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TD 3 growing more organized
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 20:01 GMT le 22 juillet 2010 +4
Tropical Depression Three is steadily organizing, and appears poised to become a much stronger storm than was forecast. Water vapor satellite loops show that the upper level low to the west of TD 3 that has been bringing high levels of wind shear to the storm is now moving faster to the west than predicted. This faster motion has resulted in a reduction in wind shear over TD 3, to a moderate 10 knots. Satellite images of TD 3 show that the storm is taking advantage of the lower shear by developing several low-level spiral bands to the north and east of the center. However, the center of circulation is still exposed to view, and dry air is still getting injected into the core of the storm from the southwest. The storm's heavy thunderstorms have not increased in intensity this afternoon, and the amount of heavy thunderstorm activity near the core of the storm is still limited. TD 3 will need to build more intense thunderstorms near its center before significant intensification can occur. TD 3 is a small storm, and surface observations in the Bahamas do not show the circulation very well. An outer rain band of TD 3 is now visible on Miami long-range radar, and a flood watch has been issued for all of South Florida. The Hurricane Hunters are in the storm at present, and have found top surface winds of 35 - 40 mph.


Figure 1. Afternoon satellite image of TD 3.

Track Forecast for TD 3
The storm is in a straightforward steering current environment, and TD 3 should progress steadily to the west-northwest through Sunday. This will bring the storm ashore over the Florida Keys or South Florida on Friday, and into the Gulf of Mexico on Saturday. The latest set of model runs from 8am EDT (12Z) foresee a track more to the north than the previous set of model runs. This increases the threat to the oil spill region, and I give a 40% chance that the oil spill region will see tropical storm force winds of 39 mph or higher this weekend. Oil recovery and relief well drilling operations should cease. If TD 3 makes a direct hit on the oil spill region as a tropical storm with 50 - 60 mph winds, it will likely drive a storm surge of 3 - 6 feet with high waves on top into the Louisiana marshlands, fouling a large area with oil. Oil would also penetrate into Lake Pontchartrain, which lies just two feet above sea level. However, the wave action of the storm will dilute the oil to some degree, which may limit the damage to the marshlands.

If you are wondering about the specific probabilities of receiving tropical storm force winds at your location, I recommend the wind probability product from NHC. The latest 5 pm probabilities of various locations getting tropical storm force winds, 39 mph or higher:

Marathon 55%
Marco Island 43%
Miami 34%
New Orleans 33%
Galveston 13%

Intensity Forecast for TD 3
The primary detriment to development of TD 3 for the next three days will be the presence of the large upper-level low to its west. If the low remains in its present location, relative to TD 3, it will bring wind shear of about 10 knots to the storm. This will allow for steady intensification of perhaps 20 mph per day, and TD 3 could be a hurricane by Sunday at that pace. However, if the upper-level low slows down a bit, relative to TD 3, more shear and dry air will affect the storm, potentially weakening it. None of the computer models is calling for TD 3 to strengthen into a hurricane, but if the shear continues at 10 knots, I expect TD 3 will become a hurricane. My low-confidence intensity forecast gives TD 3 a 40% chance of becoming a hurricane. NHC is putting the odds of TD 3 being a hurricane at 2 pm Sunday at 15% with their 5pm advisory.

98L
An area of disturbed weather (98L) has developed in the Gulf of Mexico's Bay of Campeche. This system is under a low amount of shear, 5 - 10 knots, and probably does not have enough time to organize into a tropical depression before making landfall along the Mexican coast a few hundred miles south of the Texas border on Friday.

Resources for the BP oil disaster
Map of oil spill location from the NOAA Satellite Services Division
My post, What a hurricane would do the Deepwater Horizon oil spill
My post on the Southwest Florida "Forbidden Zone" where surface oil will rarely go
My post on what oil might do to a hurricane
NOAA's interactive mapping tool to overlay wind and ocean current forecasts, oil locations, etc.
Gulf Oil Blog from the UGA Department of Marine Sciences
Oil Spill Academic Task Force
University of South Florida Ocean Circulation Group oil spill forecasts
ROFFS Deepwater Horizon page
Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) imagery from the University of Miami

Next update
I'll have an update in the morning. ABC World News Tonight will probably show a sound bite I did for them today, on their 6:30pm broadcast.

Jeff Masters
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551. ElConando 21:36 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting Seflhurricane:
Time: 21:04:00Z
Coordinates: 23.0167N 74.7333W
Acft. Static Air Press: 987.5 mb (~ 29.16 inHg)
Acft. Geopotential Hgt: 183 meters (~ 600 feet)
Extrap. Sfc. Press: 1008.2 mb (~ 29.77 inHg)
D-value: -
Flt. Lvl. Wind (30s): From 110° at 40 knots (From the ESE at ~ 46.0 mph)
Air Temp: 25.0°C (~ 77.0°F)
Dew Pt: 21.4°C (~ 70.5°F)
Peak (10s) Flt. Lvl. Wind: 42 knots (~ 48.3 mph)
SFMR Peak (10s) Sfc. Wind: 38 knots (~ 43.7 mph)
SFMR Rain Rate: 7 mm/hr (~ 0.28 in/hr)
(*) Denotes suspect data

recent pass we are at TS status


That ain't a vort fix so not convinced yet.
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552. Hurricanes101 21:36 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
I understand that, I'm just showing the difference between the 5PM advisory and where the 1005.6mb reading was located.


21:18:00Z 22.783N 75.333W 987.5 mb
(~ 29.16 inHg) 159 meters
(~ 522 feet) 1005.6 mb
(~ 29.70 inHg)


I see it right about where the 5pm was
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553. tropicfreak 21:36 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting Drakoen:
It looks like TD3 is on track for a south Florida Landfall. System is east of the forecast points. On another note, TD3 is getting better organized, you can see how the system has managed to wrap around convection on the western side on satellite imagery.


Thats what I was saying. You stole mine. LOL!!
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554. Tazmanian 21:37 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
i like too see a few more pass this too make sure
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555. Seflhurricane 21:37 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Time: 21:05:00Z
Coordinates: 22.9833N 74.7667W
Acft. Static Air Press: 988.0 mb (~ 29.18 inHg)
Acft. Geopotential Hgt: 174 meters (~ 571 feet)
Extrap. Sfc. Press: 1008.0 mb (~ 29.77 inHg)
D-value: -
Flt. Lvl. Wind (30s): From 111° at 36 knots (From the ESE at ~ 41.4 mph)
Air Temp: 23.1°C (~ 73.6°F)
Dew Pt: 21.0°C (~ 69.8°F)
Peak (10s) Flt. Lvl. Wind: 38 knots (~ 43.7 mph)
SFMR Peak (10s) Sfc. Wind: 43 knots (~ 49.4 mph)

SFMR Rain Rate: 23 mm/hr (~ 0.91 in/hr)
(*) Denotes suspect data

Here is another one looking real good
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556. Grothar 21:37 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Just my many, many, many years of watching these tropical storms, when they pass to the South, the majority of the rain is to the North. Depending on how strong the system is as it approaches the Keys, it should still be a large rain event perhaps as far North as Palm Beach County.
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557. tropicfreak 21:37 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting FLdewey:
This blog is like teen night at the local skating rink.


YEAH!!
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558. leo305 21:37 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting Floodman:


Hot towers are pretty exclusively eyewall features...no eye, no eyewall, no eyewall, no hot towers (at least in this context)


then a huge area of intense convection is beginning to erupt near the center.
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559. Hurricanes101 21:37 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting ElConando:


That ain't a vort fix so not convinced yet.


you dont always get the strongest winds in the vortex message I have noticed

I have seen with most systems the actual winds reported by the NHC in advisories is higher than the highest surface wind reported in the vortex messages
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560. mcluvincane 21:37 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting tropicfreak:
Storm, hurrkat(or stormkat) has a question for you about the ULL.


Hahahahaha.
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561. ElConando 21:37 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting Floodman:


Hot towers are pretty exclusively eyewall features...no eye, no eyewall, no eyewall, no hot towers (at least in this context)


He wast talking about the tower of mash potatoes he left out side. It became hot, so it went boom, to the floor.
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562. MiamiHurricanes09 21:37 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting Hurricanes101:


21:18:00Z 22.783N 75.333W 987.5 mb
(~ 29.16 inHg) 159 meters
(~ 522 feet) 1005.6 mb
(~ 29.70 inHg)


I see it right about where the 5pm was
Weird. I Wonder where I got that location from.
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563. tropicfreak 21:37 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Looking at the satelite presentations it appears that TD3 made a more northerly shift.
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564. StadiumEffect 21:38 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting Patrap:
Floater - Rainbow Color Infrared Loop

Looking quite ragged at the moment.
565. Patrap 21:38 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
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566. Drakoen 21:38 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
I understand that, I'm just showing the difference between the 5PM advisory and where the 1005.6mb reading was located.


Time: 21:18:00Z
Coordinates: 22.7833N 75.3333W
Acft. Static Air Press: 987.5 mb (~ 29.16 inHg)
Acft. Geopotential Hgt: 159 meters (~ 522 feet)
Extrap. Sfc. Press: 1005.6 mb (~ 29.70 inHg)
D-value: -
Flt. Lvl. Wind (30s): From 356° at 4 knots (From the N at ~ 4.6 mph)
Air Temp: 25.1°C (~ 77.2°F)
Dew Pt: 21.6°C (~ 70.9°F)
Peak (10s) Flt. Lvl. Wind: 7 knots (~ 8.0 mph)
SFMR Peak (10s) Sfc. Wind: 20 knots (~ 23.0 mph)
SFMR Rain Rate: 3 mm/hr (~ 0.12 in/hr)
(*) Denotes suspect data
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568. ElConando 21:38 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting Hurricanes101:


you dont always get the strongest winds in the vortex message I have noticed

I have seen with most systems the actual winds reported by the NHC in advisories is higher than the highest surface wind reported in the vortex messages


Well because they round. The previous Vort fix has winds around 33-34mph.
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571. 34chip 21:38 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting Tazmanian:



at lest FL is out of the woods un lees you live int he FL keys that is
Am in Key West. Got my Hrricane items Vodka and Cranberry in hand!
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572. neonlazer 21:38 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting Patrap:


Watch out Miami! Here it comes!!!!
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573. Becca36 21:38 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting Drakoen:


No. The center is located up near 22.8N 75.3W. System continues to move to the NW.

What do you think of the current track Drakoen? Do you feel it will shift more to the east? TIA
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574. leo305 21:38 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting ElConando:


He wast talking about the tower of mash potatoes he left out side. It became hot, so it went boom, to the floor.


no I'm talking about the area of convection erupting near the center of TD 3..

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575. earthlydragonfly 21:39 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting hydrus:
Take a look at this loop. You can see the ULL moving rapidly west and trying(and shearing) 97L in a N.W. direction.Link


I know one thing ... I am seeing less and less of the COC. which could mean one of two things. Intensification or sheer. I will assume for the moment that it is intensification since I am seeing towers going up on this one close to the COC.
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576. Patrap 21:39 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
NEXRAD Radar
Miami, Storm Relative Mean Radial Velocity 0.50 Degree Elevation Range 124 NMI

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577. neonlazer 21:39 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting StormW:


Looking at the 18Z model runs, I'd say there's pretty good consensus. In fact, the OFCI track looks good. Could be a tad left possibly, but I'll have a better idea once I can check out the updated steering layers later this eve.

18Z STATISTICAL


18Z DYNAMIC

Mind posting the link to the site where you get these?
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578. Canealum03 21:39 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
A nice blow-up around the COC.

Link
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579. SomeRandomTexan 21:40 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Hey Scottsvb---

What is your take on the system
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580. usa777 21:40 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
317. hurrkat05 8:57 PM GMT on July 22, 2010
YOU NEED TO LISTEN TO ME REED THIS IS JUST GOING TO BE A RAIN MAKER...IF THIS IS NOT A TROPICAL STORM BY 11PM IT WILL NEVER BE...

______________________________

Someone needs a beer and a good nap..lol
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581. unf97 21:40 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting Drakoen:


No. The center is located up near 22.8N 75.3W. System continues to move to the NW.


That is about right in terms of the COC position.

The NW movement is lasting a little longer than I thought it would. But, heights are rising just to the N/NW of the cyclone, so I expect the ridge to the north to begin to build in overnight and the system should resume a west - west/northwest motion very shortly.

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582. MiamiHurricanes09 21:40 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting Drakoen:


Time: 21:18:00Z
Coordinates: 22.7833N 75.3333W
Acft. Static Air Press: 987.5 mb (~ 29.16 inHg)
Acft. Geopotential Hgt: 159 meters (~ 522 feet)
Extrap. Sfc. Press: 1005.6 mb (~ 29.70 inHg)
D-value: -
Flt. Lvl. Wind (30s): From 356° at 4 knots (From the N at ~ 4.6 mph)
Air Temp: 25.1°C (~ 77.2°F)
Dew Pt: 21.6°C (~ 70.9°F)
Peak (10s) Flt. Lvl. Wind: 7 knots (~ 8.0 mph)
SFMR Peak (10s) Sfc. Wind: 20 knots (~ 23.0 mph)
SFMR Rain Rate: 3 mm/hr (~ 0.12 in/hr)
(*) Denotes suspect data
Then these are wrong:

211800 2247N 07520W 9875 00159 0056 +251 +216 356004 007 020 003 00
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583. pottery 21:40 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting Patrap:
Best Batten down the curtains,..

er...I mean Hatches,,hatches

Well, curtains too. Especially the plastic ones with fishies........
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585. Floodman 21:40 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting ElConando:


He wast talking about the tower of mash potatoes he left out side. It became hot, so it went boom, to the floor.


LOL
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586. Tazmanian 21:40 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
rita part 2?

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587. Hurricanes101 21:40 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting ElConando:


Well because they round. The previous Vort fix has winds around 33-34mph.


the 10th recon flight for Alex has the pressure at 973mb but top surface winds recorded at only 54mph

That was when Alex was already a hurricane
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588. ecflweatherfan 21:40 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting Drakoen:


Time: 21:18:00Z
Coordinates: 22.7833N 75.3333W
Acft. Static Air Press: 987.5 mb (~ 29.16 inHg)
Acft. Geopotential Hgt: 159 meters (~ 522 feet)
Extrap. Sfc. Press: 1005.6 mb (~ 29.70 inHg)
D-value: -
Flt. Lvl. Wind (30s): From 356° at 4 knots (From the N at ~ 4.6 mph)
Air Temp: 25.1°C (~ 77.2°F)
Dew Pt: 21.6°C (~ 70.9°F)
Peak (10s) Flt. Lvl. Wind: 7 knots (~ 8.0 mph)
SFMR Peak (10s) Sfc. Wind: 20 knots (~ 23.0 mph)
SFMR Rain Rate: 3 mm/hr (~ 0.12 in/hr)
(*) Denotes suspect data


This is a very interesting reading... Indicates that the system is moving NNW and strengthening. Saw flight level winds to the ENE of the CoC of 46 mph. Hmmmmm.... Interesting!
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589. portcharlotte 21:40 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting Tazmanian:



a yelling caster


Taz, everyone....we need to get rid of this hurrikat05...he's been on all day. Just an obnoxious brat!!! GET LOST HURRIKAT05!
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590. GainesvilleGator 21:40 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
TD 3 is very close to where Hurricane Katrina formed. This would be a very dangerous situation if that ULL was not present.
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591. Tazmanian 21:41 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting StormW:


POOF?



yes i think that would put a good word too put it at
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593. Patrap 21:41 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
NEXRAD Radar
Miami, Velocity Azimuth Display Wind Profile Range 124 NMI


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594. PensacolaDoug 21:41 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting FLdewey:
This blog is like teen night at the local skating rink.


Only less organized...
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596. tropicfreak 21:41 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting portcharlotte:


Taz, everyone....we need to get rid of this hurrikat05...he's been on all day. Just an obnoxious brat!!! GET LOST HURRIKAT05!


ITS A SHE
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598. TexasHurricane 21:42 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting Tazmanian:
rita part 2?



yeah, that would be something wouldn't it...
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599. Baybuddy 21:42 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
Quoting NOLALawyer:
This place is like a man, on the verge of death in the desert....being handed a Dixie Cup of water. So desperate for something to track and watch. I can literally wear myself out reading a day's worth of posts here. I can't wait to see it around here when the Eye of Sauron is out at sea and bearing down.

Several hundred blind men trying to describe an elephant.
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601. zoomiami 21:43 GMT le 22 juillet 2010    
What models will have the information that is being gathered by the hurricane hunters now?
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