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Not a trace of Don; What's next?
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 19:41 GMT le 30 juillet 2011 +33
Don is dead

Tropical Storm Don, the fourth named storm of the 2011 season, made landfall near Baffin Bay, Texas yesterday evening around 10pm CDT in less-than-grand fashion. The storm was looking very weak for the 24 hours before landfall, but fizzled rapidly after landfall, and by early Saturday morning, there was barely a trace of the storm to show that it even existed in the first place.

NHC Hurricane Specialist Eric Blake probably said it best in this mornings 5am EDT discussion on the storm:

THE DON IS DEAD. THE CYCLONE LITERALLY EVAPORATED OVER TEXAS ABOUT
AS FAST AS I HAVE EVER SEEN WITHOUT MOUNTAINS INVOLVED. DON HAS NO
CONVECTION...MEAGER RAINFALL...AND ONLY A SLIGHT SIGNATURE IN
SURFACE OBSERVATIONS AND RADAR DATA. THEREFORE...THIS IS THE LAST
ADVISORY ON THIS SYSTEM.


Figure 1. Total precipitation accumulation for the storm, estimated by radar.

The heaviest rainfall was falling south of the storm's center yesterday, so it wasn't surprising that Brownsville saw the most rain, 0.63 inches. KBRO also recorded 18 mph wind gusts. But to the north of the center, where many of the media were located, not a drop of rain fell. Corpus Christi saw zero inches of rain, but did record gale-force wind gusts (39 mph). Harlingen, near Baffin Bay, and close to where the center made landfall, saw 0.20 inches of rain and 18 mph wind gusts. This storm did very, very little to relieve any drought conditions in Southern Texas. And so it continues.

What's next: Invest 91L continues to impress

Invest 91L, which is located near 12°N 48°W in the central Atlantic, continues to impress today, and has shown signs of more organization over the past 24 hours. 91L will probably develop into a tropical cyclone before it reaches the Lesser Antilles, so residents of these islands should remain watchful and prepared. Satellite loops show not only organized thunderstorm activity, but also the makings of a surface circulation. Something this wave has working against it right now is dry air—there's a large mass of Saharan air on the north and east sides of the system, which could at least prevent significant intensification. Also, University of Wisconsin CIMSS analysis shows some strong wind shear (30-40 knots) to the north of the wave. However, I don't expect this to prevent development of the wave. Wind shear out ahead of the system is relatively low (5-15 knots). Moisture is plenty high within the system, and sea surface temperatures are warm and toasty (28°C+) and will only get warmer as 91L moves west into the Caribbean.


Figure 2. Infrared satellite of invest 91L taken at 1:15pm EDT today.

Forecast for 91L
Most of the reliable forecast models (GFS, CMC, FIM, and the ECMWF) have come to agree that 91L will develop, however, they differ on how long-lived that will be. Some of the models are suggesting it will be a short-lived tropical cyclone, not making it out of the Caribbean alive, and some suggest that it will hold together and intensify as it moves north of the Caribbean islands. The forecast track for the system will most likely be to the northwest through the Caribbean, at which point it will take a northeast turn near the Bahamas, never reaching the U.S. coast. HWRF agrees with this track (and also brings the system to category 2 strength by August 3rd). However, there is still some uncertainty that the system could track west, south of the Caribbean islands, and potentially into the Gulf of Mexico. However, none of the models that suggest this solution actually show that the wave will be a tropical cyclone at that point.

The National Hurricane Center is giving this wave an 80% chance of developing into at least Tropical Depression Five over the next 48 hours. Chances are we will see Emily out of this system. A Hurricane Hunter mission is scheduled for tomorrow at 2pm EDT, but I wouldn't be totally surprised to see them call this system this evening, given the threat to the Lesser Antilles.

Watching a northwest Caribbean disturbance

A broad area of disturbed weather is producing some heavy thunderstorms in the northwest Caribbean, southeast of the Yucatan Peninsula. Little to no low-level circulation exists with this feature, and none of the models are picking up on it. The Hurricane Center has "blobbed" this item (as I like to say) with a "near 0%" chance of developing over the next 48 hours. This disturbance could cause major flooding in the region given the amount of thunderstorm activity, and predictability for systems like this (potential Bay of Cempeche tropical cyclones) is very low. Models have a short lead time on development, and they spin up very fast once they enter the Bay of Campeche given the favorable topography of the land surrounding it. The difference between this system, though, and one like Arlene, is that there is very, very little low level circulation already present. Pre-Arlene was a bit more organized before it crossed the Yucatan, and so it's hard to imagine that this disturbance will be able to hold together, should it get that far.

If 91L develops, I'll be back tomorrow with a post.

Angela
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401. bluenosedave 21:56 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting NOLALawyer:


The majority of the bloggers here are residents of the US.


Can you back this statement with statistics? If it is a majority, it's not a large one.
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402. weatherxtreme 21:57 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
I have to say I have learned a lot from this blog over the years. I started lurking here in 2004 and finally joined last year. We have some real knowledge flowing through here that is very useful, however we do also tend to have some that panic at the first wave off of Africa, and some calling storms out to sea without thinking of others besides the US which is thoughtless IMO. I know we used to have some doom and gloomers here too that have seemed to move on and along. The ignore button is a great feature for that problem. Just some thoughts.
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403. JupiterFL 21:57 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting seafarer459:


As A blog, used as much for educational purposes, as informational. A Nun, knuckle rapping, is not out of order. Do the feelings of the uninformed,take precedence over that of the dismissed?

Yes
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404. seflagamma 21:58 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting tiggeriffic:
Would love to know what happened to the "GROWN UPS" that were on here in the past...(tho some are still here)...the juvenile antics are becoming more prevelant and monotnous


Many of us are still around; we just don't hang out here often unless there is something to watch... and I now do more "lurking" than leaving comments.

Normally by this time of each summer I start putting the nonsense handles on my ignore list..
so I can come back and take a look around and make comments and chat with old friends.

Good to see you Tigger!

Gams
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405. sarahjola 21:59 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
how about we all grow up and if someone says something you don't like or agree with then just ignore them. we are all human and have a right to our own opinion. instead of bashing someone for their words or misconceptions why not just ignore and move on. if education and information is truly the reason to come to this site, then stop wasting time and space argueing over the things you disagree with. now i asked a question before and i guess i couldn't be answered because of the disagreeing. so much for education and information!
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406. JupiterFL 21:59 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting bluenosedave:


Can you back this statement with statistics? If it is a majority, it's not a large one.


77% are from the US. It's right on the blog statistics page.
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407. Hurricanes101 21:59 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting JRRP:

mid level low ?
i think the center is near 50w
Link


nothing that I am seeing shows a circulation at 50W
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408. thedawnawakening3 22:00 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
There is definitely something trying to develop near Grand Cayman Islands. Converging winds around this areas as well as clouds beginning to converge are showing signs of something developing in this region. Convection however remains disorganized.
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409. seflagamma 22:00 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
and for those of you posting here in 2004, you weren't.. Dr Master's first Weather Blog was April 2005.
The site was here and has been since 1995 but only the "photographers" had so called blogs.. you see their "anniversary dates" go back to 2001-2004... us "weather bloggers" started in April or summer months of 2005, we were the first year weather bloggers.



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410. txlori 22:01 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting cchsweatherman:


I'm only being responsible, reasonable, and objective in considering all options on the table and not putting all my faith into computer models that have switched ideas in the past few days back and forth. For you to declare that its final shows an obvious lack of maturity and rationale as well as arrogance.

Galveston here. I rarely post...just try to learn all that I can, but I have to say that when I see statements like this H-Emily, it takes me back to when Ike was still more than a week away from threatening the US and someone from this area asked the innocent question "is there any chance this could come to Galveston?". He/she got slammed with "wishcaster" comments and slapped them around with what the models said. The rest of the story is history. It's not "final" until it makes landfall. :)
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411. stormpetrol 22:01 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting XL:

Good evening to you.
Yes I have only just starting calling in to the blog. I'm sure my visits will become more frequent as the season progresses.


Looking at the weather stations here the majority are showing SSW , WSW, W, WNW winds, I think something might be starting to brew near us , we don't see those readings unless a Nor"wester or tropical system is forming in our area!
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412. TomTaylor 22:01 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting P451:
Sunrise to Sunset....

nice loop

can really see the multiple circulations on there, just like Levi was talking about in his vid this morning

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413. thedawnawakening3 22:02 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Large circulation of 91L is showing signs of tightening around 13-14n: 48-49w lat/lon. Convection is slowly organizing and outflow/upper level divergence is intensifying along with a large upper level anticyclone present. Low level convergence is intensifying admist strong convection developing and signs of a strengthening low level circulation present. TD5 within 12 hours appears quite probable.
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414. sarahjola 22:02 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting JupiterFL:


77% are from the US. It's right on the blog statistics page.
:)
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415. stormpetrol 22:03 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Look for that yellow circle in the Western Caribbean to increase in % at 7cst.
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416. JRRP 22:03 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
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417. CycloneUK 22:03 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Impressive

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418. nigel20 22:04 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Good evening everyone. 91l is looking pretty good.
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419. thedawnawakening3 22:04 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
LLC center at around 13.4n: 49.3w
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420. WatcherCI 22:05 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting thebandman:
Here we go again. If a storm isn't aiming right at the US then the only comments are, it's a fish storm. I thought the purpose of the blog was to learn and discuss tropical storms.
40 60. You have to pick and choose.
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421. HimacaneBrees 22:05 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Man it's neat to watch these storms develop. But also kind of scary when you watch one like 91L becoming what could possibly be a serious threat to quite a few people. I like to read all the observations and thoughts on what it will or won't or may do. Where it's headed and how strong. One thing I've learned though, neither humans nor computers have a definite grasp on what they (storms) will do exactly more than 24-36 hours out. Mother Nature is the boss and all we can do is try to keep up with her.
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422. Torgen 22:05 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting seflagamma:
and for those of you posting here in 2004, you weren't.. Dr Master's first Weather Blog was April 2005.
The site was here and has been since 1995 but only the "photographers" had so called blogs.. you see their "anniversary dates" go back to 2001-2004... us "weather bloggers" started in April or summer months of 2005, we were the first year weather bloggers.





Never said I was posting here in 2004, said I'd been reading since 2004. I was glued to this site as Charley came up the west coast of FL, since it was supposed to hit us, and saw it take that violent right turn into Ft Myers where friends were.
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423. stormwatcherCI 22:06 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting stormpetrol:
Look for that yellow circle in the Western Caribbean to increase in % at 7cst.
Wouldn't that be something if we got Emily here rather than from 91L. I know it won't happen but just saying.
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424. cchsweatherman 22:06 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting txlori:

Galveston here. I rarely post...just try to learn all that I can, but I have to say that when I see statements like this H-Emily, it takes me back to when Ike was still more than a week away from threatening the US and someone from this area asked the innocent question "is there any chance this could come to Galveston?". He/she got slammed with "wishcaster" comments and slapped them around with what the models said. The rest of the story is history. It's not "final" until it makes landfall. :)


Exactly. I sincerely hope that you made it out ok from Hurricane Ike.
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425. CothranRoss 22:06 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting txlori:

Galveston here. I rarely post...just try to learn all that I can, but I have to say that when I see statements like this H-Emily, it takes me back to when Ike was still more than a week away from threatening the US and someone from this area asked the innocent question "is there any chance this could come to Galveston?". He/she got slammed with "wishcaster" comments and slapped them around with what the models said. The rest of the story is history. It's not "final" until it makes landfall. :)


You are totally right. It aint over til it's over. Anything could happen, and that's why i'm really focusing on this system here in wilmington.
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426. washingtonian115 22:07 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting CycloneUK:
Impressive

Now that's what you call a burst of intensification!!!.Went from a 95mph hurricane to a dangerous cat 5.Their's something about those pinhole eyes that make storms go crazy.Small size eh?.
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427. farhaonhebrew 22:07 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
is the dominant low at 12n 48w?
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428. EYEStoSEA 22:08 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
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429. stormpetrol 22:08 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
I can't see most comments now and I can't get it to change to show all, anyone else experiencing this!?
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430. thedawnawakening3 22:08 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
LLC center at around 13.4n: 49.3w
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431. NICycloneChaser 22:09 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
The mid-level vorticity is staring to move more in line with the lower-level vorticity, suggesting mid-level shear has decreased somewhat. 91L becoming better organised, I suspect it is currently a TD, wouldn't be suprised to wake up to one.
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432. thedawnawakening3 22:09 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
LLC center at around 13.4n: 49.3w
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433. HadesGodWyvern 22:09 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Japan Meteorological Agency
Tropical Cyclone Advisory #48
TROPICAL STORM NOCK-TEN (T1108)
6:00 AM JST July 31 2011
==========================================

SUBJECT: Category One Typhoon Overland Laos

At 21:00 PM UTC, Tropical Storm Nock-Ten (994 hPa) located at 19.0N 103.7E has 10 minute sustained winds of 35 knots with gusts of 50 knots. The cyclone is reported as moving west at 10 knots

Dvorak Intensity: Overland

Gale Force Winds
================
180 NM from the center in east quadrant
70 NM from the center in west quadrant

Forecast and Intensity
========================
24 HRS: 19.1N 98.6E - Tropical Depression (Overland Thailand)
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434. washingtonian115 22:10 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting txlori:

Galveston here. I rarely post...just try to learn all that I can, but I have to say that when I see statements like this H-Emily, it takes me back to when Ike was still more than a week away from threatening the US and someone from this area asked the innocent question "is there any chance this could come to Galveston?". He/she got slammed with "wishcaster" comments and slapped them around with what the models said. The rest of the story is history. It's not "final" until it makes landfall. :)
This deserves a 10,000,000++.Nice post.Makes people think twice.I'm not setting no path in stone until everything comes clear about this storm.And even then I still wouldn't be to sure of myself of where pre Emily is going.
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435. stormpetrol 22:11 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting stormwatcherCI:
Wouldn't that be something if we got Emily here rather than from 91L. I know it won't happen but just saying.


Funny & true, but remember anything is possible!
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436. HarryMc 22:11 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting stormpetrol:
I can't see most comments now and I can't get it to change to show all, anyone else experiencing this!?


Had that late last week... with IE; thought ok I'll do Chrome, was OK; went back to IE and that was OK too. No clue of what had happened.
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437. bluenosedave 22:11 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting JupiterFL:


77% are from the US. It's right on the blog statistics page.


There's a statistics page? Bedarned. Didn't realise. In any case, I was thinking more in terms of the active posters rather than the overall membership.
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438. EYEStoSEA 22:11 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting stormpetrol:
I can't see most comments now and I can't get it to change to show all, anyone else experiencing this!?


Try signing off and back on....happened to me before :)
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439. TropicalAnalystwx13 22:11 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting stormpetrol:
I can't see most comments now and I can't get it to change to show all, anyone else experiencing this!?


Is it on "Show Average"? If so, and even if that is not the case, just go to where the URL is and remove the "&filter=XX" part of it.
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440. PlazaRed 22:11 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
I'd have made a guess that about 80% of blogers are in the US and they make about 95% of the comments!
I/We over in Europe really appreciate what some and sometimes most of you in the US have to say as we don't have anything like the excitement you have, most of the time over on our side of the Atlantic its very predictable and not much is dramatic, though we do have our moments.
I have learned 90% plus of what I know about weather from reading the comments on this blog, so thanks a lot! Plaza.
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441. stormwatcherCI 22:12 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting stormpetrol:
I can't see most comments now and I can't get it to change to show all, anyone else experiencing this!?
Come out of the blog and come back on. Should be ok.
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442. barbamz 22:12 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
There seems to be a buoy reading near/in the center of 91L with 1009mb. Look and click the button "buoy":
http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time
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443. washingtonian115 22:12 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting EYEStoSEA:
The models were developing a system off of the Yucatan while developing pre Emily as well at the same time.But it looks like the storm will move in land just i time for that to happen.
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444. TropicalAnalystwx13 22:13 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting stormpetrol:
Look for that yellow circle in the Western Caribbean to increase in % at 7cst.


Highly doubt it. Far too disorganized to warrant anything stronger than Near 0%. Also, it will be moving into Central America soon.
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445. MiamiHurricanes09 22:13 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Let's see how the tropical waves about to emerge off of the African coast fare. I believe the GFS develops one of them.

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447. washingtonian115 22:14 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting NICycloneChaser:
The mid-level vorticity is staring to move more in line with the lower-level vorticity, suggesting mid-level shear has decreased somewhat. 91L becoming better organised, I suspect it is currently a TD, wouldn't be suprised to wake up to one.
I say a T.D over night.Pre Emily is coming back for revenge.Seeing that no matter how hard she tried her name wasn't retired through out the years.She's back for revenge I tell ya!!!!!!
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448. EYEStoSEA 22:14 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
Quoting PlazaRed:
I'd have made a guess that about 80% of blogers are in the US and they make about 95% of the comments!
I/We over in Europe really appreciate what some and sometimes most of you in the US have to say as we don't have anything like the excitement you have, most of the time over on our side of the Atlantic its very predictable and not much is dramatic, though we do have our moments.
I have learned 90% plus of what I know about weather from reading the comments on this blog, so thanks a lot! Plaza.


Just a Hello to ya Plaza....:)
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449. heretolearninPR 22:15 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
As CCHS said a page or two back, the islands cannot handle much more rain right now.

For example, in Dominica there was a major dam that burst the other day causing what was described as an "ecological disaster". The early report that I read said that no one died from the disaster. Good news. Here is a link to a story about the dam burst and some pictures.

http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/dam-coll apses-in-dominica-many
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451. java162 22:15 GMT le 30 juillet 2011    
according to the gfs, by the time emily reaches the bahamas, there will be the "f" out in the mid atlantic.... so lots to keep an eye on in the coming days
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