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Not a trace of Don; What's next?
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 19:41 GMT le 30 juillet 2011 +33
Don is dead

Tropical Storm Don, the fourth named storm of the 2011 season, made landfall near Baffin Bay, Texas yesterday evening around 10pm CDT in less-than-grand fashion. The storm was looking very weak for the 24 hours before landfall, but fizzled rapidly after landfall, and by early Saturday morning, there was barely a trace of the storm to show that it even existed in the first place.

NHC Hurricane Specialist Eric Blake probably said it best in this mornings 5am EDT discussion on the storm:

THE DON IS DEAD. THE CYCLONE LITERALLY EVAPORATED OVER TEXAS ABOUT
AS FAST AS I HAVE EVER SEEN WITHOUT MOUNTAINS INVOLVED. DON HAS NO
CONVECTION...MEAGER RAINFALL...AND ONLY A SLIGHT SIGNATURE IN
SURFACE OBSERVATIONS AND RADAR DATA. THEREFORE...THIS IS THE LAST
ADVISORY ON THIS SYSTEM.


Figure 1. Total precipitation accumulation for the storm, estimated by radar.

The heaviest rainfall was falling south of the storm's center yesterday, so it wasn't surprising that Brownsville saw the most rain, 0.63 inches. KBRO also recorded 18 mph wind gusts. But to the north of the center, where many of the media were located, not a drop of rain fell. Corpus Christi saw zero inches of rain, but did record gale-force wind gusts (39 mph). Harlingen, near Baffin Bay, and close to where the center made landfall, saw 0.20 inches of rain and 18 mph wind gusts. This storm did very, very little to relieve any drought conditions in Southern Texas. And so it continues.

What's next: Invest 91L continues to impress

Invest 91L, which is located near 12°N 48°W in the central Atlantic, continues to impress today, and has shown signs of more organization over the past 24 hours. 91L will probably develop into a tropical cyclone before it reaches the Lesser Antilles, so residents of these islands should remain watchful and prepared. Satellite loops show not only organized thunderstorm activity, but also the makings of a surface circulation. Something this wave has working against it right now is dry air—there's a large mass of Saharan air on the north and east sides of the system, which could at least prevent significant intensification. Also, University of Wisconsin CIMSS analysis shows some strong wind shear (30-40 knots) to the north of the wave. However, I don't expect this to prevent development of the wave. Wind shear out ahead of the system is relatively low (5-15 knots). Moisture is plenty high within the system, and sea surface temperatures are warm and toasty (28°C+) and will only get warmer as 91L moves west into the Caribbean.


Figure 2. Infrared satellite of invest 91L taken at 1:15pm EDT today.

Forecast for 91L
Most of the reliable forecast models (GFS, CMC, FIM, and the ECMWF) have come to agree that 91L will develop, however, they differ on how long-lived that will be. Some of the models are suggesting it will be a short-lived tropical cyclone, not making it out of the Caribbean alive, and some suggest that it will hold together and intensify as it moves north of the Caribbean islands. The forecast track for the system will most likely be to the northwest through the Caribbean, at which point it will take a northeast turn near the Bahamas, never reaching the U.S. coast. HWRF agrees with this track (and also brings the system to category 2 strength by August 3rd). However, there is still some uncertainty that the system could track west, south of the Caribbean islands, and potentially into the Gulf of Mexico. However, none of the models that suggest this solution actually show that the wave will be a tropical cyclone at that point.

The National Hurricane Center is giving this wave an 80% chance of developing into at least Tropical Depression Five over the next 48 hours. Chances are we will see Emily out of this system. A Hurricane Hunter mission is scheduled for tomorrow at 2pm EDT, but I wouldn't be totally surprised to see them call this system this evening, given the threat to the Lesser Antilles.

Watching a northwest Caribbean disturbance

A broad area of disturbed weather is producing some heavy thunderstorms in the northwest Caribbean, southeast of the Yucatan Peninsula. Little to no low-level circulation exists with this feature, and none of the models are picking up on it. The Hurricane Center has "blobbed" this item (as I like to say) with a "near 0%" chance of developing over the next 48 hours. This disturbance could cause major flooding in the region given the amount of thunderstorm activity, and predictability for systems like this (potential Bay of Cempeche tropical cyclones) is very low. Models have a short lead time on development, and they spin up very fast once they enter the Bay of Campeche given the favorable topography of the land surrounding it. The difference between this system, though, and one like Arlene, is that there is very, very little low level circulation already present. Pre-Arlene was a bit more organized before it crossed the Yucatan, and so it's hard to imagine that this disturbance will be able to hold together, should it get that far.

If 91L develops, I'll be back tomorrow with a post.

Angela
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2301. nofailsafe 14:38 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting HurricaneSwirl:


Funny how Eugene won. Yesterday at 2AM pre-Eugene was only at 10% while 91L was at 70%. Now We have a TS out of the 10% but nothing out of the 70% yet. XD


It's simmering, kind of like a good stew.
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2302. IceCoast 14:39 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting nrtiwlnvragn:
ASCAT just missed




Lol, has it even hit since the initial pass a few days ago which confirmed we had a LLC? Purely hit and miss with ASCAT. BTW i PM'd you the documentation on the FIM model,
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2303. Tazmanian 14:39 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting Snowlover123:


Poor Florida is right! The GFDL also hits S Florida.





wow
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2304. kmanhurricaneman 14:39 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
i wouldnt put too much faith in the storm models right now especially GFDL, this one tends to be off untill system has developed
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2305. aspectre 14:39 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
2175 Tazmanian "hi. dont you mean 91L?"

Yep, noted and corrected... on my last 3 comments.
'Copy&paste, then fill-in the blanks' also multiplies typos.

2171 aspectre "Using straightline projection of the travel-speed&heading derived from the ATCF coordinates for 6amGMT then 12pmGMT, 91L was headed toward MyrtleGrove,NorthCarolina."
2181 ncstorm "I have never heard of Myrtle grove, NC..do you mean myrtle beach, sc..there is a subdivision called myrtle grove in wilmington, nc but thats not a town or city"

Got the right subdivision. Didn't know whether the beach community of MyrtleGrove was incorporated.
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2306. java162 14:39 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting nrtiwlnvragn:
ASCAT just missed




are these reds and yellows i see out there? this is already a ts
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2307. Snowlover123 14:39 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting NICycloneChaser:


That's the 00Z run, the 06Z doesn't so much with 91L, though it does take it fairly westward.


Yeah, I was going to add that, which is fairly interesting.
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2308. ncstorm 14:40 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting K8eCane:
NCSTORM...yes i remember people had little boats to get out of their cul-de-sac back then...Good to meet you too!!


LOL..I remember the horror stories though when Bertha and Floyd came through and people had so many water moccasins and frogs in their yards because of that flooding..I can deal with hurricanes but not the rodents that come with them..I remember when Charley hit Wilmington as a Cat 1, the news outlets were showing sewer rats in town swimming in the flooding..uggghh..people seem to forget those little reminders of hurricanes as well..
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2311. hurricane23 14:40 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
A -PNA/-NAO, which have more or less been in place the past two months, do not favor a ridge over the western Atlantic.

Most likely outcome is for this to recurve
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2312. weatherguy03 14:41 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
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2313. Melagoo 14:41 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    


looks like another big wave ...
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2314. Snowlover123 14:41 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting chevycanes:

it does not show it hitting FL.


Not in that timeframe, but if you were to extrapolate the track out, it would likely have hit Florida. Regardless, it is a considerable shift west by the HWRF.
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2315. PcolaDan 14:41 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting lucreto:


The Leplacian Synoptic Model, and the slightly more complex Laplacian Interpolated Synoptic Gridded Model. Both can not be linked because they are purely experimental here in Fort Collins Colorado. But, do not be surprised to see them in the official suite in 2-3 years.


How about the LGM and LGEN?
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2316. NICycloneChaser 14:41 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting Snowlover123:


Yeah, I was going to add that, which is fairly interesting.


It is, no model is being consistent, with the exception perhaps of the GFS, suggesting that some small changes could change a lot of things.
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2317. Vincent4989 14:42 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Eugene (Krabs) looking impressive!
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2318. aquak9 14:42 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
TropAnalyst13- horridly hot n muggy. Indices already over 100º in the back yard.

Dak- no donuts but I just pulled some fresh carrots, sweet as apples they are.
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2319. java162 14:42 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
the nhc is getting me angry... if this system was in the gulf it would have been a depression or ts since yesterday morning... i dont see the point of these double standards
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2320. superpete 14:42 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting stormwatcherCI:
Link

I hope this link works. I don't know if he is still on but this brings it just where he said and Angela calls this model reliable.
Thanks... Most likely when the NHC designates a TD/TS the models will then reflect any changes to track. I do agree it looks like generally a trend more to the west this morning though?
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2321. K8eCane 14:42 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
NCSTORM...Im with you on that...CANNOT take the water Moccasins
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2322. jpsb 14:42 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting sarahjola:
i am going to ask a crazy question and hope that someone will answer. is it possible for 2 storms to form so close together, and if so would that mean they follow the same path? if you can answer please do! thanks!
Not likely, more likely is 91L forms, moves north when the wave might, i say again might do something in W. Carb.
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2323. bajelayman2 14:44 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
I like this link from RAMSDIS. It shows the front split as being rather negligble, the system looks centred around 13.3 N 52.O W.

It appears to be moving WNW.

Link
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2324. ackee 14:44 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
question do u guys think 91L/Emily could merge with the tropical wave ahead of it?
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2325. PcolaDan 14:44 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
@JimCantore
Jim Cantore
My friends in the Windward Islands are very aware what is coming at them. Still expecting #Emily sometime soon. Impacts unavoidable.
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2326. Chicklit 14:45 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
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2327. kmanhurricaneman 14:45 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting weatherguy03:
Invest 91L/TD #5 Morning Update July 31st. 2011
and just where did you get that 91L is a TD sir?
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2328. K8eCane 14:45 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting bajelayman2:
I like this link from RAMSDIS. It shows the front split as being rather negligble, the system looks centred around 13.3 N 52.O W.

It appears to be moving WNW.

Link
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2330. stormwatcherCI 14:45 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting superpete:
Thanks... Most likely when the NHC designates a TD/TS the models will then reflect any changes to track. I do agree it looks like generally a trend more to the west this morning though?
It does.
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2331. Slamguitar 14:45 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Must occupy self until recon shows up... Hmm..
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2332. ackee 14:46 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting java162:
the nhc is getting me angry... if this system was in the gulf it would have been a depression or ts since yesterday morning... i dont see the point of these double standards
agree
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2333. Vincent4989 14:46 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting ackee:
question do u guys think 91L/Emily could merge with the tropical wave ahead of it?

That wave split from the invest so, unlikely, but possible.
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2334. HimacaneBrees 14:47 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
The blog has hit Hyper drive.
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2335. aasmith26 14:47 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Hey Folks! Great to be back this year! With the way we're starting out hurricane season we could definitely have a year like the 2005 season―and we're at the 6 year rotation for names! Ain't that something! (minus Katrina O.o) Good to be back and seeing everyone again!
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2337. kmanhurricaneman 14:48 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
such anger on this blogg.
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2338. IpswichWeatherCenter 14:48 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting nrtiwlnvragn:
ASCAT just missed




That swath, does convince me slightly more, although I would put money on the SW side being open slightly.
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2339. Vincent4989 14:48 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting troy1993:
jason would you please shut up and stop with the ridiculous trolling..if you dont have any intelligent reasons to back up your statement then dont bother posting anything at all...the purpose of this blog is to have intelligent structured discussions not to listen to childish stupidity.

He has trollish behavior but thhat's because he's obsessed in observing waves. So don't blame him for trollish behavior.
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2340. weatherguy03 14:49 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting kmanhurricaneman:
and just where did you get that 91L is a TD sir?


Its not official obviously, but it will be once recon get out there. Just covering all the bases!:-)
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2341. nofailsafe 14:49 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting IpswichWeatherCenter:


That swath, does convince me slightly more, although I would put money on the SW side being open slightly.


As of the last couple of TPW frames, there is a dry notch on the southwest side of the storm that hasn't closed off yet.
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2342. stoormfury 14:49 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
The islands are in for a doublr wammy, the robust tropical wave in front of 91L and 91L itself. a lot of unwanted rain for the islabds, ground have been saturated with previous rainfall, especially islands from Saint Vincent to Dominica
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2343. kmanhurricaneman 14:50 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting Vincent4989:

He has trollish behavior but thhat's because he's obsessed in observing waves. So don't blame him for trollish behavior.
ouch snap -crackle -pop !!!!
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2344. SLU 14:51 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
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2345. caneswatch 14:51 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting lucreto:
People in the United States probably should not really worry about this system too much, as the LSM and LIGSM are both showing recurvature at this point with only ~ 15% chance of anywhere in the United States receiving tropical storm force winds. Puerto Rico and the lesser antilles should be prepared, however.


And just because they're showing it means you automatically believe it?
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2346. Neapolitan 14:51 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting lucreto:


The Leplacian Synoptic Model, and the slightly more complex Laplacian Interpolated Gridded Synoptic Model. Both can not be linked because they are purely experimental here in Fort Collins Colorado. But, do not be surprised to see them in the official suite in 2-3 years.

Is it "Laplacian" or "Leplacian"? And without divulging any trade secrets, can you kindly explain in brief how each of them are initialized, which data set(s) they use for input, any special parameters they require, any academic papers that have been written about them, etc.? Just curious... I've no reason to doubt you, but the other tropical forecast models have taken years to develop, and they're still being tweaked, so it's hard to imagine how a model that is so experimental that is has absolutely no presence on the internet could possibly be operational in just two or three years. The HWRF took five years to get to that point, and I was under the impression that was PDQ...

TIA.
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2347. BrandiQ 14:51 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting aasmith26:
Hey Folks! Great to be back this year! With the way we're starting out hurricane season we could definitely have a year like the 2005 season―and we're at the 6 year rotation for names! Ain't that something! (minus Katrina O.o) Good to be back and seeing everyone again!


More like minus Dennis, Katrina, Rita, Stan, and Wilma... It should be an interesting season indeed!
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2348. chevycanes 14:51 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting java162:
the nhc is getting me angry... if this system was in the gulf it would have been a depression or ts since yesterday morning... i dont see the point of these double standards

maybe, just maybe the NHC knows more than you?
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2349. IpswichWeatherCenter 14:51 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting Melagoo:


looks like another big wave ...


Forgive me, if I sound like Jason, but the wave that split off from 91L, looks like it could form into a tropical storm, perhaps recon will have a fish inside that as well.

Also, that wave looks pretty impressive for something that just made the jump to water.
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2350. weatherguy03 14:52 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting weatherguy03:


Its not official obviously, but it will be once recon get out there. Just covering all the bases!:-)


The elongated nature and the wave axis running out ahead of the COC thru a wrench in officially naming this system this morning I believe by the NHC. But for the sake of warning the Islands they should of put a TD status on it this morning, but I guess they want to make sure and wait until recon is out in it.
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2351. Chicklit 14:53 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
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