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TD 3 growing more organized
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 20:01 GMT le 22 juillet 2010 +4
Tropical Depression Three is steadily organizing, and appears poised to become a much stronger storm than was forecast. Water vapor satellite loops show that the upper level low to the west of TD 3 that has been bringing high levels of wind shear to the storm is now moving faster to the west than predicted. This faster motion has resulted in a reduction in wind shear over TD 3, to a moderate 10 knots. Satellite images of TD 3 show that the storm is taking advantage of the lower shear by developing several low-level spiral bands to the north and east of the center. However, the center of circulation is still exposed to view, and dry air is still getting injected into the core of the storm from the southwest. The storm's heavy thunderstorms have not increased in intensity this afternoon, and the amount of heavy thunderstorm activity near the core of the storm is still limited. TD 3 will need to build more intense thunderstorms near its center before significant intensification can occur. TD 3 is a small storm, and surface observations in the Bahamas do not show the circulation very well. An outer rain band of TD 3 is now visible on Miami long-range radar, and a flood watch has been issued for all of South Florida. The Hurricane Hunters are in the storm at present, and have found top surface winds of 35 - 40 mph.


Figure 1. Afternoon satellite image of TD 3.

Track Forecast for TD 3
The storm is in a straightforward steering current environment, and TD 3 should progress steadily to the west-northwest through Sunday. This will bring the storm ashore over the Florida Keys or South Florida on Friday, and into the Gulf of Mexico on Saturday. The latest set of model runs from 8am EDT (12Z) foresee a track more to the north than the previous set of model runs. This increases the threat to the oil spill region, and I give a 40% chance that the oil spill region will see tropical storm force winds of 39 mph or higher this weekend. Oil recovery and relief well drilling operations should cease. If TD 3 makes a direct hit on the oil spill region as a tropical storm with 50 - 60 mph winds, it will likely drive a storm surge of 3 - 6 feet with high waves on top into the Louisiana marshlands, fouling a large area with oil. Oil would also penetrate into Lake Pontchartrain, which lies just two feet above sea level. However, the wave action of the storm will dilute the oil to some degree, which may limit the damage to the marshlands.

If you are wondering about the specific probabilities of receiving tropical storm force winds at your location, I recommend the wind probability product from NHC. The latest 5 pm probabilities of various locations getting tropical storm force winds, 39 mph or higher:

Marathon 55%
Marco Island 43%
Miami 34%
New Orleans 33%
Galveston 13%

Intensity Forecast for TD 3
The primary detriment to development of TD 3 for the next three days will be the presence of the large upper-level low to its west. If the low remains in its present location, relative to TD 3, it will bring wind shear of about 10 knots to the storm. This will allow for steady intensification of perhaps 20 mph per day, and TD 3 could be a hurricane by Sunday at that pace. However, if the upper-level low slows down a bit, relative to TD 3, more shear and dry air will affect the storm, potentially weakening it. None of the computer models is calling for TD 3 to strengthen into a hurricane, but if the shear continues at 10 knots, I expect TD 3 will become a hurricane. My low-confidence intensity forecast gives TD 3 a 40% chance of becoming a hurricane. NHC is putting the odds of TD 3 being a hurricane at 2 pm Sunday at 15% with their 5pm advisory.

98L
An area of disturbed weather (98L) has developed in the Gulf of Mexico's Bay of Campeche. This system is under a low amount of shear, 5 - 10 knots, and probably does not have enough time to organize into a tropical depression before making landfall along the Mexican coast a few hundred miles south of the Texas border on Friday.

Resources for the BP oil disaster
Map of oil spill location from the NOAA Satellite Services Division
My post, What a hurricane would do the Deepwater Horizon oil spill
My post on the Southwest Florida "Forbidden Zone" where surface oil will rarely go
My post on what oil might do to a hurricane
NOAA's interactive mapping tool to overlay wind and ocean current forecasts, oil locations, etc.
Gulf Oil Blog from the UGA Department of Marine Sciences
Oil Spill Academic Task Force
University of South Florida Ocean Circulation Group oil spill forecasts
ROFFS Deepwater Horizon page
Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) imagery from the University of Miami

Next update
I'll have an update in the morning. ABC World News Tonight will probably show a sound bite I did for them today, on their 6:30pm broadcast.

Jeff Masters
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2601. Patrap 03:51 GMT le 23 juillet 2010    
keep an eye on er CCHS,..


Im gonna head to da WUnderland Upstairs.

Later gators and Cajuns.



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2602. gator23 03:51 GMT le 23 juillet 2010    
Quoting RobertM320:


And you've got more roads, a more affluent populaton and you're not below sea level.

folks, I am truly sorry if my basic fun fact somehow implied that Louisiana was overreacting to this storm. I will cease to ever speak about Louisiana again.
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2603. TropicalNonsense 03:51 GMT le 23 juillet 2010    
Quoting Kristina40:


It is going to hit Florida as a Tropical Storm and a weak one at that. They don't know for sure what it might be when it hits LA and it is going to run straight through the oil slick. They MUST err on the side of caution. If they are wrong, they get egg on their face and everybody forgets it in a few days. If they don't and this thing somehow intensifies they are called incompetent.



erring on the side of caution,and being prepared is neccessary!

but a state of emergency for the entire state of Louisana i wonder about so early?
atleast until a reliable forecast is put out.

for a very weak tropical storm 1,000 miles away?

but then again im just a blogger and im not running for office. [laughs]

In reality they should of already been prepared for this
along time ago considering we are already in the middle
of an active hurricanes season.

I just fear the consequences of crying wolf too much i guess.
It may hurt successful chances for future evacuations which
would not be a good thing.
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2604. ElConando 03:51 GMT le 23 juillet 2010    
Quoting atmoaggie:
Nope. Air boat is the only way to get to MS or TX. We all keep our cars in the Wallyworld parking lot in Gulfport.


And the people there all live like Bobby Bouchet, momma. Cookin alligator, mmmm.
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2606. angiest 03:52 GMT le 23 juillet 2010    
Quoting Detrina:
Sure they have roads, just not as many coming from the coast, at least that is my understanding from friends that went back after Katrina. From my understanding it would take them almost twice as long to get out in the event they needed to in the lower parish areas. I don't know that for a fact, just participating in the general conversation. Does it hurt anything for them to have their SOE if they think they need it?



More to the point, I doubt the lower LA parishes are served by very many freeways. Pat, am I right this is mostly 2 lane roads down there? And what freeways there might be would go into New Orleans anyway (or other large cities). That doesn't make evac any easier.
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2607. Orcasystems 03:52 GMT le 23 juillet 2010    
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2608. animalrsq 03:52 GMT le 23 juillet 2010    
Quoting Patrap:


Seems someone missed the Gustav Evac..

pffthhhhhhhhh.


www.evacuteer.org




On the morning of Saturday August 30th, 2008, in response to the approach of Hurricane Gustav, local officials activated the City Assisted Evacuation Plan for the first time since its inception in 2006. The purpose of the CAEP is “to help citizens who want to evacuate during an emergency, but lack the capability to self-evacuate,” by utilizing trains, buses, and planes. During the CAEP, over 200 volunteers assisted evacuation operations at the Union Passenger Terminal from which evacuees left the city. Volunteers were also on hand at City Hall inside the New Orleans 311 information center registering evacuees. An equal number were present to assist the re-entry of the 20,000 beneficiaries of the CAEP.

evacuee bus drop-off What Americans saw during the two days of evacuating were tens of thousands of New Orleanians leaving their city on chartered buses. What they didn’t see were volunteers, young and old, native and newly-moved, offering their skills and manpower to assist the evacuation.

They translated to non-English speakers. Helped seniors off platforms. Tagged pets with registration collars. Distributed water and snacks. Lugged heavy baggage. Many of these evacuation volunteers had no idea what was in store for them over the course of their time, but were willing to help however they were needed.

The Gustav CAEP was a success, but simultaneously revealed many areas that could be improved. Stronger initial coordination and planning, for example, would allow willing volunteers to report to pick-up locations across the city at pre-determined times rather than all converging on the embarkation stations. Early identification of job responsibilities combined with annual and pertinent trainings would allow specialized volunteers to more effectively and efficiently perform their duties. Finally, conducting outreach and establishing relationships with organizations that desire to assist the evacuation of high-need populations will allow greater empowerment of evacuation volunteers across the city.

Thus, Evacuteer.org was launched on June 2, 2009 as an organization of New Orleans citizens committed to serving as “evacuteers” upon the future initiation of the CAEP. The organization received its 501c3 charitable status in September 2009 and is committed to a public/private funding model.


Saw this firsthand. What a good job (after Katrina). The buses pulled up at the shelter in Shreveport, followed by the semis with the pets on board. We registered everyone's pets and the people went to the shelter net door. We sheltered 1100 animals there. Awesome job!
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2609. cchsweatherman 03:52 GMT le 23 juillet 2010    
Quoting omgonozohshite:


You are the man so far with this storm, spot on the whole way.

StormW speaks in such generalizations that he cant be right or wrong, LMFAO


Thanks man. I try my best, take pride in my forecasting, and genuinely care about others. I don't turn it into an ego booster or competition like others on here.
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2610. scott39 03:52 GMT le 23 juillet 2010    
Quoting Levi32:


I still think it is. We'll see if it tries to put on some more distance from Bonnie over the next couple days, but I don't expect anything stronger in the gulf than what we are seeing now.
thanks, Do you know how many degrees in longitude or lattitude the ULL would have to be from Bonnie to have an effect and vise versa not to?
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2611. GetReal 03:52 GMT le 23 juillet 2010    
One point that has not been brought up here tonight (maybe I missed it) is that Bonnie has consolidated itself into a very small compact ball of consistent convection. These smaller systems only needs small gaps of favorable UL conditions to survive in, and in some cases strengthen unexpectedly.

That is why, IMO, that Bonnie can not be simply written off yet as just a rain event for S. Florida and the northern GOM.
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2613. angiest 03:52 GMT le 23 juillet 2010    
Blog hiccuped.
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2614. zoomiami 03:53 GMT le 23 juillet 2010    
First rain band coming in over my house. Fairly strong
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2615. xcool 03:53 GMT le 23 juillet 2010    
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2617. CosmicEvents 03:53 GMT le 23 juillet 2010    
Bonnie's got a cute little windfield of tropical storm force. We've seen eyes of cyclones that were bigger.
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2619. texascoastres 03:53 GMT le 23 juillet 2010    
Lots of back roads but I-10 is the main corridor headed west and i think east til around BR then 12 pops in
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2620. atmoaggie 03:54 GMT le 23 juillet 2010    
Quoting cattlebaroness:
I have some questions if y'all don't mind. Dr master suggested this could become a cane. Is that still underconsideration. It's a pretty short time frame
In my opinion, dry air aloft is the number one detriment to the possibility of a hurricane Bonnie. Evidence from the weather balloons at Nassau, Key West, and MIA. And there isn't going to be time to moisten enough, IMHO.

Another system that just didn't have the perfect mix of ingredients in the cauldron.
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2621. Orcasystems 03:54 GMT le 23 juillet 2010    
Quoting zoomiami:
First rain band coming in over my house. Fairly strong


Remember that rain day you asked for :)
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2623. 69Viking 03:54 GMT le 23 juillet 2010    
Quoting TampaSpin:


It appears the Ridge is going to break down faster then thought....i further track to the right will be coming.....Could be a Panhandle storm....IMO


I saw a map earlier today that depicted the ridge as two areas of High pressure, one in the central GOM and one quite a ways off the SE Coast of the U.S. What if there is a weakness between the two and Bonnie could find a way to slip between the two as it looks like it's trying to do with the NW motion we've seen since late this afternoon, food for thought. I'm no met so don't quote me on this, just a thought! I won't lose any sleep in the Panhandle over this one just yet that's for sure!
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2624. bappit 03:54 GMT le 23 juillet 2010    
Quoting pipelines:
I have to disagree with you on this one. If the fact the two centers are decoupled (which I think is very questionable at this point based on lack of evidence) the supposed LLC that you can see on the visible right before dusk is already so far removed at that time and moving so quickly away from the MLC that there is no way those two centers could be realigned in the future. That LLC will dissipate and the only chance Bonnie has of becoming vertically stacked again is forming a new LLC under the MLC.

Again I don't think the centers are decoupled, maybe not perfectly stacked, but not decoupled. I'm basing this on shortwave imagery which shows low level clouds pretty well at night and I see nothing south of Bonnie that resembles a naked LLC.

Just my 2 cents.


Good analysis.
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2625. chrisdscane 03:55 GMT le 23 juillet 2010    
HMM Unenhanced loop shows a much tighter circular storm ur thoughts?
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2626. Baybuddy 03:55 GMT le 23 juillet 2010    
Quoting gator23:

huh?
1)I am quite sure they have roads in Louisiana and I expect Patrap will be along shortly to confirm it.
2)Apparently you are not familiar with the term "food for thought" its like a fun fact.
I'm from Bama...You guys have parking lots? Whenever I go to wally world it takes a week for the red clay to wear off my feet.
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2628. zoomiami 03:56 GMT le 23 juillet 2010    
Rain day I would love - unfortunately I have to go to the office in the morning. Payrolls need to be done.
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2630. Ossqss 03:56 GMT le 23 juillet 2010    


Link to the animated version. Direction is the question.....

Link
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2631. cchsweatherman 03:56 GMT le 23 juillet 2010    
Recent satellite imagery shows the much anticipated turn towards a general WNW direction taking place tonight with some minor wobbles here and there. Also, convection seems to be gaining better appearance with a more symmetric convective mass taking shape. Seems to be trying to get somewhat better organized, although it remains relatively disorganized compared to this morning. Right now, I'm expecting a moderate tropical storm between 50 and 60 mph winds making landfall in Southern Miami Dade county tomorrow afternoon.
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2632. EricSFL 03:56 GMT le 23 juillet 2010    
Quoting chrisdscane:
HMM Unenhanced loop shows a much tighter circular storm ur thoughts?


I noticed the same thing.
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2633. atmoaggie 03:56 GMT le 23 juillet 2010    
Quoting angiest:



More to the point, I doubt the lower LA parishes are served by very many freeways. Pat, am I right this is mostly 2 lane roads down there? And what freeways there might be would go into New Orleans anyway (or other large cities). That doesn't make evac any easier.
I think you hit the nail on the head.
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2634. bappit 03:57 GMT le 23 juillet 2010    
Quoting angiest:



More to the point, I doubt the lower LA parishes are served by very many freeways. Pat, am I right this is mostly 2 lane roads down there? And what freeways there might be would go into New Orleans anyway (or other large cities). That doesn't make evac any easier.

I just thought any declarations of states of distress or otherwise at this stage were all oil spill related. Jeepers.
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2637. 954FtLCane 03:57 GMT le 23 juillet 2010    
Quoting Patrap:
keep an eye on er CCHS,..


Im gonna head to da WUnderland Upstairs.

Later gators and Cajuns.




and Canes!!!! Im not a Gator...how dare u...lol
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2638. cirrocumulus 03:57 GMT le 23 juillet 2010    
Florida State still working on new models:

Beside the dynamical clarification, why is it useful to
know the observed relation between skewness and kurtosis
of SST anomalies? First, it is useful as a benchmark
for ocean models. Do ocean models simulate the
correct non-Gaussian SST variability? An accurate representation
of the non-Gaussian tails of SST distributions
(extreme SST events) is crucial in the modeling
and prediction of many important weather and climate
phenomena, such as hurricanes, ENSO, North Atlantic
Oscillation (NAO), etc.
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2639. chrisdscane 03:58 GMT le 23 juillet 2010    
Quoting cchsweatherman:
Recent satellite imagery shows the much anticipated turn towards a general WNW direction taking place tonight with some minor wobbles here and there. Also, convection seems to be gaining better appearance with a more symmetric convective mass taking shape. Seems to be trying to get somewhat better organized, although it remains relatively disorganized compared to this morning. Right now, I'm expecting a moderate tropical storm between 50 and 60 mph winds making landfall in Southern Miami Dade county tomorrow afternoon.



dude uve nailed this storm i 1000000% agree
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2640. foggymyst 03:58 GMT le 23 juillet 2010    
Hiya Zoo, Hey Orca.. looks like some sprinkles and breezes heading my way
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2641. robert88 03:58 GMT le 23 juillet 2010    
Quoting chrisdscane:
sry for caps but ima scream it

KATRINA LOOKED WORSE WAS IN ABOUT THE SAME CONDITIONS WAS IN COOLER WATER ALITTLE LESS SHEAR AND NO UPPER LOW SO BASIKLY THE SAME SITUATION AND LOOKED WUT HAPPEN SRY FOR CAPS BUT IM VENTING


Not even close to that situation. Katrina's vorticity was perfectly round and vertically stacked as well. Upper level conditions were near perfect too. You won't have to worry about that replay.
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2642. SeniorPoppy 03:58 GMT le 23 juillet 2010    
Quoting Ossqss:


Link to the animated version. Direction is the question.....

Link


It's so cute. It can sit over my swimming pool and intensify lol.
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2643. gator23 03:58 GMT le 23 juillet 2010    
Quoting Baybuddy:
I'm from Bama...You guys have parking lots? Whenever I go to wally world it takes a week for the red clay to wear off my feet.

I was saying that they DO have roads there another blogger was saying they do not.
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2644. nolacane2009 03:58 GMT le 23 juillet 2010    
Quoting bappit:

I just thought any declarations of states of distress or otherwise at this stage were all oil spill related. Jeepers.


There is one road out of Grand Isle and one Road out of Venice. Once you hit the interstate you have your options. But you need to travel those one roads first.
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2645. angiest 03:58 GMT le 23 juillet 2010    
Quoting btwntx08:
look at steering expect the models to shift a bit left soon


It does look like that high has to backout soon. Or split in half. As to a cold front.... in July, I'll believe it comes this far south when I see it. :)
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2646. Progster 03:59 GMT le 23 juillet 2010    
Quoting atmoaggie:
In my opinion, dry air aloft is the number one detriment to the possibility of a hurricane Bonnie. Evidence from the weather balloons at Nassau, Key West, and MIA. And there isn't going to be time to moisten enough, IMHO.

Another system that just didn't have the perfect mix of ingredients in the cauldron.


There are irregular outbursts of deep convection but they seem to be associated with some of the small islands in the Bahamas chain..its like an unstable environment for sure but forcing from land-sea-air interaction is required to set off the deeper CBs..it doesn't seem to have a positive feedback loop set up...yet.
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2647. NCHurricane2009 03:59 GMT le 23 juillet 2010    
Quoting bappit:

Good analysis.


Yeah, I don't see a naked swirl either on the shortwave IR.

Quoting cchsweatherman:
Recent satellite imagery shows the much anticipated turn towards a general WNW direction taking place tonight with some minor wobbles here and there. Also, convection seems to be gaining better appearance with a more symmetric convective mass taking shape. Seems to be trying to get somewhat better organized, although it remains relatively disorganized compared to this morning. Right now, I'm expecting a moderate tropical storm between 50 and 60 mph winds making landfall in Southern Miami Dade county tomorrow afternoon.


I was thinking 60 to 90 mph winds early this afternoon (and, those winds will be TIGHTLY confined to the center of this compact tropical cyclone), yeah it seems reasonable to lower that to 60 to 70 IMO.
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2648. zoomiami 03:59 GMT le 23 juillet 2010    
Hey Foggy - heard you met my daughter.
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2649. Levi32 03:59 GMT le 23 juillet 2010    
Quoting scott39:
thanks, Do you know how many degrees in longitude or lattitude the ULL would have to be from Bonnie to have an effect and vise versa not to?


Well for tropical development where the upper low or TUTT is ventilating a system instead of shearing it, you usually want the tropical system to be 10-15 degrees of longitude east of the upper low, or 5-10 degrees of longitude west of the upper low. That's a generalization that can vary, but right now Bonnie is 7-8 degrees east of the upper low and that's still too close.
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2650. TampaSpin 03:59 GMT le 23 juillet 2010    
Divergence is pretty sick right now...which is rather strange as i would have thought the ULL would be helping to vent Bonnie some.....HUM



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2651. Orcasystems 03:59 GMT le 23 juillet 2010    
Quoting foggymyst:
Hiya Zoo, Hey Orca.. looks like some sprinkles and breezes heading my way


yes, no more watering for you two for a couple days
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