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Emily slides west, still a threat for Hispaniola and Cuba
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 07:37 GMT le 04 août 2011 +13
As of 2AM EDT, Tropical Storm Emily was located at 17.1N, 71.3W, about 120 miles south-southeast of Port-au-Prince, Haiti. Emily was moving W at 5 mph with sustained winds of 50 mph. It's central pressure was estimated to be 1006 mb. Tropical storm warnings are in effect for the Dominican Republic, Haiti, the southeast and central Bahamas, the Turks and Caicos islands, and eastern Cuba.

Satellite imagery still shows that the majority of convection associated with Emily is east of the center of circulation.


Figure 1 IR Satellite image of TS Emily taken at 2AM EDT August 4, 2011

Emily and the Turn Northwards

According to the most recent forecast issued by NHC, Emily was forecast to be at 17.5N, 72.5W at 2AM EDT, which is a point 68 miles west-northwest of it's assigned location. This indicates that Emily is not curving northwards as expected. This makes me more skeptical of the computer model forecasts that pull Emily to the northwards sharply towards the southeast coast of Florida before recurving out to sea. All of the 00Z global models (NOGAPS, GFS, and CMC) are in rough agreement.

The forecast tracks provided by the suite of simpler models, the Beta and Advection Models and CLIPER, disagree. They have Emily taking a much more gradual turn to the north, thus moving northwest across Cuba. Given that these models have done a better job of predicting Emily's westwards track, I'm inclined to place more confidence in their predictions. However, the further west Emily goes, the chance that Emily makes landfall in Florida (due to a recurve) goes up. People with interests in Cuba and south Florida should keep an eye on this storm.

My opinion about forecasting Emily's intensity has not changed significantly from last evening's update. If Emily's circulation can survive the mountains of Hispaniola and/or the terrain of Cuba, conditions are favorable for moderate intensification.

The current NHC forecast is shown in Figure 2 and has Emily turning towards the north, passing through the western Bahamas before turning out to sea.

In terms of immediate impacts, 6-12 inches of rain are expected over Haiti, and the Dominican Republic, with 20 inches possible in isolated areas. Flash floods and landslides are expected to be major problems on Hispaniola. Tropical storm winds will reach Haiti today and could reach eastern Cuba later today. Port-au-Prince, Guantanamo and Santiago de Cuba would be good stations to monitor today.


Figure 2 Official five-day track forecast for Tropical Storm Emily.

Eastern Pacific

Eugene reached category 4 status with estimated winds of 140 mph earlier today. After that peak, Eugene started weakening and now has winds of 120 mph. Further weakening is expected as Eugene moves over cooler waters. Invest 97E is not looking as impressive as it was last night and has a 20% chance of becoming a tropical disturbance in the next 48 hours.

Western Pacific

Typhoon Muifa is now forecast to make landfall near Shanghai, China as the equivalent of a category 3 hurricane. This will be troublesome for one of the busiest ports in the world.


Figure 3 Five-day track forecast for Typhoon Muifa from the Joint Typhoon Warning Center.

Angela will have a full post Thursday morning discussing Emily.

Thanks for reading,

Dr. Rob Carver
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501. IceCoast 13:31 GMT le 04 août 2011    
Winds picking up on Okinawa as Muifa approaches (if anywhere here cares about the WPAC.) Folks there are in for a long day.

Wind from the NE (040 degrees) at 49 MPH (43 KT) gusting to 69 MPH (60 KT) (direction variable)
Pressure (altimeter) 28.99 in. Hg (981 hPa)




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502. farupnorth 13:31 GMT le 04 août 2011    
Quoting HarryMc:


The infrared floater loop shows how dramatic Emily's northeast and north are getting hit
Link


Soon her center will be directly below the highest mountains will probable have a serious impact as that cool dry air hits her inner circulation.
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503. stormpetrol 13:31 GMT le 04 août 2011    
I think Emily center is around 17.2N/72.5W moving west at around 270-275degrees.
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504. starbuck02 13:32 GMT le 04 août 2011    
When is the next HH flight expected?
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505. ProgressivePulse 13:32 GMT le 04 août 2011    
Quoting TampaFLUSA:
So that's it for a while for the Recon flights, am I reading the pan of the day correctly?


B. A G-IV MISSION FOR 05/0000Z DEPARTING 04/1730Z.
C. A P-3 TAIL DOPPER RADAR MISSION DEPARTING 04/2000Z.

I. ATLANTIC REQUIREMENTS
1. TROPICAL STORM EMILY
FLIGHT ONE -- TEAL 72
A. 04/1800Z,05/0000Z
B. AFXXX 1105A EMILY
C. 04/1530Z
D. 20.0N 74.0W
E. 04/1730Z TO 04/2330Z
F. SFC TO 15,000 FT
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506. ProgressivePulse 13:32 GMT le 04 août 2011    
Quoting starbuck02:
When is the next HH flight expected?


2 1/2 hours.
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507. BiloxiGirl 13:33 GMT le 04 août 2011    
Could have sworn I just heard the HH plane fire up. What time are they flying today?
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508. IceCoast 13:33 GMT le 04 août 2011    
Quoting MeterologyStudent56:


Are you sure that is correct?

I though the 12z dynamic models havent come out yet....



I believe they are still running, but I also believe some of the early cycle tracks have already come in such as the BAMMS and TVCN. Someone feel free to correct me if i'm wrong.

Edit: I realize now you said Dynamic too. I honestly have no clue how updated they are because RaleighWx doesn't specify when each one is, but they are usually spot on at that site.
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509. stormpetrol 13:34 GMT le 04 août 2011    
JUst adding Emily will soon be moving nearly one degree below the nest forecast point!
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510. kmanhurricaneman 13:34 GMT le 04 août 2011    
later
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511. RescueAFR 13:34 GMT le 04 août 2011    
Quoting BiloxiGirl:
Could have sworn I just heard the HH plane fire up. What time are they flying today?

Good Morning.. are you at Kessler AFB?
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512. msgambler 13:34 GMT le 04 août 2011    
Quoting BiloxiGirl:
Could have sworn I just heard the HH plane fire up. What time are they flying today?
You live that close to the runway at Keesler? My kids used to live By gate 7.
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513. TampaFLUSA 13:36 GMT le 04 août 2011    
Thank you.
Quoting ProgressivePulse:


B. A G-IV MISSION FOR 05/0000Z DEPARTING 04/1730Z.
C. A P-3 TAIL DOPPER RADAR MISSION DEPARTING 04/2000Z.

I. ATLANTIC REQUIREMENTS
1. TROPICAL STORM EMILY
FLIGHT ONE -- TEAL 72
A. 04/1800Z,05/0000Z
B. AFXXX 1105A EMILY
C. 04/1530Z
D. 20.0N 74.0W
E. 04/1730Z TO 04/2330Z
F. SFC TO 15,000 FT
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514. wunderkidcayman 13:36 GMT le 04 août 2011    
Quoting stormpetrol:
I think Emily center is around 17.2N/72.5W moving west at around 270-275degrees.


I have it at 17.0N/17.1N 72.0W moving west at around 270
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515. ProgressivePulse 13:36 GMT le 04 août 2011    
513. TampaFLUSA

Anytime.
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517. WeafhermanNimmy 13:38 GMT le 04 août 2011    
When is TS Emily going to move to the WNW? I have been shocked that TS Emily has not fizzled out yet.
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518. 7544 13:39 GMT le 04 août 2011    
tvcn the nhc fav model now shows more west landfall over so fl if they follow that on the next update could we see watches up at 11 am
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519. Floodman 13:40 GMT le 04 août 2011    
Morning folks! So Emily is nearly one degree below her forecast position...I haven;t been following very closely; what are the elements effecting her steering?
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520. Levi32 13:40 GMT le 04 août 2011    
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521. goofyrider 13:40 GMT le 04 août 2011    
still looks like EM is headed west
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522. tea3781 13:40 GMT le 04 août 2011    
Anybody have a good satellite website for Emily?
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523. msgambler 13:41 GMT le 04 août 2011    
Morning Flood, How you been, first time I've seen you this season
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524. RitaEvac 13:42 GMT le 04 août 2011    
Wont be long and the models will have this going due east.... then everyone will be going nuts....while I continue to.....west she blows...
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525. OneDay 13:42 GMT le 04 août 2011    
Quoting farupnorth:


Soon her center will be directly below the highest mountains will probable have a serious impact as that cool dry air hits her inner circulation.


Thus the fake eye feature that is going to send the blog into a tizzy in about an hour...
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527. CBJeff 13:43 GMT le 04 août 2011    
The longer Emily lingers south of Haiti, the more it's going to rip her up. Ernesto (2006) and Gustav (2008) managed to fight their way across the lower "claw" of Haiti, but they were bigger, better organized, and moving faster than crazy, lop-sided Emily. If she meanders across that terrain in her current state, I doubt much will emerge into the Windward Passage. That may be why the model tracks for the Atlantic are jumping all over the place. They're charting the course of a ghost system.
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528. Floodman 13:43 GMT le 04 août 2011    
Quoting msgambler:
Morning Flood, How you been, first time I've seen you this season


Howdy! I've been in and out a bit...lots of new faces this year (like every year, I guess). How are you?
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530. angiest 13:45 GMT le 04 août 2011    
Quoting CBJeff:
The longer Emily lingers south of Haiti, the more it's going to rip her up. Ernesto (2006) and Gustav (2008) managed to fight their way across the lower "claw" of Haiti, but they were bigger, better organized, and moving faster than crazy, lop-sided Emily. If she meanders across that terrain in her current state, I doubt much will emerge into the Windward Passage. That may be why the model tracks for the Atlantic are jumping all over the place. They're charting the course of a ghost system.


Assuming her center actually hits anything. So far she isn't showing that that will happen.
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531. tea3781 13:45 GMT le 04 août 2011    
Quoting cat5hurricane:

This one is one of my favorites. It updates at :26 and :56 after the hour for each frame shot at :15 & :45 after the hour.


Thank You!
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532. msgambler 13:46 GMT le 04 août 2011    
Doing great and your correct on the new "faces". Some just remakes of old faces....LOL.....Let's hope we can all keep our heads throughout the season. Ohh, speaking of heads, you need a haircut.....LOL
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534. RescueAFR 13:47 GMT le 04 août 2011    
Quoting tea3781:
Anybody have a good satellite website for Emily?

been using this one..
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535. Floodman 13:47 GMT le 04 août 2011    
Quoting CBJeff:
The longer Emily lingers south of Haiti, the more it's going to rip her up. Ernesto (2006) and Gustav (2008) managed to fight their way across the lower "claw" of Haiti, but they were bigger, better organized, and moving faster than crazy, lop-sided Emily. If she meanders across that terrain in her current state, I doubt much will emerge into the Windward Passage. That may be why the model tracks for the Atlantic are jumping all over the place. They're charting the course of a ghost system.


Bear in mind that the models ALWAYS have a tough time with smaller, weaker systems...the wide variance you're seeing is in large part due to the models uncertainty with a weak Emily
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536. RescueAFR 13:48 GMT le 04 août 2011    
Quoting RescueAFR:

been using this one..


sorry.. need to figure out how to post a url link..
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537. Gearsts 13:48 GMT le 04 août 2011    
Quoting Levi32:
Good morning.

Blog update:

Tropical Tidbit for Thursday, August 4th, with Video
Levy i ask you something on your vid:)
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538. BiloxiGirl 13:48 GMT le 04 août 2011    
Quoting RescueAFR:

Good Morning.. are you at Kessler AFB?


Not at KAFB but in Biloxi, south of the bay. I can hear all the big planes fire up at my house.
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539. RescueAFR 13:49 GMT le 04 août 2011    
Quoting BiloxiGirl:


Not at KAFB but in Biloxi, south of the bay. I can hear all the big planes fire up at my house.

sweet.. gotta love the sound of a Herk cranking her engines..
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540. yesterway 13:50 GMT le 04 août 2011    
Quoting RescueAFR:

sweet.. gotta love the sound of a Herk cranking her engines..


"His" engines...
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541. hurricanejunky 13:50 GMT le 04 août 2011    
Quoting Floodman:
Morning folks! So Emily is nearly one degree below her forecast position...I haven;t been following very closely; what are the elements effecting her steering?


Hey Flood! How's it going?
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542. belizeit 13:51 GMT le 04 août 2011    
Quoting JasonIsCoolman:
EMILY A FISH STORM!!!!
Are you calling the poor Hatian People fish ?
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543. Waltanater 13:51 GMT le 04 août 2011    
Quoting kmanhurricaneman:
holy smokes !!!!! emily got everbody wired havent seen this since Fay guys emily aint going north anytime soonsteering current is very weak thats why she slowed if there was anything to pull her north it wouldn't take much, i'll say when and if she gets to 75 and 17.5 she is going take off like a kite to Jamaica then turn north across cuba and then towards florida west coast. TJMOFO
I am beginning to think this same very thing. All evidence suggests this now. I think that trough will not be as strong or will fall apart.
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544. NICycloneChaser 13:51 GMT le 04 août 2011    
Quoting JasonIsCoolman:
EMILY A FISH STORM!!!!


Jason, unfortunately Emily is going to cause a lot of flooding problems and landslides in Haiti before the recurve.
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545. DookiePBC 13:52 GMT le 04 août 2011    
Quoting Levi32:
Good morning.

Blog update:

Tropical Tidbit for Thursday, August 4th, with Video


Great analysis...thanks as always!
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546. sailfish01 13:53 GMT le 04 août 2011    
Quoting Levi32:
Good morning.

Blog update:

Tropical Tidbit for Thursday, August 4th, with Video

Nice job Levi Thanks,
Lurking in east central FL
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547. cajunkid 13:53 GMT le 04 août 2011    
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548. xtremeweathertracker 13:53 GMT le 04 août 2011    
Quoting Levi32:
Good morning.

Blog update:

Tropical Tidbit for Thursday, August 4th, with Video

Thanks Levi Great Update!!!
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549. watercayman 13:53 GMT le 04 août 2011    
Not sure if it has been said, but I wanted to thank Dr. Rob & Angela for their posts. It sure is nice to have these intermediate updates in the middle of the night. Like a friend is out there helping us wade through this. I can imagine this would be very comforting if a storm was heading your way.

Would love to see this augmented posting perhaps even when Dr. Masters is back -- the normal blog is great -- the combination might even be a tiny bit better.

Either way, greatly appreciate the work here as always.
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550. Jax82 13:53 GMT le 04 août 2011    
Looks like the loop finally broke off an Eddy the past few days.

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551. wunderkidcayman 13:53 GMT le 04 août 2011    
Quoting NICycloneChaser:


Jason, unfortunately Emily is going to cause a lot of flooding problems and landslides in Haiti before the recurve.

don't quote him he just wants the attention
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