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97L gets disrupted by Hispaniola
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 12:53 GMT le 21 juillet 2010 +5
A tropical wave (Invest 97L) near the north coast of Hispaniola has been disrupted by interaction with the island, plus the effects of moderate wind shear of 10 - 20 knots. The storm is no longer a threat to develop into a tropical depression today, and the Hurricane Hunter flight that was scheduled for today has been postponed until Thursday. The disturbance has brought heavy rains of 8+ inches to Culebra, Vieques, the Virgin Islands, and some of the northern Lesser Antilles Islands. Wunderblogger Weather456 reported that the power was knocked out on the island of St. Kitts for about 24 hours, due to the intense lightning associated with 97L. All of Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands are under flash flood watches today.

Satellite images of 97L show a relatively meager number of heavy thunderstorms that are not well-organized. The curved bands to the north and east of the center have disappeared, and there is no evidence of low-level spiral banding or of a surface circulation. Surface observations over the northern Dominican Republic show only light winds, with no westerly winds indicating that a surface circulation is forming. Long-range radar loops from San Juan show a much reduced amount of thunderstorm activity.


Figure 1. Total radar-estimate rainfall for 97L.

Track Forecast for 97L
The storm is in a fairly straightforward steering current environment, and 97L should progress steadily to the west-northwest through Saturday. The rains from 97L's thunderstorms will bring the threat of isolated flooding to the Dominican Republic today, and to Haiti on today and Thursday. Heavy rains from 97L will affect eastern Cuba, the Turks and Caicos Islands, and the eastern Bahamas Thursday, and South and Central Florida can expect heavy rains to arrive Thursday night or Friday morning. The latest suite of model runs from 2am EDT this morning (6Z) foresee 97L making landfall on the Florida coast somewhere between Miami and Cape Canaveral on Friday, then continuing into the Gulf of Mexico on Saturday. Only the Canadian model foresees a threat to Texas, and the other models predict a second landfall between eastern Louisiana and the Florida Panhandle.

Intensity Forecast for 97L
The primary detriment to development of 97L today will be its close proximity to the landmass of Hispaniola. Once the storm pulls away from the island tonight, 97L has a better chance of development. Also hindering development over the next two days will be the presence of dry, stable air in its path over the Bahamas, thanks to the upper-level low to the north of the Dominican Republic. The SHIPS model predicts shear will stay in the moderate range, 10 - 20 knots, over the next three days, which should allow for some steady development of 97L on Thursday and Friday before it reaches Florida. NHC is giving 97L a 60% chance of developing into a tropical depression by Friday, which is a reasonable forecast. I think there is a 70% chance 97L will eventually become Tropical Storm Bonnie, sometime in the next five days. Sudden rapid development before 97L reaches Florida is unlikely, due to the storm's current state of disorganization and the dry air over the Bahamas. It's very unlikely that 97L has time to organize into a hurricane before hitting Florida. I put the odds of 97L making it to hurricane strength before reaching Florida at 5%, and I give a 20% chance it will be a hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico. The probability of 97L being a hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico will depend heavily upon how long the storm spends over water in the Gulf, which is very uncertain. The environment in the Gulf of Mexico should be favorable for intensification, if passage over Florida does not disrupt the storm too much.

I'll have a new post Thursday morning, or earlier if there's a major change to 97L.

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4152. GeoffreyWPB 12:09 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting whs2012:


Those models look further south to me. :/ are they old?


A couple of the models have shifted left (as far as Fla. is concerned) since I last looked a few hours ago
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4153. Hardcoreweather2010 12:09 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
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4154. gator23 12:09 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting whs2012:


How far north?

south Florida back in play
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4156. extreme236 12:09 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting Thundercloud01221991:
someone posted that TD 3 has formed on another forum and used this as a support is this true:

AL, 97, 2010072212, , BEST, 0, 216N, 744W, 30, 1008, TD


No renumber yet but I see that.
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4157. DoubleAction 12:09 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
I think 97L is finally feeling the steering effects of the low level florwish flow.
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4158. Hurricane4Lex 12:10 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Anyone know what the strength is for 97L and the ridge for the next 24hrs? (model maps help) TIA
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4159. sporteguy03 12:10 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting Thundercloud01221991:
someone posted that TD 3 has formed on another forum and used this as a support is this true:

AL, 97, 2010072212, , BEST, 0, 216N, 744W, 30, 1008, TD

yes that is a TD per the initials but 21.6 North interesting hmm but no sale until Recon gets there.
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4160. Abacosurf 12:10 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting jeebsa:
Good morning all.Just got on. Is there a COC farther north than they thought, and do you think the models will shift north more toward Florida.
I have a huge mango tree with fruit all over it.
there almost ready. Wondering if I should pick them early.


Nah...Pick um off the ground if they fall. Leave the ones up that stay. Put um in your smoothie and have a great day! LOL

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4161. gator23 12:10 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting connie1976:
I see all of the models....does that mean we aren't going to get much rain in s. fl now? ....and is the ull moving away now?

you will get more rain.
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4162. poknsnok 12:10 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting Thundercloud01221991:



this image is someone else's that was posted on another blog but it shows the center very well


still lots of shear. if the conditions ever got good it would be a strong one. but it looks like they will never be that good.
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4163. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 12:10 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting sporteguy03:


Keep there is another blogger with a similar username, I hope he does not get banned because he did not do anything, notice the difference in spelling.
i seen it 03 just an imposter
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4165. extreme236 12:11 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
98L could soon be a TD IMO. SAB at 06z gave 98L a T1.0...but the DT was 2.0, suggesting increasing organization to a TD.
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4167. tkeith 12:11 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting StormHype:


Is the cap still on though?
as of right now...yes.
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4168. GeoffreyWPB 12:12 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
AL, 97, 2010072212, 216N, 744W, 30, 1008, TD

Link
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4169. MiamiHurricanes09 12:12 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
I wouldn't be surprised to see both 97L and 98L become Bonnie and Colin this afternoon. Also, if 97L does develop a little stronger models might shift to the right a bit as a stronger system tends to move poleward.



However 98L is looking more impressive on satellite right now.

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4170. jeebsa 12:12 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting Abacosurf:


Nah...Pick um off the ground if they fall. Leave the ones up that stay. Put um in your smoothie and have a great day! LOL

Holy Guacamole LOL
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4171. Thundercloud01221991 12:13 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
if they both get upgraded to TD at the same time which would be TD3 and which would be TD4 and then what about names at the same time as well???
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4172. extreme236 12:13 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
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4174. IKE 12:14 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
SURFACE PRESSURES ARE FALLING IN THE CENTRAL AND SOUTHEASTERN
BAHAMAS AND SATELLITE IMAGES INDICATE A INCREASE SINCE YESTERDAY IN
THE ORGANIZATION OF THE SHOWER ACTIVITY ASSOCIATED WITH THE
TROPICAL WAVE. THE AREA OF LOWEST PRESSURE IS CENTERED BETWEEN THE
ISLANDS OF ACKLINS AND GREAT INAGUA...AND MOVING TOWARD THE
WEST-NORTHWEST AT 10 TO 15 MPH.
A TROPICAL DEPRESSION OR A TROPICAL
STORM COULD FORM AT ANY TIME TODAY...AND A RECONNAISSANCE PLANE
WILL INVESTIGATE THE SYSTEM THIS AFTERNOON. THERE IS A HIGH
CHANCE...70 PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE
DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS. SHOWERS AND STRONG GUSTY WINDS
ASSOCIATED WITH THIS DISTURBANCE WILL SPREAD OVER THE
BAHAMAS...PORTIONS OF CUBA...AND SOUTHERN FLORIDA AND THE KEYS
DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS.

Map of the Bahamas to see where the lowest pressure is....

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4175. extreme236 12:14 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Hmmm...

22/1145 UTC 21.6N 73.9W T1.0/1.0 97L -- Atlantic
22/1145 UTC 21.0N 94.3W T1.0/1.0 98L -- Atlantic
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4176. MahFL 12:14 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
I can see the LLC now forming just north of eastern Cuba, seems to be West movement, if thats the case it will make a Cuba landfall.
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4177. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 12:15 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
XX/XX/97L
MARK
21.6N/74.1W
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4178. extreme236 12:15 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Those T-numbers should be higher, that doesn't make much sense to me...but I will see what the TAFB says.
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4179. MiamiHurricanes09 12:15 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting extreme236:


I could see 98L being a TD at 11am if the T-numbers do jump to 2.0.
It's low appears to be a little broad but could however become a tropical depression very soon and a tropical storm thereafter. Apparently it is stationary at the moment, that might give it some more time to tighten up.
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4180. CybrTeddy 12:16 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
AL, 97, 2010072212, 216N, 744W, 30, 1008, TD

Link


We usually see that right before a renumber. Once we get a renumber.. we'll have TD3.
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4182. Abacosurf 12:16 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Nice blow up of convection near the center. Really coming together. Amazing what a few hours and a visible can do.....
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4183. IKE 12:17 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting MahFL:
I can see the LLC now forming just north of eastern Cuba, seems to be West movement, if thats the case it will make a Cuba landfall.


If it moves WNW from the coordinates they have as the center, it will go north of Cuba.

Looks to head toward the Keys to extreme southern Florida.
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4184. MiamiHurricanes09 12:17 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting IKE:
SURFACE PRESSURES ARE FALLING IN THE CENTRAL AND SOUTHEASTERN
BAHAMAS AND SATELLITE IMAGES INDICATE A INCREASE SINCE YESTERDAY IN
THE ORGANIZATION OF THE SHOWER ACTIVITY ASSOCIATED WITH THE
TROPICAL WAVE. THE AREA OF LOWEST PRESSURE IS CENTERED BETWEEN THE
ISLANDS OF ACKLINS AND GREAT INAGUA...AND MOVING TOWARD THE
WEST-NORTHWEST AT 10 TO 15 MPH.
A TROPICAL DEPRESSION OR A TROPICAL
STORM COULD FORM AT ANY TIME TODAY...AND A RECONNAISSANCE PLANE
WILL INVESTIGATE THE SYSTEM THIS AFTERNOON. THERE IS A HIGH
CHANCE...70 PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE
DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS. SHOWERS AND STRONG GUSTY WINDS
ASSOCIATED WITH THIS DISTURBANCE WILL SPREAD OVER THE
BAHAMAS...PORTIONS OF CUBA...AND SOUTHERN FLORIDA AND THE KEYS
DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS.

Map of the Bahamas to see where the lowest pressure is....

If that is the low pressure area and it is moving towards the WNW, extrapolation would take it to the Florida keys.
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4185. WeatherNerdPR 12:17 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
I wouldn't be surprised to see both 97L and 98L become Bonnie and Colin this afternoon. Also, if 97L does develop a little stronger models might shift to the right a bit as a stronger system tends to move poleward.

Hi MH09. I feel bummed out because a racist blogger insulted Hispanics, and I'm puertorican, Hispanics are in my blood. Nice to see activity has increased in the Atlantic though.
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4186. GeoffreyWPB 12:17 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting CybrTeddy:


We usually see that right before a renumber. Once we get a renumber.. we'll have TD3.


Gotcha. Thanks Teddy.
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4187. extreme236 12:17 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
It's low appears to be a little broad but could however become a tropical depression very soon and a tropical storm thereafter. Apparently it is stationary at the moment, that might give it some more time to tighten up.


It does appear a bit broad I agree, but it's impressing me quite a bit...a bit moreso than 97L appearance wise.
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4188. MiamiHurricanes09 12:17 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Be back in 30 minutes.
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4190. scott39 12:17 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting IKE:


Those model runs should shift north some.
I dont like it when its on the W side of us!
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4191. CybrTeddy 12:18 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting extreme236:
98L could soon be a TD IMO. SAB at 06z gave 98L a T1.0...but the DT was 2.0, suggesting increasing organization to a TD.


NHC might just throw out the SAB..
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4192. MiamiHurricanes09 12:18 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting extreme236:


It does appear a bit broad I agree, but it's impressing me quite a bit...a bit moreso than 97L appearance wise.
Agreed.
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4193. IKE 12:18 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Probably tropical storm watches or warnings later today for southern Florida/Keys....Bahamas....maybe northern Cuba.
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4194. sporteguy03 12:18 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting Jeff9641:


Got to be right sometime StormW. Vorticity was supporting a center to form there that what i was trying to say yesterday and the models will shift back to S FL today. I still think a SE FL to NOLA system. Anyways thanks a lot buddy I appreciate your post as many others do on this blog as you are the real deal Weather Chief.


this system from the beginning reminded me of Erin per wiki:
The track of the center was pushed by an upper-level low, off the coast of Florida, onto a northwesterly track, from its west-northwest track. This change in the track had it cross only the northern part of the Bahamas and caused the storm to affect the central coast of Florida instead of south Florida. The steering currents associated with the upper-level low made Erin sped up to 17 mph, from a previous 6 mph, and diverted Erin up and around the northeastern portion of the upper-level low. As this was happening, the system experienced shearing, that permitted the system to only have slow strengthening. The shear eventually diminished somewhat however, and on the evening of the July 31, Erin was upgraded to a hurricane. The next day, an eye began to become apparent on satellite imagery. Early in the day on August 2, Erin made landfall at Vero Beach, Florida with winds around 85 mph (140 km/h).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Erin_(1995)
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4195. aquak9 12:20 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
havoc havoc havoc!

g'morning WU-Bloggers worldwide. Good evening Aussie if you're lurking.

Geeez Ike I JUST looked at NHC and it was two oranges. I mean just ten minutes ago it was 40%! Now it's up to 70% again??!!

A TROPICAL DEPRESSION OR A TROPICAL
STORM COULD FORM AT ANY TIME TODAY.


couldn't they at least have said, today or tomorrow??

HAVOC!!
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4196. extreme236 12:20 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting CybrTeddy:


NHC might just throw out the SAB..


Yeah. They tend to favor the TAFB a bit more anyways.
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4197. GeoffreyWPB 12:20 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
It looks as if, at the least, some TS watches will go up sometime this morning or early afternoon.
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4198. Thundercloud01221991 12:20 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting IKE:
Probably tropical storm watches or warnings later today for southern Florida/Keys....Bahamas....maybe northern Cuba.


dont forget we may also have TS watches in TX today from 98L meaning that we will need to watch 2 places in the US later today.... where do you think weather channel will be if that were to happen
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4199. portcharlotte 12:20 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
As I said earlier....there will be a new COC forming under the deep convection. The COC seen going into Cuba is meaningless!
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4200. MahFL 12:21 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Just imagine the hype if a TS enters the GOM !
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4201. Snowlover123 12:21 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Good Morning! 97L, and 98L!? Whats next? This is starting to get exciting, and we should have Bonnie and Colin when this day ends!
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