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97L gets disrupted by Hispaniola
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 12:53 GMT le 21 juillet 2010 +5
A tropical wave (Invest 97L) near the north coast of Hispaniola has been disrupted by interaction with the island, plus the effects of moderate wind shear of 10 - 20 knots. The storm is no longer a threat to develop into a tropical depression today, and the Hurricane Hunter flight that was scheduled for today has been postponed until Thursday. The disturbance has brought heavy rains of 8+ inches to Culebra, Vieques, the Virgin Islands, and some of the northern Lesser Antilles Islands. Wunderblogger Weather456 reported that the power was knocked out on the island of St. Kitts for about 24 hours, due to the intense lightning associated with 97L. All of Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands are under flash flood watches today.

Satellite images of 97L show a relatively meager number of heavy thunderstorms that are not well-organized. The curved bands to the north and east of the center have disappeared, and there is no evidence of low-level spiral banding or of a surface circulation. Surface observations over the northern Dominican Republic show only light winds, with no westerly winds indicating that a surface circulation is forming. Long-range radar loops from San Juan show a much reduced amount of thunderstorm activity.


Figure 1. Total radar-estimate rainfall for 97L.

Track Forecast for 97L
The storm is in a fairly straightforward steering current environment, and 97L should progress steadily to the west-northwest through Saturday. The rains from 97L's thunderstorms will bring the threat of isolated flooding to the Dominican Republic today, and to Haiti on today and Thursday. Heavy rains from 97L will affect eastern Cuba, the Turks and Caicos Islands, and the eastern Bahamas Thursday, and South and Central Florida can expect heavy rains to arrive Thursday night or Friday morning. The latest suite of model runs from 2am EDT this morning (6Z) foresee 97L making landfall on the Florida coast somewhere between Miami and Cape Canaveral on Friday, then continuing into the Gulf of Mexico on Saturday. Only the Canadian model foresees a threat to Texas, and the other models predict a second landfall between eastern Louisiana and the Florida Panhandle.

Intensity Forecast for 97L
The primary detriment to development of 97L today will be its close proximity to the landmass of Hispaniola. Once the storm pulls away from the island tonight, 97L has a better chance of development. Also hindering development over the next two days will be the presence of dry, stable air in its path over the Bahamas, thanks to the upper-level low to the north of the Dominican Republic. The SHIPS model predicts shear will stay in the moderate range, 10 - 20 knots, over the next three days, which should allow for some steady development of 97L on Thursday and Friday before it reaches Florida. NHC is giving 97L a 60% chance of developing into a tropical depression by Friday, which is a reasonable forecast. I think there is a 70% chance 97L will eventually become Tropical Storm Bonnie, sometime in the next five days. Sudden rapid development before 97L reaches Florida is unlikely, due to the storm's current state of disorganization and the dry air over the Bahamas. It's very unlikely that 97L has time to organize into a hurricane before hitting Florida. I put the odds of 97L making it to hurricane strength before reaching Florida at 5%, and I give a 20% chance it will be a hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico. The probability of 97L being a hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico will depend heavily upon how long the storm spends over water in the Gulf, which is very uncertain. The environment in the Gulf of Mexico should be favorable for intensification, if passage over Florida does not disrupt the storm too much.

I'll have a new post Thursday morning, or earlier if there's a major change to 97L.

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1452. IKE 20:20 GMT le 21 juillet 2010    
Quoting CybrTeddy:


Pressures rise during the day and fall during the night. Pressures are falling when they usually rise.


Pressure usually rises in the morning...drops in the afternoon...rises in the evening...drops in the early morning.
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1454. Seflhurricane 20:20 GMT le 21 juillet 2010    
i do not think you can check for observation on the north coast of haiti to see if we have west winds can you check in northeast cuba
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1455. CybrTeddy 20:20 GMT le 21 juillet 2010    
MLC exposed.. but the system itself is starting to gain organized convection.

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1456. sailfish01 20:20 GMT le 21 juillet 2010    
Seems to me 97L is looking better and may be moving more west which indicates S Fl. Tomorrow will be interesting to watch.
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1457. Seflhurricane 20:21 GMT le 21 juillet 2010    
Quoting StormW:
Greetings again!
hi storm welcome back looks like 97L starting to pick up steam
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1458. WeatherNerdPR 20:21 GMT le 21 juillet 2010    
1249. WeatherNerdPR
This comment has been removed for violating the Community Standards.

My comment got removed :(
But 97L seems to be organizing. So bad news Baha.
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1459. smmcdavid 20:21 GMT le 21 juillet 2010    
Quoting StormW:
Greetings again!


Good afternoon.
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1460. jeebsa 20:22 GMT le 21 juillet 2010    
Quoting StormW:
Greetings again!
Greetings any changes?
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1461. lickitysplit 20:22 GMT le 21 juillet 2010    
convection is better organized now - TD tomorrow?
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1462. earthlydragonfly 20:22 GMT le 21 juillet 2010    
Quoting flsky:

Any way to slow this graphic down a bit?


I dont know about slowing it... but you could just move your mouse over the hours at the top of the screen and look at it frame by frame..
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1463. 7544 20:22 GMT le 21 juillet 2010    
97l getting ready for ashow just like t6he cmc has showed all along 4or 5 mb pres drop in the last hour ?
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1464. wfyweather 20:22 GMT le 21 juillet 2010    
Quoting CybrTeddy:
MLC exposed.. but the system itself is starting to gain organized convection.



has quite a way to go... Yes... it is gaining some "organized convection".... But its going to have to work really hard to be able to develop
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1465. xcool 20:22 GMT le 21 juillet 2010    
Floodman :) lol
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1466. CybrTeddy 20:22 GMT le 21 juillet 2010    
Quoting StormW:
Greetings again!


Storm, take a look at my post at 1421. What are you thoughts?
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1467. Floodman 20:22 GMT le 21 juillet 2010    


See what you've gone and done:
Quoting CybrTeddy::




Looking ahead now on the ECMWF.. it has continued to show a strong tropical wave off Africa and a system in the Gulf. It kills off the system off Africa and look what's inland over Louisiana at 192 hours.


You;ve scared Taz

Quoting Tazmanian:



eeeeeeek
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1468. masonsnana 20:23 GMT le 21 juillet 2010    
Quoting StormW:
Greetings again!
Hello again
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1469. IKE 20:23 GMT le 21 juillet 2010    
Quoting CybrTeddy:
MLC exposed.. but the system itself is starting to gain organized convection.



I agree with you on that...it's exposed. Near about 21.8N and 72.4W.
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1470. Tazmanian 20:23 GMT le 21 juillet 2010    
Quoting lickitysplit:
convection is better organized now - TD tomorrow?



yup


TD thursday

TS thursday night


and hurricane by friday AM



my forcast
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1471. WeatherNerdPR 20:23 GMT le 21 juillet 2010    
Quoting StormW:
Greetings again!

Hi. What's your take on 97L?
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1472. BradentonBrew 20:23 GMT le 21 juillet 2010    
Quoting smmcdavid:
I don't see how comparing tracks of different storms matters at all. There is so much that has to be taken into consideration... so much that affects the track. Ten storms could start in the same location and make landfall in ten different locations, all at different intensity levels. Seriously?!


Wow, somebody finally said what I was thinking. I think that climatology suggests where storms may form, but as far as track, it's pointless to bring up past storms.
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1474. reedzone 20:24 GMT le 21 juillet 2010    
Again, itr is more likely we will be dealing with a lopsided TD/TS tomorrow.. Sort of like Danny from last year..
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1475. wfyweather 20:24 GMT le 21 juillet 2010    
Quoting Tazmanian:



yup


TD thursday

TS thursday night


and hurricane by friday AM



my forcast


plausible.. so I take it your thinking the straits?
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1477. CybrTeddy 20:24 GMT le 21 juillet 2010    
Quoting wfyweather:


has quite a way to go... Yes... it is gaining some "organized convection".... But its going to have to work really hard to be able to develop


97L is a persistent little bugger.. these little buggers usually develop into a serious headache for someone. I've seen far worse looking invests at this stage that have become powerful systems. Whether or not conditions are going to favorable for that to happen we'll wait and see. I do see a 40 mph TS by Saturday though.
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1478. Floodman 20:25 GMT le 21 juillet 2010    
Quoting hydrus:
While puffin the prehistoric ganj....I know...I was born at night, but not last night...


You have a very low opinion of me...you're not far wrong, but still...
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1479. Tazmanian 20:25 GMT le 21 juillet 2010    
Quoting wfyweather:


plausible.. so I take it your thinking the straits?



yup lol
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1480. unf97 20:25 GMT le 21 juillet 2010    
StormW, I wanted to get your thoughts on the wave currently in the eastern Carribean SE of Puerto Rico. There have been some impressive convective bursts during the past 12 hours with this wave. Have you had time to analyze that wave? I know all of the focus is on 97L as it should be, but I wanted your thoughts about that system.
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1481. WeatherNerdPR 20:25 GMT le 21 juillet 2010    
Quoting reedzone:
Again, itr is more likely we will be dealing with a lopsided TD/TS tomorrow.. Sort of like Danny from last year..

By "lopsided", you mean sheared , right?
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1482. TampaSpin 20:25 GMT le 21 juillet 2010    
For the sake of Texas / Louisiana areas...they better start wishcasting that 97L gets a little stronger and then goes North some....if 97L misses Florida as a weak storm, that may just be the worst case scerino for Texas/Louisiana area IMO!
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1486. scott39 20:26 GMT le 21 juillet 2010    
Hey StormW, Whats your short and long term assesment of 97L battle with the ULL?
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1487. Tazmanian 20:26 GMT le 21 juillet 2010    
i am forcasting 97L too be a cat 5 in 12hrs


you better run for the hills
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1488. redUK 20:26 GMT le 21 juillet 2010    
Been lurking for a long while here, but must say that recently the signal/noise ratio of the comments has reached ridiculous levels! 8)

For what it's worth, it looks to me like the upper low will track parallel to 97L for duration of the storm. Can't see it ever making hurricane strength.

Really hoping that this doesn't hit the oil spill at anything higher than TD !
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1489. CybrTeddy 20:26 GMT le 21 juillet 2010    
Thanks storm!
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1490. leo305 20:27 GMT le 21 juillet 2010    
The area in the BOC is organizing
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1491. divdog 20:27 GMT le 21 juillet 2010    
Quoting TampaSpin:
For the sake of Texas / Louisiana areas...they better start wishcasting that 97L gets a little stronger and then goes North some....if 97L misses Florida as a weak storm, that may just be the worst case scerino for Texas/Louisiana area IMO!
its a blob invest nothing else may never be anything else quit scaring people
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1492. wfyweather 20:27 GMT le 21 juillet 2010    
Quoting CybrTeddy:


97L is a persistent little bugger.. these little buggers usually develop into a serious headache for someone. I've seen far worse looking invests at this stage that have become powerful systems. Whether or not conditions are going to favorable for that to happen we'll wait and see. I do see a 40 mph TS by Saturday though.


Yeah.. It does have the potential to be a big problem.... and yes.... there have been horrible looking invests... much much worse than this.... and yeah sometime between now and Sat I expect Bonnie from this... heck... maybe even Hurricane Bonnie
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1494. smmcdavid 20:27 GMT le 21 juillet 2010    
unf... maybe you should try asking Storm questions on HIS blog. Just a thought. I've seen you post this several times and I think he is just missing it. I think he tries to answer all the questions on his blog though. ;-)
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1496. reedzone 20:28 GMT le 21 juillet 2010    
Quoting WeatherNerdPR:

By "lopsided", you mean sheared , right?


Yes, a sheared TS.. Especially if the storm remains pretty close to the ULL.
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1497. xcool 20:28 GMT le 21 juillet 2010    
Tazmanian cat5 huh
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1498. Tazmanian 20:28 GMT le 21 juillet 2010    
1491. divdog 8:27 PM GMT on July 21, 2010 Hide this comment.

Quoting TampaSpin:
For the sake of Texas / Louisiana areas...they better start wishcasting that 97L gets a little stronger and then goes North some....if 97L misses Florida as a weak storm, that may just be the worst case scerino for Texas/Louisiana area IMO!

its a blob invest nothing else may never be anything else quit scaring people




POOF
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1499. Thaale 20:28 GMT le 21 juillet 2010    
97L has been slower to develop than many of the models called for. As later model runs incorporated the slow development, tracks have shifted W and S. If the system gets into Cuba before getting organized, it might never do so. Look at the ensemble of 18Z GFS runs:

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1500. weathermanwannabe 20:29 GMT le 21 juillet 2010    
Quoting Tazmanian:
i am forcasting 97L too be a cat 5 in 12hrs


you better run for the hills


That must be a joke as there are no "hills" in the Bahamas and South Florida.....Right?
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1501. hurricanejunky 20:29 GMT le 21 juillet 2010    
Quoting TampaSpin:


Ya ya i know.....hehehehe.....be very very quite ...i'm hunting wabbit.....LOL

We really need 97L to intensify some so it goes North some......if it goes thru the Strait and misses Florida......She will be a much more dangerous Storm down the road with a lot of GOM for her viewing and digesting.....we need 97L to gain some lattitude and not pass south of Florida as that could be very ugly for Texas / Louisiana!!!


and besides, we NEED the rain. At least here in N. Ft. Myers, we've had yet another dry rainy season thus far. Seems when I was a kid and up until recently, every day between 3 and 5 pm the thunderboomers and heavy rains would come.
Not anymore...weirdness...
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