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99L a threat to develop; damage from Typhoon Megi still largely unknown
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 13:38 GMT le 19 octobre 2010 +3
Heavy thunderstorm activity has increased and grown more organized this morning over the southwestern Caribbean between Honduras and the Cayman Islands, in association with a tropical disturbance (Invest 99L). The storm is bringing heavy rain to the Cayman Islands; two inches has fallen so far this morning at Savannah on Grand Cayman Island. Recent satellite imagery shows that 99L has some rotation, and the winds on the northeast coast of Honduras at Puerto Lempira have shifted to the west-northwest, implying that 99L may be developing a surface circulation. Wind shear is a moderate 10 - 20 knots, which is low enough to allow some slow development. Water vapor satellite loops reveal that the atmosphere in the Western Caribbean is moist enough to support development, and the waters beneath are plenty warm, at 29°C. The latest SHIPS model forecast predicts that wind shear over the Western Caribbean will mostly remain in the moderate range, 10 - 20 knots, for the remainder of the week. The current north-northwest motion of 99L should continue until Wednesday, when a strong ridge of high pressure is forecast to build in, forcing 99L to the south or west. However, steering currents will be weak Wednesday through Friday, making it difficult to predict where 99L may wander to. The only models that develop 99L are the GFDL and HWRF. The GFDL model predicts that 99L will spend enough time over water to develop into a hurricane, and brings the storm to the coast of Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula on Sunday morning. The HWRF model has 99L making landfall over Honduras late this week, before the storm has a chance to develop into a hurricane. NHC is giving 99L a 40% chance of developing into a tropical depression by Thursday. I believe the odds are higher, near 60%. The Hurricane Hunters are on call to investigate 99L this afternoon.


Figure 1. Morning satellite image of Invest 99L.

Damage from Super Typhoon Megi still largely unknown
The power is still out and communications are down over the majority of the northern portion of the Philippines' Luzon Island blasted by Typhoon Megi yesterday, so the extent of the destruction wrought by the great storm is still largely unknown. Preliminary news reports indicate that at least 10 people died, and the northern Philippine province of Isabela suffered severe damage. Megi hit Luzon on Monday morning at 3:30 UTC as a Category 5 super typhoon with sustained winds of 165 mph and a central pressure of 914 mb. Baguio near the west coast of northern Luzon received 7.72" of rain from the storm, and many mountainous regions likely received over a foot of rain.


Figure 2. Rainfall rates in excess of 1 inch per hour (orange colors) were observed by the polar-orbiting F-18 satellite in association with Megi at 00:40 UTC October 19, 2010. Image credit: Navy Research Lab, Monterey.

Passage over Luzon Island destroyed Megi's eyewall and inner core region, and the storm compensated by expanding and intensifying the portions of its circulation that were over water. Now that its center is back over water in the South China Sea, Megi has re-developed its inner core and has built a formidable new eyewall. At the same time, Megi has been able to maintain its larger size, and is now a much larger typhoon than when it hit the Philippines. This is similar to what happened to Hurricane Ike in 2008 when it passed over Cuba, and helped give Ike a very destructive storm surge when it came ashore over Texas. Wind shear is a low 5 - 10 knots over Megi, and the waters of the South China sea have a very high total heat content to great depth, so Megi should be able to intensify into a very dangerous Category 4 storm by Thursday. The larger size of Megi means that it will be able to deliver a significant storm surge in excess of ten feet to the coast of China of Friday or Saturday, when the storm is expected to make landfall near Hong Kong. As the storm approaches the coast on Friday, wind shear is expected to rise to the moderate or high range, and the total heat content of the ocean will drop significantly, so some weakening is to be expected. Still, Megi will probably hit China as a major Category 3 typhoon,bringing a significant storm surge, high winds, and widespread torrential rains that will likely make this a multi-billion dollar disaster for China.

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151. utilaeastwind 17:08 GMT le 19 octobre 2010    
Richard stationary....

Memories of Mitch!!
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152. sunlinepr 17:09 GMT le 19 octobre 2010    
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153. scott39 17:11 GMT le 19 octobre 2010    
Goodmorning, Looks like 99L may want to get into the GOM. I saw last week where the stearing currents would be farther N this time compared to Paula. Hopefully wind shear will take care of a threat from 99L in the GOM.
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154. katadman 17:12 GMT le 19 octobre 2010    
Quoting sunlinepr:


Dayum!
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155. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 17:12 GMT le 19 octobre 2010    
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156. toddbizz 17:13 GMT le 19 octobre 2010    
thanks to the Reedzone.....
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157. pottery 17:14 GMT le 19 octobre 2010    
Afternoon all.
A nice squall just passing through here. Thunder with it, but no rain as yet . Seems to be raining heavy just north of here.

Post 152, that's looking Good!
Or Bad!
Or Something...
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158. smartinwx 17:16 GMT le 19 octobre 2010    
it looks like the models agree to disagree on 99L.
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159. Waltanater 17:16 GMT le 19 octobre 2010    
Quoting utilaeastwind:
Richard stationary....

Memories of Mitch!!
Rhymes with "Rich!" Ah the good ol' days!
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160. PakaSurvivor 17:18 GMT le 19 octobre 2010    
Quoting utilaeastwind:
Richard stationary....

Memories of Mitch!!


Does it make any difference that Mitch started as a tropic wave off the coast of Africa and this future storm was started at it's current location?
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161. oracle28 17:19 GMT le 19 octobre 2010    
Quoting smartinwx:
it looks like the models agree to disagree on 99L.


True, currently they diverge over 180 degrees in direction. The XTRP splits the difference, if you watch over time, the models will come closer to the XTRP path, it takes time for it to occur, however.
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163. kwgirl 17:23 GMT le 19 octobre 2010    
Quoting weatherman12345:
POLL TIME!!
What will the NHC have 99L at the 2:00 PM TWO
A. 40%
B. 50%
C. 60%
D. 70%
E. HIGHER %
d. 70%
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165. Waltanater 17:24 GMT le 19 octobre 2010    
99L definitely has some rotation to it now. If you look at the sat loop (increase the speed of the loop too) you will see that it first starts to blow up some t-storms, then later it starts to spin. It is probably on the verge of a cc now, just barely. Good outflow...this thing will develop, definitely.
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166. Neapolitan 17:25 GMT le 19 octobre 2010    
Quoting CosmicEvents:
I understand how some members feel about what other member's write. In a diverse community differences of opinion are to be expected.

This is my last statement on the subject, as I don't want to bore people any further than I probably already have: ;-)

I appreciate your detailed and in-depth analysis. And you're correct, for the most part. However, trollish behavior is not a "difference of opinion". Lemme 'splain:

If I come on this site once and say, "I believe a Cat 5 hurricane is headed toward Miami!", that's okay; it was my opinion, it was just the one time, I was corrected, and we've all moved on. If, however, I come on here every hour for days on end and post the same thing just to get a rise out of people and/or just to confuse them, I would no longer simply be giving my opinion; I would, rather, be engaging in well-known trollish behavior (in fact, it's how the term troll originated), which is expressly forbidden by the rules of the blog, and which I would expect to have reported to the admins. That is, then, what I'll continue to do with Oracle28's incessant and boorish "XTRP" comments, and hope everyone else does the same.

That is, after all, how successful online communites work, no? ;-)
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167. HaboobsRsweet 17:25 GMT le 19 octobre 2010    
I love how you all jump on the model the produces the worst case path. The GFDL has been trash all season and now it is the model to follow? 99L will not make it to the Gulf. First off it has to develop before you can really trust any model.
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169. poknsnok 17:26 GMT le 19 octobre 2010    
there needs to be a real storm FIRST before the models begin to agree somewhat. 99L has a way to go
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171. whadat 17:28 GMT le 19 octobre 2010    
Quoting pottery:
Afternoon all.
A nice squall just passing through here. Thunder with it, but no rain as yet . Seems to be raining heavy just north of here.

Post 152, that's looking Good!
Or Bad!
Or Something...


6 days out - that's bad. Come on - go west 99L.
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172. 7544 17:29 GMT le 19 octobre 2010    
doesnt look like 99l willl be a td today maybe by tomorow imo
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173. aprinz1979 17:29 GMT le 19 octobre 2010    
Quoting Levi32:
Good morning all.

Tropical Tidbit for Tuesday, October 19th, with Video


Levi you are the MAN! they should pull you from school right now and let you run the NHC
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174. oracle28 17:30 GMT le 19 octobre 2010    
Quoting Neapolitan:

This is my last statement on the subject, as I don't want to bore people any further than I probably already have: ;-)

I appreciate your detailed and in-depth analysis. And you're correct, for the most part. However, trollish behavior is not a "difference of opinion". Lemme 'splain:

If I come on this site once and say, "I believe a Cat 5 hurricane is headed toward Miami!", that's okay; it was my opinion, it was just the one time, I was corrected, and we've all moved on. If, however, I come on here every hour for days on end and post the same thing just to get a rise out of people and/or just to confuse them, I would no longer simply be giving my opinion; I would, rather, be engaging in well-known trollish behavior (in fact, it's how the term troll originated), which is expressly forbidden by the rules of the blog, and which I would expect to have reported to the admins. That is, then, what I'll continue to do with Oracle28's incessant and boorish "XTRP" comments, and hope everyone else does the same.

That is, after all, how successful online communites work, no? ;-)


Lots of people repeatedly refer to the GFS GFDL models on a daily basis. You just don't like my posts. Using the XTRP model to analyze is no different, IMO
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175. jasblt 17:32 GMT le 19 octobre 2010    
Hmmm..just like before Paula..where are all those insisting the season was over..Saw a few post yesterday jumping on people for saying this would become a storm.
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177. islander101010 17:32 GMT le 19 octobre 2010    
this invest is fighting more windshear than paula. the leftovers of her are trying in the bahamas.
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178. oracle28 17:33 GMT le 19 octobre 2010    
Quoting Ineluki:


Go get 'em, Internet Tough Guy. You might want to look into not taking this stuff too seriously. Just a thought.


Who's worse, Internet Tough Guy or Internet Blog Monitor?

99L will not affect the U.S. gulf coast
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179. tkeith 17:33 GMT le 19 octobre 2010    
176. Jeff9641 12:32 PM CDT on October 19, 2010

Thanks...
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181. Keys99 17:35 GMT le 19 octobre 2010    
Legend Of The Seas assist in Rescue so far they have rescued 15 of the 22 crew members from a small downed ship in the Taiwan Straight.

This is from A Cruise Board. News coming from current passengers on ship. 20 foot seas in area of rescue
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182. FtMyersgal 17:36 GMT le 19 octobre 2010    
Quoting weatherman12345:
POLL TIME!!
What will the NHC have 99L at the 2:00 PM TWO
A. 40%
B. 50%
C. 60%
D. 70%
E. HIGHER %


60%
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183. CyclonicVoyage 17:37 GMT le 19 octobre 2010    
There is also a non-tasked mission underway, looks like an upper air flight in the SEastern GOM.

Non-Tasked Missions in 2010

Date Mission Identifier Agency Aircraft Product(s) Map
10/19 Train NOAA N43RF URNT15
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185. Waltanater 17:37 GMT le 19 octobre 2010    
E
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186. tkeith 17:37 GMT le 19 octobre 2010    
Quoting Jeff9641:


Sorry! I will behave now!
promises, promises...lol

:)
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187. stormwatcherCI 17:37 GMT le 19 octobre 2010    
Quoting FtMyersgal:


60%
I think so too.
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188. aprinz1979 17:38 GMT le 19 octobre 2010    
Quoting oracle28:


Lots of people repeatedly refer to the GFS GFDL models on a daily basis. You just don't like my posts. Using the XTRP model to analyze is no different, IMO


I find this hilarious! If soemone doesn't like the XTRP model comments just ignore Oracle28 don't make such a big deal out of it!
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189. HaboobsRsweet 17:38 GMT le 19 octobre 2010    
Quoting Neapolitan:

This is my last statement on the subject, as I don't want to bore people any further than I probably already have: ;-)

I appreciate your detailed and in-depth analysis. And you're correct, for the most part. However, trollish behavior is not a "difference of opinion". Lemme 'splain:

If I come on this site once and say, "I believe a Cat 5 hurricane is headed toward Miami!", that's okay; it was my opinion, it was just the one time, I was corrected, and we've all moved on. If, however, I come on here every hour for days on end and post the same thing just to get a rise out of people and/or just to confuse them, I would no longer simply be giving my opinion; I would, rather, be engaging in well-known trollish behavior (in fact, it's how the term troll originated), which is expressly forbidden by the rules of the blog, and which I would expect to have reported to the admins. That is, then, what I'll continue to do with Oracle28's incessant and boorish "XTRP" comments, and hope everyone else does the same.

That is, after all, how successful online communites work, no? ;-)

I learned two things from this. One is your spend too much time on your computer and take a blog way way way to serious. Second, based on your picture you are trying to use the force to create this so called Cat 5 hurricane you are talking about haha.

On a side note 99L is at least 48 hours away from TD status. Nice little trough in south central US which will play a factor in the coming days.
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190. Stormchaser2007 17:39 GMT le 19 octobre 2010    
Gonna have to go with 50%
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191. CyclonicVoyage 17:41 GMT le 19 octobre 2010    
Quoting Jeff9641:
You knida get the feeling that what Levi32 and myself have been saying about future Richard impacting FL are becoming real now as the HWRF is getting in line with the GFDL when it comes to track. Richard will have to move NE next week as a strong trough pushes SE from the midwest.

http://www.coaps.fsu.edu/~maue/extreme/hwrf/invest99l.2010101912_wind.png


These Mid-October storms always make my stomach turn. The longer it sits there, your right, it WILL eventually get drawn N & NE in your status quo October cyclone track.

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192. Waltanater 17:42 GMT le 19 octobre 2010    
It's not even in good format. Each word is on its own line! Not even in paragraph form. Very hard to read.
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194. blsealevel 17:42 GMT le 19 octobre 2010    
XTRP -- I believe is the extrapolated movement based on current forward motion, (basically a straight line)

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195. kmanislander 17:42 GMT le 19 octobre 2010    
Good afternoon. The HH should soon be starting the descent into 99L.

I doubt the NHC would go higher than 60% being this close to having real onsite data to work with. They can always raise it later today or go to TD status if warranted but I don't see them getting aggressive on the formation potential when the next two hours will tell them precisely where matters stand.

Just my view FWIW.
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198. Waltanater 17:48 GMT le 19 octobre 2010    
Why do we even go by the XTRP at all when we all know it will be wrong 100% of the time later!? Is this the earliest level of extrapolating its projected path?
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199. aprinz1979 17:49 GMT le 19 octobre 2010    
The sarcasm makes it funny that's all!
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200. FtMyersgal 17:50 GMT le 19 octobre 2010    
Quoting kmanislander:
Good afternoon. The HH should soon be starting the descent into 99L.

I doubt the NHC would go higher than 60% being this close to having real onsite data to work with. They can always raise it later today or go to TD status if warranted but I don't see them getting aggressive on the formation potential when the next two hours will tell them precisely where matters stand.

Just my view FWIW.


My thoughts exactly
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201. CyclonicVoyage 17:50 GMT le 19 octobre 2010    
Quoting weatherman12345:
POLL TIME!!
What will the NHC have 99L at the 2:00 PM TWO
A. 40%
B. 50%
C. 60%
D. 70%
E. HIGHER %


My question would be, and excuse me because I haven't looked much at all today, has there been any increase in organization since 8am to warrant raising the odds?

In looking at the 8am discussion, the NHC thought this flight was necessary, so, I will go with C 60%.
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