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Tropical Storm Emily forms from Invest 91L
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 00:09 GMT le 02 août 2011 +13
Tropical Storm Emily formed this afternoon after investigation by the Hurricane Hunters. While dodging the Lesser Antilles islands, the Hunters managed to find a closed surface circulation. Emily is currently located near 15.2°N, 62.0°W, and has maximum sustained winds of 40 mph. Thunderstorm activity has grown in size and intensity over the past 6 hours, and mid-level circulation is still elongated, but strong. The environment around Emily hasn't changed much from this morning. The moisture within the storm is still relatively high, although there continues to be a lingering dry, Saharan air mass to its north, which could become a factor in intensification. Wind shear is still high (30-40 knots) on the north side, as well.


Figure 1. Visible satellite of Tropical Storm Emily at 7:30pm EDT as it moves west into the Caribbean.

Forecast For Emily
The official track forecast is that Emily will continue to travel west-northwest through the Caribbean and cross Hispaniola Wednesday morning, after which it turns slightly more to the north for a potential landfall along the Florida east coast as a hurricane. Models continue to be split between Emily entering the Gulf of Mexico or recurving before making landfall along the East Coast. In the camp of an eastern Gulf of Mexico track are the CMC, NOGAPS, and the UKMET models. The ECMWF has been trending that way, as well. The GFS continues to favor a northwest track towards Florida before taking a turn to the northeast. The HWRF has been forecasting an eastern coast of Florida solution, and continues to do so in the 12Z run. The GFDL remains conservative and forecasts that the system will turn north and northeast well before making any connection with the U.S. coast. It is notable that although there is still much disagreement on where this system will go, but the models have been trending west in their tracks over the past few days. As the official track forecast from the National Hurricane Center illustrates, this is a U.S. landfall threat.


Figure 2. Official five-day track forecast for Tropical Storm Emily.

The National Hurricane Center forecasts that Emily will probably strengthen into a hurricane. In the 12Z runs, the GFDL brings Emily up to category 2 strength, and HWRF forecasts it to max out at category 1. DSHIPS (the SHIPS model that takes into account land interaction) forecasts maximum intensity of a moderate tropical storm. General consensus continues to be that Emily will reach a peak intensity somewhere between a moderate tropical storm and a moderate category 1 hurricane. Now that Emily has developed, and when the models ingest some data from the Hurricane Hunter missions, we will have more certainty in an intensity forecast.

Dr. Rob Carver might have an update later this evening, and I'll definitely be back tomorrow, early afternoon, with a new post on Emily.

Angela
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401. wolftribe2009 01:40 GMT le 02 août 2011    
Quoting wunderkidcayman:

nope shes still moving west no WNW movement yet I don't think it will for a while maybe in about 36/48 hours


agreed! My "Red Alert" would highlight Eastern Cuba and the, Jamaica area. Any further east and it would only be a moderate risk to me. I keep thinking the most westward track of NOAA's cone is most likely.
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403. kmanislander 01:41 GMT le 02 août 2011    
Quoting Levi32:


Well it can really depend. There is no actual decoupling going on when the storm passes over 10000-ft mountains. The surface circulation simply disappears, and is forced to redevelop on the other side. That can sometimes be underneath the mid-level center or somewhere else. Also, weak storms have no major inner core to disrupt, and the amount of energy in the storm as a whole is small compared to a hurricane, so if it survives the passage at all, it has more potential to strengthen on the other side than if a hurricane had made the crossing.


6 of one and half a dozen of the other as we say in the Caribbean. Highly unlikely it remains intact as a TS crossing over Haiti which is what the guidance shows
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404. SETexas74 01:42 GMT le 02 août 2011    
The GFDL shows more west movement, and the cones always move. I'd be wary in any costal area at this point. But hopefully, Emily will turn out to sea
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405. Landfall2004 01:42 GMT le 02 août 2011    

Quoting hahaguy:
Emily loos like it might do a David type track,


Oh NO--not another one.  I remember David on Labor Day weekend 1979, was it?  Already been the BULLSEYE for Frances and Jeanne here at the St. Lucie inlet, and Wilma came in our back door 13 months later.  We have had enough.  Could use a little rain from a tropical storm, tho.
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406. RMM34667 01:42 GMT le 02 août 2011    
Just for accuracy.. The Model data that Jessica posted did say 91L, but the same are posted as Emily. And time stampsed 7pm Jessica did not post inaccurate information. It's right here on WU if anyone wanted to check: and they are WAY EAST of previous models

Link
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407. wolftribe2009 01:42 GMT le 02 août 2011    
Quoting cat5hurricane:

Yes, storm surges and flooding are major (potentially catastrophic) killers, not posting a map on a weather blog.


we all can remember TS Allison 1995. Weak storms can cause serious problems. Also TS Jeanne killed 1000 people as a weak storm.
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408. hcubed 01:43 GMT le 02 août 2011    
Quoting wakd3Xn04:
was planning to help my daughter move to Daytona this weekend. Might have to delay a week. No way I'm towing a U-Haul trailer behind my Rodeo up I-4 in a storm. It's bad enough when the weather is good. Will have to keep an eye on the forecast as we get closer to the weekend to see where this is really headed. A lot can change between now and then.


If you have mobile capabilities (wifi, etc), check into the Wundermap feature. One of the "overlays" is the Road Trip feature, allowing you to use the Google route feature, and display weather along the route.

Can give you a little "heads-up" as to where you may want to lay-over for awhile.
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411. TaylorSelseth 01:44 GMT le 02 août 2011    
Maybe Emily will recurve out to sea if Floridians sacrifice Governor Skeletor to the storm god.
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412. CaicosRetiredSailor 01:44 GMT le 02 août 2011    
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415. louisianaweatherguy 01:44 GMT le 02 août 2011    
Quoting Matt74:
Gee I wonder why?


LOL
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416. KoritheMan 01:45 GMT le 02 août 2011    
Quoting Kibkaos:
Okay I have been looking at Emily. I don't see this one going up toward the Carolinas. I know I am probably doing a little hopeful thinking over here in Brazoria County South East Texas. My question is who thinks this storm may come into the GOM? Looking forward to your answers.


It could still enter the Gulf of Mexico. It's not as if some of the models aren't predicting such. There's still a lot up in the air though, including how much troughing we actually get over the western Atlantic, and how strong Emily becomes.
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417. Levi32 01:45 GMT le 02 août 2011    
Quoting kmanislander:


6 of one and half a dozen of the other as we say in the Caribbean. Highly unlikely it remains intact as a TS crossing over Haiti which is what the guidance shows


Well not every storm is killed by Hispaniola. It may die, but a lot of them regenerate as well. The models are also not in agreement on Hispaniola destroying Emily. Many of them keep her intact, not that they're particularly good at predicting the behavior of storms that move over that island.
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418. WeafhermanNimmy 01:45 GMT le 02 août 2011    
I know Greensboro, NC is well inland. Should I be concerned since I am heading over there on Aug 8 2011?
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419. IceCoast 01:45 GMT le 02 août 2011    
Quoting Kibkaos:
Okay I have been looking at Emily. I don't see this one going up toward the Carolinas. I know I am probably doing a little hopeful thinking over here in Brazoria County South East Texas. My question is who thinks this storm may come into the GOM? Looking forward to your answers.


Even if it did somehow make it into the SE GOM, there is no way it's busting through that stubborn texas ridge.
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420. j2008 01:46 GMT le 02 août 2011    
Quoting SETexas74:
The GFDL shows more west movement, and the cones always move. I'd be wary in any costal area at this point. But hopefully, Emily will turn out to sea

At this time I think it is nearly impossible for Emily to go out to sea without hitting land.
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422. K8eCane 01:46 GMT le 02 août 2011    
So far none of the models have taken this entity( for lack of a better word) anywhere near Texas and they are the ones who would benefit from the rains
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423. GetReal 01:46 GMT le 02 août 2011    






The blocking high to the north of Hispaniola is clearly visible on the above WV loop. I would not be surprised if Emily remains on the more westerly track, and passes south of Hispaiola, and just north of Jamaica.
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424. weatherguy03 01:46 GMT le 02 août 2011    
Florida and also the rest of the East Coast will have a good idea by Weds whether they will be affected by Emily. If Emily starts making the turn and cross the Eastern D.R then you guys are out of the woods. If you see this storm moving South of the D.R and making the turn between Haiti and Cuba then you may have a storm on your hands.
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425. tiggeriffic 01:47 GMT le 02 août 2011    
Trying to lighten things up a bit since the tension is so high in here...how about if everyone from Florida to N. Carolina all get out our fans...face them all east and turn them on high...it may cause enough shear to tear it up or enuf wind to turn it back out to sea...with all the other things going on in here, lets face it...its right on track!
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426. DellOperator 01:47 GMT le 02 août 2011    
Lesser Antilles Radar Link


Link
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427. AtHomeInTX 01:47 GMT le 02 août 2011    
Quoting CaicosRetiredSailor:
From Dominica via StormCarib site:

....Amazingly the power held throughout the worst of it, which lasted a couple of hours at most, and�apart from a few flicks there were no surges either in the�current. Compliments to the electricity company -Domlec!
However, throughout the capital there was minor-moderate street flooding, but this has since subsided as the rains have mostly tapered off though at present a�light shower is now falling. Thankfully there were no strong wind gusts with these intense lines of thunderstorms/ thundershowers in Roseau, however, other parts of the island might be able to report differently.

*UPDATE - AS OF 7:30P.M. Tropical storm Emily has formed since the well defined circulation center finally formed near Dominica. We are MOST THANKFUL TO GOD for this LATE FORMATION OF EMILY since it meant we got the most weak 'version' of the storm so to speak. We may get some more moderate -heavy rain later but as for now its light rain in the south with no strong winds...no one is complaining! Most likely it may get a bit gusty later tonight but for now Emily has been a most proper Lady. May she�be ever so gentle to all in her future path...�
Let us all keep safe and sound during this Hurricane season!

http://stormcarib.com/reports/current/dominica.sh tml


Amen
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428. KoritheMan 01:48 GMT le 02 août 2011    
Quoting WeafhermanNimmy:
I know Greensboro, NC is well inland. Should I be concerned since I am heading over there on Aug 8 2011?


I doubt it makes it that far, but do keep in mind that there are sizable track errors at five days and beyond.
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429. hcubed 01:48 GMT le 02 août 2011    
Quoting Hurricanejer95:
273 and 275: Old model tracks


Jason doesn't like the new tracks, because they don't go out to sea.
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430. louisianaweatherguy 01:48 GMT le 02 août 2011    
So... is Emily still tracking more west than WNW? Because if that's the case these models will flip flop back to the west once again by morning time...

Mobile, AL to North Carolina is probably where I'd say the "bullseye" is now...
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431. TropicalAnalystwx13 01:48 GMT le 02 août 2011    
Quoting tiggeriffic:
Trying to lighten things up a bit since the tension is so high in here...how about if everyone from Florida to N. Carolina all get out our fans...face them all east and turn them on high...it may cause enough shear to tear it up or enuf wind to turn it back out to sea...with all the other things going on in here, lets face it...its right on track!


LOL!

+1
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432. weatherguy03 01:48 GMT le 02 août 2011    
Quoting K8eCane:
So far none of the models have taken this entity( for lack of a better word) anywhere near Texas and they are the ones who would benefit from the rains


Its basically impossible to get this too far into the GOM because High Pressure will be parked over the Western and Central GOM.
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433. Detrina 01:49 GMT le 02 août 2011    
Quoting tiggeriffic:
Trying to lighten things up a bit since the tension is so high in here...how about if everyone from Florida to N. Carolina all get out our fans...face them all east and turn them on high...it may cause enough shear to tear it up or enuf wind to turn it back out to sea...with all the other things going on in here, lets face it...its right on track!


I like that idea!!! I am a fan freak and have 7 of them, not counting the ceiling fans:)Extra Shear power!
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434. RescueAFR 01:49 GMT le 02 août 2011    
Interesting how the NHC has South Fla in the "cone" at 1900 hrs, yet when you look at the latest model runs and ensemble models all at 1900 hrs EST as well..none are bringing the cyclone to FLA at all?
435. Ryuujin 01:49 GMT le 02 août 2011    


I'm gonna get nailed for saying this but..

Emily is putting on a little weight!
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436. Landfall2004 01:49 GMT le 02 août 2011    

Quoting weatherguy03:
Florida and also the rest of the East Coast will have a good idea by Weds whether they will be affected by Emily. If Emily starts making the turn and cross the Eastern D.R then you guys are out of the woods. If you see this storm moving South of the D.R and making the turn between Haiti and Cuba then you may have a storm on your hands.
I agree---I always keep my eyes on the ones that sneak up thru Cuba!
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438. GetReal 01:50 GMT le 02 août 2011    

Steering Layer 400-850mb

Even if Emily was to rapidly strengthen into a minimal hurricane, it would be under a very similar steering pattern. IMO.
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439. LostTomorrows 01:50 GMT le 02 août 2011    
Emily looks like she might have what it takes to develop on her own terms, rather than be inhibited by wind shear and dry air when she's slowly seperating from the hostile environment.

I find storms like this - the ones that take so long to spin up because of certain environmental factors, as well as persist nthrough it all - wind up stronger for it in the long run. If she looks relatively impressive under high wind shear (she kind of looks like a fetus O_o), then she just might prove to be more dangerous than we think.

Who knows, I can't say I do - I'm moreso a lurker than anything else. Emily is the first storm to actually impress me this year... although Cindy did somewhat: I still think she may have briefly become a minimal hurricane, and the NHC missed it because she was too far north and east.
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440. ClearwaterRain 01:50 GMT le 02 août 2011    
I'm in tampa bay area, and i have my fingers crossed that if the cone is correct(i know thats rare lol) that it's nothing stronger than a cat 1 or 2. seen a few of those, and no real damage to speak of, so i kinda enjoyed them' :-)
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441. chevycanes 01:50 GMT le 02 août 2011    
Quoting weatherguy03:
Florida and also the rest of the East Coast will have a good idea by Weds whether they will be affected by Emily. If Emily starts making the turn and cross the Eastern D.R then you guys are out of the woods. If you see this storm moving South of the D.R and making the turn between Haiti and Cuba then you may have a storm on your hands.

i think you're right.
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442. wolftribe2009 01:51 GMT le 02 août 2011    
Emily's track will be NEAR or WEST of Barahona haiti. I don't think the storm is going to make landfall any further east than that. So if the storm makes landfall before reaching Cuba it will be on the western end near Barahona haiti
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443. weatherguy03 01:52 GMT le 02 août 2011    
Quoting GetReal:


Steering Layer 400-850mb

Even if Emily was to rapidly strengthen into a minimal hurricane, it would be under a very similar steering pattern.


Just remember that steering pattern is always evolving and changing.
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444. kmanislander 01:52 GMT le 02 août 2011    
Quoting Levi32:


Well not every storm is killed by Hispaniola. It may die, but a lot of them regenerate as well. The models are also not in agreement on Hispaniola destroying Emily. Many of them keep her intact, not that they're particularly good at predicting the behavior of storms that move over that island.


True, but the forecast shows a diagonal crossing over high terrain which implies a significant amount of time over hostile territory. If that track verifies I would not expect much of the system to emerge off the North Coast.
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445. violet312s 01:52 GMT le 02 août 2011    
Quoting tiggeriffic:
Trying to lighten things up a bit since the tension is so high in here...how about if everyone from Florida to N. Carolina all get out our fans...face them all east and turn them on high...it may cause enough shear to tear it up or enuf wind to turn it back out to sea...with all the other things going on in here, lets face it...its right on track!


LOL! Pointing my fans to the East here in NC. Darn, does that mean I have to open the window? Too hot here.
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447. GTcooliebai 01:53 GMT le 02 août 2011    
Quoting GetReal:






The blocking high to the north of Hispaniola is clearly visible on the above WV loop. I would not be surprised if Emily remains on the more westerly track, and passes south of Hispaiola, and just north of Jamaica.
Yep the map is pretty telling at the moment.
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448. WeafhermanNimmy 01:53 GMT le 02 août 2011    
Quoting KoritheMan:


I doubt it makes it that far, but do keep in mind that there are sizable track errors at five days and beyond.


What about rainfall potential? Could it stretch as far north in Greensboro, NC?
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449. tropicfreak 01:53 GMT le 02 août 2011    
Quoting Ryuujin:


I'm gonna get nailed for saying this but..

Emily is putting on a little weight!


Wow, the Antillies sure are getting pounded tonight.
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451. KoritheMan 01:54 GMT le 02 août 2011    
Quoting weatherguy03:


Its basically impossible to get this too far into the GOM because High Pressure will be parked over the Western and Central GOM.


I do agree with this for now. If it does enter the Gulf, if shouldn't make it any farther west than the central Florida panhandle.
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