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Not a trace of Don; What's next?
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 19:41 GMT le 30 juillet 2011 +33
Don is dead

Tropical Storm Don, the fourth named storm of the 2011 season, made landfall near Baffin Bay, Texas yesterday evening around 10pm CDT in less-than-grand fashion. The storm was looking very weak for the 24 hours before landfall, but fizzled rapidly after landfall, and by early Saturday morning, there was barely a trace of the storm to show that it even existed in the first place.

NHC Hurricane Specialist Eric Blake probably said it best in this mornings 5am EDT discussion on the storm:

THE DON IS DEAD. THE CYCLONE LITERALLY EVAPORATED OVER TEXAS ABOUT
AS FAST AS I HAVE EVER SEEN WITHOUT MOUNTAINS INVOLVED. DON HAS NO
CONVECTION...MEAGER RAINFALL...AND ONLY A SLIGHT SIGNATURE IN
SURFACE OBSERVATIONS AND RADAR DATA. THEREFORE...THIS IS THE LAST
ADVISORY ON THIS SYSTEM.


Figure 1. Total precipitation accumulation for the storm, estimated by radar.

The heaviest rainfall was falling south of the storm's center yesterday, so it wasn't surprising that Brownsville saw the most rain, 0.63 inches. KBRO also recorded 18 mph wind gusts. But to the north of the center, where many of the media were located, not a drop of rain fell. Corpus Christi saw zero inches of rain, but did record gale-force wind gusts (39 mph). Harlingen, near Baffin Bay, and close to where the center made landfall, saw 0.20 inches of rain and 18 mph wind gusts. This storm did very, very little to relieve any drought conditions in Southern Texas. And so it continues.

What's next: Invest 91L continues to impress

Invest 91L, which is located near 12°N 48°W in the central Atlantic, continues to impress today, and has shown signs of more organization over the past 24 hours. 91L will probably develop into a tropical cyclone before it reaches the Lesser Antilles, so residents of these islands should remain watchful and prepared. Satellite loops show not only organized thunderstorm activity, but also the makings of a surface circulation. Something this wave has working against it right now is dry air—there's a large mass of Saharan air on the north and east sides of the system, which could at least prevent significant intensification. Also, University of Wisconsin CIMSS analysis shows some strong wind shear (30-40 knots) to the north of the wave. However, I don't expect this to prevent development of the wave. Wind shear out ahead of the system is relatively low (5-15 knots). Moisture is plenty high within the system, and sea surface temperatures are warm and toasty (28°C+) and will only get warmer as 91L moves west into the Caribbean.


Figure 2. Infrared satellite of invest 91L taken at 1:15pm EDT today.

Forecast for 91L
Most of the reliable forecast models (GFS, CMC, FIM, and the ECMWF) have come to agree that 91L will develop, however, they differ on how long-lived that will be. Some of the models are suggesting it will be a short-lived tropical cyclone, not making it out of the Caribbean alive, and some suggest that it will hold together and intensify as it moves north of the Caribbean islands. The forecast track for the system will most likely be to the northwest through the Caribbean, at which point it will take a northeast turn near the Bahamas, never reaching the U.S. coast. HWRF agrees with this track (and also brings the system to category 2 strength by August 3rd). However, there is still some uncertainty that the system could track west, south of the Caribbean islands, and potentially into the Gulf of Mexico. However, none of the models that suggest this solution actually show that the wave will be a tropical cyclone at that point.

The National Hurricane Center is giving this wave an 80% chance of developing into at least Tropical Depression Five over the next 48 hours. Chances are we will see Emily out of this system. A Hurricane Hunter mission is scheduled for tomorrow at 2pm EDT, but I wouldn't be totally surprised to see them call this system this evening, given the threat to the Lesser Antilles.

Watching a northwest Caribbean disturbance

A broad area of disturbed weather is producing some heavy thunderstorms in the northwest Caribbean, southeast of the Yucatan Peninsula. Little to no low-level circulation exists with this feature, and none of the models are picking up on it. The Hurricane Center has "blobbed" this item (as I like to say) with a "near 0%" chance of developing over the next 48 hours. This disturbance could cause major flooding in the region given the amount of thunderstorm activity, and predictability for systems like this (potential Bay of Cempeche tropical cyclones) is very low. Models have a short lead time on development, and they spin up very fast once they enter the Bay of Campeche given the favorable topography of the land surrounding it. The difference between this system, though, and one like Arlene, is that there is very, very little low level circulation already present. Pre-Arlene was a bit more organized before it crossed the Yucatan, and so it's hard to imagine that this disturbance will be able to hold together, should it get that far.

If 91L develops, I'll be back tomorrow with a post.

Angela
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101. 7544 20:16 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
this is one large invest in size
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102. cchsweatherman 20:16 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
In my mind, it will really come down to the trough split as to the future path of this storm after it impacts the islands. Since trough splits are so tricky to forecast, especially when it comes to interaction with tropical systems, I cannot buy into the curve northward and out to sea at this time. I do recognize its a solid prospect, but so is a storm moving in tandem generally westward with a cut-off upper level low.
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103. tropicfreak 20:17 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting Gorty:


How trustworthy is the NAEFS?

if i were you, I wouldn't trust any model right now till we have a cyclone with a number or a name.


I'm with you on that, lets worry about development first then worry about track.
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104. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 20:17 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
remember this early into the game

garbage in garbage out

it will be 24 hrs or more before models get a grip on things


and as always remember
models are meant to be used for guidance only
and donot dipict final outcome too any one single event things can and will change
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105. Patrap 20:17 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
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106. MrstormX 20:18 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting tropicfreak:


I'm with you on that, lets worry about development first then worry about track.


+100000000 if I could.
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107. RitaEvac 20:18 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
If 91L was in the EPAC, NHC would of called it by now. They're just as stupid as the politicians in washington, cough, yack, snort
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108. unruly 20:19 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting MrstormX:


Don't piss me off, Bermuda is a inhabited place also.
Are you picking on "the resident?" He spends more time watching the tropics than you will ever think of. Leave him alone!!
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109. ncstorm 20:19 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Until the models agree on the trough and the High Pressures, I am not sold on the CONUS escaping a hit just yet..

Latest HPC Extended Discussion

HPC SURFACE/FRONTS AND 500 MB MEDIUM RANGE PROGS FOR DAYS 3-7
REMAIN PRIMARILY DERIVED FROM A BLEND OF THE 00Z GFS/ECMWF
ENSEMBLE MEANS. AFTER REMARKABLY CLOSE AGREEMENT INTO DAY
3/TUE...GUIDANCE DOES DIVERGE FOR A PORTION OF THE NATION BY DAY
4/WED WITH THE 00Z ECMWF SUPPRESSING THE MAIN SYSTEM TRACK MORE
SOUTHWARD OVER THE EAST-CENTRAL US COMPARED TO MOST OTHER GUIDANCE
THAT KEEP IT CLOSER TO THE CANADIAN BORDER. THIS 00Z ECMWF
SOLUTION WAS A BREAK FROM CONTINUITY AND SEEMS CONTRARY TO
CLIMATOLOGY AND PERSISTENCE. THE NEWER 12Z ECMWF HAS ONLY TRENDED
SLIGHTLY FARTHER NORTH. MEANWHILE...THE 00/06/12Z GFS RUNS REMAIN
SOMEWHAT NOISY AT SMALLER SCALES AND THE 00Z GEM GLOBAL REMAINS
IMPROBABLY COMPLEX.
HOWEVER...THE ECMWF ENSEMBLE MEAN IS IN CLOSE
SYNC WITH THE GEFS MEAN. PREFER A BLEND OF THESE MEANS THAT SEEM
TO BETTER HIGHLIGHT ONLY THE MORE PREDICTABLE FORECAST
COMPONENTS...BUT DID APPLY MORE WEIGHTING TO THE ECMWF ENSEMBLE
MEAN AS PER HPC CONTINUITY AND DUE TO ITS HIGHER RESOLUTION THAT
MAY BE A SIGNIFICANT FACTOR IN A PATTERN WHERE EFFECTIVE FRONTS
ARE MUDDLED BY CONVECTION AND SHORTWAVE TIMING/PLACEMENT
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110. FLWeatherFreak91 20:19 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Anyone remember what happened to Jeanne in '04? It started getting picked up by a deep trough, but was shunted back west by a strong ridge
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112. K8eCane 20:19 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
well im in southeast NC and i live on a FIXED income and own my home which takes upkeep. I cant afford a storm
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114. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 20:20 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting HurricaneEmily:
I will absolutely drop dead and whither away if the U.S gets sparred this year again. On a bright note, I'm still holding onto hope for SF come October, since that's actually our most dangerous month down here, believe it or not, and Levi knows why. Emily be very well ensue the pattern of fish storms like what we saw last year.
well heres hoping for a non landfalling year for the US
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115. tropicfreak 20:20 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting MrstormX:


+100000000 if I could.


I mean we do have plenty of time to watch it, it still has a few days before it even approaches the lessler antillies.
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116. Dennis8 20:20 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Thanks Angela for your steady blogging..You are professional, emotionally stable and sober something needed on here at times! :>)
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117. floridaboy14 20:21 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
this is not like 2010. 2010 had a STRONG PERSISTENT meanining it moved very slowly out trough. this one will be a quick one and there is a 50 chance it curves out and 50 chance it doesnt..
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119. EYEStoSEA 20:22 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting Patrap:


Wish that one could just muster up enough "umph" to move some rain toward drought areas of La and TX
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122. jonelu 20:23 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting cchsweatherman:
In my mind, it will really come down to the trough split as to the future path of this storm after it impacts the islands. Since trough splits are so tricky to forecast, especially when it comes to interaction with tropical systems, I cannot buy into the curve northward and out to sea at this time. I do recognize its a solid prospect, but so is a storm moving in tandem generally westward with a cut-off upper level low.

agreed...plus the models are spread out. Until it had a defined center I think its hard to put too much into the models outside of 3 days. Models were calling for Don to enter into the Bahamas and he stayed South of the big Islands and hit southern TX. I think we are still in a wait and see situation until we have a well defined COC.
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124. SubtropicalHi 20:23 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Angela:

Thank you to both & Dr. Masters - for keeping us informed about Don & explaining reasons for his demise. It meant a lot to those of us in Texas.
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125. weatherman566 20:24 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
From looking at the models, the storm *might* be pulled out to sea because of a trough digging and high pressure to the east? In other words, the storm finds a weakness in between these two areas and pushes Northeast?

It'll be interesting to see how large and powerful this system becomes, because I believe that can influence it's track as well.
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126. Levi32 20:24 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting P451:

91L - ending 1845z



Muifa



Wow that looks familiar...remember when Wilma went through trochoidal oscillations like that? It could imply an EWRC in the near future as well.
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127. unruly 20:25 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
A friendly hello..
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128. Patrap 20:25 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
..We can dance if we want to..

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129. EYEStoSEA 20:25 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting HimacaneBrees:
Confucius say "it is much better to be pissed off than pissed on"


LOLOL, that's a good one.....:o
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130. MiamiHurricanes09 20:25 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Yesterday, it was going into the Caribbean. Today, it's going out to sea.

Let's see what tomorrow brings, LOL.
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131. nrtiwlnvragn 20:25 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting P451:

91L - ending 1845z



Muifa



So which center would the NHC designate as 05L, the one on the left or the one on the right? Not specifically addressed at you, you just posted the loop showing it.
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132. FrankZapper 20:26 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting tropicfreak:
2009. palmbaywhoo 7:34 PM GMT on July 30, 2011 +0
Quoting tropicfreak:


wow
I would say if anything, people think your a troll more than Jason by the fact that your comments are automatically minimized and his aren't. Be nice! Plenty of room for all of us here to put in our 2 cents worth on the weather


I apologize, but it just gets annoying when he keeps making several handles, which is unnecessary, sorry, I just lost my temper.
Will the REAL troll please stand up.
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133. blsealevel 20:27 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting floridaboy14:
this is not like 2010. 2010 had a STRONG PERSISTENT meanining it moved very slowly out trough. this one will be a quick one and there is a 50 chance it curves out and 50 chance it doesnt..


Looks like alittle more then 50% looking at the models that jasonweatherman2011 just put out.

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134. GeoffreyWPB 20:27 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting Levi32:


Wow that looks familiar...remember when Wilma went through trochoidal oscillations like that? It could imply an EWRC in the near future as well.


I'm having trochoidal oscillations reading some of these posts :)
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135. Gorty 20:27 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting jasonweatherman2011:
look at all models tune it out to sea now wow!! i am right again!!


Not all of them. Some of them has it in the general direction of NYC and points north.
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136. RitaEvac 20:28 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Xtrap is tracking that mid level center, the LLC is moving W and WNW. Throw out the Xtrap, it's tracking wrong vorticy
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137. yonzabam 20:28 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting MrstormX:
Bermuda is "out to sea", remember that.


So is Greenland, the Faeroe islands and Ireland. Is this another tedious 'fish storm' post?
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138. MrstormX 20:28 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting unruly:
Are you picking on "the resident?" He spends more time watching the tropics than you will ever think of. Leave him alone!!


You expect me to believe Jason lives in Bermuda, I doubt it.
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139. cchsweatherman 20:28 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
This is from the latest NWS Miami forecast discussion. Very well explained:

A LARGE AREA OF LOW PRESSURE LOCATED SOME 900 MILES EAST OF THE
LESSER ANTILLES IS LOOKING BETTER ORGANIZED. NHC NOW GIVES THIS
AN 80 PERCENT CHANCE OF DEVELOPING INTO A TROPICAL CYCLONE WITHIN
THE NEXT 48 HOURS. THE OVERALL MODEL CONSENSUS IS FOR THIS SYSTEM
(SHOULD IT INDEED DEVELOP ITS NAME WOULD BE EMILY) TO TRACK
TOWARDS THE VICINITY OF THE LEEWARD ISLANDS/PUERTO RICO BY MID
WEEK. AS ALWAYS...THERE`S A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY. MUCH WILL DEPEND
ON THE STRENGTH OF THE SYSTEM IN TERMS OF ITS EVENTUAL TRACK. IF
IT BECOMES A HURRICANE IT WILL FEEL THE TROUGH MORE AND GET PULLED
NORTH AND EVENTUALLY NORTHEAST. HOWEVER...A WEAKER SYSTEM WOULD
MEAN A MORE WESTWARD TRACK. ALSO...THE MID/UPPER PATTERN BY LATE
NEXT WEEK IS IN QUESTION WITH THE 30.00Z RUN (12Z NOT IN YET) OF
THE ECMWF SHOWING MORE RIDGING BUILDING IN OVER THE WESTERN
ATLANTIC BY LATE WEEK. SO THE BOTTOM LINE FOR OUR LOCAL WEATHER IS
THAT IT`S JUST SOMETHING TO MONITOR OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS.
WILL MAINTAIN A CLIMO FORECAST FOR THE END OF THE FORECAST PERIOD.
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140. sunlinepr 20:29 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
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142. RitaEvac 20:29 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
BTW Angela, it's gotta move NW before moving NE
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143. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 20:29 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting HurricaneEmily:


you want em to die, keeper? wow, =(.
no i just want you to witness another year of non landfalling storms so you get no thrill of watching others suffer if you die because of that thats more your problem than mine
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144. JrWeathermanFL 20:30 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting jasonweatherman2011:
look at all models tune it out to sea now wow!! i am right again!!

Not every model.
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145. Skylink 20:30 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Yup, as I said earlier, still looking like a fish for the US. It amazes me how many people here seem to want destruction to happen.
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146. HadesGodWyvern 20:30 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Earthquake Information (Earthquake and Seismic Intensity Information)
Issued at 03:58 JST 31 Jul 2011

Occurred at (JST) Latitude
(degree) Longitude
(degree) Depth Magnitude Region Name
03:54 JST 31 Jul 2011 36.9N 141.3E 40 km 6.4 Fukushima-ken
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148. CanesfanatUT 20:31 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting P451:

91L - ending 1845z



Muifa

\

Looks like 2 centers? Anyone else see that?
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149. HimacaneBrees 20:32 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
Yesterday, it was going into the Caribbean. Today, it's going out to sea.

Let's see what tomorrow brings, LOL.


Headed back to Africa?
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150. StarnzMet 20:32 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Guys I firmly believe this storm will have an impact on the islands and will recurve northward just to the East of the Bahamas. However, I will not make a final call until the models have the data from the HH. I put the odds for US impact 70% no 30% yes, expect that to go up too, as the models get a better fix on this storm.
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151. stormwatcherCI 20:32 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting MrstormX:


You expect me to believe Jason lives in Bermuda, I doubt it.
He means resident blogger. Jason is on here so much I sometimes wonder when he sleeps.
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