
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2352. IKE 13:48 GMT le 16 juin 2010    
Quoting helove2trac:
i want dr steve lyons back


Problem is, when he was on there, TWC gave him about 2 minutes to do the east-PAC and Atlantic.
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2353. AllStar17 13:49 GMT le 16 juin 2010    
Quoting IKE:


Problem is, when he was on there, TWC gave him about 2 minutes to do the east-PAC and Atlantic.


No kidding. At least when a storm was near land, he got more time.
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2354. IKE 13:49 GMT le 16 juin 2010    
I agree though...I liked Dr. Lyons and sorry he's not at TWC anymore.
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2355. helove2trac 13:49 GMT le 16 juin 2010    
Slow down 92L we see you coming
2356. AllStar17 13:49 GMT le 16 juin 2010    
Quoting IKE:


Problem is, when he was on there, TWC gave him about 2 minutes to do the east-PAC and Atlantic.


Yesterday, they gave Rick Knabb all of 15-30 seconds for an update.
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2357. MiamiHurricanes09 13:50 GMT le 16 juin 2010    
Quoting Hurricanes101:
One big problem for 92L is it is moving too fast
Lately it's been moving towards the west with a slight hint of northward motion at about 15-20 miles per hour, definitely moving quickly.
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2358. CyclonicVoyage 13:50 GMT le 16 juin 2010    
Quoting Hurricanes101:
One big problem for 92L is it is moving too fast


Oh, there's many. lol. I thought it would make some more substantial gains last night but it didn't. It's chances have dwindled significantly today.
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2359. Drakoen 13:51 GMT le 16 juin 2010    
Exposed low. Dry air and shear impeding the system's development:

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2360. helove2trac 13:51 GMT le 16 juin 2010    
I mean he was there when John Hope was there so there was much confident and respect for him
2361. IKE 13:51 GMT le 16 juin 2010    
I agree with these models on track. That looks right where 92L or it's remnants are headed...

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2362. IKE 13:52 GMT le 16 juin 2010    
Quoting AllStar17:


Yesterday, they gave Rick Knabb all of 15-30 seconds for an update.


That's ridiculous.
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2363. tropicaltank 13:52 GMT le 16 juin 2010    
It almost appears to be avoiding the shear,following the pathway of least resistance.
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2364. AllStar17 13:52 GMT le 16 juin 2010    
Quoting IKE:
I agree with these models on track. That looks right where 92L or it's remnants are headed...



If it's remnants, then I'd be more inclined to agree with the BAMS and BAMM
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2365. CyclonicVoyage 13:52 GMT le 16 juin 2010    
Quoting IKE:
I agree with these models on track. That looks right where 92L or it's remnants are headed...



I still think the remnants will hang just east of PR.
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2366. cg2916 13:53 GMT le 16 juin 2010    
Miami, what are your current chances for 92L?
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2367. hurricane23 13:54 GMT le 16 juin 2010    
Dont see a closed surface circulation with this system just an open wave now in my view. Should move into 30-40 knots of wind shear within the next 24 hours.
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2368. MiamiHurricanes09 13:54 GMT le 16 juin 2010    
Quoting IKE:
I agree with these models on track. That looks right where 92L or it's remnants are headed...

I sticking with the BAMS for the time being.
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2369. stillwaiting 13:54 GMT le 16 juin 2010    
sorry scott,wrong scott,last night a "scott" was on here teeln everyone he had "friends" at the NWS....
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2370. PensacolaDoug 13:55 GMT le 16 juin 2010    
JB this morn.


WEDNESDAY 8:00 AM

HEY I WILL CHARGE YOU A DIME TO COOL THE EARTH, INSTEAD OF A DOLLAR

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0610/38563.html

I guess the idea is that the climate bill would charge every American one dollar a day and this would help cool the earth. Well being the kind of person I am, I will only charge you a dime. How about that! In fact, my introductory offer is this: Send me no money now If in the next 18 months the earth does not cool from where it is, then you can go with their plan and I will have no qualms about it. After all if their ideas are right, and co2 is on the increase, why should the temp not increase, yet alone as I say, decrease

And how about all those "green jobs" Has anyone taken a look at what is going on in Spain, where the government dumped all the money into Green Jobs. Go take a look at that miracle.

So the Joe Bastardi offer on climate is this. Send me no money now. I predict a big decrease in the earths temps over the next 18 months,. In addition arctic sea ice will roar back and next summers melt season will be the smallest in over a decade and that will not only get back to normal by the winter of 2012, but actually spoke above normal ( against 30 year means) If all this comes out, then you can send me the dime, since my plan would be cooling the earth.

On second thought, save your dime.. you will need it with this crew of bait and switchers, because they will taking your money anyway, and in this case its for a sham and a scam.

Speaking of ...never mind, I dont want to rile TPC but 92L obviously has, and has had a closed rotary circulation. Now that convection has roared back, shouldnt they be upgrading this to a depression. After all that is their definition, closed rotary circulation, central dense overcast. What could be the problem. The water is 29 C, its a 15 north. Maybe we need water of 21C at 40 north ( grace last year) The point is their inconsistency shows with systems like this. There is no way, after lowering this to a low chance, they will upgrade even though any person with one lick of common sense knows the presentation this morning is one of a depression. Its almost like the top dissipated yesterday, so everyone could see the vivid rotation, and then set them up for today. I have no change with this.. whether they upgrade or not, its still going for the big islands, though if it survives those, its a problem for the gulf ( or perhaps Florida) next week. The argument now though is how do you justify some of the nonsense in the middle of nowhere upgrades and yet something like this is not classified?


Between Cap and Trade and things like this, you wonder
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2371. leo305 13:55 GMT le 16 juin 2010    
Quoting hurricane23:
Dont see a closed surface circulation with this system just an open wave now in my view. Should move into 30-40 knots of westerly wind shear within the next 24 hours.


there is a clear surface low.. and the low is embedded in the convection.. you can see the convection spinning..
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2372. Hurricanes101 13:55 GMT le 16 juin 2010    
Quoting CyclonicVoyage:


Oh, there's many. lol. I thought it would make some more substantial gains last night but it didn't. It's chances have dwindled significantly today.


I dont know about the chances dwindling that significantly
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2373. helove2trac 13:56 GMT le 16 juin 2010    
Everytime I think we got something going the killer wind shows its face LOL
2374. CaneWarning 13:56 GMT le 16 juin 2010    
Quoting IKE:
I agree with these models on track. That looks right where 92L or it's remnants are headed...



Lots of land interaction won't help it any.
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2375. tropicaltank 13:56 GMT le 16 juin 2010    
I wish we still had John Hope.
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2376. Caribbeanislands101 13:57 GMT le 16 juin 2010    
Good Morning!
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2377. Caribbeanislands101 13:57 GMT le 16 juin 2010    
Quoting tropicaltank:
I wish we still had John Hope.

me too, best forecaster by far!
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2379. helove2trac 13:58 GMT le 16 juin 2010    
Yea John Hope was the best
2380. MiamiHurricanes09 13:59 GMT le 16 juin 2010    
Quoting cg2916:
Miami, what are your current chances for 92L?
Shear right now is bad and as Drakoen just pointed out the circulation has become visible and the thunderstorms are just being blown away. If it can keep a circulation once it gets into the Caribbean it just might develop, but I don't see any development in the next 48 hours.
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2381. Gatorstorm 13:59 GMT le 16 juin 2010    
Is John Hope still alive?
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2382. cg2916 14:00 GMT le 16 juin 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
Shear right now is bad and as Drakoen just pointed out the circulation has become visible and the thunderstorms are just being blown away. If it can keep a circulation once it gets into the Caribbean it just might develop, but I don't see any development in the next 48 hours.


Got it.
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2383. Caribbeanislands101 14:00 GMT le 16 juin 2010    
Quoting Gatorstorm:
Is John Hope still alive?

No, he passed away, a huge loss.
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2384. IKE 14:00 GMT le 16 juin 2010    
Quoting PensacolaDoug:
JB this morn.


WEDNESDAY 8:00 AM

HEY I WILL CHARGE YOU A DIME TO COOL THE EARTH, INSTEAD OF A DOLLAR

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0610/38563.html

I guess the idea is that the climate bill would charge every American one dollar a day and this would help cool the earth. Well being the kind of person I am, I will only charge you a dime. How about that! In fact, my introductory offer is this: Send me no money now If in the next 18 months the earth does not cool from where it is, then you can go with their plan and I will have no qualms about it. After all if their ideas are right, and co2 is on the increase, why should the temp not increase, yet alone as I say, decrease

And how about all those "green jobs" Has anyone taken a look at what is going on in Spain, where the government dumped all the money into Green Jobs. Go take a look at that miracle.

So the Joe Bastardi offer on climate is this. Send me no money now. I predict a big decrease in the earths temps over the next 18 months,. In addition arctic sea ice will roar back and next summers melt season will be the smallest in over a decade and that will not only get back to normal by the winter of 2012, but actually spoke above normal ( against 30 year means) If all this comes out, then you can send me the dime, since my plan would be cooling the earth.

On second thought, save your dime.. you will need it with this crew of bait and switchers, because they will taking your money anyway, and in this case its for a sham and a scam.

Speaking of ...never mind, I dont want to rile TPC but 92L obviously has, and has had a closed rotary circulation. Now that convection has roared back, shouldnt they be upgrading this to a depression. After all that is their definition, closed rotary circulation, central dense overcast. What could be the problem. The water is 29 C, its a 15 north. Maybe we need water of 21C at 40 north ( grace last year) The point is their inconsistency shows with systems like this. There is no way, after lowering this to a low chance, they will upgrade even though any person with one lick of common sense knows the presentation this morning is one of a depression. Its almost like the top dissipated yesterday, so everyone could see the vivid rotation, and then set them up for today. I have no change with this.. whether they upgrade or not, its still going for the big islands, though if it survives those, its a problem for the gulf ( or perhaps Florida) next week. The argument now though is how do you justify some of the nonsense in the middle of nowhere upgrades and yet something like this is not classified?


Between Cap and Trade and things like this, you wonder


Hammering the NHC. The NHC is run by the Government. People have lost faith in the Government, including the NHC.

Sad, but true. Maybe Bastardi is right about it being a depression. I don't personally care if it is or isn't at this stage, but he could be right.
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2385. helove2trac 14:00 GMT le 16 juin 2010    
Oh my John Hope has been RIP for awhile now
2386. stillwaiting 14:00 GMT le 16 juin 2010    
Give knabb a break,he hasn't even done any forecasting/updates for a TC since he started as the tropical update....
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2387. hurricanejunky 14:01 GMT le 16 juin 2010    


Daily update from...check my blog for the source...
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2388. hurricane23 14:04 GMT le 16 juin 2010    
Visible sat imagery this morning in my view does not show a closed surface circulation but its really tough to be sure with with convection covering up the lower clouds. Took a peak at AMSU and it only showed easterly winds.There wont be much of an impact on the islands which is whats important here. Very hostile environment just ahead.

adrian
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2389. Patrap 14:04 GMT le 16 juin 2010    
JB..should be a Wu blogger.

Politics and weather..

They go together Like Oil and Vinegar.


But the BP Money flows thru Him Like water thru a Work Cooler.

Id say hes a tad biased to Big Oil and thus the anti AGW thing he dances with

LOL
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2390. CyclonicVoyage 14:05 GMT le 16 juin 2010    
I am a man of my word so here's the 20 bucks

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2391. cg2916 14:05 GMT le 16 juin 2010    
Guys, 92L is done at least for now. Let's go over to the EPAC where we have a two invests, one a 50% chance and the other a 60% chance.



92E



93E
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2392. IKE 14:06 GMT le 16 juin 2010    
I'd say it's in the heavy shear now...

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2393. stillwaiting 14:06 GMT le 16 juin 2010    
IMO 92L was a deppression twice!!!!,sat night-sunday afternoon and from about 2am tues morning-now......
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2394. Drakoen 14:08 GMT le 16 juin 2010    
92L clearly has a well-defined low pressure center on the western edge of the convection.
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2395. MiamiHurricanes09 14:09 GMT le 16 juin 2010    
Quoting Drakoen:
92L clearly has a well-defined low pressure center on the western edge of the convection.
Yeah, It can be viewed using visible satellite imagery or microwave.
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2396. scottsvb 14:09 GMT le 16 juin 2010    
Quoting hurricane23:
Visible sat imagery this morning in my view does not show a closed surface circulation but its really tough to be sure with with convection covering up the lower clouds. Took a peak at AMSU and it only showed easterly winds.There wont be much of an impact on the islands which is whats important here. Very hostile environment just ahead.

adrian


Your correct...this is in the midlevels. You can also see clearly just below 92L llclouds moving WNW instead of NNE into the system.
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2397. cg2916 14:09 GMT le 16 juin 2010    
92E:
EP, 92, 2010061612, , BEST, 0, 161N, 1054W, 25, 1007, DB, 34, NEQ,

93E:
EP, 93, 2010061612, , BEST, 0, 146N, 953W, 25, 1007, DB, 34, NEQ,
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2399. MiamiHurricanes09 14:10 GMT le 16 juin 2010    
92L's ASCAT should be out within 30 minutes, let's hope it's a complete pass of the COC.
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2400. Hurricanes101 14:11 GMT le 16 juin 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
92L's ASCAT should be out within 30 minutes, let's hope it's a complete pass of the COC.


I think that is part of the problem here, I dont think we have had 1 shot from ASCAT or Windsat that has shown the entire circulation of 92L
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2401. MiamiHurricanes09 14:11 GMT le 16 juin 2010    
Quoting scottsvb:


Your correct...this is in the midlevels. You can also see clearly just below 92L llclouds moving WNW instead of NNE into the system.
Do you need glasses? It is completely evident that there is a closed surface low, it can be viewed using satellite imagery or microwave data. ASCAT should be in within 30 minutes, we shall see...
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