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Tropical Storm Don close to landfall; 91L tracks west
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 23:42 GMT le 29 juillet 2011 +11
Tropical Storm Don continues to make its way west-northwest toward the Texas coast this evening. Don has increased steadily in pressure over the past 18 to 24 hours. Wind speed remained 45 knots in the 5pm EDT advisory. The strongest thunderstorm activity continues to be south of the center, southeast of Brownsville, Texas, but the strongest winds are to the north according to Hurricane Hunter data. A mesoscale vortex developed on the southern end this afternoon with high radar reflectivity. Radar estimated rainfall rates are as much as 5 inches per hour to the south, and around 2 inches on the north side of the storm, but these are likely an overestimate, although rainfall rate is definitely higher on the southern end of this storm. It began raining in Brownsville, Texas in the 2pm CDT hour, and so far the airport has received 0.3 inches of rain. The heaviest thunderstorms still look to be to Brownsville's southeast.


Figure 1. Radar reflectivity from Brownsville, Texas at 5pm CDT.

Forecast for Tropical Storm Don
A Hurricane Hunter is currently in the storm, and center fixes suggest Don will make landfall south of Baffin Bay, Texas, in the next couple of hours. Tropical storm-force winds, should there be any, will most likely be seen in a swath from Baffin Bay to Corpus Christi. Once Don moves inland it is expected to dissipate quickly, and without having produced enough meaningful rainfall to impact any drought conditions. The Hydrometeorological Prediction Center isn't predicting any rainfall that would exceed flash flood guidance, and no flood watches or warnings are in effect.

NHC Invest 91L

Moderate thunderstorm activity continues in Invest 91L this afternoon, and the Hurricane Center estimates that the axis of the wave is located near 42W. Estimates from satellites show that 91L has a moderate circulation at all levels, and the Advanced Scatterometer resolved a surface circulation early this morning.


Figure 2. Advanced Scatterometer pass over 91L at 7am EDT this morning. The wind barbs show a low-level circulation had formed near the most intense thunderstorms—a good sign of potential development.

Some of the reliable models—GFS, UKMET, and CMC—are developing 91L into at least a weak tropical cyclone. The ECMWF continues to show no development, but a more interesting solution, one that takes the wave on a southerly track. The GFDL does not develop Invest 91L, but the HWRF forecasts category 1 hurricane strength by August 1st. The track for 91L is likely a turn to the northwest when it reaches the Caribbean and a curve to the northeast around the Bahamas. The models that are developing the system do not suggest this is a U.S. landfall threat, although it's pretty early in the game to predict that, and I imagine the track will fluctuate over the next few days. Today the Hurricane Center gives the wave a 30% chance of development (now 50% in the 8pm EDT outlook) over the next 48 hours, and I'm around 40-50% over its lifetime.

I'll have a post tomorrow afternoon on the aftermath of Don as well as NHC Invest 91L.

Angela
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952. Chicklit 11:47 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
The steering for 91L will continue being W to WNW for the time being... if we base it on the current steering map and a system being TD or less... a more pronounced NW track could materialize once it reaches 60W to 65W: WxLogic

Ah right. It may take turn to north by then, conditions being as speculated... lot of ifs but appreciate your taking time to explain possibilities.
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953. overwash12 11:47 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Could be another Earl type track,barely missing OBX.
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954. stormwatcherCI 11:48 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting jasonweatherman2011:
see the modeles now!!
Jason that is from last night. Look at the date and time on the bottom left.
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955. hunkerdown 11:48 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting jasonweatherman2011:
see the modeles now!!
those are the previous runs, FWIW...here are the most current model runs
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956. TampaSpin 11:49 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    



Actually DRY AIR will follow 91L for a while.......as you can see by this above. Its mere SIZE will take a while to organize completely and Shear is not really a major issue. When this thing starts a tighter Wrap we will see Monster Born. It is turning a ton of Atmosphere!
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957. hotrods 11:49 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Were a long way out still with 91L, maps and conditions will change. Hopefully it will recurve,don't want to see anybody affected by a storm. That goes for me as well living here on the space coast, all my life. Seen and been through enough storms here.
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958. Cotillion 11:49 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
On 91L:

An issue might be how fast it develops. The steering maps - right now - take a weak system on a brisk pace. The stronger it gets, the pace seems to slow a little. It's not a drop off, but a bit. As the trof comes in to steer the system late, that could be a factor later on, at a guess.
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959. hunkerdown 11:50 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting TampaSpin:



Actually DRY AIR will follow 91L for a while.......as you can see by this above. Its mere SIZE will take a while to organize completely and Shear is not really a major issue. When this thing starts a tighter Wrap we will see Monster Born. It is turning a ton of Atmosphere!
it does look like its trying to erode the trailing edge of the dry air.
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960. JrWeathermanFL 11:51 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
8:00 slow to come out.
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961. palmasdelrio 11:51 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting WxLogic:
Actually... here the updated one Jason:


Am in Puerto Rico and those models are pretty much bunched up in a direct line to us! Is it usual for models to be in so close agreement with a system that is still a couple of days from becoming a storm?
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962. hunkerdown 11:52 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting JrWeathermanFL:
8:00 slow to come out.
last time I checked the clock it was not 8:00 am yet...
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963. stormwatcherCI 11:52 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting JrWeathermanFL:
8:00 slow to come out.
It's not slow because it is not 8 AM. You are just used to it being early.
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964. MiamiHurricanes09 11:52 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
000
ABNT20 KNHC 301151
TWOAT

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
800 AM EDT SAT JUL 30 2011

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER HAS ISSUED THE LAST ADVISORY ON FORMER
TROPICAL DEPRESSION DON...LOCATED INLAND OVER SOUTHERN TEXAS.

SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS ASSOCIATED WITH A LARGE LOW PRESSURE
SYSTEM LOCATED ABOUT 900 MILES EAST OF THE WINDWARD ISLANDS ARE
GRADUALLY BECOMING BETTER ORGANIZED. SURFACE PRESSURES REMAIN LOW
IN THE AREA...AND ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS APPEAR FAVORABLE FOR A
TROPICAL DEPRESSION TO FORM OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS. THIS
SYSTEM HAS A HIGH CHANCE...70 PERCENT...OF BECOMING A TROPICAL
CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS AS IT MOVES WEST-NORTHWESTWARD AT
15 TO 20 MPH.

A TROPICAL WAVE OVER THE NORTHWESTERN CARIBBEAN SEA IS PRODUCING
DISORGANIZED SHOWER AND THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY. THIS SYSTEM WILL
LIKELY BRING LOCALLY HEAVY RAINFALL TO PORTIONS OF CENTRAL
AMERICA THROUGH THE WEEKEND AS IT MOVES WESTWARD AT 10 TO 15 MPH.
HOWEVER...NO SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT IS EXPECTED DUE TO ITS
INTERACTION WITH LAND. THIS SYSTEM HAS A LOW CHANCE...NEAR 0
PERCENT...OF BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$
FORECASTER BEVEN
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965. oceanblues32 11:52 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
So basically it is a very good chance this could head more nw and miss florida all together with a possible curve to the north the to the east could this a good scenerio
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966. redwagon 11:53 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting barbamz:
Morning everyone. I'm disappointed by the rapid disappearence of Don without leaving much water on dry Texas. But better than something like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdeFqRBg_nI&fe atur e=player_embedded
It's a frightening video of a landslide this week in flooded South Korea, hitting a street with a lot of cars.
For more visit Dave's informative landslide blog:
http://blogs.agu.org/landslideblog/

Levi's still asleep, later I'll ask him what he thinks of Remnant Don who booked across MX, is almost in to Baja waters, where he'll probably strengthen and then go on to threaten Japan.

Been tracking systems for a long time and Don is the strangest duck I've ever witnessed. Oh well. The twave in the Caribbean looks to be headed for TX, and if you use an XTRP straight line like XTRP does, it makes landfall exactly where Don did.

What's a girl got to do to get some rain around here??
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967. TampaSpin 11:53 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
We might have a TD by Late Sunday Evening with 91L....Then the Models will need at least 3-4 runs to get a grip as to what will happen. We all need to just observe and hang tight as 91L is doing nothing right now hurting no way in the middle Atlantic.
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968. JrWeathermanFL 11:53 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
91L still at 70%.
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969. stormwatcherCI 11:53 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
TWO out. It remains at 70%.
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970. JRRP 11:54 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    

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972. redwagon 11:55 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting redwagon:

Levi's still asleep, later I'll ask him what he thinks of Remnant Don who booked across MX, is almost in to Baja waters, where he'll probably strengthen and then go on to threaten Japan.

Been tracking systems for a long time and Don is the strangest duck I've ever witnessed. Oh well. The twave in the Caribbean looks to be headed for TX, and if you use an XTRP straight line like XTRP does, it makes landfall exactly where Don did.

What's a girl got to do to get some rain around here??

Edit: using XTRP on 91 puts it into Corpus Christi.
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973. howarjo1943 11:55 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Muifa has to be a Cat5, JTWC way off... hope there aren't any ships in that area that thought it was only a tropical storm...

91L probably depression by tonight/early tomorrow. Just now moving into that +28C isotherm near 50W. I think convection really explodes during DMAX tomorrow morning and we get Emily sometime on the 31st. Too early to say whether it hits the U.S... but if I lived in the Leeward Islands/Puerto Rico I would be preparing for a hurricane, starting now.
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974. FLWxChaser 11:55 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting TampaSpin:
We might have a TD by Late Sunday Evening with 91L....Then the Models will need at least 3-4 runs to get a grip as to what will happen. We all need to just observe and hang tight as 91L is doing nothing right now hurting no way in the middle Atlantic.


Great post!
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975. Chicklit 11:55 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
What's a girl got to do to get some rain around here?? -- redwagon

have you tried a rain dance? you never know...nothing else has worked.
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976. TampaSpin 11:56 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Gotta run........you all have a good day and don't stare at the computer all day getting all worked up about 91L....It could very well turn north of everything, but the Windward Islands and Puerto Rico should monitor what is going! Enjoy your Weekend.
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977. HimacaneBrees 11:56 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Even TWC is talking seriously about 91L. They had one of their experts talking about it at 5am this morning. It was after the tropical update. Normally they just say "well there is tropical a wave we're monitoring" and that's about the most of it.
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978. hunkerdown 11:57 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting HimacaneBrees:
Even TWC is talking seriously about 91L. They had one of their experts talking about it at 5am this morning. It was after the tropical update. Normally they just say "well there is tropical a wave we're monitoring" and that's about the most of it.
they have experts ?
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979. Chicklit 11:57 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting redwagon:

Edit: using XTRP on 91 puts it into Corpus Christi.


Actual track is between Mexico and Nova Scotia.
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980. Vincent4989 11:57 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Muifa very impressive that it might be mistaken for a CAT4/CAT5
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981. floridaboy14 11:58 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
i just noticed. if 91L takes a longer time to develop there is a less likely chance it recurves. so if it blows up into a cat 2 or stronger in the NE carribean there is a good chance it will rehook but if it stays a tropical storm or cat 1 in the NE carribean less likely chance of a recurvutre
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982. WxLogic 11:58 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting palmasdelrio:


When atmospheric "ingredients" are there... then they can for sure agree early in the period.
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984. HimacaneBrees 12:01 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting hunkerdown:
they have experts ?


That's what "they" called him.
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985. Neapolitan 12:01 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting Chicklit:


Actual track is between Mexico and Nova Scotia.

Well that certainly narrows it down. ;-)
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986. HimacaneBrees 12:02 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting Chicklit:


Actual track is between Mexico and Nova Scotia.


Yep i believe you got it nailed.
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987. islander101010 12:03 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting Chicklit:


Actual track is between Mexico and Nova Scotia.
home depot raising their own hurricane warning anywhere from canada to mexico needs to buy plywood or even better their 10000$ h=generator system
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988. Cotillion 12:06 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting Chicklit:


Actual track is between Mexico and Nova Scotia.


Be a stunning move if it does an about turn and decides the Azores is a great holiday destination this year!


Quoting floridaboy14:
i just noticed. if 91L takes a longer time to develop there is a less likely chance it recurves. so if it blows up into a cat 2 or stronger in the NE carribean there is a good chance it will rehook but if it stays a tropical storm or cat 1 in the NE carribean less likely chance of a recurvutre


Typically the way, stronger systems are more likely to gravitate to the weakness.
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989. IKE 12:06 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Looks like 91L is forecast by most models to go east of the east coast of the USA.....
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990. HimacaneBrees 12:07 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    


What's a girl got to do to get some rain around here??


Wash your vehicle. It always works for me. Every time I wash my truck, it pours.
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991. barbamz 12:08 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting islander101010:
home depot raising their own hurricane warning anywhere from canada to mexico needs to buy plywood or even better their 10000$ h=generator system


Lol! This might help your economy!
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992. clwstmchasr 12:08 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting IKE:
Looks like 91L is forecast by most models to go east of the east coast of the USA.....


Looking like a classic around the horn track. 2 local TV mets this morning both thought that it would not be a threat to the US. As we all know, things change.
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993. floridaboy14 12:10 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
depends on 2 things stregnth and timing. most models show the trough weaker and further north. thats a less chance of a recurvuture and the GFS 500mb heights 8-10 days show a zonal flow once the trough leaves and the ridge rebuilding. all we know is the NE carribean thats it
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994. clwstmchasr 12:11 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting hunkerdown:
they have experts ?


Yesterday, TWC had a team of 7 people covering the landfall of Don. You gotta laugh at that one:)
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995. Chicklit 12:11 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
One thing appears for sure is the system currently known as 91L will pass through the Greater Antilles.
Looking forward to reading the technical banter when the weather nerds get going...

Very much appreciate the comraderie and guidance on this site. But a watched pot never boils so will be checking back later.
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996. redwagon 12:16 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting HimacaneBrees:


Wash your vehicle. It always works for me. Every time I wash my truck, it pours.

Last time my truck got washed was by TS Hermine, AND I leave my windows open.
Maybe if I plan an elaborate $50K outdoor wedding for someone........ and I know someone who's pregnant. Hm.
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997. stormwatcherCI 12:16 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Last two positions looks like it is moving more west again than wnw.

DATE/TIME LAT LON CLASSIFICATION STORM
30/1145 UTC 10.7N 49.3W TOO WEAK 91L
30/0545 UTC 11.2N 45.7W TOO WEAK 91L
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998. HimacaneBrees 12:17 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting clwstmchasr:


Yesterday, TWC had a team of 7 people covering the landfall of Don. You gotta laugh at that one:)


Yes indeed. I bet they enjoyed the cool breeze that came through. Must've been a good day (paid day at that) on the beach.
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999. floridaboy14 12:17 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
How about just to be safe we can ALL agree on 91L going into the NE carribean? afterwards, its anyone's guess
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1001. Cotillion 12:20 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
The models, as a whole, do not seem to pick it up that well. CMC does its usual thing, GFDL takes it as a Cat 1, GFS develops it roughly in the Eastern Caribbean (which is unlikely). ECMWF develops it, but then it just dies on Hispaniola all of a sudden. The mountains there can do that, but doesn't even hint at remnants. Rest don't seem to pick it up.

They haven't been great this year, but this system isn't small, unlike Bret or Don, even cindy wasn't that big.

If it doesn't develop, they seem to want to take it through the Greater Antilles or just below them. That can lead to problems down the road.

The G-IV should help out.
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