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Not a trace of Don; What's next?
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 19:41 GMT le 30 juillet 2011 +33
Don is dead

Tropical Storm Don, the fourth named storm of the 2011 season, made landfall near Baffin Bay, Texas yesterday evening around 10pm CDT in less-than-grand fashion. The storm was looking very weak for the 24 hours before landfall, but fizzled rapidly after landfall, and by early Saturday morning, there was barely a trace of the storm to show that it even existed in the first place.

NHC Hurricane Specialist Eric Blake probably said it best in this mornings 5am EDT discussion on the storm:

THE DON IS DEAD. THE CYCLONE LITERALLY EVAPORATED OVER TEXAS ABOUT
AS FAST AS I HAVE EVER SEEN WITHOUT MOUNTAINS INVOLVED. DON HAS NO
CONVECTION...MEAGER RAINFALL...AND ONLY A SLIGHT SIGNATURE IN
SURFACE OBSERVATIONS AND RADAR DATA. THEREFORE...THIS IS THE LAST
ADVISORY ON THIS SYSTEM.


Figure 1. Total precipitation accumulation for the storm, estimated by radar.

The heaviest rainfall was falling south of the storm's center yesterday, so it wasn't surprising that Brownsville saw the most rain, 0.63 inches. KBRO also recorded 18 mph wind gusts. But to the north of the center, where many of the media were located, not a drop of rain fell. Corpus Christi saw zero inches of rain, but did record gale-force wind gusts (39 mph). Harlingen, near Baffin Bay, and close to where the center made landfall, saw 0.20 inches of rain and 18 mph wind gusts. This storm did very, very little to relieve any drought conditions in Southern Texas. And so it continues.

What's next: Invest 91L continues to impress

Invest 91L, which is located near 12°N 48°W in the central Atlantic, continues to impress today, and has shown signs of more organization over the past 24 hours. 91L will probably develop into a tropical cyclone before it reaches the Lesser Antilles, so residents of these islands should remain watchful and prepared. Satellite loops show not only organized thunderstorm activity, but also the makings of a surface circulation. Something this wave has working against it right now is dry air—there's a large mass of Saharan air on the north and east sides of the system, which could at least prevent significant intensification. Also, University of Wisconsin CIMSS analysis shows some strong wind shear (30-40 knots) to the north of the wave. However, I don't expect this to prevent development of the wave. Wind shear out ahead of the system is relatively low (5-15 knots). Moisture is plenty high within the system, and sea surface temperatures are warm and toasty (28°C+) and will only get warmer as 91L moves west into the Caribbean.


Figure 2. Infrared satellite of invest 91L taken at 1:15pm EDT today.

Forecast for 91L
Most of the reliable forecast models (GFS, CMC, FIM, and the ECMWF) have come to agree that 91L will develop, however, they differ on how long-lived that will be. Some of the models are suggesting it will be a short-lived tropical cyclone, not making it out of the Caribbean alive, and some suggest that it will hold together and intensify as it moves north of the Caribbean islands. The forecast track for the system will most likely be to the northwest through the Caribbean, at which point it will take a northeast turn near the Bahamas, never reaching the U.S. coast. HWRF agrees with this track (and also brings the system to category 2 strength by August 3rd). However, there is still some uncertainty that the system could track west, south of the Caribbean islands, and potentially into the Gulf of Mexico. However, none of the models that suggest this solution actually show that the wave will be a tropical cyclone at that point.

The National Hurricane Center is giving this wave an 80% chance of developing into at least Tropical Depression Five over the next 48 hours. Chances are we will see Emily out of this system. A Hurricane Hunter mission is scheduled for tomorrow at 2pm EDT, but I wouldn't be totally surprised to see them call this system this evening, given the threat to the Lesser Antilles.

Watching a northwest Caribbean disturbance

A broad area of disturbed weather is producing some heavy thunderstorms in the northwest Caribbean, southeast of the Yucatan Peninsula. Little to no low-level circulation exists with this feature, and none of the models are picking up on it. The Hurricane Center has "blobbed" this item (as I like to say) with a "near 0%" chance of developing over the next 48 hours. This disturbance could cause major flooding in the region given the amount of thunderstorm activity, and predictability for systems like this (potential Bay of Cempeche tropical cyclones) is very low. Models have a short lead time on development, and they spin up very fast once they enter the Bay of Campeche given the favorable topography of the land surrounding it. The difference between this system, though, and one like Arlene, is that there is very, very little low level circulation already present. Pre-Arlene was a bit more organized before it crossed the Yucatan, and so it's hard to imagine that this disturbance will be able to hold together, should it get that far.

If 91L develops, I'll be back tomorrow with a post.

Angela
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4001. BahaHurican 21:56 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting washingtonian115:
Damn I wish i had a year-round mango tree.Anywho Baha I hope you have your plans in place along with your kit.
Yep... my biggest concern right now is that I can't run an A/C unit off of battery backup.... lol

Dreading the thought of no A/C for days on end.... and possibly another TC on top of the first one if patterns hold out the way they have in the past...
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4002. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 21:56 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
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4003. sarahjola 21:58 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
both systems seem to be moving more west than wnw for sure. have the hh put out any info on 91l from earlier? i have been off for a couple hours and last i saw hh were not puttin out any info. i think i see some tighter spin around 53w 14n. and also think i see something at about 60w 14n. i am sure i am probably very wrong so please feel free to school me:) i'll thank you for it.
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4004. MeterologyStudent56 21:59 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Doubt this will affect Florida...

"An Hebert Box (pronounced AY-bear, also known as Hebert's Box) is one of two regions of the tropical Atlantic Ocean that are useful as predictors of hurricanes that will strike South Florida, USA. They are named for former National Weather Service and National Hurricane Center forecaster Paul Hebert, who observed in the late 1970s that most strong hurricanes (characterized as those with winds exceeding 110 miles per hour (177 km/h)) which had struck South Florida since 1900 had also passed through one of these two small 335-mile-by-335-mile (517-km-by-517-km) square geographic regions.[1]

Examples include unnamed hurricanes in 1926, 1928, 1933, and 1935, as well as the major hurricanes Donna and Betsy, all of which came through a Hebert Box. Collectively these storms killed more than 2,000 people in Florida. Conversely, storms such as the major hurricanes Floyd and Gert in 1999, which both were headed for Florida at one point, missed the Hebert Boxes and turned away from Florida at the last minute.[1]"

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4005. SavannahStorm 21:59 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    


One little isolated cell to my NW putting out some wicked winds at the airport:


07/31/2011 0547 PM

Savannah Airport, Chatham County.

Thunderstorm wind gust m70 mph, reported by ASOS.


A 70 mph gust was reported at Savannah International
Airport.





07/31/2011 0538 PM

Savannah Airport, Chatham County.

Thunderstorm wind gust m64 mph, reported by ASOS.


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4006. MississippiWx 21:59 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting sarahjola:
both systems seem to be moving more west than wnw for sure. have the hh put out any info on 91l from earlier? i have been off for a couple hours and last i saw hh were not puttin out any info. i think i see some tighter spin around 53w 14n. and also think i see something at about 60w 14n. i am sure i am probably very wrong so please feel free to school me:) i'll thank you for it.


I'm not sure about the data...I am pretty sure they put the data into the 00z runs.
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4007. sunlinepr 22:00 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
NAM has been more accurate with Don and with 91L track than GFS... Is that the usual?

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4008. beell 22:00 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
"Gonzo" confirming dry air in the mid-level environment of 91L. Most of them look similar to this one.

Dropsonde Observation Number: 12

Splash Location: 16.99N 57.56W
Splash Time: 21:28Z

click to enlarge

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4009. bajelayman2 22:01 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:


That still shows it curving upwards a bit earlier than is loooking now.....the longer it takes to pull together, the more likely we have a Caribbean Sea strom to Jamaica et al....
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4010. scott39 22:01 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Westward!
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4011. Levi32 22:03 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting beell:
"Gonzo" confirming dry air in the mid-level environment of 91L. Most of them look similar to this one.

Dropsonde Observation Number: 12

Splash Location: 16.99N 57.56W
Splash Time: 21:28Z

click to enlarge



I haven't seen those before. Where did you get dropsonde sounding maps?
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4012. sunlinepr 22:03 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
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4013. MiamiHurricanes09 22:03 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Starts to intensify in about 60 hours, could be Emily at this point. Prior to this, the system is pretty weak (could either be an invest, or tropical depression).

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4014. washingtonian115 22:03 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting BahaHurican:
Yep... my biggest concern right now is that I can't run an A/C unit off of battery backup.... lol

Dreading the thought of no A/C for days on end.... and possibly another TC on top of the first one if patterns hold out the way they have in the past...
I couldn't go without A/C in hot weather for days.I don't know if I'll make it.Remember to always have a plan in place and listen to the officials.
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4015. CosmicEvents 22:04 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Sweet Mangos!
We need a new blog if you get a chance Angela.
.
.
But, now that you mention it, the peaches have been great this year from Georgia and especially South Carolina. We've talked on the blog before about a relationship between animals and cyclones. How about fruit and cyclones?
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4016. hunkerdown 22:04 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting MeterologyStudent56:
Its going to go through the hebert box......
means nothing, statistic-wise, if it doesn't make landfall in Florida as a major...after all, the Hebert Box is just for statistics.
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4017. washingtonian115 22:04 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting scott39:
Westward!
Gustav part 2 is all I'm gonna say.
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4018. farhaonhebrew 22:04 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
hot towers every where.... visible satellite
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4019. ncstorm 22:05 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
18Z GFS running now
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4020. tropicfreak 22:05 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Could this pull another Floyd?

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4022. hunkerdown 22:06 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting MeterologyStudent56:
Doubt this will affect Florida...

"An Hebert Box (pronounced AY-bear, also known as Hebert's Box) is one of two regions of the tropical Atlantic Ocean that are useful as predictors of hurricanes that will strike South Florida, USA. They are named for former National Weather Service and National Hurricane Center forecaster Paul Hebert, who observed in the late 1970s that most strong hurricanes (characterized as those with winds exceeding 110 miles per hour (177 km/h)) which had struck South Florida since 1900 had also passed through one of these two small 335-mile-by-335-mile (517-km-by-517-km) square geographic regions.[1]

Examples include unnamed hurricanes in 1926, 1928, 1933, and 1935, as well as the major hurricanes Donna and Betsy, all of which came through a Hebert Box. Collectively these storms killed more than 2,000 people in Florida. Conversely, storms such as the major hurricanes Floyd and Gert in 1999, which both were headed for Florida at one point, missed the Hebert Boxes and turned away from Florida at the last minute.[1]"

and the major, no pun intended, exception to the rule...Andrew
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4023. scott39 22:06 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
I made the comment yesterday that 91L would take its time to develope because of its size. I also stated that because of this it would go W into the Caribbean. I think sometimes we get so locked on to models, that we dont use our eyes and the experience that we have with a wave this size.
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4024. beell 22:06 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting Levi32:


I haven't seen those before. Where did you get dropsonde sounding maps?


If you're watching from Google earth, click on the dropsonde icon of interest...and wait untill you hear this-keep scrolling down.

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4025. CanesfanatUT 22:06 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting washingtonian115:
I couldn't go without A/C in hot weather for days.I don't know if I'll make it.Remember to always have a plan in place and listen to the officials.


If everything around you is without power - you deal with it or , well, leave. I didn't have power for like 4 days after Gustav and it is much more humid in south Looziana than up here.
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4026. hunkerdown 22:06 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting CosmicEvents:
Sweet Mangos!
We need a new blog if you get a chance Angela.
.
.
But, now that you mention it, the peaches have been great this year from Georgia and especially South Carolina. We've talked on the blog before about a relationship between animals and cyclones. How about fruit and cyclones?
fruit and rainfall, yes
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4027. PcolaDan 22:06 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Interesting, the original HH mission is no longer on the Google Earth list.

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4028. drs2008 22:06 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting bajelayman2:


That still shows it curving upwards a bit earlier than is loooking now.....the longer it takes to pull together, the more likely we have a Caribbean Sea strom to Jamaica et al....
More likely to put gom & fla at risk.
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4029. prweatherwatcher 22:06 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting MississippiWx:
Sure, it's the NAM, but I think it has a pretty good handle on the eventual track. The latest NAM brings in 91L/Emily on a more Southern track, most likely due to its slower development.

36hr:



By the end of the run, it has a fairly stout tropical cyclone, but still in the Caribbean. It's moving NW at the time, headed toward the DR. Also, the trof has started lifting out by then, and you can see the ridge building in from the east. I think this is a very possible scenario, given the fact that 91L is going to take a little longer to get its act together than a lot of the other models believe.

84hr:




The NAM is not good with TC...
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4030. Levi32 22:06 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting MississippiWx:


I'm not sure about the data...I am pretty sure they put the data into the 00z runs.


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4031. jonelu 22:07 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:

GFS should the one to watch as Keep has posted. Nogaps should be considered an outerly.
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4032. GainesvilleGator 22:07 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
It looks like the 91L Train will just have to wait a little bit longer to become Emily. I think this gets named before a debt agreement can be reached in Washington.
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4033. MiamiHurricanes09 22:08 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting Levi32:


I haven't seen those before. Where did you get dropsonde sounding maps?
http://tropicalatlantic.com/recon/

Scroll down to the bottom of the page after clicking on the dropsonde report.

Or, this, LOL:

Quoting beell:


If you're watching from Google earth, click on the dropsonde icon of interest...and wait untill you hear this-keep scrolling down.


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4034. Levi32 22:08 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting beell:


If you're watching from Google earth, click on the dropsonde icon of interest...and wait untill you hear this-keep scrolling down.



Well I can't get GE to play nice with the flash plugin in linux, but I see where it would be. Why I never thought to scroll down and see what else is there is beyond me....

Thanks for the enlightenment lol.
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4035. bajelayman2 22:09 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Track of Gilbert 1988....

Link
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4036. MississippiWx 22:09 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting prweatherwatcher:



The NAM is not good with TC...


I didn't see that it is, but I did say that it has a pretty good handle on what's happening.
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4037. hunkerdown 22:09 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting GainesvilleGator:
It looks like the 91L Train will just have to wait a little bit longer to become Emily. I think this gets named before a debt agreement can be reached in Washington.
now there is a poll topic...
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4038. PcolaDan 22:09 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting beell:
"Gonzo" confirming dry air in the mid-level environment of 91L. Most of them look similar to this one.

Dropsonde Observation Number: 12

Splash Location: 16.99N 57.56W
Splash Time: 21:28Z

click to enlarge



Gonzo is still north of 91L isn't it?
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4039. MeterologyStudent56 22:10 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting washingtonian115:
Gustav part 2 is all I'm gonna say.


(Rolls Eyes) Wishcasting
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4040. IceCoast 22:10 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
GFS 84 Hrs
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4041. beell 22:11 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting Levi32:


Well I can't get GE to play nice with the flash plugin in linux, but I see where it would be. Why I never thought to scroll down and see what else is there is beyond me....

Thanks for the enlightenment lol.


I have been aware of this for a few seasons but I had the same "why didn't I" moment at one point, lol.
YW for sure.
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4042. MiamiHurricanes09 22:11 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
90 hours; just north of eastern Dominican Republic moving towards the WNW.

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4043. Levi32 22:11 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
18z GFS (top) has invest 91L at literally the exact same location at 0z Thursday as the 12z run did (bottom).



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4044. scott39 22:11 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
90 hours; just north of eastern Haiti moving towards the WNW.

I dont like the look of that!
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4046. ncstorm 22:12 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting IceCoast:
GFS 84 Hrs


so we got Lesser Antilles and Puerto Rico getting tagged by 91L in the 18Z GFS..
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4047. washingtonian115 22:13 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting CanesfanatUT:


If everything around you is without power - you deal with it or , well, leave. I didn't have power for like 4 days after Gustav and it is much more humid in south Looziana than up here.
It can get really dangerous up here with that humidity.D.C was once a swamp.
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4048. drs2008 22:13 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
Yup, the 00z GFDL showed the same thing. The 12z NOGAPS and the 12z CMC both show a track very similar to what the GFDL and NAM show as well.

Very interested to see what the (18z) GFS shows with the data input from the aircraft's.
Perhaps a Gustav like situation
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4050. washingtonian115 22:14 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting MeterologyStudent56:


(Rolls Eyes) Wishcasting
No one is wishcasting.I'm just saying that the track sounds similar.
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4051. Seflhurricane 22:14 GMT le 31 juillet 2011    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
90 hours; just north of eastern Haiti moving towards the WNW.

Miami for some reason this looks like a hurricane floyd type situation in respects to track , what are the chances of that trof not being strong enough and 91L/Emily moving towards SE Florida
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