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Little change to 99L, which remains very close to tropical depression status
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 19:11 GMT le 20 octobre 2010 +2
A tropical disturbance (Invest 99L) centered 160 miles southwest of the Cayman Islands is moving south to southeast at 5 - 10 mph. A Hurricane Hunter flight arrived in the storm at about 11am this morning, and found a closed circulation with top winds at flight level (700 feet) of 33 mph. A closed circulation and 30 mph surface winds are necessary conditions for a tropical depression to exist, but the storm must also have a great deal of heavy thunderstorm activity near the center that persists for many hours. In the judgment of NHC, 99L does not qualify as a tropical depression in that regard. The storm is bringing heavy rain to the Cayman Islands; 4.14" inches has fallen over the past 2 1/2 days at Savannah on Grand Cayman Island. Heavy rains have diminished over the Cayman Islands, but have spread to western Jamaica and west-central Cuba this afternoon. Recent satellite imagery shows that the surface circulation center is exposed to view, and 99L has a relatively meager amount of heavy thunderstorm activity. The center is more than 80 miles west of the heaviest thunderstorm activity, and it is likely that 99L's center will relocate itself to the east to be more underneath the heaviest thunderstorms. Wind shear is marginal for development, 15 - 20 knots, due to the clockwise flow of air around an upper-level high pressure system near the coast of Honduras. The high is bringing strong upper-level winds out of the southwest to 99L. Water vapor satellite loops show considerable dry air to the west and north of 99L, and the strong southwesterly winds over the storm are bringing some of this dry into into the core of the storm, keeping all the heavy thunderstorm development confined to the east side of the center. The waters beneath 99L are very warm, 29°C, but 99L will not be able to take advantage of these warm waters until the shear relaxes. A new hurricane hunter aircraft will be in the storm tonight near 8pm EDT.

Forecast for 99L
The current southward movement of 99L is carrying the storm into a region of lower wind shear, and we should see 99L accumulate more heavy thunderstorm activity near its center beginning tonight. The latest SHIPS model forecast predicts that wind shear over the Western Caribbean will decline below 15 knots Thursday afternoon through Saturday afternoon, which should allow the storm to become a tropical depression by Thursday. Steering currents will be weak today through Friday in the Western Caribbean, making it difficult to predict where 99L may go. The models are split into two camps, with the GFDL and HWRF models taking 99L to the west-northwest over the western tip of Cuba or the Yucatan Peninsula on Sunday as a hurricane. The rest of the models take 99L to the south over Honduras on Sunday, and keep the storm below hurricane strength. Given 99L's current southward motion and the possibility that the center will relocate farther to the east later today, this makes a track to the southwest towards Honduras more likely, I predict. NHC is giving 99L a 70% chance of developing into a tropical depression by Friday, which is a reasonable forecast. I expect this will become Tropical Storm Richard by Friday.


Figure 1. Afternoon satellite image of Invest 99L.

Death toll from Super Typhoon Megi in the Philippines remarkably low
The power is still out and communications are down over the majority of the northern portion of the Philippines' Luzon Island blasted by Typhoon Megi yesterday, so the full extent of the destruction wrought by the great storm is still unclear. However, the death toll from the great storm stands at only 19, reflecting the superior effort Philippines officials made to evacuate low-lying areas and get people out of locations prone to flash flooding and mudslides. Previous major typhoons to strike the Philippines have nearly always killed hundreds, and sometime thousands, so the preparation and evacuation efforts for Megi likely saved hundreds of lives. Megi hit Luzon on Monday morning at 3:30 UTC as a Category 5 super typhoon with sustained winds of 165 mph and a central pressure of 914 mb. Severe damage was done to Isabela Province in northern Luzon, and media reports indicate that 200,000 people are homeless.


Figure 2. Visible MODIS satellite image of Megi from NASA's Aqua satellite taken at 1:30am EDT October 20, 2010. At the time, Megi was a Category 4 typhoon with 135 mph winds. Image credit: NASA.

Passage over Luzon Island destroyed Megi's eyewall and inner core region, and the storm compensated by expanding and intensifying the portions of its circulation that were over water. Now that its center is back over water in the South China Sea, Megi has re-developed its inner core and has intensified into a formidable Category 3 typhoon with 125 mph winds. Megi has been able to maintain its larger size, and is now a much larger typhoon than when it hit the Philippines. This is similar to what happened to Hurricane Ike in 2008 when it passed over Cuba, and helped give Ike a very destructive storm surge when it came ashore over Texas. Wind shear is a low 5 - 10 knots over Megi, and the waters of the South China Sea have a very high total heat content to great depth, so Megi should be able to remain a very dangerous major typhoon through Friday. The larger size of Megi means that it will be able to deliver a significant storm surge in excess of ten feet to the coast of China of Friday or Saturday, when the storm is expected to make landfall north of Hong Kong. As the storm approaches the coast on Friday, wind shear is expected to rise to the moderate or high range, and the total heat content of the ocean will drop significantly, so some weakening is to be expected. Still, Megi will probably hit China as a major Category 3 typhoon, or as a strong Category 2, bringing a significant storm surge, high winds, and widespread torrential rains that will likely make this a multi-billion dollar disaster for China. The outer rain bands of Megi are already affecting the coast of China north of Hong Kong, as seen on Hong Kong radar and Taiwan radar.


Figure 3. Still frame of damage to NE Luzon Island from a video posted to YouTube by storm chaser James Reynolds of typhoonfury.com.

Next update
I'll have an update Thursday morning.

Jeff Masters
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102. WeatherRhino 20:07 GMT le 20 octobre 2010    
Quoting WStormW:
Just wanted to say hello. Have a great day!


Hello StormW. Nice to see you here!!!!
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103. shawn26 20:07 GMT le 20 octobre 2010    
When is the next hurricane hunter mission?
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104. wxguesser 20:08 GMT le 20 octobre 2010    
Thanks for the link Stormchaser2007...great site!
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105. CyclonicVoyage 20:08 GMT le 20 octobre 2010    
Wondering where the south movement is coming from? Looks east to me.

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106. kmanislander 20:08 GMT le 20 octobre 2010    
Wind direction at 42057 since early this morning. All out of the SW or WSW

MM DD TIME
(EDT) WDIR WSPD
kts GST
kts WVHT
ft DPD
sec APD
sec MWD PRES
in PTDY
in ATMP
°F WTMP
°F DEWP
°F SAL
psu VIS
nmi TIDE
ft
10 20 1:50 pm WSW 11.7 13.6 3.3 5 4.1 - 29.78 -0.07 82.0 84.0 75.0 - - -
10 20 12:50 pm SSW 13.6 17.5 3.3 5 4.0 - 29.82 -0.02 79.2 83.8 77.2 - - -
10 20 11:50 am SW 13.6 19.4 3.0 5 4.0 - 29.84 0.01 79.9 83.8 76.1 - - -
10 20 10:50 am SSW 13.6 17.5 3.3 5 4.0 - 29.85 0.04 80.2 83.8 75.6 - - -
10 20 9:50 am SW 13.6 17.5 3.3 6 4.0 - 29.83 0.05 82.2 83.8 74.7 - - -
10 20 8:50 am SW 11.7 15.5 3.3 5 4.0 - 29.83 0.05 81.7 83.7 74.3 - -
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107. Seastep 20:08 GMT le 20 octobre 2010    
Quoting shawn26:
When is the next hurricane hunter mission?


8pm EDT tonight. Should start descending around 7:30.
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108. SouthDadeFish 20:09 GMT le 20 octobre 2010    
Quoting kmanislander:


I don't see that. The wind has been out of the WSW there for quite some time.
Well either the reading is faulty or the center is NE of that location.
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109. HadesGodWyvern 20:09 GMT le 20 octobre 2010    
India Meteorological Department
Tropical Cyclone Bulletin #2
DEPRESSION BOB04-2010
23:30 PM IST October 20 2010
================================

SUBJECT: Depression Over East Central Bay Of Bengal

At 18:00 PM UTC, Depression BOB04-2010 over east central Bay of Bengal remained practically stationary and lays centered over the same areas near 17.5N 91.5E, or about 350 km south-southwest of Sittwe Myanmar, 450 km south of Cox Bazar Bangladesh, and 650 km southeast of Digha West Bengal.

The current environmental conditions and numerical weather prediction models suggest that the system would intensify further into a deep depression. It would move initially northwards and then north-northeastwards towards north Myanmar and south Bangladesh coasts during next 48 hours.

Since the system is likely to move towards north Myanmar and south Bangladesh coasts, it is not expected to affect east coast of India.
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110. CybrTeddy 20:09 GMT le 20 octobre 2010    
Watch this loop, check out what the COC has been doing. It has been removed from the convection, and has broadened out and unwinding considerably in the last few frames, but has rapidly been moving southward. There is likely a COC developing where kman thinks it might be.
Link
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112. kmanislander 20:10 GMT le 20 octobre 2010    
Quoting SouthDadeFish:
Well either the reading is faulty or the center is NE of that location.


Look at post 106. The center would have to be, and always has been, to the West of that buoy all day to get those wind direction readings. A SW or WSW wind is the result of the flow around the Southern side of the low center coming up from the SW
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113. Stormchaser2007 20:10 GMT le 20 octobre 2010    

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114. OneDrop 20:11 GMT le 20 octobre 2010    
Quoting Jeff9641:


I agree it gets a little much after awhile and when you say something that the models are showing then you get slammed for it. I think a FL landfall of a hurricane maybe a very very real possibility next week.
Jeff, I wasn't hassling you yesterday, just saying not to get overzealous. McLuvincane heckled me for that (and my name LOL). I like the way you word it this time....."maybe a very very real possibility next week" Maybe being the key word. On another note, what is it with the models always throwing Florida into the mix on almost every early run of every model? Sometimes that is a good omen for us because the models change so much that we end up out of the mix in the end. Wilma was a once in a few decades type of storm and the chance of that happening again are low, not impossible but low. I think the front coming to pick up this system is going to be a stronger one than the previous ones and will probably rip it up as it moves NE. Always prepare for the worst and hope for the best!!
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115. FLWaterFront 20:12 GMT le 20 octobre 2010    
Quoting Jeff9641:


I think the GFDL seems more realistic.


More realistic but still not highly realistic.

Remember what Levi said. The GFDL and HWRF both have a poleward bias in the early model runs. That will likely be altered once this officially becomes a TC.

And the earlier runs for both models were showing no land interaction at all.

I'm thinking that both models have other biases in their program and which come out in a situation like this, where a system is in the early formative stages.

You may call me a downcaster but if this were mid-August through late September or if it were 2005 I'd be likely keeping quiet on these points.
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116. Waltanater 20:13 GMT le 20 octobre 2010    
Quoting SouthDadeFish:
Yes they did, its only a few years old and pretty small for some reason. Dr. Hugh Willoughby leads the program and I'm currently taking a Hurricanes class taught by him this semester. Very interesting and fun!
Excellent! Good luck to you and your studies there. FIU is a great university and is it ever growing!
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117. KennyNebraska 20:13 GMT le 20 octobre 2010    
Quoting CybrTeddy:
Watch this loop, check out what the COC has been doing. It has been removed from the convection, and has broadened out and unwinding considerably in the last few frames, but has rapidly been moving southward. There is likely a COC developing where kman thinks it might be.
Link


Yep and we should see RI soon enough now. The CoC is trying to move to a better environment.
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118. HurricaneDean07 20:14 GMT le 20 octobre 2010    
99L's Surface circulation is beginning its entrance into the heavy thunderstorms.
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119. Waltanater 20:14 GMT le 20 octobre 2010    
Quoting shawn26:
When is the next hurricane hunter mission?
8 pm tonight.
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120. SouthDadeFish 20:14 GMT le 20 octobre 2010    
Quoting kmanislander:


Look at post 106. The center would have to be, and always has been, to the West of that buoy all day to get those wind direction readings. A SW or WSW wind is the result of the flow around the Southern side of the low center coming up from the SW
Sorry I was judging WSW by the elongated inflow I'm seeing on satellite. Since the reading has been like that since this morning, you are correct. I think a relocation is coming farther east though.
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121. BLee2333 20:14 GMT le 20 octobre 2010    
Quoting lightningbolt73:
I don't mean to be a pest, but I've asked 2 questions about posting on here and none of them have been answered! I'm not a troll I'm a totally blind new user who wants to enjoy posting just like evryone else!


You can adjust what you see using the filter at the top of the comments box. i.e. "see all", "see bad", etc. Didn't see your other question. What was it?
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122. weatherlover94 20:14 GMT le 20 octobre 2010    
Quoting WStormW:
Just wanted to say hello. Have a great day!


welcome back buddy...we missed ya
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123. CosmicEvents 20:15 GMT le 20 octobre 2010    
Quoting Waltanater:
Holy Crap!
This isn't twitter.
We don't need to know what you're doing every moment.....:)
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124. aspectre 20:15 GMT le 20 octobre 2010    
Coincidentally, today's Wiki feature article is on an October looper, the 1910 Cuba Hurricane
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125. weatherlover94 20:15 GMT le 20 octobre 2010    
good afternoon every body .....the models still look like a spider web lol
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126. SouthDadeFish 20:15 GMT le 20 octobre 2010    
Quoting Waltanater:
Excellent! Good luck to you and your studies there. FIU is a great university and is it ever growing!
Thank you! speaking of studies, that's what i'm going to do now. Physics exam tomorrow.... Gross. Later everyone.
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127. JLPR2 20:16 GMT le 20 octobre 2010    
99L looking interesting but still only an invest and this disturbance in the Eastern Atl is looking healthy. O.o

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130. kmanislander 20:17 GMT le 20 octobre 2010    
Quoting SouthDadeFish:
Sorry I was judging WSW by the elongated inflow I'm seeing on satellite. Since the reading has been like that since this morning, you are correct. I think a relocation is coming farther east though.


42057 just updated. pressure down to 1006.8 and still out of the WSW

Wind Direction (WDIR): WSW ( 240 deg true )
Wind Speed (WSPD): 13.6 kts
Wind Gust (GST): 15.5 kts
Wave Height (WVHT): 3.3 ft
Dominant Wave Period (DPD): 6 sec
Average Period (APD): 4.0 sec
Atmospheric Pressure (PRES): 29.73 in
Pressure Tendency (PTDY): -0.09 in ( Falling )
Air Temperature (ATMP): 82.0 °F
Water Temperature (WTMP): 84.2 °F
Dew Point (DEWP): 75.6 °F
Heat Index (HEAT): 89.1 °F
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131. KennyNebraska 20:18 GMT le 20 octobre 2010    
Quoting johnnyascat:


Smile when u say dem words 'round here, pardner!



That was totally uncalled for, but still funny.
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132. Seastep 20:19 GMT le 20 octobre 2010    
Sorry, missed the commentary. Graphical version.

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133. stillwaiting 20:22 GMT le 20 octobre 2010    
Quoting OneDrop:
Jeff, I wasn't hassling you yesterday, just saying not to get overzealous. McLuvincane heckled me for that (and my name LOL). I like the way you word it this time....."maybe a very very real possibility next week" Maybe being the key word. On another note, what is it with the models always throwing Florida into the mix on almost every early run of every model? Sometimes that is a good omen for us because the models change so much that we end up out of the mix in the end. Wilma was a once in a few decades type of storm and the chance of that happening again are low, not impossible but low. I think the front coming to pick up this system is going to be a stronger one than the previous ones and will probably rip it up as it moves NE. Always prepare for the worst and hope for the best!!
...the reason fl's been being thrown.inthe mix is climatology,one of the parameters put inzsome of the models is climatology,that and overstregthening a system because of improper wind sheer parameters, sending a stronger system more poleward jmo...
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134. kmanislander 20:22 GMT le 20 octobre 2010    
Quoting Seastep:
Sorry, missed the commentary. Graphical version.



The visible loop is starting to suggest that the current low center is opening up some and trying to migrate underneath the deep convection nearby to the East. Fascinating to watch this thing evolve
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136. HadesGodWyvern 20:22 GMT le 20 octobre 2010    
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137. reedzone 20:22 GMT le 20 octobre 2010    
Quoting scooster67:

Reed: Don't woory about the dowmcasting Reed haters. You are my Favorite Wishcaster. That is a complament.

Do you think it will go into FL?


I don't think it will even be a TS if it does go this way. You really call this wishcasting? I'm just going by the pattern, I like the EURO run, a remnant low in the GOM.
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140. scott39 20:24 GMT le 20 octobre 2010    
Quoting kmanislander:


The visible loop is starting to suggest that the current low center is opening up some and trying to migrate underneath the deep convection nearby to the East. Fascinating to watch this thing evolve
I agree. Its obvious on the Loop.
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141. weatherlover94 20:24 GMT le 20 octobre 2010    
Quoting reedzone:


I don't think it will even be a TS if it does go this way. You really call this wishcasting? I'm just going by the pattern, I like the EURO run, a remnant low in the GOM.


it could be stronger than that
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142. Waltanater 20:24 GMT le 20 octobre 2010    
Took Physics I and II, aced them both! Still have my books. yes, books.
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144. reedzone 20:25 GMT le 20 octobre 2010    
Quoting FLWaterFront:


More realistic but still not highly realistic.

Remember what Levi said. The GFDL and HWRF both have a poleward bias in the early model runs. That will likely be altered once this officially becomes a TC.

And the earlier runs for both models were showing no land interaction at all.

I'm thinking that both models have other biases in their program and which come out in a situation like this, where a system is in the early formative stages.

You may call me a downcaster but if this were mid-August through late September or if it were 2005 I'd be likely keeping quiet on these points.


GFDL moved south on the 12Z, joining the EURO which now has a decent storm, along with the BAMS and other model consensus. It's much more possible then the last run and the current HWRF run.
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145. weatherlover94 20:25 GMT le 20 octobre 2010    
the latest HWRF showing a Charley track
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148. CyclonicVoyage 20:26 GMT le 20 octobre 2010    
Anyone care to take a stab at why Dr. Masters said it moved south? Recon fixes clearly show east movement since yesterday.



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149. victoriahurricane 20:26 GMT le 20 octobre 2010    
Quoting lightningbolt73:
I don't mean to be a pest, but I've asked 2 questions about posting on here and none of them have been answered! I'm not a troll I'm a totally blind new user who wants to enjoy posting just like evryone else!


Set the filter to show all, then you'll see everything.
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150. acyddrop 20:27 GMT le 20 octobre 2010    
Quoting OneDrop:
Jeff, I wasn't hassling you yesterday, just saying not to get overzealous. McLuvincane heckled me for that (and my name LOL). I like the way you word it this time....."maybe a very very real possibility next week" Maybe being the key word. On another note, what is it with the models always throwing Florida into the mix on almost every early run of every model? Sometimes that is a good omen for us because the models change so much that we end up out of the mix in the end. Wilma was a once in a few decades type of storm and the chance of that happening again are low, not impossible but low. I think the front coming to pick up this system is going to be a stronger one than the previous ones and will probably rip it up as it moves NE. Always prepare for the worst and hope for the best!!


There's a T.V. axiom that says "if it bleeds it leads". I think it holds true on weather blogs too. The people posting HWRF today were posting the GFDL yesterday. Now that the GFDL has gone the way everyone in the know has been saying this thing would most likely go it's not the hot model anymore of doom and destruction to SoFla like they want it to be. ie: Wishcasting and Doomcasting, if the GFDL goes back the same way the HWRF is they'll say "see I told you so". It's so ridiculous.

I'm not picking on Jeff specifically with this post or anyone specifically, it's just the way it is or at least the way it seems to be. They can have a feel all they want about any particular model it surely doesn't mean they're right but it's not wrong to have a "feeling" about anything. I just don't agree with getting all alarmed over a model in a computer so far out.
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151. scott39 20:28 GMT le 20 octobre 2010    
99L is going to the N Gulf Coast as a puff of wind and a rain shower.
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