Record snows hit New England; Brazilian floods kill 350; Brisbane underwater

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 16:16 GMT le 13 janvier 2011

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The Northeast U.S. is digging out today from the winter's third major snowstorm, and the nation's South continues to deal with travel disruptions caused by the nasty coasting of ice, snow and sleet the storm left behind early this week. Yesterday's Nor'easter has exited into Canada, and the storm is over for the U.S. It was a pretty average Nor'easter as far as intensity goes--the storm's central pressure bottomed out at 982 mb, and just the Massachusetts coast was subject to high winds that merited blizzard warnings. The storm did generate one hurricane-force wind gust--Provincetown airport on the tip of Cape Cod had sustained winds at 43 mph, gusting to 79 mph, at 6:35am EST yesterday, and a personal weather station at Humarock Beach in Scituate, southeast of Boston, recorded a wind gust of 64 mph at 5:51am EST yesterday.


Figure 1. A bit of work today needed before one can step out of the door in Southborough, Massachusetts! Image credit: wunderphotographer Megmdp.

But what was remarkable about the January Nor'easter of 2011 were its snow amounts. This rather ordinary-strength Nor'easter managed to assemble the perfect mix of conditions needed to transport moisture to a region of the storm highly favorable for heavy snow formation. Many heavy snow bands with snowfall rates up to 3 inches per hour formed over New England, with some of these bands intense enough to generate lightning and thunder. Connecticut, Massachusetts, and Vermont all came within an inch of setting all-time state 24-hour snowfall records yesterday. North Haven, Connecticut received 29.5", falling just short of the 30.2" 24-hour snowfall record for the state, set at Fairfield in February 2006. Savoy, Massachusetts received 34.5", falling just short of that state's all-time 24-hour snowfall record, the 36" recorded at Milton in February 1997. Wilmington, Vermont got 36" in yesterday's storm, just missing the state record of 37", set at Peru in March 1984. The capital of Connecticut, Hartford, had its greatest snowstorm in history yesterday, with 24". The old record was 23.5", set in a February 1899 storm.

Some selected storm total snowfall amounts, taken from the latest NOAA storm summary:

New York City, NY 9.1"
Albany, NY 13.2"
Worcester, MA 21.1"
Boston, MA 14.6"
Augusta, ME 14.5"
Portland, ME 9.2"
Concord, NH 22"
Somerset, PA 15"
Philadelphia, PA 5.2"
Providence, RI 9.5"
Brattleboro, VT 19"
Elkin, WV 10"
Danbury, CT 17.9"
Wilmington, DE 4.3"

According to our weather historian, Christopher C. Burt, in his latest blog post titled, "Snowstorms in the South: A Historical Perspective", the 8.9" that fell on Huntsville, Alabama from this week's storm was that city's third heaviest snow on record. The post has a nice summary of the remarkable heavy snow storms that have hit the South in the past.


Figure 2. Flooding at São José do Vale do Rio Preto in Brazil photographed on Thursday, January 13, 2011.

Brazilian floods, landslides kill at least 350
The globe's parade of massive flooding disasters in recent months continued yesterday in Brazil, where heavy rains of up to 10 inches in 24 hours inundated the region about 60 miles north of Rio de Janeiro. At least 350 are dead and 50 people missing, and the death toll is expected to go much higher once rescuers reach remote villages that have been cut off from communications. Brazil suffers hundreds of deaths each year due to flooding and mudslides, but the past 12 months have been particularly devastating. Flooding and landslides near Rio in April last year killed 246 people and did about $13 billion in damage, and at least 85 people perished last January during a similar event.


Figure 3. A woman trapped on the roof of her car awaits rescue during the Toowoomba flash flood on Monday. Image credit: Wikipedia.

New floods ravage Australia's 3rd largest city
Flood waters swept today into Brisbane, Australia's 3rd largest city, inundating 14,400 homes and businesses, partially submerging another 17,200, and cutting power to 118,000, as the Brisbane River peaked at its highest level since 1974. Queensland Premier Anna Bligh, who has called the recent floods in Queensland the greatest natural disaster in their history, said, "What I'm seeing looks more like a war zone in some places. All I could see was their rooftops...underneath every single one of those rooftops is a horror story. We are facing a reconstruction effort of post-war proportions." Much of Brisbane's infrastructure has been damaged or destroyed, including 55,000 miles of roads. The Port of Brisbane, one of Australia's busiest, has been closed because of debris, and the city's largest sports stadium is under several feet of water.

The search for bodies continues in Toowoomba, about 60 miles west of Brisbane, where freak rains of 6 inches in just 30 minutes triggered a flash flood that killed 12 and left 61 missing on Monday. The flood waters from the Toowoomba disaster poured into the Brisbane River, contributing to its rampage through Brisbane yesterday. The Australian Bureau of Meteorology (BOM) reported that only scattered light rains less than 1/3" fell in the Brisbane area over the past 24 hours, and no further significant rains are forecast in the Brisbane area until Tuesday next week, so the worst of the flooding is now over for Queensland. According to the Australian Bureau of Meteorology, the December - January floods in Queenland are the most significant flooding event in Australia since at least 1974. In 2010, Australia had its wettest spring (September - November) since records began 111 years ago, with some sections of coastal Queensland receiving over 4 feet (1200 mm) of rain. Rainfall in Queensland and all of eastern Australia in December was the greatest on record, and the year 2010 was the rainiest year on record for Queensland. Queensland typically has its rainiest years when La Niña events occur, due to the much warmer than average ocean temperatures that occur along the coast. The BOM notes, "Previous strong La Niña events, such as those of 1974 and 1955, have also been associated with widespread and severe flooding in eastern Australia. Sea surface temperatures off the Queensland coast in recent months have also been at or near record levels." The BOM's annual summary also reported, "Sea surface temperatures in the Australian region during 2010 were the warmest value on record for the Australian region. Individual high monthly sea surface temperature records were also set during 2010 in March, April, June, September, October, November and December. Along with favourable hemispheric circulation associated with the 2010 La Niña, very warm sea surface temperatures contributed to the record rainfall and very high humidity across eastern Australia during winter and spring." Beginning in December, the Queensland floods have killed at least 22, and damage estimates are now as high as $20 billion. Queensland has an area the size of Germany and France combined.

2010 tied for warmest year in Earth's history
Earth's warmest year in history occurred in 2010, NASA reported yesterday. The globe's temperature beat the previous record set in 2005 by just .01°C, so we should consider 2010 and 2005 tied for the warmest year on record. Reliable global temperature records go back to 1880. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) also announced yesterday that 2010 was tied with 2005 as the warmest year on record, with temperatures during 2010 1.12°F (0.62°C) above the 20th century average. I'll have a full blog post on the subject Friday morning.

Jeff Masters

storm car burried (slimfast)
on a lowell mass street 1/12/11 taken off hampshire street lowell mass our streets are buried in snow we have 24-36" of snow we had unsafe intersecting roads every where un safe driving also large buildings with flat roofs are unsafe many colapsed buildings
storm car burried
Brilliance..2 (suzi46)
a brilliant mid-Winter's day..blue skies and sunshine on the clear ice of the brooks creating wonderful images..
Brilliance..2
How Many Cars? (stoneygirl)
Can you tell how many cars are under all that? We had a whopping 2 plus FEET of snow today and the snow drifts were upwards of 3 and 4 feet. Gotta love winter.
How Many Cars?

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Quoting TomTaylor:


So from the research you cited, you're saying they found that none of the wavelengths which CO2 absorbs is not being absorbed by CO2?

I find that impossible to believe.

I'm being 100% honest with you too. Think about that for a second. You are saying every single photon of the infrared wavelength which CO2 is capable of absorbing is being absorbed?

Simply sounds impossible, especially knowing CO2 levels are a little below 400 parts per million.
So? That doesn't matter when the gas is efficient at absorbing that wavelength. I showed you college textbook plots of what actually escapes to space under less than 400 ppm.

How many million molecules are there between the surface and the tropopause, if lined up in a straight line? Do the math before you assume it impossible.
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Quoting Neapolitan:

Really? Do you have links? Because there's this from the AAAS:

"The vast preponderance of evidence, based on years of research conducted by a wide array of different investigators at many institutions, clearly indicates that global climate change is real, it is caused largely by human activities, and the need to take action is urgent. the scientific evidence is clear: global climate change caused by human activities is occurring now, and it is a growing threat to society.%u201D

And this: "Clear evidence of climate change is based upon %u201Caccumulating data from across the globe' that reveals 'a wide array of effects: rapidly melting glaciers, increases in extreme weather, rising sea levels, shifts in species ranges, and more,' the AAAS Board reported. Reliable sensor data show an upturn in average temperatures for at least the past 30 years."

And this: "The AAAS Board noted that 'the pace of change and the evidence of harm have increased markedly over the last five years. The time to control greenhouse gas emissions is now."

And this: "A lot of what of what they [skeptics] say%u2014at first sight it might appear that they%u2019re making reasonable points," Smith said. "If you look more closely... a lot of what they say doesn%u2019t stand up to scrutiny."

And this: "Skepticism is an integral part of the progress of science and it helps keep the science on the correct path,%u201D said veteran climate researcher Warren Washington, former chairman of the U.S. National Science Board. %u201CHowever, skepticism without specifics, alternate hypotheses, and facts is worthless. It does not advance the science.%u201D



REDIRECTION ALERT !!!

REDIRECTION ALERT !!!

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Neo, your original post...

"Oh, it looks like you're about 18 months behind the times; the whole manufactured "Climategate" thing has been proven to be nothing more than a desperate witch-hunt by the contrarian community. You should catch up."

*************

Folks, now that you can see the context of the original post, re-read his quoting of the AAAS article and you will see no mention of the Scientists or their cohorts and any determination of quilt or innocence.





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Quoting atmoaggie:
How can 100% of absorption in a band of the IR get exceeded?


So from the research you cited, you're saying they found that none of the wavelengths which CO2 absorbs is not being absorbed by CO2?

I find that impossible to believe.

I'm being 100% honest with you too. Think about that for a second. You are saying every single photon of the infrared wavelength which CO2 is capable of absorbing is being absorbed?

Simply sounds impossible, especially knowing CO2 levels are a little below 400 parts per million.
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Quoting HurricaneKatrina:
CO2 can actually cool the stratosphere. This hyperfrigid air is what could get sucked down during a superstorm.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

No really. Laughed, I did.
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Quoting LoveStormsatNight:


From what I have seen from pictures from the Space Shuttle and the moon, the Earth reflects plenty of visible light. And reflection is a form of emission. If it didn't emit light as well as IR the earth would be black from outer space on the sunward side.
Okay,okay...you have to look very, very close at the radiation curve to see it, but, yes, some visible light, obviously.

Also, obviously, at a tiny fraction of the intensity that emitted by our sun.

Irrelevant to the discussion....
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Quoting LoveStormsatNight:
The problem is that CO2 does not absorb all IR radiation in its absorption bands in cold temperatures or at high altitudes in dry air. It's been known since the 1940s that the CO2 absorption bands are not saturated for the atmosphere as a whole. That's just flat wrong.


That was raised as a formidable objection in 1910 testing CO2 in cylinders at room temperature, and for the next few decades CO2 as a greenhouse driver was discredited.

But the fact that CO2 does not absorb all the radiation in its absorption bands at cold temperatures or in extremely dry air at mid and upper levels is old news. Very old news.

OLR measured by satellite shows 100% absorbed in CO2 bands.

And studies show it to be exactly the same, by 2 satellites 30 years apart, in atmospheric windows that aren't saturated, too.
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Quoting LoveStormsatNight:
The problem is that CO2 does not absorb all IR radiation in its absorption bands in cold temperatures or at high altitudes in dry air. It's been known since the 1940s that the CO2 absorption bands are not saturated for the atmosphere as a whole. That's just flat wrong.


That was raised as a formidable objection in 1910 testing CO2 in cylinders at room temperature, and for the next few decades CO2 as a greenhouse driver was discredited.

But the fact that CO2 does not absorb all the radiation in its absorption bands at cold temperatures or in extremely dry air at mid and upper levels is old news. Very old news.

CO2 can actually cool the stratosphere. This hyperfrigid air is what could get sucked down during a superstorm.
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Quoting Weather130:
We have a current Winter Storm Warning for parts of Hawaii! If Florida would get its act together we could have snow in all 50 states!

A WINTER STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 6 PM HST THIS
EVENING.

HEAVY SNOW SHOWERS WILL SPREAD TOWARD THE SUMMITS...AND MAY DROP
UP TO SEVERAL INCHES OF SNOW IS A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. NEW
SNOWFALL AMOUNTS OF UP TO 6 INCHES ARE POSSIBLE TODAY ABOVE 11000
FEET. STRONG SOUTHWEST WINDS GUSTING TO NEAR 50 MPH WILL RESULT IN
SIGNIFICANT BLOWING AND DRIFTING SNOW AT THE SUMMITS. HEAVIER SNOW
SHOWERS COULD BE ACCOMPANIED BY WHITEOUT CONDITIONS AND POSSIBLY
CLOUD TO GROUND LIGHTNING.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

HIKERS AND CAMPERS SHOULD STRONGLY CONSIDER POSTPONING ANY TRIPS
TO THE SUMMIT UNTIL AFTER THE INCLEMENT WEATHER PASSES.

A WINTER STORM WARNING MEANS SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF SNOW...
SLEET...AND ICE ARE EXPECTED OR OCCURRING. STRONG WINDS ARE ALSO
POSSIBLE. THIS WILL MAKE TRAVEL VERY HAZARDOUS OR IMPOSSIBLE.

If Florida had mountains over 11,000 feet, it just might snow here. But we fall about 10,688 feet short. ;-)
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When can we call tunnels?

TUNNELS!!!!!!!:)
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Hundreds of people have been killed in landslides and floods in Brazil -- the latest casualty of global weather patterns that are creating huge destructive storms. The number of dead is expected to continue to rise -- with whole villages wiped off the map, lost under metres of water and mud. Sky's Lisa Holland reports.

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Quoting JFLORIDA:
IR isn't the highest energy of the spectrum anyway and there are several gases at work - but I guess I dont understand I will have to read up more on that study.

So actually its the CO2 absorption you have a problem with. Good thats a start.
Of course not. IR is all that the earth emits, thus is the only part that can be affected by CO2 concentration.

Anything to do with any of the higher energy parts of the spectrum would come from the sun. More absorption of those would behave exactly the same as stratospheric aerosols.
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Quoting atmoaggie:
How can 100% of absorption in a band of the IR get exceeded?
Man doesn't actually know the answer to this...

CO2 shouldn't be able to absorb any more heat than it already does, given our current understanding of atmo physics.

So let's tax energy users until we know what we're talking about.
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These floods are the new normal. More heat= more moisture and more flooding. Up until after the superstorm we are in for much climatic instability.
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Quoting KrippleCreekFerry:
AAAS admits that a lot of the data is compromised. The greenheads have a radical agenda and are willing to go to any means to obtain them. People are wising up about this attempted fraudulent theory and it is becoming less believable as new accurate data is now being released. Many experts are rising up against this fraud despite being ostracized by the greenheads.

Really? Do you have links? Because there's this from the AAAS:

"The vast preponderance of evidence, based on years of research conducted by a wide array of different investigators at many institutions, clearly indicates that global climate change is real, it is caused largely by human activities, and the need to take action is urgent. the scientific evidence is clear: global climate change caused by human activities is occurring now, and it is a growing threat to society.”

And this: "Clear evidence of climate change is based upon “accumulating data from across the globe' that reveals 'a wide array of effects: rapidly melting glaciers, increases in extreme weather, rising sea levels, shifts in species ranges, and more,' the AAAS Board reported. Reliable sensor data show an upturn in average temperatures for at least the past 30 years."

And this: "The AAAS Board noted that 'the pace of change and the evidence of harm have increased markedly over the last five years. The time to control greenhouse gas emissions is now."

And this: "A lot of what of what they [skeptics] say—at first sight it might appear that they’re making reasonable points," Smith said. "If you look more closely... a lot of what they say doesn’t stand up to scrutiny."

And this: "Skepticism is an integral part of the progress of science and it helps keep the science on the correct path,” said veteran climate researcher Warren Washington, former chairman of the U.S. National Science Board. “However, skepticism without specifics, alternate hypotheses, and facts is worthless. It does not advance the science.”
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Quoting JFLORIDA:
Seriously atmo can you express your self clearly and forgo the cynicism?

I dont see what you are asking in 343.

How can 100% of absorption in a band of the IR get exceeded?
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Levi! Glad to again see your activity on this blog.You are a wise and talented young man. Keep up the good work.
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http://news.scotsman.com/scitech/Last-Ice-Age-happened-in.4351045.jp

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subsidence_(atmosphere)

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/11/091130112421.htm

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20427344.800-mini-ice-age-took-hold-of-europe-in-months.html

http://www.bobkingsley.co.uk/blog/?p=159

Read these links. Global warming can cause cooling. Very abrupt cooling.
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Quoting alfabob:
A lot of these arguments are missing the main points.

1. Historic climate data means absolutely nothing about the future climate. Every situation is unique in the sense that if you want to simulate something, you must know all of the variables or your results will become exponentially incorrect over time. Who knows exactly how the Earth's orbit was 100,000 years ago when we have no idea how outside factors modified it.

2. The atmosphere is divided into parts, most of the arguments do not take into account all perspectives. For example, the arctic sea ice from 1980 to 2010 has absorbed approximately 3.8 * 10^21 J of energy. From wiki "In 2008, total worldwide energy consumption was 474 exajoules (4.74×10^20 J). I wonder where the majority of this heat has gone..

3. This heat is going to be transferred upwards by convection, so we can trap as much energy as we like into our atmosphere; but in return there will be more mass flooding and intense hurricanes to the point where our generation of heat decreases (from multiple factors).


3. Clarification: Heat in the ocean will be transferred up by convection. Heat from the surface is only partly carried by the atmosphere, the greenhouse gas part. The rest of the heat emitted by the surface needs no medium and escapes to space after passing cleanly through the atmosphere.
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We have a current Winter Storm Warning for parts of Hawaii! If Florida would get its act together we could have snow in all 50 states!

A WINTER STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 6 PM HST THIS
EVENING.

HEAVY SNOW SHOWERS WILL SPREAD TOWARD THE SUMMITS...AND MAY DROP
UP TO SEVERAL INCHES OF SNOW IS A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. NEW
SNOWFALL AMOUNTS OF UP TO 6 INCHES ARE POSSIBLE TODAY ABOVE 11000
FEET. STRONG SOUTHWEST WINDS GUSTING TO NEAR 50 MPH WILL RESULT IN
SIGNIFICANT BLOWING AND DRIFTING SNOW AT THE SUMMITS. HEAVIER SNOW
SHOWERS COULD BE ACCOMPANIED BY WHITEOUT CONDITIONS AND POSSIBLY
CLOUD TO GROUND LIGHTNING.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

HIKERS AND CAMPERS SHOULD STRONGLY CONSIDER POSTPONING ANY TRIPS
TO THE SUMMIT UNTIL AFTER THE INCLEMENT WEATHER PASSES.

A WINTER STORM WARNING MEANS SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF SNOW...
SLEET...AND ICE ARE EXPECTED OR OCCURRING. STRONG WINDS ARE ALSO
POSSIBLE. THIS WILL MAKE TRAVEL VERY HAZARDOUS OR IMPOSSIBLE.
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Quoting MichaelSTL:
This needs to be reposted:
Wow, the high temperature back then sure caused a lot of CO2!

Since you reposted it again and again and again...

When can we call tunnels?
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Here is the emission spectra plot for sun and earth.

CO2 is important for the earth part, only. This, in layman's terms, is the radiation released by the Earth's surface organized by wavelength. The wavelengths in which earth does so, is in a part of the electromagnetic radiation spectrum we call infrared, or, commonly, heat.


(From: http://bouman.chem.georgetown.edu/S02/lect23/lect23green.html)

In the range of IR wavelengths emitted by earth, the bulk of it is shown in the following plot. This plot is the outgoing longwave radiation escaping to space after passing through the earth's atmosphere:


Note the big section in the middle where CO2 has absorbed 100% of the outgoing radiation that left the surface as heat, but did not escape to space.

This means that 100% of heat leaving the surface at that wavelength was absorbed by the CO2 in the atmosphere and reemitted in all directions (some went back to the surface, of course). Atmospheric molecules, nay all molecules that absorb heat cannot directionally reemit it. All directions, all the time.

Now, to zoom into the more busy 2 to 6 micron spectra, more CO2-opaque windows (parts of a spectrum, such as this):


More major co2 absorption bands. But these are also already absorbing 100% of heat leaving the surface of the earth, or nearly so.

I have seen the talking points handbook response where it is said: "In 1970, NASA launched the IRIS satellite that measured infrared spectra between 400 cm-1 to 1600 cm-1. In 1996, the Japanese Space Agency launched the IMG satellite which recorded similar observations. Harries 2001 compared both sets of data to discern any changes in outgoing radiation over the 26 year period. The resultant change in outgoing radiation was as follows:

Figure 1: Change in spectrum from 1970 to 1996 due to trace gases. 'Brightness temperature' indicates equivalent blackbody temperature (Harries 2001).

What they found was a drop in outgoing radiation at the wavelength bands that greenhouse gases such as CO2 and methane (CH4) absorb energy. The change in outgoing radiation over CO2 bands was consistent with theoretical expectations. Thus the paper found "direct experimental evidence for a significant increase in the Earth's greenhouse effect".
"

So, now the question is: At what wavenumber or wavelength did CO2 successfully absorb more than 100% of heat leaving the surface of the earth? Well, that is clear if the Harries study is anything but bogus. (though it is obvious that there is something wrong to anyone familiar with this field, given that if the earth in 1970 was cooler than the earth in 1996, as postulated, then much of the last plot would be above zero.)

Okay, so then how did we all have such a wrong understanding of the OLR for so long? To think that the transmission into space of certain bands was 0.0? If it was 0.0 and then more was absorbed in that same band, that would have to mean that our satellite sensors have been warming CO2 molecules from above! (Not likely.)

So, the challenge to warmistas is to explain how more than 100% of heat gets absorbed by adding CO2 to the atmosphere. Give us a physics lesson on how 0.0 transmission to space was made even less by CO2 increases, when negative numbers would mean that heat from a body in space with a similar temperature as the earth would have to be added. (I shant hold my breath)
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342. Skyepony (Mod)
This just keeps getting worse...


381 die in Brazil slides, survivors relate horrors

TERESOPOLIS, Brazil (AP) - The power was out, but lightning flashes illuminated the horror as villagers watched neighbors' homes vanish under a wall of mud and water, turning neighborhoods into graveyards. Survivors dug at the earth barehanded Thursday, but all they found were bodies.

It was a scene of muddy destruction in mountain towns north of Rio, where at least 381 people were killed when torrential rains unleashed mudslides in the pre-dawn hours Wednesday, burying people alive as they slept.

more here
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Quoting Patrap:
Sheesh.

The site is viewed by younger Members Globally and they see that from members, and I draw my own conclusion.

Yup,time to disregard some.


Shrimps,,,ummmm.

Yup, 5pm CDT

Old Bay and more salt please


Holler when they're ready, I'll bring beverages...
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Quoting MichaelSTL:


Yup, and the ice isn't really melting - LOL!


It's all due to pattern shifts, can't stay frigid and iced up at a location forever, has to balance itself out
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Quoting MichaelSTL:
By the way, here is proof that it has been warm in Canada:









All of these have been over 10°C above average for the past month (some for the past THREE months). And here is the yearly graph for one area:



(check out the scale(!) on the 31 day running mean)


Yeah. The polar regions can put up double-digit temperature anomalies (C) quite routinely when the ruling hemispheric pattern puts a blocking ridge directly over top of them.
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I don't think the thermometers back in the old days were reading correctly, they showed it cooler than what it was, today's readings are more high tech, which therefore show a higher temp which makes it seem the world is warming especially the poles
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Yea, the cold air just moved to a different location that's all, no biggie
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Quoting RitaEvac:
Last I checked Russia is -40- to -70 below 0 in Siberia, so some jackwagon colored in red all over Asia.%uFFFD I'd print that map with those dots and wipe my ass with it because that's all lt's good for.


Well eastern Siberia did have a ridge in December. Here's the MSU anomalies for the lower troposphere. Though they agree with GISS in Siberia, there certainly are some areas with some apparent conflicts, especially in the Southern hemisphere.



Obtained from Koninklijk Nederlands Meteorological Institute Climate Explorer Temperature scale in degrees Celsius.
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Every year in Siberia it gets that cold


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