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92L very disorganized, but a long-range threat to develop
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 14:05 GMT le 18 juin 2010 +2
Invest 92L, which yesterday became severely disrupted by wind shear and dry air, is generating a large area of rain showers over the northern Lesser Antilles Islands today. Infrared satellite loops show that the tops of the thunderstorms associated with 92L have warmed in recent hours, and these thunderstorms are weak and disorganized. Water vapor satellite loops show that there is a large amount of dry air in the storm's environment, and this dry air is getting sucked into 92L's thunderstorms, where the dry air is sinking to the surface and creating surface "arc clouds"--arc-shaped clouds that spread out away from 92L's thunderstorms. With wind shear at 20 - 30 knots today, no signs of a surface circulation, and plenty of dry air around, 92L is not a threat to develop into a tropical depression today or Saturday. The National Hurricane Center is giving 92L a low (20% chance) of developing into a tropical depression by Sunday morning. I put the chances at 1%. You can track the progress of 92L today by looking at our wundermap for the region, with weather stations turned on. Antigua recorded sustaiined winds of 20 mph this morning from 92L.

A slight chance 92L could develop next week
Today and Saturday, 92L will encounter 20 - 40 knots of wind shear as it plows though a region of strong upper-level winds associated with the subtropical jet stream. The disturbance will also encounter the mountainous terrain of Hispaniola. These factors should significantly disrupt the disturbance. If there's anything left of 92L by Sunday, when it will be over eastern Cuba, the storm may have the opportunity to develop. At that time, 92L will have passed through the core of the subtropical jet stream and entered a region of lower shear (15 - 20 knots.) For the latest round of 00Z and 06Z model runs, the HWRF is the only reliable model calling for 92L to develop; that model predicts that 92L will organize into a tropical depression on Wednesday over the Lower Florida Keys, and head into the Gulf of Mexico. The obstacles that 92L must overcome to do this are great, and I give 92L just a 10% chance of eventually developing into a tropical depression by Wednesday next week.


Figure 1. Morning satellite image of Invest 92L. Dry air is getting sucked into 92L's thunderstorms, where the more dense dry air creates downdrafts. When these downdrafts hit the surface, the air spreads out creating surface "arc clouds"--arc-shaped clouds that spread out away from 92L's thunderstorms. This puts stable air into the storm's low level environment and blocks inflow of moist air into the core of the storm, weakening it. These arc clouds are a telltale sign that dry air is significantly disrupting the disturbance.

Elsewhere in the tropics
The NOGAPS model is calling for a tropical disturbance to form off the coast of Nicaragua on Monday and push ashore over that country on Tuesday, bringing heavy rains.

Wind and ocean current forecast for the BP oil disaster
Light and variable winds less than 10 knots will blow in the northern Gulf of Mexico for the next five days, according to the latest marine forecast from NOAA. The winds will tend to have a westerly component through Saturday, which will maintain a threat of oil hitting beaches as far east as Panama City, Florida, according to the latest trajectory forecasts from NOAA and the State of Louisiana. Ocean current forecasts for early next week show a weakening of the eastward-flowing currents along the Florida Panhandle, which would limit the eastward movement of oil so that it would not move past Panama City. The long range 8 - 16 day forecast from the GFS model indicates a typical summertime light wind regime, with winds mostly blowing out of the south or southeast. This wind regime will likely keep oil close to the coastal areas that have already seen oil impacts over the past two weeks.

Resources for the BP oil disaster
My post, What a hurricane would do the Deepwater Horizon oil spill
My post on the Southwest Florida "Forbidden Zone" where surface oil will rarely go
My post on what oil might do to a hurricane
NOAA's new interactive mapping tool allows one to overlay wind and ocean current forecasts, oil locations, etc.
Gulf Oil Blog from the UGA Department of Marine Sciences
Oil Spill Academic Task Force
University of South Florida Ocean Circulation Group oil spill forecasts
ROFFS Deepwater Horizon page
Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) imagery from the University of Miami

I'll have an update on Saturday.

Jeff Masters
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951. MiamiHurricanes09 22:32 GMT le 18 juin 2010    
Quoting IKE:
Looks like a broad area of low pressure.
Yup, the isobar is open in the southern quadrant.
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952. StormSurgeon 22:33 GMT le 18 juin 2010    
Quoting IKE:
GFS done latched on....not strong but, that may not mean much when it comes to the GFS.



Since when can a Poodle type? Hey IKE.
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953. IKE 22:34 GMT le 18 juin 2010    
At 180 hours...92L is not going to die unless it....(a)stays over land or (b)mountains destroy it.....

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954. weathersp 22:34 GMT le 18 juin 2010    
My Radar: click to enlarge..
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955. superpete 22:34 GMT le 18 juin 2010    
Quoting kmanislander:


At its current speed of 15 knots ( approx 17 MPH )it would take about 36 hours to get to 75 degrees West assuming a constant speed and a straight line. Factor in deviations and varying speed I would round off somewhere between 36 and 46 hours. Add another 35 hours to reach us at 81 West

The TWD had a speed of 10 to 15 knots and I have used the high end number. Slower means more time obviously.
Good evening Kman/ Stormwatcher. Also in 92L's possible future path is very warm water starting just south & east of Jamaica.
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956. IKE 22:35 GMT le 18 juin 2010    
Quoting StormSurgeon:


Since when can a Poodle type? Hey IKE.


LOL...bless his heart he's dead. Drowned on New Years Day in the lake I live on.
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959. stormpetrol 22:36 GMT le 18 juin 2010    
Looking at 92L on the visible looks it has taken a WSW jog again, Its avoiding the strongest shear like a plague, this critter means business down the road in my opinion.
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960. MiamiHurricanes09 22:36 GMT le 18 juin 2010    
Quoting IKE:
At 180 hours...92L is not going to die unless it....(a)stays over land or (b)mountains destroy it.....

Hmmm, closed isobar, 1009 millibars, GFS forecasting 92L to become a TD.
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961. IKE 22:37 GMT le 18 juin 2010    
Quoting RecordSeason:
Um...

I was going to post this earlier, but yeah...

I see a disturbing trend with 92L on LSU's low clouds product.


What do you mean?
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962. Levi32 22:38 GMT le 18 juin 2010    
Quoting F4PHANTOM:
Isn't that if it follows a WNW-NW track? If it continues W, GFS model would be incorrect.


Yeah which means the track would be further south. Right now it's still iffy on whether there will be any significant weakness in the ridge that could pull this north if it makes a due westward run at the Yucatan.
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963. centex 22:38 GMT le 18 juin 2010    
I like all this track debate. It will be significant weather event wherever it goes.
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964. IKE 22:38 GMT le 18 juin 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
Hmmm, closed isobar, 1009 millibars, GFS forecasting 92L to become a TD.


I've seen the GFS show hurricanes at 1004mb's. It's not great on strength.
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965. purplesuede 22:39 GMT le 18 juin 2010    
After a season is over, does the NHC release tropical cyclone reports for invests? I think I read one once, but have been unable to locate any since. I'm just curious because it might help give insight into the NHC's thought process on designating names and numbers for storms.
966. raggpr 22:39 GMT le 18 juin 2010    
Quoting weathersp:
Quoting CaicosRetiredSailor:
My Radar: click to enlarge..


where did you get that radar from? is that a computer program that can be downloaded?
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967. MiamiHurricanes09 22:39 GMT le 18 juin 2010    
Quoting stormpetrol:
Looking at 92L on the visible looks it has taken a WSW jog again, Its avoiding the strongest shear like a plague, this critter means business down the road in my opinion.
Not only is it being smart in going through more favorable conditions but it is also avoiding land interaction, if it is true that it jogged WSW as I have not seen the satellite yet.
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968. stormwatcherCI 22:40 GMT le 18 juin 2010    
Quoting superpete:
Good evening Kman/ Stormwatcher. Also in 92L's possible future path is very warm water starting just south & east of Jamaica.
Also very deep.
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969. IKE 22:40 GMT le 18 juin 2010    
I guess you can call me wishcasting, but...I'm rooting for 92L to at least make it to a TD....without hurting anyone.

It deserves it based on longevity and the fight it in!
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970. MiamiHurricanes09 22:41 GMT le 18 juin 2010    
Quoting stormpetrol:
Looking at 92L on the visible looks it has taken a WSW jog again, Its avoiding the strongest shear like a plague, this critter means business down the road in my opinion.
Yup, I'm seeing a WSW job on RGB.
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971. MiamiHurricanes09 22:41 GMT le 18 juin 2010    
Quoting IKE:


I've seen the GFS show hurricanes at 1004mb's. It's not great on strength.
LOL.
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972. Levi32 22:41 GMT le 18 juin 2010    
3rd run in a row out in the Atlantic:

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973. MiamiHurricanes09 22:42 GMT le 18 juin 2010    
92L firing convection once more in the far western quadrant around where the circulation is.
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974. IKE 22:43 GMT le 18 juin 2010    
Quoting Levi32:
3rd run in a row out in the Atlantic:



Give it a week folks. I think the season is about to get going.

*note:I'm an amateur and could be wrong*
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975. MiamiHurricanes09 22:43 GMT le 18 juin 2010    
Quoting Levi32:
3rd run in a row out in the Atlantic:

I know what's your point by showing that but it's still 324 hours out, lol.
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976. Levi32 22:43 GMT le 18 juin 2010    
Two....lol.

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977. cg2916 22:44 GMT le 18 juin 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
92L firing convection once more in the far western quadrant around where the circulation is.


Do you expect another show tonight?
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978. Levi32 22:44 GMT le 18 juin 2010    
My point....is to show model support for what I think is the real kick-off to the hurricane season that we will be seeing during the next 3-4 weeks.
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979. cg2916 22:45 GMT le 18 juin 2010    
Quoting Levi32:
Two....lol.



No, GFS, no! Bad model, bad model!
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980. stormpetrol 22:45 GMT le 18 juin 2010    
Quoting IKE:
I guess you can call me wishcasting, but...I'm rooting for 92L to at least make it to a TD....without hurting anyone.

It deserves it based on longevity and the fight it in!

You know I never thought I would say this but I agree with ya even if we In the Caymans are in the line of fire, we need the rain so bad, the heat is almost unbearable, 110-115 degree heat index everyday, A TD/ or minimal TS would provide much needed relief.
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981. MiamiHurricanes09 22:45 GMT le 18 juin 2010    
Quoting IKE:


Give it a week folks. I think the season is about to get going.

*note:I'm an amateur and could be wrong*
I'm nowhere near an amateur but I agree with you.
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983. cg2916 22:46 GMT le 18 juin 2010    
Quoting IKE:


Give it a week folks. I think the season is about to get going.

*note:I'm an amateur and could be wrong*


Heck, I'm even more of an amateur, and some people still trust me (to an extent).
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984. MiamiHurricanes09 22:46 GMT le 18 juin 2010    
Quoting cg2916:


Do you expect another show tonight?
Not like yesterday's but yes.
Quoting Levi32:
Two....lol.

Lol.
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985. StormSurgeon 22:46 GMT le 18 juin 2010    
Quoting IKE:


LOL...bless his heart he's dead. Drowned on New Years Day in the lake I live on.


Now I feel awful, sorry.
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986. BaltOCane 22:48 GMT le 18 juin 2010    
Quoting Roary:
ike the season is a ticking time bomb, when it ignites, it'll all come crashing down, i fear to say, :(


In the financial sector, they call that the "bubble bursting". And it's a really big bubble. Just need the one catalist to pop it...

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987. cg2916 22:49 GMT le 18 juin 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
Not like yesterday's but yes.Lol.


Enough to keep it alive for tomorrow?
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989. FLWeatherFreak91 22:49 GMT le 18 juin 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
I'm more than an amateur and I agree with you.
Ah. What are your credentials?
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990. cg2916 22:50 GMT le 18 juin 2010    
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991. superpete 22:50 GMT le 18 juin 2010    
Quoting stormpetrol:

You know I never thought I would say this but I agree with ya even if we In the Caymans are in the line of fire, we need the rain so bad, the heat is almost unbearable, 110-115 degree heat index everyday, A TD/ or minimal TS would provide much needed relief.

Stormpetrol- That & I also just planted new turf yesterday..need the rain!
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992. MiamiHurricanes09 22:51 GMT le 18 juin 2010    
Quoting FLWeatherFreak91:
Ah. What are your credentials?
13 year old teenager that likes tropical meteorology. :)
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993. Levi32 22:54 GMT le 18 juin 2010    
Quoting Roary:
levi look at the position of the rideg during the first of july, classic. would any of thsoe storms be able to head on out to sea with that type of pattern expected for early july?


Not impossible for storms to recurve. A ridge that big will always have periodic weaknesses. However, it is a very west-favoring pattern.
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994. aspectre 22:55 GMT le 18 juin 2010    
FLWeatherFreak91 "Notice the highest temps are right in the vicinity of the oil... hmmm"
525 cg2916 "The reason is because oil reduces evaporation, so there isn't any evaporative cooling. So, even though SSTs are warm, they might as well be cooler, because hurricanes need that exra evaporation"

A TropicalCyclone should not have any difficulty with skimming a microns-thick film off the surface to gain access to the warm waters below. 1000microns equals 1millimetre.
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996. MrstormX 22:57 GMT le 18 juin 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
13 year old teenager that likes tropical meteorology. :)


Ohh boy, and here I thought you were 14 lol.
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997. MiamiHurricanes09 22:57 GMT le 18 juin 2010    
Quoting MrstormX:


Ohh boy, and here I thought you were 14 lol.
Lol, close enough.
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998. cyclonekid 22:58 GMT le 18 juin 2010    
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1000. FLWeatherFreak91 23:00 GMT le 18 juin 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
13 year old teenager that likes tropical meteorology. :)
Well, that was me too so I got nothing against you, but that's not quite "experience."
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