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97L gets disrupted by Hispaniola
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 12:53 GMT le 21 juillet 2010 +5
A tropical wave (Invest 97L) near the north coast of Hispaniola has been disrupted by interaction with the island, plus the effects of moderate wind shear of 10 - 20 knots. The storm is no longer a threat to develop into a tropical depression today, and the Hurricane Hunter flight that was scheduled for today has been postponed until Thursday. The disturbance has brought heavy rains of 8+ inches to Culebra, Vieques, the Virgin Islands, and some of the northern Lesser Antilles Islands. Wunderblogger Weather456 reported that the power was knocked out on the island of St. Kitts for about 24 hours, due to the intense lightning associated with 97L. All of Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands are under flash flood watches today.

Satellite images of 97L show a relatively meager number of heavy thunderstorms that are not well-organized. The curved bands to the north and east of the center have disappeared, and there is no evidence of low-level spiral banding or of a surface circulation. Surface observations over the northern Dominican Republic show only light winds, with no westerly winds indicating that a surface circulation is forming. Long-range radar loops from San Juan show a much reduced amount of thunderstorm activity.


Figure 1. Total radar-estimate rainfall for 97L.

Track Forecast for 97L
The storm is in a fairly straightforward steering current environment, and 97L should progress steadily to the west-northwest through Saturday. The rains from 97L's thunderstorms will bring the threat of isolated flooding to the Dominican Republic today, and to Haiti on today and Thursday. Heavy rains from 97L will affect eastern Cuba, the Turks and Caicos Islands, and the eastern Bahamas Thursday, and South and Central Florida can expect heavy rains to arrive Thursday night or Friday morning. The latest suite of model runs from 2am EDT this morning (6Z) foresee 97L making landfall on the Florida coast somewhere between Miami and Cape Canaveral on Friday, then continuing into the Gulf of Mexico on Saturday. Only the Canadian model foresees a threat to Texas, and the other models predict a second landfall between eastern Louisiana and the Florida Panhandle.

Intensity Forecast for 97L
The primary detriment to development of 97L today will be its close proximity to the landmass of Hispaniola. Once the storm pulls away from the island tonight, 97L has a better chance of development. Also hindering development over the next two days will be the presence of dry, stable air in its path over the Bahamas, thanks to the upper-level low to the north of the Dominican Republic. The SHIPS model predicts shear will stay in the moderate range, 10 - 20 knots, over the next three days, which should allow for some steady development of 97L on Thursday and Friday before it reaches Florida. NHC is giving 97L a 60% chance of developing into a tropical depression by Friday, which is a reasonable forecast. I think there is a 70% chance 97L will eventually become Tropical Storm Bonnie, sometime in the next five days. Sudden rapid development before 97L reaches Florida is unlikely, due to the storm's current state of disorganization and the dry air over the Bahamas. It's very unlikely that 97L has time to organize into a hurricane before hitting Florida. I put the odds of 97L making it to hurricane strength before reaching Florida at 5%, and I give a 20% chance it will be a hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico. The probability of 97L being a hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico will depend heavily upon how long the storm spends over water in the Gulf, which is very uncertain. The environment in the Gulf of Mexico should be favorable for intensification, if passage over Florida does not disrupt the storm too much.

I'll have a new post Thursday morning, or earlier if there's a major change to 97L.

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4301. FSUstormnut 12:42 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
any new model runs out yet? can someone post?
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4303. extreme236 12:42 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Calling it a TD is probably a good call for now until recon gets in there.
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4304. nrtiwlnvragn 12:42 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
SHIPS Text still using BAMM for track though.

* ATLANTIC SHIPS INTENSITY FORECAST *
* GOES DATA AVAILABLE *
* OHC DATA AVAILABLE *
* THREE AL032010 07/22/10 12 UTC *
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4305. gator23 12:43 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
yes
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4306. scott39 12:43 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
We've got our water and perishable foods awaiting future Bonnie. Tomorrow night I'll likely be on here most of the night unless power goes out.
Theres the start of all the "D" batteries, water, and can food dissapearing. LOL
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4307. Clearwater1 12:43 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting Jeff9641:


Also up to Tampa Bay as 97L could be close by Friday night or Sat. AM.
Jeff, models seem to point it further away from tampa bay area, what's your reasoning for thinking tb area by friday. Maybe new models i'v not seen. tia
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4308. Stormchaser2007 12:43 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
What a difference a day makes.

Im actually impressed.

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4309. cg2916 12:43 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
AL, 03, 2010072212, , BEST, 0, 216N, 744W, 30, 1008, TD, 34, NEQ,
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4310. chrisdscane 12:43 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
wuts the link for the latest modcels
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4311. Goldenblack 12:43 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Good morning all,

Waking up to double barrel action this morning. Got to say I am not shocked, but after yesterday morning, did not know how our systems would do today.

Storm trackers love it....other part of me says "uh oh"...
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4312. Capnbilll 12:43 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
One feature I would like to see on this site is a predicted tropical wave time. I've noticed the waves come of off the coast of africa peridically. and once a wave is sighted it moves fairly predictably westward by prevailing + steering winds. We still don't have exact knowledge of whether it will develop or where it will make landfall, but it would be helpfull for planning to know for example(I.E. a well developed wave will cross -80Lon on Jul 21-23) a week or so in advance. It may not be a hurricane, but you wouldn't want to fly there to fish those days anyway.
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4313. CyclonicVoyage 12:43 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting gator23:

they look goo dnow. Last I checked Jupiter is in South Florida.


That's debatable. We typically don't get much from a system all they way down in Miami / Keys.
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4314. Waltanater 12:43 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Told ya these storms form quickly! Could be looking at Katrina Part II, or her sister, Bonnie! I know there are other factors, but this storm does have a similar starting point and projected path, at least at this time.
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4315. CybrTeddy 12:43 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting Stormchaser2007:
What a difference a day makes.

Im actually impressed.



TD3/Bonnie looks pretty good.. same with 98L.
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4316. MiamiHurricanes09 12:43 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting coffeecrusader:
Once we have a TD or TS, the next set of model runs should give us a better idea where Bonny will be going. I am predicting a shift back to the right with a stronger storm. Any thoughts?
Small shift towards the right, nothing major.
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4317. DaytonaBeachWatcher 12:44 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting CybrTeddy:
Personally, I think 97L will jump straight to Bonnie. Surface obs have been showing 39+ mph winds in the Grand Turks.

I think so too, because it is so close to landfall.
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4318. 954FtLCane 12:44 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
correct me if i'm wrong but most of the westerly pointing models were taking into account a weak system.. one not being pulled poleward.... would this mean that a strengthening system would change the models and point them more wnw to nw into s fla?
Not an sfla-upcaster here just trying to learn thats all
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4319. texascoastres 12:44 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
MiamiH09 can you please post the link to the site that gives the model tracks with the timeframe dots on it. Thanks
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4321. scott39 12:44 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting Waltanater:
Told ya these storms form quickly! Could be looking at Katrina Part II, or her sister, Bonnie! I know there are other factors, but this storm does have a similar starting point and projected path, at least at this time.
Shush yo mouth!
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4322. WeatherNerdPR 12:44 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting CybrTeddy:
!!!!!
VISIBLE SATELLITE IMAGES AND OBSERVATIONS FROM THE BAHAMAS INDICATE
THAT THE AREA OF LOW PRESSURE IN THE SOUTHEASTERN BAHAMAS HAS
BECOME BETTER ORGANIZED AND A CLOSED CIRCULATION HAS FORMED.
ADVISORIES ON A TROPICAL DEPRESSION OR A TROPICAL STORM WILL BE
INITIATED AT 11 AM EDT...1500 UTC TODAY. THIS ADVISORY WILL LIKELY
INCLUDE TROPICAL STORM WATCHES AND WARNINGS FOR PORTIONS OF THE
BAHAMAS AND SOUTHERN FLORIDA.



O_O Hallelujah!
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4323. Goldenblack 12:44 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Storm got serious about 11pm last night, I watched it coming together until about 1am (EDT) before I went to bed...really didn't expect this SC2007

Quoting Stormchaser2007:
What a difference a day makes.

Im actually impressed.

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4324. CybrTeddy 12:44 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
The gospel aka ECMWF never developed TD3/Bonnie..
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4325. connie1976 12:45 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Storm,

Do you think that it will be just a wave or depression?
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4326. extreme236 12:45 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
It's important to remember that anything on the ATCF is subject to change at the advisory time. It could say TD 3 and we could actually get Bonnie. All depends on the latest data the NHC gets.
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4327. reedzone 12:45 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Sorry 98L ... 97L beat you to it.. but we can call you Colin, how bout that? Beside you're a larger system, Colin fits your criteria. Bonnie heads to Florida yet again for the second time.
(Bonnie hit FL in 2004)
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4328. Goldenblack 12:45 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
I agree, but until we have evidence of such...and out of respect, lets not say the K word too much?

Quoting Waltanater:
Told ya these storms form quickly! Could be looking at Katrina Part II, or her sister, Bonnie! I know there are other factors, but this storm does have a similar starting point and projected path, at least at this time.
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4329. est1986 12:45 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting est1986:
It will be TS Bonnie by noon today. Bet me!


Maybe I am right?!
4330. chrisdscane 12:45 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
phill ferro from wsve just it;ll be a SFl evennt ya every one is thinkin the same thing
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4331. gator23 12:46 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting 954FtLCane:
correct me if i'm wrong but most of the westerly pointing models were taking into account a weak system.. one not being pulled poleward.... would this mean that a strengthening system would change the models and point them more wnw to nw into s fla?
Not an sfla-upcaster here just trying to learn thats all

yes you will be in a tropical storm warning.
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4332. MiamiHurricanes09 12:46 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting texascoastres:
MiamiH09 can you please post the link to the site that gives the model tracks with the timeframe dots on it. Thanks
As soon as I get on my main computer in a couple of minutes I'll give you them.
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4333. WeatherNerdPR 12:46 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
We've got our water and perishable foods awaiting future Bonnie. Tomorrow night I'll likely be on here most of the night unless power goes out.

Good thing you're prepared, since you are one of the most respected bloggers.
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4334. Goldenblack 12:46 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Looking like it could go straight to Boonie, does it not extreme?

Quoting extreme236:
It's important to remember that anything on the ATCF is subject to change at the advisory time. It could say TD 3 and we could actually get Bonnie. All depends on the latest data the NHC gets.
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4335. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 12:47 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
JCM stop with the fake info please we try to be accurate and follow NHC NAVY guidance here you defeat that purpose your not that stupid are you
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4336. Hardcoreweather2010 12:47 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
BEGIN
NHC_ATCF
invest_al032010.invest
FSTDA
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040
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NONE
NOTIFY=ATRP
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4338. extreme236 12:47 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Not much change to 98L. It moved .7W and .2N

AL, 98, 2010072212, , BEST, 0, 207N, 949W, 25, 1008, DB
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4339. Orcasystems 12:47 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting Jeff9641:


It's wrong man the center reformed last night about 75 miles nne.


I cannot find anything to support those pictures being wrong. Models and weather match, unless the whole system is wrong...models/weather/radar.
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4341. Stormchaser2007 12:47 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Tropical Storm Bonnie 2004.

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4342. Hurricanes12 12:48 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Does anyone think that TD3 will likely become a TS?

Also, is the shifting track north true? I have not seen the latest model runs.
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4344. canefreak 12:48 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Anyone want to a guess/comment on when/where the TS warnings will go up for Florida? I am thinking East Coast up to Melbourne and southern FL including the Keys and SW Fl up to Venice......
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4345. CybrTeddy 12:48 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Not trying to wishcast, scare people, as conditions are totally different but the last time a storm formed where TD3/Bonnie formed was Katrina. Won't be another Katrina though, conditions are totally different.
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4346. StormHype 12:48 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting est1986:


Maybe I am right?!


Quoting yourself... now that's pathetic. lol
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4347. gator23 12:49 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting Goldenblack:
I agree, but until we have evidence of such...and out of respect, lets not say the K word too much?


no! different set up, K was moving west and formed closer.
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4348. WeatherNerdPR 12:49 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting Stormchaser2007:
What a difference a day makes.

Im actually impressed.


It doesn't look like the roadkill it was 24hrs ago, it looks like a TS.
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4349. 7544 12:49 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
not 36 hours tho more like the old 24 hour warning so fla gets caught offgaurd again now the rush will be on here comes the madness lol but the 100 % should open everyones eyes it could be 60mph for so fla
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4350. LightningCharmer 12:49 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Wunderground better check, check and recheck your servers. Tropical system heading for Florida means ------ Hyper-Blog!
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4351. tkeith 12:49 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting Royallypalmbeaches:
Morning all .TKeith on post 4204 could you give me the link for the site page to that WV imagery. Thanks
open the link, then add to favoreites...I think that will work.
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