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Not a trace of Don; What's next?
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 19:41 GMT le 30 juillet 2011 +33
Don is dead

Tropical Storm Don, the fourth named storm of the 2011 season, made landfall near Baffin Bay, Texas yesterday evening around 10pm CDT in less-than-grand fashion. The storm was looking very weak for the 24 hours before landfall, but fizzled rapidly after landfall, and by early Saturday morning, there was barely a trace of the storm to show that it even existed in the first place.

NHC Hurricane Specialist Eric Blake probably said it best in this mornings 5am EDT discussion on the storm:

THE DON IS DEAD. THE CYCLONE LITERALLY EVAPORATED OVER TEXAS ABOUT
AS FAST AS I HAVE EVER SEEN WITHOUT MOUNTAINS INVOLVED. DON HAS NO
CONVECTION...MEAGER RAINFALL...AND ONLY A SLIGHT SIGNATURE IN
SURFACE OBSERVATIONS AND RADAR DATA. THEREFORE...THIS IS THE LAST
ADVISORY ON THIS SYSTEM.


Figure 1. Total precipitation accumulation for the storm, estimated by radar.

The heaviest rainfall was falling south of the storm's center yesterday, so it wasn't surprising that Brownsville saw the most rain, 0.63 inches. KBRO also recorded 18 mph wind gusts. But to the north of the center, where many of the media were located, not a drop of rain fell. Corpus Christi saw zero inches of rain, but did record gale-force wind gusts (39 mph). Harlingen, near Baffin Bay, and close to where the center made landfall, saw 0.20 inches of rain and 18 mph wind gusts. This storm did very, very little to relieve any drought conditions in Southern Texas. And so it continues.

What's next: Invest 91L continues to impress

Invest 91L, which is located near 12°N 48°W in the central Atlantic, continues to impress today, and has shown signs of more organization over the past 24 hours. 91L will probably develop into a tropical cyclone before it reaches the Lesser Antilles, so residents of these islands should remain watchful and prepared. Satellite loops show not only organized thunderstorm activity, but also the makings of a surface circulation. Something this wave has working against it right now is dry air—there's a large mass of Saharan air on the north and east sides of the system, which could at least prevent significant intensification. Also, University of Wisconsin CIMSS analysis shows some strong wind shear (30-40 knots) to the north of the wave. However, I don't expect this to prevent development of the wave. Wind shear out ahead of the system is relatively low (5-15 knots). Moisture is plenty high within the system, and sea surface temperatures are warm and toasty (28°C+) and will only get warmer as 91L moves west into the Caribbean.


Figure 2. Infrared satellite of invest 91L taken at 1:15pm EDT today.

Forecast for 91L
Most of the reliable forecast models (GFS, CMC, FIM, and the ECMWF) have come to agree that 91L will develop, however, they differ on how long-lived that will be. Some of the models are suggesting it will be a short-lived tropical cyclone, not making it out of the Caribbean alive, and some suggest that it will hold together and intensify as it moves north of the Caribbean islands. The forecast track for the system will most likely be to the northwest through the Caribbean, at which point it will take a northeast turn near the Bahamas, never reaching the U.S. coast. HWRF agrees with this track (and also brings the system to category 2 strength by August 3rd). However, there is still some uncertainty that the system could track west, south of the Caribbean islands, and potentially into the Gulf of Mexico. However, none of the models that suggest this solution actually show that the wave will be a tropical cyclone at that point.

The National Hurricane Center is giving this wave an 80% chance of developing into at least Tropical Depression Five over the next 48 hours. Chances are we will see Emily out of this system. A Hurricane Hunter mission is scheduled for tomorrow at 2pm EDT, but I wouldn't be totally surprised to see them call this system this evening, given the threat to the Lesser Antilles.

Watching a northwest Caribbean disturbance

A broad area of disturbed weather is producing some heavy thunderstorms in the northwest Caribbean, southeast of the Yucatan Peninsula. Little to no low-level circulation exists with this feature, and none of the models are picking up on it. The Hurricane Center has "blobbed" this item (as I like to say) with a "near 0%" chance of developing over the next 48 hours. This disturbance could cause major flooding in the region given the amount of thunderstorm activity, and predictability for systems like this (potential Bay of Cempeche tropical cyclones) is very low. Models have a short lead time on development, and they spin up very fast once they enter the Bay of Campeche given the favorable topography of the land surrounding it. The difference between this system, though, and one like Arlene, is that there is very, very little low level circulation already present. Pre-Arlene was a bit more organized before it crossed the Yucatan, and so it's hard to imagine that this disturbance will be able to hold together, should it get that far.

If 91L develops, I'll be back tomorrow with a post.

Angela
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3701. GHOSTY1 20:25 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting washingtonian115:
I'll clear it up.I'm going to be honest.I gave Don a small chance of becoming a minimal hurricane.That's only because at the time the models were forecasting a favorable environment.But as condition continued to be unfavorable I dismissed it.


Im not gonna lie i said it was goin to become a hurricane till just before landfall and i was wrong and i was also pretty far to the north of landfall too but you can't be correct everytime
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3702. GHOSTY1 20:26 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
im leaving and be back later.
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3703. PrivateIdaho 20:26 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting washingtonian115:
I'm 41.And I still eat fruit-by-the-foot.And gushers.Lol.


pudding cups.
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3704. Cotillion 20:26 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting tiggeriffic:
wow...91L is pulling a Don according to the blog... it is weakening while it is getting more organized, not gonna be a threat to land but be a major cane when it does hit land, closed center of convection yet it is open, moving due west while it is curving out to sea in a backward motion...did i miss anything?

I realize everyone has an opinion...but this is beyond fatuous....


You missed the part where everyone does the Hokey-Pokey... ;)
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3706. HurricaneDean07 20:27 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Yonzabam, they arent 200 miles north, not even 75 miles north, thats about right where the models have it to start...
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3707. Levi32 20:27 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting Fujiwara:


Levi,

I really enjoy watching these tropical tidbits of yours. You have an amazing ability to explain various scenarios which may pan out, and you just make things easier to grasp. Thank You


Thanks. I appreciate it.
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3708. MiamiHurricanes09 20:27 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
0z models going to have any data input from any of the aircraft's sampling the environment?
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3709. washingtonian115 20:27 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting GHOSTY1:


Im not gonna lie i said it was goin to become a hurricane till just before landfall and i was wrong and i was also pretty far to the north of landfall too but you can't be correct everytime
No human mind is perfect.Back while making my hurricane statement I never mocked the NHC.
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3711. farhaonhebrew 20:27 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Puerto Rico Emergency Manager Agency press conference started..http://www.tvgratisya.com/ver-tutv-puerto -rico-tv-en-vivo/
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3712. tiggeriffic 20:27 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting Cotillion:


You missed the part where everyone does the Hokey-Pokey... ;)


dang...was hoping for the macarana....
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3713. Matt1989 20:27 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Hmm I do remember saying a couple days ago this one would be one bermuda would have to watch. And look at the models. The one behind will follow suite probably. Looking at how far east the bermuda high is this year. Any cape verde storms are going out to sea not effecting the US IMO.
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3714. Levi32 20:28 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
This vorticity map shows clearly the elongated area of cyclonic turning with the two embedded low centers, and then the finger of vorticity extending up the tropical wave axis northwest of the system.

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3715. NICycloneChaser 20:29 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting washingtonian115:
No human mind is perfect.Back while making my hurricane statement I never mocked the NHC.


You know, the NHC actually had it forecast to reach 65mph 12 hours before landfall, and mentioned that it may strengthen further before landfall, so they probably had it coming close to hurricane status anyway.
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3716. CosmicEvents 20:29 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting reedzone:


This is EXACTLY what what I'm thinking in terms of track.. The trough just won't be as strong as the GFS says and all of the Southeast Coast of the USA and Bahamas must closely watch this storm.
Where's landfall on the 18z Bam suite?
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3717. washingtonian115 20:30 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting PrivateIdaho:


pudding cups.
I am currently ROTFLMAO.I've always hated pudding as a kid and adult.
Quoting Matt1989:
Hmm I do remember saying a couple days ago this one would be one bermuda would have to watch. And look at the models. The one behind will follow suite probably. Looking at how far east the bermuda high is this year. Any cape verde storms are going out to sea not effecting the US IMO.
To me it looked as though the high was stronger and more west this year compared to last year....
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3719. jonelu 20:30 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting reedzone:


This is EXACTLY what what I'm thinking in terms of track.. The trough just won't be as strong as the GFS says and all of the Southeast Coast of the USA and Bahamas must closely watch this storm.

But is it safe to say that if it continues to the west its because its a weaker system and therefore if it does track north over CONUS its unlikely to be a strong system?
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3720. JrWeathermanFL 20:30 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Is their any recent HH data?
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3721. HurricaneDean07 20:30 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
WOW, was on blog page 34, and now on page 75...
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3722. blueafuze 20:31 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Once they locate the COC, and upgrade her, theses models are going to shift in a crazy way. Shes maintained a west track long enough to throw these computer models for a loop. Cant wait to see the next computer models. We could see a 1000 mile shift west at this point.
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3723. IceCoast 20:31 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting NICycloneChaser:


You know, the NHC actually had it forecast to reach 65mph 12 hours before landfall, and mentioned that it may strengthen further before landfall, so they probably had it coming close to hurricane status anyway.


I was about to mention that. I forecasted a 70mph tropical storm upon landfall, and obviously that busted. I don't think anyone could've forecasted Don going poof like that.
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3724. yonzabam 20:32 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting HurricaneDean07:
Yonzabam, they arent 200 miles north, not even 75 miles north, thats about right where the models have it to start...


Take another look. 91L is about 13.5 N. The tracks are roughly 17 N, with some further north.


http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/catl/vis-l.jpg
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3725. washingtonian115 20:32 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting NICycloneChaser:


You know, the NHC actually had it forecast to reach 65mph 12 hours before landfall, and mentioned that it may strengthen further before landfall, so they probably had it coming close to hurricane status anyway.
If memory serves me correctly(I mean it should I'm not that old).They gave Don a 12% chance.
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3726. ncstorm 20:32 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
West..

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3727. NICycloneChaser 20:32 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting IceCoast:


I was about to mention that. I forecasted a 70mph tropical storm upon landfall, and obviously that busted. I don't think anyone could've forecasted Don going poof like that.


There was some feeling that Don would struggle to get beyond a weak/moderate TS, but the way it struggled up to landfall and then vanished wasn't forseen by too many, I don't think.
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3728. HurricaneHunterJoe 20:33 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Product: Air Force Tropical RECCO Message (URNT11 KNHC)
Transmitted: 31st day of the month at 17:39Z
Aircraft: Air Force Aircraft (Last 3 digits of the tail number are 304)
Mission Purpose: Investigate fourth suspect area (flight in the North Atlantic basin)
Mission Number: 1
Observation Number: 05

Mandatory Data...

Observation Time: Sunday, 17:33Z
Radar Capability: Yes
Aircraft Altitude: Below 10,000 meters
Coordinates: 14.2N 55.4W
Location: 293 miles (472 km) to the ENE (75°) from Bridgetown, Barbados.
Turbulence: None
Conditions Along Flight Route: In the clear
Pressure Altitude: 300 meters
Flight Level Wind: From 110° at 16 knots (From the ESE at ~ 18.4 mph)
- The above is a spot wind.
- Winds were obtained using doppler radar or inertial systems.
Flight Level Temperature: 23°C
Flight Level Dew Point: 14°C
Weather (within 30 nautical miles): Thunderstorm(s)
Mean Sea Level Pressure (MSLP): 1012 mb (extrapolated)

Optional Data...

Estimated Surface Wind: From 80° at 25 knots (From the E at ~ 28.7 mph)
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3729. IceCoast 20:33 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting washingtonian115:
If memory serves me correctly(I mean it should I'm not that old).They gave Don a 12% chance.


I believe it was 21% if my memory serves me correctly :)
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3730. Autistic2 20:33 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
I just watched the video Levi32 put up. It was wonderful and I understood. Thank you! will you be doing another one in a day or two?
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3731. washingtonian115 20:33 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting IceCoast:


I was about to mention that. I forecasted a 70mph tropical storm upon landfall, and obviously that busted. I don't think anyone could've forecasted Don going poof like that.
That high pressure system just wasn't going to allow Don to steal the show away from it.
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3732. NICycloneChaser 20:33 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting washingtonian115:
If memory serves me correctly(I mean it should I'm not that old).They gave Don a 12% chance.


I think at one stage it got to 18% or something around that, though I may be wrong.
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3733. Levi32 20:34 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting Autistic2:
I just watched the video Levi32 put up. It was wonderful and I understood. Thank you! will you be doing another one in a day or two?


I usually make one every day when the tropics are active.
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3734. HurricaneDean07 20:34 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Jrweatherman, Recon FROZEN, no data input in more than an hour...
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3735. JrWeathermanFL 20:34 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting washingtonian115:
If memory serves me correctly(I mean it should I'm not that old).They gave Don a 12% chance.

12% chance yes. They gave her a peak of 60mph 12 hrs before landfall. Not 65mph.
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3736. SLU 20:34 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
The buoy at 14.6n 56.2w now reporting ESE winds. There's a lot of uncertainty here.
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3737. IceCoast 20:34 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting NICycloneChaser:


There was some feeling that Don would struggle to get beyond a weak/moderate TS, but the way it struggled up to landfall and then vanished wasn't forseen by too many, I don't think.


Yup, I'll give credit where it's due and say Levi did a good job forecasting Don. Said it would be 50mph at landfall and it was. Although technically speaking, there's now way it was a TS at landfall.
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3739. SLU 20:36 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting SLU:
The buoy at 14.6n 56.2w now reporting ESE winds. There's a lot of uncertainty here.


Meanwhile south winds continue at 14.5n 53w.
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3740. HurricaneDean07 20:36 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Washingtonian, Icecoast, let a younger memory kick in, and Washintonian was right it was 12% given by the NHC for hurricane status on DON
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3741. JrWeathermanFL 20:36 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting HurricaneDean07:
Jrweatherman, Recon FROZEN, no data input in more than an hour...

Is that bad?
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3742. chevycanes 20:36 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting yonzabam:


Take another look. 91L is about 13.5 N. The tracks are roughly 17 N, with some further north.


http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/catl/vis-l.jpg

no they aren't.

all the models initialize the low around 13N.
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3743. washingtonian115 20:37 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting ncstorm:
West..

Well what do you know?.That didn't come as a surprise to me at all.The models did this last year with Earl.They forecasted that he would turn north quickly.Instead he went further west and came close to the U.S.Remember guys.Sometimes the GFS over does trofs.
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3744. NICycloneChaser 20:37 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting JrWeathermanFL:

12% chance yes. They gave her a peak of 60mph 12 hrs before landfall. Not 65mph.


At the first and second advisories on Don, they had him at 65mph after 48 hours.

Link
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3745. HimacaneBrees 20:37 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Where is 91L located now in relation to where the models first forecast it to be? Is it in the area, or has it tracked further west than originally thought? TIA for any answers.
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3746. HurricaneDean07 20:39 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Jrweatherman,
If you want to know if they think it is a TC or not then YES
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3747. JrWeathermanFL 20:39 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting NICycloneChaser:


At the first and second advisories on Don, they had him at 65mph after 48 hours.

Link

I said 12 hrs before landfall. Not 48hrs after formation.
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3748. washingtonian115 20:39 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting JrWeathermanFL:

12% chance yes. They gave her a peak of 60mph 12 hrs before landfall. Not 65mph.
Quoting NICycloneChaser:


I think at one stage it got to 18% or something around that, though I may be wrong.
Quoting HurricaneDean07:
Washingtonian, Icecoast, let a younger memory kick in, and Washintonian was right it was 12% given by the NHC for hurricane status on DON
I guess everybody didn't know that Don would go "poof" like that.It was a small system leading the dry air to it's miserable demise.
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3749. HurricaneDean07 20:39 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Be back later
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3750. Seastep 20:39 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
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3751. ncstorm 20:39 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
The GFS ensemble members are mostly to the east of the track..

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