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Alex may head north to Texas or Louisiana
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 18:36 GMT le 27 juin 2010 +5
Tropical Depression Alex has held together fairly well during its passage over Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula, and stands poised to re-intensify back into a tropical storm once it emerges from the coast tonight. Alex brought heavy rains to northern Honduras, Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula, and Belize over the weekend. It was not a good beach day in Cozumel yesterday, as 9.25" of rain fell. Cancun received 2.05" over the weekend, and Belize City received 4.57". Satellite loops show that Alex's heavy thunderstorms are mostly gone near the center, though there are some impressive bands of precipitation well away from the center. There is an upper-level high pressure system a few hundred miles west of Alex, and the clockwise flow air around this high is bringing upper-level winds out of the northwest of about 5 knots over the storm, contributing to the 5 knots of wind shear observed in this afternoon's wind shear analysis from the University of Wisconsin's CIMSS group. Sea Surface Temperatures are very warm, 29 - 30°C, and dry air is currently not a problem for Alex.


Figure 1. Afternoon satellite image of Alex.

Forecast for Alex: which model should you trust?
While the track forecast for Alex today through Monday is fairly well-assured, the longer range forecast has become highly uncertain. An increasing number of our reliable models are now indicating Alex may take a more northerly track beginning on Tuesday, with possible landfall on the Texas coast near Galveston on Friday (according to the 8am run of the GFS model) or into western Louisiana on Wednesday (the 8am run of the Canadian model.) The key question remains how Alex will react to the trough of low pressure expected to swing down over the Eastern U.S. on Monday and Tuesday. Most of the models were predicting that the trough would not be strong enough to swing Alex to the north, and several of them continue to predict this. The 8am runs of the NOGAPS and ECMWF models, for example, take Alex into the Gulf coast of Mexico 150 miles south of Texas, on Wednesday. The GFDL and HWRF models split the difference, with the GFDL predicting a Thursday landfall in southern Texas near Brownsville, and the HWRF predicting a Thursday landfall near Corpus Christi. Morris Bender of the GFDL group has just provided me the track forecast from an improved experimental version of the GFDL that shows landfall between Corpus Christi and Galveston. So which model should you trust? Last year, the best performing models at the 3 - 4 day forecast range were the GFS and the Canadian, and these are the models that are currently calling for the more northerly track towards the upper Texas coast and Louisiana. Residents of those areas should review their hurricane preparedness plans and anticipate that Alex could make landfall as early as Wednesday in their vicinity. Residents of the Mexican coast south of Brownsville should make similar plans, as Alex could just as easily hit there.

Re-intensification of Alex is likely once the center of Alex moves offshore, though this will initially be slow due to the current disorganized state of the storm and the relatively low total ocean heat content in the 100-mile-wide stretch of water on the west side of the Yucatan Peninsula. Once Alex moves more than 100 miles from the Yucatan, total heat content of the ocean increases substantially, and Alex will have the opportunity to intensify significantly. A longer time spent over water will give Alex more of a chance to strengthen, and it is possible Alex could intensify into a major hurricane if landfall is delayed until Thursday or Friday. However, Alex's intensification may be limited the farther north it gets, as water vapor satellite images show plenty of dry air over Texas that might interfere with development. Wind shear might also be an issue for Alex if it pushes far enough north, and a slow-moving storm tends to pull up cold water from the depths, limiting intensification. In short, Alex has the potential to intensify into a major hurricane, but there are plenty of roadblocks that make this only a 10% probability in my estimation.


Figure 2. Skill of computer model forecasts for Atlantic named storms during 2009. OFCL=Official NHC forecast; GFS=Global Forecast System model; GFDL=Geophysical Fluid Dynamic Laboratory model; HWRF=Hurricane Weather Research Forecasting model; NOGAPS=Navy Operational Global Prediction System model; UKMET+United Kingdom Met Office model; ECMWF=European Center for Medium Range Weather Forecasting model; CMC=Canadian GEM model; TVCN=one of the consensus models that lends together all (or most) of the above models; BAMM=Beta and Advection Model (Medium Layer.) Image credit: National Hurricane Center 2009 verification report.

Elsewhere in the tropics
A tropical wave (Invest 94L) a few hundred miles north of the northernmost Lesser Antilles Islands has been pretty much torn apart, and is no longer a threat to develop.

Next post
Wunderground's severe weather expert Dr. Rob Carver will likely be posting an update on Alex late tonight. My next update will be Monday by 10am EDT.

Jeff Masters
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3001. ElConando 03:43 GMT le 28 juin 2010    
Quoting Hurricanes101:


I think you mean 4am, and they may not; remember the movement of this system is going to be slow to occur. It likely will not make landfall in 48 hours



No I mean 4 pm on Monday and prob no later than early Tuesday since it can slow down a tad. Remember the new standards 48 hours out is a watch now.
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3002. aspectre 03:43 GMT le 28 juin 2010    
2991 leu2500 "Companies do not have to rely on the NOAA/NHC. Many hire private forecasters."

And where do those private forecasters get their information from???
NOAA and NHC maybe?
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3003. MrstormX 03:43 GMT le 28 juin 2010    
Looks like 0z GFS up to no good again.

..Anyways see ya guys
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3004. Patrap 03:43 GMT le 28 juin 2010    
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3005. TampaSpin 03:43 GMT le 28 juin 2010    
Quoting Drakoen:
Alex has finally moved into the Gulf of Mexico's Bay of Campeche and is beginning to strengthen. Excellent outflow can be seen in all quadrants except the northwest quadrant due to the presence of an upper level low. GOES IR shows deep convection firing in and around the center which is a good sign the system is ready to strengthen over the warm waters of the BOC. The system should approach higher OHC content within 24-48 hours to strengthen more rapidly into a hurricane.

My feel on track is in best agreement with AEMN (GFS ensemble mean)12z and the HWRF 12z at the present time. The RUC 02z analysis showed a 500mb trough axis that extends down through central Texas already opening up a weakness in the western and central GOM for Alex to follow through. The ECMWF and the NOGAPS do not show an appreciable movement poleward in the wake of this 500mb trough insisting that a ridge south of the trough will push the system well into Mexico. With the GFS having the highest skill level between 48 and roughly 84 hours out and the CMC with the highest skill level past that along with current observations, I am leaning towards those models but still acounting for the ECMWF and NOGAPS solutions.


Figure 1. RUC 02z 500mb Analysis


Figure 2. GOES IR Alex


NIce take Drak......good job!
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3006. Hurricanes101 03:44 GMT le 28 juin 2010    
Quoting ElConando:



No I mean 4 pm on Monday and prob no later than early Tuesday since it can slow down a tad. Remember the new standards 48 hours out is a watch now.


ah well in that case then yea probably
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3007. cybergrump 03:44 GMT le 28 juin 2010    
That wall of storms coming from the west looking at the big watervapor loop looks like its gonna slam into alex.
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3008. aspectre 03:44 GMT le 28 juin 2010    
TropicalDepressionAlex once again becomes TropicalStormAlex

Copy&paste TAM, MOB, PBI, SAL, 18.4N89.9W, 19.2N90.9W-19.4N91.3W, 18.7N90.6W-28.7n88.4w, 19.2N90.9W-28.7n88.4W, 19.4N91.3W-28.7n88.4W into the GreatCircleMapper.
The red line shows the heading based on the last two positions. Below the map shows:
TSAlex had a heading of 297.8degrees (~6degrees north of WestNorthWest), while
traveling a distance of 30miles (~48kilometres) over 6hours at a speed of ~5mph (~8kph);
TSAlex's distance from DeepwaterHorizon* decreased by 7miles from 673miles to 666miles;
the previous closure rate was ~5mph, and at the current closure rate of ~1mph,
TSAlex remains ~571hours away from the DeepwaterHorizon.

At 120hours away, personnel evacuations and shutdown procedures for ship evacuations begin.
(See the bottom of blog1521post705 for more info)

* Which I've been marking as 28.7n88.4W
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3009. MiamiHurricanes09 03:44 GMT le 28 juin 2010    
Quoting Hurricanes101:


that wave is coming off Africa tomorrow too, very impressive

could be tracking that after Alex leaves
Indeed.

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3010. Thundercloud01221991 03:44 GMT le 28 juin 2010    
UW - CIMSS
ADVANCED DVORAK TECHNIQUE
ADT-Version 8.1.1
Tropical Cyclone Intensity Algorithm

----- Current Analysis -----
Date : 28 JUN 2010 Time : 024500 UTC
Lat : 19:22:56 N Lon : 91:16:54 W


CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
3.1 /1000.3mb/ 47.0kt


Final T# Adj T# Raw T#
3.1 3.4 3.9

Latitude bias adjustment to MSLP : +1.5mb

Center Temp : -56.6C Cloud Region Temp : -45.9C

Scene Type : CURVED BAND with 0.92 ARC in LT GRAY

Positioning Method : FORECAST INTERPOLATION

Ocean Basin : ATLANTIC
Dvorak CI > MSLP Conversion Used : ATLANTIC

Tno/CI Rules : Constraint Limits : 0.5T/hour
Weakening Flag : OFF
Rapid Dissipation Flag : OFF



raw number almost to Hurricane strength
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3011. Mia337 03:45 GMT le 28 juin 2010    
Here in SWLA they are basically saying that its a def hit to Mexico and no need to worry. I am still keeping a very close eye on Mr. Alex.
3012. StormJunkie 03:45 GMT le 28 juin 2010    
Evening tg08, good to see you. You're right, he does not seem to be in a real hurry to go anywhere right this minute.
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3013. TampaWeatherBuff 03:45 GMT le 28 juin 2010    
Quoting StSimonsIslandGAGuy:
C'mon. We can see the models that the NHC uses to predict storms' path and intensity. If they were really altering their predictions due to 'party considerations' we would see a systemic skew in the forecast errors. Not a random distribution. Also, some NHC meteorologist would have made $10 million or more with a bestseller talking about the 'hurricane conspiracy'

I think the NHC does the best they can, with the information that they have. With complex systems and imperfect knowledge, errors happen. Nothing mysterious or conspiratorial about it.


Well, but the next big government initiative is going to be immigration reform/amnesty for illegals. So of COURSE they need a crisis in Mexico to...



OK even my tin foil glows in the dark and I'm unable to keep a straight face with that one... ;)
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3014. emguy 03:46 GMT le 28 juin 2010    
When the cat's away...the mice will play...wild site coming off Africa while we're watching Alex.
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3015. Patrap 03:46 GMT le 28 juin 2010    
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3016. ElConando 03:46 GMT le 28 juin 2010    
Strange that the NW Yucatan isn't under TS Warning since it shows TS winds over it. No one live there?
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3017. jlp09550 03:46 GMT le 28 juin 2010    
Quoting Mia337:
Here in SWLA they are basically saying that its a def hit to Mexico and no need to worry. I am still keeping a very close eye on Mr. Alex.


KATC (TV-3) is saying it can possibly hit near the Louisiana coast. They aren't really going by the NOAA predictions.
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3018. Joanie38 03:46 GMT le 28 juin 2010    
Quoting Mia337:
Here in SWLA they are basically saying that its a def hit to Mexico and no need to worry. I am still keeping a very close eye on Mr. Alex.


YES!! I am in SW LA too and that's what I heard..said not to worry about Alex too much..just not to worry.....
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3019. tropicaltank 03:46 GMT le 28 juin 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
Indeed.

Dang thats big!
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3020. sarahjola 03:47 GMT le 28 juin 2010    
imo i think that the dip south people are seeing is not the coc. i think the coc is just north of that, and maybe it might be about to take a serious n. turn or possible nne. i am probably wrong, but that's what I'm here for. so you all can school me. thanks in advance for any info:)
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3021. TampaWeatherBuff 03:47 GMT le 28 juin 2010    
Quoting ElConando:
Strange that the NW Yucatan isn't under TS Warning since it shows TS winds over it. No one live there?


Great minds think alike. Then again, so do sick, twisted ones.... ;)
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3022. MiamiHurricanes09 03:48 GMT le 28 juin 2010    
Well I'm off. Good night all!
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3023. xcool 03:48 GMT le 28 juin 2010    
TampaSpin good job you know....
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3024. tennisgirl08 03:48 GMT le 28 juin 2010    
Hey Miami and Drak! Alex looks to be stationary due to weak steering currents and ULL pushing down on it. So, what's his next move? Will it be the trough steering it? The reason I ask...wouldn't that warrant a drastic change in the forecast cone? Also, 991mb. Is that really 45mph strength. I am so confused....LOL!
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3025. RitaEvac 03:48 GMT le 28 juin 2010    
the local met I know said if it doesn't start to gain lattitude soon, then all those models pointing lot farther north are crap
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3026. Patrap 03:49 GMT le 28 juin 2010    
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3027. matt03blueoptima 03:49 GMT le 28 juin 2010    
anyone has the link to the 00z runs? i would greatly apreciate..

thanks in advance

matt
3028. KimberlyB 03:49 GMT le 28 juin 2010    
Very nice Drak! Simple, concise, written for mass consumption. Even a bonehead like me as able to follow along quite well. Thanks much!
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3030. ElConando 03:50 GMT le 28 juin 2010    
nvm just be prepared for anything for Wed if one lives in W LA and areas W into Mexico.
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3031. Drakoen 03:51 GMT le 28 juin 2010    
Quoting tennisgirl08:
Hey Miami and Drak! Alex looks to be stationary due to weak steering currents and ULL pushing down on it. So, what's his next move? Will it be the trough steering it? The reason I ask...wouldn't that warrant a drastic change in the forecast cone? Also, 991mb. Is that really 45mph strength. I am so confused....LOL!


It's going to take time for the winds to catch up now that the center is off shore
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3032. Patrap 03:51 GMT le 28 juin 2010    
00z Early Cycle NHC model tracks
Alex
Statistical/Simple Models (CLIPER,BAMs,LBAR,other Statistical Models)





Dynamic Models (More sophisticated models)



Early Model Wind Forecasts

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3033. StormJunkie 03:51 GMT le 28 juin 2010    
Quoting matt03blueoptima:
anyone has the link to the 00z runs? i would greatly apreciate..

thanks in advance

matt


The 00z runs aren't quite out yet, but you will be able to find them on the links under models. The NWS NCEP page will have the GFS on it and that will be one of the first 00z dynamical models that start coming out.
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3034. Joanie38 03:51 GMT le 28 juin 2010    
Quoting ElConando:
People in LA should keep keep tabs on it but I wouldn't worry too much about a hit esp since anything hitting there would be 6+ days away.


Yes, but they also said if it moves north it would accelerate...
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3035. 7544 03:52 GMT le 28 juin 2010    
Quoting CyberStorm:
Look at this map.you can see the trof dipping down deep.I really cant see how this is going west when half the storm is moving off towards the NE.Link


wow glad you see that too ive been saying that all day the ull east of fla seems to be dragging some conv ne over fla now but everyone says its not go figure sure looks like it is
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3036. sarahjola 03:52 GMT le 28 juin 2010    
can anyone answer post 3020? thanks in advance:)
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3037. tennisgirl08 03:52 GMT le 28 juin 2010    
Hey Storm Junkie! Good to see you, too.
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3038. StormJunkie 03:53 GMT le 28 juin 2010    
Broke blog?
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3039. StormJunkie 03:53 GMT le 28 juin 2010    
Quoting matt03blueoptima:
anyone has the link to the 00z runs? i would greatly apreciate..

thanks in advance

matt


The 00z runs aren't quite out yet, but you will be able to find them on the links under models. The NWS NCEP page will have the GFS on it and that will be one of the first 00z dynamical models that start coming out.
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3040. jlp09550 03:53 GMT le 28 juin 2010    
Quoting ElConando:
People in LA should keep keep tabs on it but I wouldn't worry too much about a hit esp since anything hitting there would be 6+ days away.


The only thing I'm worried about is that my neighbors next door are in the process of raising their house. It can't take a strong wind or it'll blow it off the blocks. And it won't be done for a few more weeks..
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3041. Patrap 03:53 GMT le 28 juin 2010    
00z Early Cycle NHC model tracks
Alex
Statistical/Simple Models (CLIPER,BAMs,LBAR,other Statistical Models)





Dynamic Models (More sophisticated models)



Early Model Wind Forecasts

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3042. aspectre 03:54 GMT le 28 juin 2010    
3016 ElConando "Strange that the NW Yucatan isn't under TS Warning since it shows TS winds over it. No one live there?"

The people who live there already know...
...and don't want to scare away the tourists who have yet to arrive.
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3043. matt03blueoptima 03:54 GMT le 28 juin 2010    
3033. StormJunkie thanks so much
3044. Patrap 03:54 GMT le 28 juin 2010    
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3045. jamesrainier 03:55 GMT le 28 juin 2010    
Quoting aspectre:
TSAlex remains ~571hours away from the DeepwaterHorizon.

At 120hours away, personnel evacuations and shutdown procedures for ship evacuations begin.


Quote by Coast Guard Admiral Thad Allen at yesterday's press briefing

"If we get an indication that we have a chance for gale force winds at the wellhead, a 120 hours out in advance that’s when we'll make the decision."

http://www.enewspf.com/index.php/news/88888996-bpgulf-oil-spill/17257-press-briefing-by-national-in cident-commander-june-26-2010
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3046. KingofNewOrleans 03:55 GMT le 28 juin 2010    
Quoting sarahjola:
imo i think that the dip south people are seeing is not the coc. i think the coc is just north of that, and maybe it might be about to take a serious n. turn or possible nne. i am probably wrong, but that's what I'm here for. so you all can school me. thanks in advance for any info:)


You are correct on the CoC, it's actually underneath the small CDO on the North side of the system. Many people, myself included, were following a dry slot that is now clearly rotating around the CDO.

As for making a serious turn, no, i don't think so.
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3047. TampaSpin 03:55 GMT le 28 juin 2010    
Quoting xcool:
TampaSpin good job you know....


Ya thanks.....got lucky i guess!
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3048. ElConando 03:55 GMT le 28 juin 2010    
3032. Nothing to do with LA there.
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3050. LSU791 03:56 GMT le 28 juin 2010    
Quoting ElConando:
People in LA should keep keep tabs on it but I wouldn't worry too much about a yet esp since anything hitting there would be 6 days away.

If I remember correctly Dr. Masters was quoted on here earlier saying that residents in Louisiana should make preps. in anticipation of a hurricane landfall by Weds. By my math that is only 3 days from now.
3051. ElConando 03:57 GMT le 28 juin 2010    
Quoting aspectre:
3016 ElConando "Strange that the NW Yucatan isn't under TS Warning since it shows TS winds over it. No one live there?"

The people who live there already know...
...and don't want to scare away the tourists who have yet to arrive.


A possibility. Not gonna rip my hair out about it though.
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