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Flooding Continues Along the Rio Grande
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 08:52 GMT le 10 juillet 2010 +4
Hi everybody, Dr. Rob Carver filling in for Jeff while he's on vacation.

Things have quieted down in the tropics. No invests are active, and the tropical waves at sea don't have many thunderstorms associated with them. However, the moisture associated with Alex and TD Two is still bring widespread showers to Mexico/Texas which is contributing to flooding alon the Rio Grande. Here are several videos documenting the troubles along the Rio Grande.









Finally, here's a story about relief efforts in northern Mexico for villages cutoff by flood damaged roads and bridges.


Next update
Jeff should be back on Monday. Have a good weekend.
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1451. Patrap 17:22 GMT le 11 juillet 2010    
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1452. gator23 17:23 GMT le 11 juillet 2010    
Quoting Patrap:
Geezum .

Hate?

I think your a tad mistaken.

You said Miami chica..

Not Kendall.

Im well aware of what occurred there as I was there in 92.

Post storm with Relief...Sept 92.


thats a fair point. And thank you for your help. You said Miami didnt get hit thouhg and I am correcting you. Kendall is Miami. Go ahead and look for Kendall city government and Kendall city police. It doesnt exist its a federated city-county government. Its like saying a storm hitting Brooklyn didnt hit NY. I refer you to the Miami-Dade homerule charter. We are a federated city-county government.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miami-Dade_county_law_and_government
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1453. nrtiwlnvragn 17:23 GMT le 11 juillet 2010    
Quoting spathy:

Speaking of Andrew I was looking for one of those wind graphics that showed the wind field as it came into Homestead fl.
Does anyone have one tucked away they can share?


Hurricane Research Division's Andrew Page should have what you are looking for.
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1454. HarleyStormDude52 17:24 GMT le 11 juillet 2010    
Hey JRRP.. That IS a nasty little blob coming off Africa...Just looked at it again on Sat24.com Africa loop.. interesting....
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1455. portcharlotte 17:25 GMT le 11 juillet 2010    
I understand Katrina but the real category 5 was Charley here in Port Charlotte...sustained 120 with gusts ro 164MPH recorded on my Davis instrument for a period. No electric for 8 weeks and lost half of my roof!

Quoting Patrap:


Me thinks you are a tad off on skew.

pfffth
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1456. Grothar 17:27 GMT le 11 juillet 2010    
This image is a part of Miami after Andrew, not Homestead.

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1457. gator23 17:28 GMT le 11 juillet 2010    
Quoting portcharlotte:
I understand Katrina but the real category 5 was Charley here in Port Charlotte...sustained 120 with gusts ro 164MPH recorded on my Davis instrument for a period. No electric for 8 weeks and lost half of my roof!


Katrina did not make landfall as a cat5 and Charley NEVER was a cat 5
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1458. leo305 17:28 GMT le 11 juillet 2010    
Quoting Grothar:
This image is a part of Miami after Andrew, not Homestead.



that's not miami
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1459. StormGoddess 17:28 GMT le 11 juillet 2010    
Quoting MechEngMet:
Pat, I've been watching the videos, and I haven't seen the first part (flex adapter?) get lowered yet. The robots were fanning some oil away to briefly expose the center 'riser' (production) pipe. Another robot retrieved what looked like a hydraulic socket wrench. I thought that meant they wouel be bolting it on soon, but still nothing. I'll keep watching...

Chicklet! Civilization is good for you. I didn't fight my way up the evolutionary food chain to eat rabbit chow. Where does that fit in Maslow's hierarchy of needs? Here's your ordermam (presents tray) Eggs Benedict with fried oysters and crawfish tails. Side of hashbrowns, and fig toast. A double tobasco bloody-mary, with Ketel-0ne, lime and spiced beans. Just call your waiter when you're ready for your second B-mary. If that doesn't set the world straight for you this morning then book the next flight to the BVI. (BTW Nice poem, thanks.)

The cat is sleeping on the carpet in a spot of sun through the office window. All is right with the world for now.

I've always found Maslow's hierarchy of needs to be extremely depressing. Your brunch sounded good, though. Just stopping by to see if everything out there is still peaceful. Guess so, have a good Sunday all.
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1460. gator23 17:29 GMT le 11 juillet 2010    
Quoting Grothar:
This image is a part of Miami after Andrew, not Homestead.


Regardless grothar, all of Miami-Dade is technically Miami because of the Federated City-Government. He is acting odd for some reason today.
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1461. obsessedwweather 17:29 GMT le 11 juillet 2010    
Doesn't look like there's much going on in the tropics right now. The blob off of Africa is something to watch though.
1462. portcharlotte 17:29 GMT le 11 juillet 2010    
Sorry, you are dead wrong! Charley was the ONLY CAT 5 that year...check your data

Quoting gator23:

Katrina did not make landfall as a cat5 and Charley NEVER was a cat 5
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1463. gator23 17:30 GMT le 11 juillet 2010    
Quoting leo305:


that's not miami

yes it is.
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1464. gator23 17:31 GMT le 11 juillet 2010    
Quoting portcharlotte:
Sorry, you are dead wrong! Charley was the ONLY CAT 5 that year...check your data


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Charley
nope
cat 4 check YOUR data
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1465. Chicklit 17:31 GMT le 11 juillet 2010    
Hypothetically speaking, if the Libyans bought BP assets in the GOM, do you think they'd be interested in cleaning up the spill?
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1466. Grothar 17:32 GMT le 11 juillet 2010    
Andrew, small size, big wind field. Many Cat 3 wind gusts all the way to Broward in Northern bands.

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1467. Patrap 17:32 GMT le 11 juillet 2010    
Seems some are SSS Cat challenged.


1. I never started this stupid thread.

2. I never mentioned K at all.


3. Not many Cat 3's come in with a 17-30 Foot Storm Surge.

4. Trailers posing as Home's will always get wacked in a Major Hurricane.

5.Have a sweet day..


Ciao...
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1468. Chicklit 17:32 GMT le 11 juillet 2010    
Cannot type without my glasses on anymore.
Yay, hooray, looks like we'll finally get some rain today!
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1469. 1fromnovasscotia 17:32 GMT le 11 juillet 2010    
WOW it would be suicide to hang around for a cat 5 storm,I don't even think the people of burma would have stuck around for cyclone Nargis, myanmar, burma may 2, 2008 i guess its the most recent human tragedy that people forgot about those poor people didn't have a chance red cross estimates 150,000 dead, very graphic videos on utube, i hope something like that never happens to anyone of any nation
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1470. leo305 17:34 GMT le 11 juillet 2010    
Quoting gator23:

yes it is.


I doubt that was the miami metro area.. There is no place as rural as that in the metro area, it looks like homestead to me *which got the eye wall, miami did not*
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1471. hurricane23 17:34 GMT le 11 juillet 2010    
Quoting gator23:


I have stayed for a cat 5. My Miami house was built very well. But I understand your point.


South florida Dade/broward metropolitan areas have not seen the heart of major hurricane in a very very long time. Andrew's small core of 150 mph destructuve winds stated well south of the metro areas.
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1472. spathy 17:35 GMT le 11 juillet 2010    
Thanks nrt
Thats exactly what I was looking for.
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1473. Relix 17:35 GMT le 11 juillet 2010    
The SAL won't allow that wave to develop.
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1474. IKE 17:36 GMT le 11 juillet 2010    
Looks pretty favorable now in the ATL, but it's headed for the Indian Ocean, IF the models verify.

Maybe Bastardi means beyond that. Hey Joe...you still think 4 storms in July?

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1475. Grothar 17:37 GMT le 11 juillet 2010    
Quoting gator23:

Regardless grothar, all of Miami-Dade is technically Miami because of the Federated City-Government. He is acting odd for some reason today.


I lived in Miami 25 years. Lived in Old Cutler during Andrew. I now live in Ft. Lauderdale. My mother's family moved here in 1923. Quite familiar with the Miami-Dade county. I guess people are not that familiar with the set up of our cities. Like Miami Beach and the City of Miami are two totally separate entities not even near each other.
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1477. JRRP 17:38 GMT le 11 juillet 2010    

solar eclipse
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1478. BDAwx 17:38 GMT le 11 juillet 2010    
gusts of cat 5 strength does not make a cat 5 hurricane.
otherwise, by that same theory, Fabian was a cat 5 as the 117mph sustained wind with a gust to 164mph in st. georges would have made it a cat 5.
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1479. portcharlotte 17:38 GMT le 11 juillet 2010    
You are right and I apologize for the error.

Pointing to a slide showing a map of the predicted landfall for Hurricane Charley, he noted that the Tampa Bay area was projected to be ground zero before the storm unexpectedly took a sharp turn into Charlotte County. Mayfield’s comments brought back scary memories to the locals in the room, reminding them that Charley likely would have been a Category 5 storm as it crossed densely populated Pinellas and Hillsborough counties. Although the storm missed the Tampa Bay area, Charley’s 145 mile-per-hour winds still caused $6.8 billion in insured losses, while destroying 10,000 homes and severely damaging another 17,000.



Quoting gator23:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Charley
nope
cat 4 check YOUR data
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1480. gator23 17:39 GMT le 11 juillet 2010    
Quoting hurricane23:


South florida Dade/broward metropolitan areas have not seen the heart of major hurricane in a very very long time. Andrew's small core of 150 mph destructuve winds stated well south of the metro areas.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miami_metropolitan_area

Please see the cities section

then read this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miami-Dade_county_law_and_government

Kendall is not a city it is more like a borough they even have Miami Addresses. yikes guys take a geography class.
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1481. lavinia 17:40 GMT le 11 juillet 2010    
Quoting Patrap:
LIVE webcast of the Solar Eclipse today


Thanks for posting this Patrap :)

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1482. JRRP 17:40 GMT le 11 juillet 2010    
Quoting HarleyStormDude52:
Hey JRRP.. That IS a nasty little blob coming off Africa...Just looked at it again on Sat24.com Africa loop.. interesting....

yea
thanks
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1483. TropicalAnalystwx13 17:40 GMT le 11 juillet 2010    
Quoting IKE:
Looks pretty favorable now in the ATL, but it's headed for the Indian Ocean, IF the models verify.

Maybe Bastardi means beyond that. Hey Joe...you still think 4 storms in July?



For a while. Look at the end of the blue line, it turns back to the Atlantic. We'll pretty much be in an upward pulse all season long.
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1484. gator23 17:41 GMT le 11 juillet 2010    
Quoting Grothar:


I lived in Miami 25 years. Lived in Old Cutler during Andrew. I now live in Ft. Lauderdale. My mother's family moved here in 1923. Quite familiar with the Miami-Dade county. I guess people are not that familiar with the set up of our cities. Like Miami Beach and the City of Miami are two totally separate entities not even near each other.

yup. People dont get it. if you live in MD county you live in Miami. Same parks, same streets, same police, same transit, same water etc etc etc
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1485. gator23 17:42 GMT le 11 juillet 2010    
Quoting leo305:


I doubt that was the miami metro area.. There is no place as rural as that in the metro area, it looks like homestead to me *which got the eye wall, miami did not*

homestead, is the Miami metro area. By your argument the NHC isnt in Miami. except they are.
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1486. JRRP 17:42 GMT le 11 juillet 2010    
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1487. Grothar 17:43 GMT le 11 juillet 2010    
Quoting leo305:


I doubt that was the miami metro area.. There is no place as rural as that in the metro area, it looks like homestead to me *which got the eye wall, miami did not*


No one said it was the Miami metro area. Anyone who lives here knows that that metro areas of Miami or Broward have not seen a direct hit from a CAT 5 in decades.
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1489. TropicalAnalystwx13 17:44 GMT le 11 juillet 2010    
Total Solar Eclipse today.
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1490. leo305 17:45 GMT le 11 juillet 2010    
Quoting gator23:

homestead, is the Miami metro area.


Homestead is not in the miami metro area, homestead is a separate city located in Miami-Dade county.
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1491. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 17:47 GMT le 11 juillet 2010    
Quoting Grothar:


No one said it was the Miami metro area. Anyone who lives here knows that that metro areas of Miami or Broward have not seen a direct hit from a CAT 5 in decades.
miami cat5 plus everything bare nothing left no life but the dirt and the water everyone must leave there.if that is ever to be
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1492. leo305 17:47 GMT le 11 juillet 2010    
Quoting gator23:

homestead, is the Miami metro area. By your argument the NHC isnt in Miami. except they are.


How so? The NHC is in rural miami, homestead is south west of miami.
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1493. leo305 17:47 GMT le 11 juillet 2010    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Total Solar Eclipse today.


Looked at the sun, and it seems fine to me! "Here in miami"
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1494. IKE 17:48 GMT le 11 juillet 2010    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:


For a while. Look at the end of the blue line, it turns back to the Atlantic. We'll pretty much be in an upward pulse all season long.



"to the Atlantic" or toward the Atlantic? I know...we're splitting hairs here....I understand your point...






Quoting jasoniscoolman2010x:
this wave is still on land put its so big..


Looks like Uncle SAL is putting a crimp on that blob.
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1495. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 17:49 GMT le 11 juillet 2010    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Total Solar Eclipse today.
easter island i believe
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1496. gator23 17:49 GMT le 11 juillet 2010    
Quoting leo305:


Homestead is not in the miami metro area, homestead is a separate city located in Miami-Dade county.


dude I am not going to argue with you if you choose not to read. thats your problem in the off chance you choose to read here is proof. Futhermore, CAT 5 winds were recorded at the Kendall-Tamiami airport which is also in metro-miami and has a Miami-Zip code.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Florida_metropolitan_area
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1497. gator23 17:50 GMT le 11 juillet 2010    
Quoting leo305:


How so? The NHC is in rural miami, homestead is south west of miami.

the NHC is in rural miami? FIU is rural? news to me. dud i think you mean "suburban" not "rural"
where in Miami do you live?
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1498. TropicalAnalystwx13 17:52 GMT le 11 juillet 2010    
Quoting IKE:



"to the Atlantic" or toward the Atlantic? I know...we're splitting hairs here....I understand your point...








Looks like Uncle SAL is putting a crimp on that blob.


Sorry, towards the Atlantic, but it should come back to the Atlantic there after.
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1499. nrtiwlnvragn 17:53 GMT le 11 juillet 2010    
Should see an East Pacific invest pop up soon.
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1500. leo305 17:55 GMT le 11 juillet 2010    
Quoting gator23:

the NHC is in rural miami? FIU is rural? news to me. dud i think you mean "suburban" not "rural"
where in Miami do you live?


yes suburban , sorry I'm not fluent with geographical terminology.

@gator

they reported near CAT 4 winds before there equipment died. Kendall is part of the miami metro area, but Homestead is not. Don't confuse MIAMI DADE with Miami.
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1501. Grothar 17:55 GMT le 11 juillet 2010    
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
miami cat5 plus everything bare nothing left no life but the dirt and the water everyone must leave there.if that is ever to be


Where would we go? Have you ever seen our highways at rush hour? LOL
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