on a lowell mass street 1/12/11
taken off hampshire street lowell mass our streets are buried in snow we have 24-36" of snow we had unsafe intersecting roads every where un safe driving also large buildings with flat roofs are unsafe many colapsed buildings
a brilliant mid-Winter's day..blue skies and sunshine on the clear ice of the brooks creating wonderful images..
Can you tell how many cars are under all that? We had a whopping 2 plus FEET of snow today and the snow drifts were upwards of 3 and 4 feet. Gotta love winter.
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You don't remember yesterday? That's your problem.
But to go on complaining that no one is posting just what you couldn't handle 24 hours ago is a little sad.
But there will never be an agreement on this situation even when the world temperature is way way way below average and nobody can leave their homes because of the ice age going on. People just argue to argue.
If you're carrying on a reasonable discussion then you are already being civil. Period. Nothing about incivility in a discussion is ever reasonable.
What was the point of that post?
Though according to the same GISS data, the global average temperature dropped from +0.96C in November to +0.49C in December, a quite significant drop , and the largest month-to-month drop I can find since 1980 (not gonna look over the whole list right now).
Are we still flogging the AGW horse? I thought we had a couple of interesting tropical cyclones in the Southern Hemisphere last night... how are they doing?
If we aren't going to talk about anything else but AGW, I may as well get a jump start on some work for tomorrow... lol
Straight to the point sonny boy
Phew.... I thought that was me.....
The site is viewed by younger Members Globally and they see that from members, and I draw my own conclusion.
Yup,time to disregard some.
Shrimps,,,ummmm.
Yup, 5pm CDT
Old Bay and more salt please
Well eastern Siberia did have a ridge in December. Here's the MSU anomalies for the lower troposphere. Though they agree with GISS in Siberia, there certainly are some areas with some apparent conflicts, especially in the Southern hemisphere.
Obtained from Koninklijk Nederlands Meteorological Institute Climate Explorer Temperature scale in degrees Celsius.
Yeah. The polar regions can put up double-digit temperature anomalies (C) quite routinely when the ruling hemispheric pattern puts a blocking ridge directly over top of them.
It's all due to pattern shifts, can't stay frigid and iced up at a location forever, has to balance itself out
381 die in Brazil slides, survivors relate horrors
TERESOPOLIS, Brazil (AP) - The power was out, but lightning flashes illuminated the horror as villagers watched neighbors' homes vanish under a wall of mud and water, turning neighborhoods into graveyards. Survivors dug at the earth barehanded Thursday, but all they found were bodies.
It was a scene of muddy destruction in mountain towns north of Rio, where at least 381 people were killed when torrential rains unleashed mudslides in the pre-dawn hours Wednesday, burying people alive as they slept.
more here
CO2 is important for the earth part, only. This, in layman's terms, is the radiation released by the Earth's surface organized by wavelength. The wavelengths in which earth does so, is in a part of the electromagnetic radiation spectrum we call infrared, or, commonly, heat.
(From: http://bouman.chem.georgetown.edu/S02/lect23/lect23green.html)
In the range of IR wavelengths emitted by earth, the bulk of it is shown in the following plot. This plot is the outgoing longwave radiation escaping to space after passing through the earth's atmosphere:
Note the big section in the middle where CO2 has absorbed 100% of the outgoing radiation that left the surface as heat, but did not escape to space.
This means that 100% of heat leaving the surface at that wavelength was absorbed by the CO2 in the atmosphere and reemitted in all directions (some went back to the surface, of course). Atmospheric molecules, nay all molecules that absorb heat cannot directionally reemit it. All directions, all the time.
Now, to zoom into the more busy 2 to 6 micron spectra, more CO2-opaque windows (parts of a spectrum, such as this):
More major co2 absorption bands. But these are also already absorbing 100% of heat leaving the surface of the earth, or nearly so.
I have seen the talking points handbook response where it is said: "In 1970, NASA launched the IRIS satellite that measured infrared spectra between 400 cm-1 to 1600 cm-1. In 1996, the Japanese Space Agency launched the IMG satellite which recorded similar observations. Harries 2001 compared both sets of data to discern any changes in outgoing radiation over the 26 year period. The resultant change in outgoing radiation was as follows:
Figure 1: Change in spectrum from 1970 to 1996 due to trace gases. 'Brightness temperature' indicates equivalent blackbody temperature (Harries 2001).
What they found was a drop in outgoing radiation at the wavelength bands that greenhouse gases such as CO2 and methane (CH4) absorb energy. The change in outgoing radiation over CO2 bands was consistent with theoretical expectations. Thus the paper found "direct experimental evidence for a significant increase in the Earth's greenhouse effect". "
So, now the question is: At what wavenumber or wavelength did CO2 successfully absorb more than 100% of heat leaving the surface of the earth? Well, that is clear if the Harries study is anything but bogus. (though it is obvious that there is something wrong to anyone familiar with this field, given that if the earth in 1970 was cooler than the earth in 1996, as postulated, then much of the last plot would be above zero.)
Okay, so then how did we all have such a wrong understanding of the OLR for so long? To think that the transmission into space of certain bands was 0.0? If it was 0.0 and then more was absorbed in that same band, that would have to mean that our satellite sensors have been warming CO2 molecules from above! (Not likely.)
So, the challenge to warmistas is to explain how more than 100% of heat gets absorbed by adding CO2 to the atmosphere. Give us a physics lesson on how 0.0 transmission to space was made even less by CO2 increases, when negative numbers would mean that heat from a body in space with a similar temperature as the earth would have to be added. (I shant hold my breath)
Since you reposted it again and again and again...
When can we call tunnels?
A WINTER STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 6 PM HST THIS
EVENING.
HEAVY SNOW SHOWERS WILL SPREAD TOWARD THE SUMMITS...AND MAY DROP
UP TO SEVERAL INCHES OF SNOW IS A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. NEW
SNOWFALL AMOUNTS OF UP TO 6 INCHES ARE POSSIBLE TODAY ABOVE 11000
FEET. STRONG SOUTHWEST WINDS GUSTING TO NEAR 50 MPH WILL RESULT IN
SIGNIFICANT BLOWING AND DRIFTING SNOW AT THE SUMMITS. HEAVIER SNOW
SHOWERS COULD BE ACCOMPANIED BY WHITEOUT CONDITIONS AND POSSIBLY
CLOUD TO GROUND LIGHTNING.
PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...
HIKERS AND CAMPERS SHOULD STRONGLY CONSIDER POSTPONING ANY TRIPS
TO THE SUMMIT UNTIL AFTER THE INCLEMENT WEATHER PASSES.
A WINTER STORM WARNING MEANS SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF SNOW...
SLEET...AND ICE ARE EXPECTED OR OCCURRING. STRONG WINDS ARE ALSO
POSSIBLE. THIS WILL MAKE TRAVEL VERY HAZARDOUS OR IMPOSSIBLE.
3. Clarification: Heat in the ocean will be transferred up by convection. Heat from the surface is only partly carried by the atmosphere, the greenhouse gas part. The rest of the heat emitted by the surface needs no medium and escapes to space after passing cleanly through the atmosphere.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subsidence_(atmosphere)
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/11/091130112421.htm
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20427344.800-mini-ice-age-took-hold-of-europe-in-months.html
http://www.bobkingsley.co.uk/blog/?p=159
Read these links. Global warming can cause cooling. Very abrupt cooling.
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