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Not a trace of Don; What's next?
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 19:41 GMT le 30 juillet 2011 +33
Don is dead

Tropical Storm Don, the fourth named storm of the 2011 season, made landfall near Baffin Bay, Texas yesterday evening around 10pm CDT in less-than-grand fashion. The storm was looking very weak for the 24 hours before landfall, but fizzled rapidly after landfall, and by early Saturday morning, there was barely a trace of the storm to show that it even existed in the first place.

NHC Hurricane Specialist Eric Blake probably said it best in this mornings 5am EDT discussion on the storm:

THE DON IS DEAD. THE CYCLONE LITERALLY EVAPORATED OVER TEXAS ABOUT
AS FAST AS I HAVE EVER SEEN WITHOUT MOUNTAINS INVOLVED. DON HAS NO
CONVECTION...MEAGER RAINFALL...AND ONLY A SLIGHT SIGNATURE IN
SURFACE OBSERVATIONS AND RADAR DATA. THEREFORE...THIS IS THE LAST
ADVISORY ON THIS SYSTEM.


Figure 1. Total precipitation accumulation for the storm, estimated by radar.

The heaviest rainfall was falling south of the storm's center yesterday, so it wasn't surprising that Brownsville saw the most rain, 0.63 inches. KBRO also recorded 18 mph wind gusts. But to the north of the center, where many of the media were located, not a drop of rain fell. Corpus Christi saw zero inches of rain, but did record gale-force wind gusts (39 mph). Harlingen, near Baffin Bay, and close to where the center made landfall, saw 0.20 inches of rain and 18 mph wind gusts. This storm did very, very little to relieve any drought conditions in Southern Texas. And so it continues.

What's next: Invest 91L continues to impress

Invest 91L, which is located near 12°N 48°W in the central Atlantic, continues to impress today, and has shown signs of more organization over the past 24 hours. 91L will probably develop into a tropical cyclone before it reaches the Lesser Antilles, so residents of these islands should remain watchful and prepared. Satellite loops show not only organized thunderstorm activity, but also the makings of a surface circulation. Something this wave has working against it right now is dry air—there's a large mass of Saharan air on the north and east sides of the system, which could at least prevent significant intensification. Also, University of Wisconsin CIMSS analysis shows some strong wind shear (30-40 knots) to the north of the wave. However, I don't expect this to prevent development of the wave. Wind shear out ahead of the system is relatively low (5-15 knots). Moisture is plenty high within the system, and sea surface temperatures are warm and toasty (28°C+) and will only get warmer as 91L moves west into the Caribbean.


Figure 2. Infrared satellite of invest 91L taken at 1:15pm EDT today.

Forecast for 91L
Most of the reliable forecast models (GFS, CMC, FIM, and the ECMWF) have come to agree that 91L will develop, however, they differ on how long-lived that will be. Some of the models are suggesting it will be a short-lived tropical cyclone, not making it out of the Caribbean alive, and some suggest that it will hold together and intensify as it moves north of the Caribbean islands. The forecast track for the system will most likely be to the northwest through the Caribbean, at which point it will take a northeast turn near the Bahamas, never reaching the U.S. coast. HWRF agrees with this track (and also brings the system to category 2 strength by August 3rd). However, there is still some uncertainty that the system could track west, south of the Caribbean islands, and potentially into the Gulf of Mexico. However, none of the models that suggest this solution actually show that the wave will be a tropical cyclone at that point.

The National Hurricane Center is giving this wave an 80% chance of developing into at least Tropical Depression Five over the next 48 hours. Chances are we will see Emily out of this system. A Hurricane Hunter mission is scheduled for tomorrow at 2pm EDT, but I wouldn't be totally surprised to see them call this system this evening, given the threat to the Lesser Antilles.

Watching a northwest Caribbean disturbance

A broad area of disturbed weather is producing some heavy thunderstorms in the northwest Caribbean, southeast of the Yucatan Peninsula. Little to no low-level circulation exists with this feature, and none of the models are picking up on it. The Hurricane Center has "blobbed" this item (as I like to say) with a "near 0%" chance of developing over the next 48 hours. This disturbance could cause major flooding in the region given the amount of thunderstorm activity, and predictability for systems like this (potential Bay of Cempeche tropical cyclones) is very low. Models have a short lead time on development, and they spin up very fast once they enter the Bay of Campeche given the favorable topography of the land surrounding it. The difference between this system, though, and one like Arlene, is that there is very, very little low level circulation already present. Pre-Arlene was a bit more organized before it crossed the Yucatan, and so it's hard to imagine that this disturbance will be able to hold together, should it get that far.

If 91L develops, I'll be back tomorrow with a post.

Angela
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5451. ProgressivePulse 04:12 GMT le 01 août 2011    
Deep convection showing up on the JSL, just east of the center.

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5452. MississippiWx 04:12 GMT le 01 août 2011    
Quoting Levi32:
0z GFS has issues....91L's center is initialized quite a bit too far southwest.



It keeps 91L very broad and weak well into the Caribbean.

84hr:

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5454. OracleDeAtlantis 04:13 GMT le 01 août 2011    
Here's that incredible ejection of the western center to the eastern and dominant center.

For awhile I thought it might go the other way, but amazingly, it didn't. The larger and stronger mid-level circulation seemed to be what won out.

Fascinating to watch ...

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5455. Levi32 04:13 GMT le 01 août 2011    
In fact, the latest ACTF coordinates look too far southwest as well, which may make the 0z model suite a bit off. The low should consolidate northeast of where ACTF and the models have it right now.
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5456. extreme236 04:13 GMT le 01 août 2011    
Quoting MississippiWx:


There's a reason why myself and a lot of other have him on ignore.


Well I definitely apologize for any drama caused here. I didn't have on ignore because I do like some of his imput but there comes a point when its too much.
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5457. OminousCloud 04:14 GMT le 01 août 2011    
Quoting IceCoast:
GFS shifts west again through 72 hours. Lets see what the rest of the run shows.

Not good.....
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5458. jonelu 04:14 GMT le 01 août 2011    
Quoting Levi32:
0z GFS has issues....91L's center is initialized quite a bit too far southwest.


so do you think there is any model that reliable at this point with the lack of recon date?
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5460. IceCoast 04:14 GMT le 01 août 2011    
90 hrs
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5461. Levi32 04:15 GMT le 01 août 2011    
Quoting MississippiWx:


It keeps 91L very broad and weak well into the Caribbean.

84hr:



Probably because the initialization puts the low center southwest of the greatest surface convergence, essentially making the model see the system as much less organized than it actually is.
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5462. Gearsts 04:15 GMT le 01 août 2011    
Quoting ProgressivePulse:
Deep convection showing up on the JSL, just east of the center.

East?
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5463. IceCoast 04:16 GMT le 01 août 2011    
Quoting Levi32:
0z GFS has issues....91L's center is initialized quite a bit too far southwest.


You're right, didn't even notice that. Good eye.
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5464. hurricanehunter27 04:16 GMT le 01 août 2011    
Quoting ProgressivePulse:
Deep convection showing up on the JSL, just east of the center.

If this is 91L convection for it to get to TD satus the syeteme is going to be massive!
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5465. Levi32 04:17 GMT le 01 août 2011    
Quoting jonelu:

so do you think there is any model that reliable at this point with the lack of recon date?


I think the big shift in the 18z and 0z runs into the middle of Hispaniola is an overreaction based on the confusion today on the exact location of 91L. I expect the models to shift back closer to PR tomorrow, though the Dominican Republic is certainly still in great danger.
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5466. TampaSpin 04:17 GMT le 01 août 2011    
Quoting MississippiWx:


There's a reason why myself and a lot of other have him on ignore.


Thank you!....there is no reason for his constant riducle of my every post it seems........he started this morning as i was just tired of it already. DONE
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5469. MississippiWx 04:18 GMT le 01 août 2011    
Quoting Levi32:


Probably because the initialization puts the low center well southwest of the greatest surface convergence, essentially making the model see the system as much less organized than it actually is.


Yep. We might have to throw out most of the 00z guidance. I'd put the dominant circulation up around 15N. The GFS initializes it around 13N.
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5470. IceCoast 04:18 GMT le 01 août 2011    
102Hrs
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5472. VAbeachhurricanes 04:19 GMT le 01 août 2011    
Quoting TampaSpin:


Thank you!....there is no reason for his constant riducle of my every post it seems........he started this morning as i was just tired of it already. DONE


yeah.... mississippi was talking about you...
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5473. TampaSpin 04:19 GMT le 01 août 2011    



The BAM MODELS seen very Logical.
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5474. Gearsts 04:19 GMT le 01 août 2011    
Quoting Levi32:


I think the big shift in the 18z and 0z runs into the middle of Hispaniola is an overreaction based on the confusion today on the exact location of 91L. I expect the models to shift back closer to PR tomorrow, though the Dominican Republic is certainly still in great danger.
Levy where would you put the center of 91L? And i started fealing safe here in PR now you say that the shift south and west is overdo! :/ Im confuse to say the least
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5475. ProgressivePulse 04:19 GMT le 01 août 2011    
Quoting Gearsts:
East?


Directly...

AL, 91, 2011080100, , BEST, 0, 133N, 565W, 25, 1009
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5476. scott39 04:19 GMT le 01 août 2011    
Quoting MississippiWx:


Yep. We might have to throw out most of the 00z guidance. I'd put the dominant circulation up around 15N. The GFS initializes it around 13N.
Tropical Atlantic puts it at 13.3N 56.5W
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5478. IceCoast 04:20 GMT le 01 août 2011    
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5479. yoboi 04:20 GMT le 01 août 2011    
it looks to be heading nw now
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5480. MississippiWx 04:20 GMT le 01 août 2011    
Quoting VAbeachhurricanes:


yeah.... mississippi was talking about you...


Lol...Ding ding ding...We have a winner!
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5481. wxhatt 04:20 GMT le 01 août 2011    
Quoting Levi32:
0z GFS has issues....91L's center is initialized quite a bit too far southwest.



LOL, the GFS is as confused as a lot of us are. I believe this one is going to cause Wailing And Gnashing Of Teeth!
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5482. angiest 04:21 GMT le 01 août 2011    
Quoting TxHurricanedude11:
wth its goes ne over dr and then develops it???lol


Must be following the highly accurate, infallible, LSM model.
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5483. VAbeachhurricanes 04:21 GMT le 01 août 2011    
Quoting MississippiWx:


Lol...Ding ding ding...We have a winner!



Thats a little awkward.... hahaha
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5484. MississippiWx 04:21 GMT le 01 août 2011    
Quoting scott39:
Tropical Atlantic puts it at 13.3N 56.5W


Yeah, that's where the GFS is initializing. Like Levi and I said, that doesn't appear to be the correct coordinate.
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5485. Tropicsweatherpr 04:22 GMT le 01 août 2011    
Levi,how do you you see the situation for Puerto Rico in particular in terms of a hit? I know plenty of rain will come,unless it passes well to the south.
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5486. extreme236 04:22 GMT le 01 août 2011    


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5487. TampaSpin 04:22 GMT le 01 août 2011    
Quoting VAbeachhurricanes:


yeah.... mississippi was talking about you...


I know......
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5488. scott39 04:22 GMT le 01 août 2011    
Quoting MississippiWx:


Yeah, that's where the GFS is initializing. Like Levi and I said, that doesn't appear to be the correct coordinate.
Could you please explain why not?
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5489. MississippiWx 04:22 GMT le 01 août 2011    
Quoting VAbeachhurricanes:



Thats a little awkward.... hahaha


LOL. You are correct.
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5490. IceCoast 04:22 GMT le 01 août 2011    
Starts to lift out at 120hrs

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5492. Gearsts 04:23 GMT le 01 août 2011    
Quoting ProgressivePulse:


Directly...

AL, 91, 2011080100, , BEST, 0, 133N, 565W, 25, 1009
155n
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5494. KoritheMan 04:23 GMT le 01 août 2011    
Quoting MississippiWx:


Yep. We might have to throw out most of the 00z guidance. I'd put the dominant circulation up around 15N. The GFS initializes it around 13N.


Looks closer to 14N to me.
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5495. Levi32 04:24 GMT le 01 août 2011    
Quoting Gearsts:
Levy where would you put the center of 91L? And i started fealing safe here in PR now you say that the shift south and west is overdo! :/ Im confuse to say the least


Please don't start feeling safe based on one model cycle. PR is right in the middle of this situation. It will be a while yet before we know if the island will get the hit or not.

It's probably pretty close to 14.5N, 55W.
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5496. nofailsafe 04:24 GMT le 01 août 2011    
Quoting wxhatt:


LOL, the GFS is as confused as a lot of us are. I believe this one is going to cause Wailing And Gnashing Of Teeth!


Oh well, it's a messy system to begin with. That whole region is a'bubblin!
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5497. sarahjola 04:24 GMT le 01 août 2011    
Quoting angiest:
Steering is interesting. (Assuming CIMSS is correct.) The deeper layers currently look like they would block a northward turn from 91L's current position. Indeed, the mid levels currently have the only reasonable weakness. Granted, there is a lot of time for that to change.

thank you!!!! this is what i have been looking for. someone to talk about steering and not models. i am glad you posted this. this is real information on what is going on now, not what the models are saying should be happening.
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5499. VAbeachhurricanes 04:25 GMT le 01 août 2011    
Quoting TampaSpin:


I know......


I'm so confused....
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5500. Levi32 04:25 GMT le 01 août 2011    
Quoting Tropicsweatherpr:
Levi,how do you you see the situation for Puerto Rico in particular in terms of a hit? I know plenty of rain will come,unless it passes well to the south.


It'll be close. Today has been a mess because the system was a mess, and without a defined center, the track has a large degree of certainty even in the short-term. We're just now getting it to start developing, and when it finally gets classified, we should be able to hone in better. Until then, uncertainty remains, and both the Dominican Republic and PR should be preparing.
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5501. extreme236 04:25 GMT le 01 août 2011    


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