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Remnants of Emily could redevelop; Muifa batters Okinawa; Central U.S. roasts
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 16:54 GMT le 05 août 2011 +24
Tropical Storm Emily degraded into an open tropical wave yesterday afternoon, after Hurricane Hunters could no longer locate a center of circulation at the surface. Through the morning yesterday, the storm appeared to lose most of its strong thunderstorm activity on the north side, and mid-level circulation was broad (tropical cyclones need a tight, coherent circulation to maintain themselves). Soon after the Hurricane Hunters took a pass through the storm, the National Hurricane Center demoted Emily from a tropical storm to a remnant low, while continuing to stress the rainfall threat to Hispaniola and eastern Cuba. Today it appears the center of the remnants are located just north of eastern Cuba in the southern Bahamas, although thunderstorm activity continues across eastern Cuba. Hispaniola probably saw rain and thunderstorms again early this morning, the strongest of which were on the eastern side of the island. New thunderstorm activity is starting to develop in the southeast Bahamas. Given Wednesday's rain gauge analysis from CPC, Hispaniola probably saw at least an additional 5 inches of rain yesterday.

Environmental conditions remain pretty much the same as yesterday, but are expected to become more favorable for Emily's remnants, and redevelopment of the storm is possible. Circulation from the low to mid-levels is still broad and tilting to the east with height due to the lingering moderate westerly wind shear. However, this shear is expected to dissipate some over the next 24 hours, and signs of this are already present to the west of the remnants. The dry air that has been following the storm since its inception has dissipated, as well.


Figure 1. Satellite imagery of the remnants of Tropical Storm Emily as they move northwest away from Cuba and Hispaniola and into the Bahamas.

Forecast for Emily's Remnants
Interestingly, the models have come into better agreement on the forecast for former Emily now that it has lost its surface circulation and degenerated into a tropical wave. The ECMWF, which has come out ahead in this forecasting game so far, is optimistic today that Emily will redevelop. Other global models—GFS, CMC, and FIM—also redevelop the storm. Consensus on timing of redevelopment seems to be when the wave reaches the northern Bahamas in 24 to 48 hours. At 12Z (8am EDT), the high-resolution HWRF model run forecasted a track that was furthest to the west of all the models, scraping eastern Florida as it travels northwest. The most probable track and intensity forecast that I see at this point is north-northwest movement over the next 24 to 36 hours, at which point the system will take a fairly sharp turn to the northeast and out to sea. Without an already established, coherent circulation, it appears unlikely that if Emily is reborn it will intensify into anything more than a moderate tropical storm. However, there is some potential as the system moves out to see that it could gain some strength and develop hurricane-force winds before it transitions into an extra-tropical cyclone.

Typhoon Muifa passes to the south of Okinawa, heads into East China Sea

The center of Typhoon Muifa passed to the south of Okinawa earlier this morning (Eastern time) and it continues to batter the islands with high winds and torrential rain. Local radar estimate rainfall rates as high as 80 mm/hour (approx. 3 inches/hour) in the strongest rain bands. Kadena Air Force Base near the city of Okinawa has been reporting sustained winds of 47 mph with gusts up to 72 mph. Muifa is expected to turn northwest today as it enters the East China Sea as a category 1 on the Saffir-Simpson scale, and then intensify into a category 2 as it passes close to eastern China. This morning, the forecast is that Muifa will probably not make landfall anywhere as a typhoon.


Figure 2. Radar imagery from the Japan Meteorological Agency around 1am JST. Scale is in millimeters. Highest rainfall rates appear to be approximately 3 inches/hour.

South-Central U.S. continues to bake

The extreme heat continues again today after 269 high maximum and 250 high minimum temperature records were set yesterday, 19 and 29 of which were all-time records, respectively. 206 of yesterday's records were 110°F or higher. Yesterday, Reuters was reporting that Texas was one power plant shutdown away from rolling blackouts. The forecast today doesn't look any better. Heat index values up to 125° are forecast in eastern Texas and the Lower Mississippi Valley.

Particularly toasty heat index values from yesterday:

• Mobile, Alabama: 120°
• Arkadelphia, Arkansas: 121°
• Bay St. Louis, Mississippi: 121°
• Memphis, Tennessee: 122°


Figure 3. Heat index forecast from the ECMWF for today. Scale is in degrees Fahrenheit. You can plot model forecasts using Wundermap by choosing the "Model Data" layer.

Angela
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201. tatoprweather 18:26 GMT le 05 août 2011    


What's next?
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202. cwf1069 18:26 GMT le 05 août 2011    
Also note that the mid level is more stacked with the spin at ne, but that can change when a definitive llc form. Sheer continue lowering.
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203. Jedkins01 18:27 GMT le 05 août 2011    
Quoting SPLbeater:
Still a small portion of dry air around, dont expect it to stay long though.


This is upper dry air, atmospheric sounding show dry aloft and high tropical moisture in the lower half of the atmosphere in the region where the remnants of Emily is. Still this upper dry air shows how shallow the remnant low is.
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204. MississippiWx 18:28 GMT le 05 août 2011    
Quoting Jedkins01:
The dominant low is clearly on the north coast of Central Cuba, surface obs and satellite support this. Any other spins are just meso-lows, Such as the one in the Bahamas, which no longer has any spin with it on the most recent satellite images. Convection is beginning to build a bit on the east side of vort MAX. But remember, the remnant low has shear over it, and its very shallow. Soundings and satellite indicate high tropical moisture with the remnant low, but most of it is shallow, dry air aloft exists above the high moisture. So this remnant low has a lot going against it to redevelop, it still could, but it seems still like it would take some time.

Now, as far as movement goes, current movement is WNW which would put it in the direction of the keys/southeastern gulf.

Computer models and forecasters are still calling for it to turn north, so with so much agreement for it do so, it wouldn't be wise to say it won't. However at the same time, we shouldn't pretend it is turning north towards the northern Bahamas till it actually does so.

My advice is to keep a close watch on this little fella if you live in Central and South Florida. Not because its a threat, but it will determine if above average or below average rain fall coverage will come in the next few days.

The fact is, if the remnant low continues WNW, it will wrap high moisture over Florida, leading to numerous showers and thunderstorms especially with daytime heating towards the western side of the State. But if it does turn north like it is being forecast to. Below normal coverage will temporarily be in place with a light northerly flow.

We shall see.


Saying that anything is clearly dominant right now is incorrect. There is nothing clearly dominant about a broad area of low pressure.
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205. Vero1 18:28 GMT le 05 août 2011    
193. MississippiWx 6:22 PM

A 1011 MB LOW PRESSURE CENTER IS NEAR 22N76W JUST OFF THE COAST
OF CUBA ON THE BAHAMAS SIDE. THIS LOW PRESSURE CENTER IS THE
REMNANT OF EMILY. A SURFACE TROUGH EXTENDS FROM THE LOW CENTER
ACROSS CUBA TO CAYMAN BRAC AND LITTLE CAYMAN...AND THEN TO
15N81W IN THE WESTERN CARIBBEAN SEA.
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206. HurricaneHunterJoe 18:28 GMT le 05 août 2011    
Quoting rod2635:


And if you had just awakened from a 30 day sleep and this was the very first thing you saw, what would you say, tropically and objectively speaking.
i would say hmmmmmmmmmmm, interesting
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207. whepton3 18:28 GMT le 05 août 2011    
Quoting Patrap:
Storm Relative 1km Geostationary Visible Imagery
loop


Looks like the shear just cuts it when it gets too high.
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208. reedzone 18:28 GMT le 05 août 2011    
Wow, looking at my first track of Emily.. I really nailed this one down.. In terms of track that is.

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209. tatoprweather 18:29 GMT le 05 août 2011    
What's next?
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210. Jedkins01 18:30 GMT le 05 août 2011    
Quoting MississippiWx:


Saying that anything is clearly dominant right now is incorrect. There is nothing clearly dominant about a broad area of low pressure.


Well the center is pretty darn clear to me, if its not clear to everyone then I apologize, but I'm pointing it so its easier to follow where the whole spin is moving at the moment. That way its easier to track to see if it keeps moving WNW or if it begins to turn north.
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211. gordydunnot 18:30 GMT le 05 août 2011    
Well everyone have a nice weekend. Inclosing we may need a new acronym for these systems that seem to run by the greater Antilles. My suggestion would be CELLCS or constantly ejecting low level circulation systems.
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212. nrtiwlnvragn 18:31 GMT le 05 août 2011    
Changed their mind on location

AL 05 2011080518 BEST 0 230N 780W 30 1011 WV
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213. MississippiWx 18:31 GMT le 05 août 2011    
Quoting Vero1:
193. MississippiWx 6:22 PM

A 1011 MB LOW PRESSURE CENTER IS NEAR 22N76W JUST OFF THE COAST
OF CUBA ON THE BAHAMAS SIDE. THIS LOW PRESSURE CENTER IS THE
REMNANT OF EMILY. A SURFACE TROUGH EXTENDS FROM THE LOW CENTER
ACROSS CUBA TO CAYMAN BRAC AND LITTLE CAYMAN...AND THEN TO
15N81W IN THE WESTERN CARIBBEAN SEA.


Those coordinates do not go hand in hand with the western area of vorticity.
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215. MississippiWx 18:32 GMT le 05 août 2011    
Quoting nrtiwlnvragn:
Changed their mind on location

AL 05 2011080518 BEST 0 230N 780W 30 1011 WV


That puts it much closer to the spin just north of Cuba.
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216. reedzone 18:32 GMT le 05 août 2011    
Quoting nrtiwlnvragn:
Changed their mind on location

AL 05 2011080518 BEST 0 230N 780W 30 1011 WV


Actually that makes alot more sense based on the satellite obs.. Look at the V signature.. Classic looking for a developing system.

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217. whepton3 18:32 GMT le 05 août 2011    
Quoting nrtiwlnvragn:
Changed their mind on location

AL 05 2011080518 BEST 0 230N 780W 30 1011 WV


Can't remember where the last fix was... did they move it west?
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218. stillwaiting 18:33 GMT le 05 août 2011    
Quoting reedzone:
Wow, looking at my first track of Emily.. I really nailed this one down.. In terms of track that is.

,congrats!!,almost the same track as the nhc had it.
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219. BenBIogger 18:33 GMT le 05 août 2011    
Good Afternoon.


8-10 Day 500MB Mean

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220. hurricanehunter27 18:33 GMT le 05 août 2011    
Here is an intersting fact about wunderground.com, it is ranked 480th in the world for web traffic, thats impressive.
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221. tatoprweather 18:33 GMT le 05 août 2011    
What's next
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222. Jedkins01 18:33 GMT le 05 août 2011    
Quoting MississippiWx:


Those coordinates do not go hand in hand with the western area of vorticity.


The coordinates are by the vort center, though. I'm sure they know where to mark the center better than all of us.
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223. nrtiwlnvragn 18:34 GMT le 05 août 2011    
Their track in shown in SHIPS text
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224. shfr173 18:34 GMT le 05 août 2011    
Thunderstorms exploding around LLC North of cuba
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225. ecflweatherfan 18:35 GMT le 05 août 2011    
Quoting nrtiwlnvragn:
Changed their mind on location

AL 05 2011080518 BEST 0 230N 780W 30 1011 WV


Boy, that is going to throw the models for a huge loop.
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226. CybrTeddy 18:35 GMT le 05 août 2011    
Quoting hurricanehunter27:
Here is an intersting fact about wunderground.com, it is ranked 480th in the world for web traffic, thats impressive.


Wonder out of how many of them see us argue over hurricanes and GW.
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228. shfr173 18:35 GMT le 05 août 2011    
Anyone have a fix on pressure in that area?
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229. Seflhurricane 18:36 GMT le 05 août 2011    
Quoting shfr173:
Thunderstorms exploding around LLC North of cuba
yes they are the 8Pm Two will be intresting, one thing to note is if emily regenerates TS warinings wil be issued on short notice for SE Fla. IMO
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230. reedzone 18:36 GMT le 05 août 2011    
Quoting stillwaiting:
,congrats!!,almost the same track as the nhc had it.


Actually the NHC had their track further east, heading NW then WNW.. I just thought it was cool.
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231. pottery 18:36 GMT le 05 août 2011    
Emily reminds me of a toothache I once had...
Refuses to go away, is not getting better or worse, is frustrating, annoying, and totally unpredictable.
I hope that the rain forecasts for Haiti are wrong though!

In the meantime, heavy rain and some thunder around here this morning with the promise of plenty more to come.
Could be a wet weekend....
No Problem!
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232. nrtiwlnvragn 18:36 GMT le 05 août 2011    
Quoting whepton3:


Can't remember where the last fix was... did they move it west?


Post 195
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233. hurricanehunter27 18:36 GMT le 05 août 2011    
Quoting JFV2011:
Oh dear God, it's beginning to wrap around again.

This is the JFV imposter right?
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234. MississippiWx 18:37 GMT le 05 août 2011    
Quoting hurricanehunter27:

This is the JFV imposter right?


Nope, it's actually him. Exchanged some colorful emails with him yesterday.
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235. ecflweatherfan 18:37 GMT le 05 août 2011    
I'll bet the HH were heading back into the area, and thought "Well, since we're in the neighborhood, let's check this out!"
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236. MississippiWx 18:38 GMT le 05 août 2011    
Looks like you guys may have nailed the more dominant area, though. I've been wrong almost the entire time with Emily, so why should I start getting things right now? :-p I'd love it if the remnants evaporated right now.

We'll see how it plays out.
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238. Seflhurricane 18:38 GMT le 05 août 2011    
Quoting ecflweatherfan:
I'll bet the HH were heading back into the area, and thought "Well, since we're in the neighborhood, let's check this out!"
Were the HH on Call
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239. whepton3 18:38 GMT le 05 août 2011    
Quoting nrtiwlnvragn:


Post 195


Got it... thanks... moved it a good bit west... could have implications down the road.
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241. tropicfreak 18:39 GMT le 05 août 2011    
Quoting MississippiWx:
Looks like you guys may have nailed the more dominant area, though. I've been wrong almost the entire time with Emily, so why should I start getting things right now? :-p I'd love it if the remnants evaporated right now.

We'll see how it plays out.


Like Don.
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242. Jedkins01 18:39 GMT le 05 août 2011    
Quoting shfr173:
Thunderstorms exploding around LLC North of cuba


I don't know about exploding just looks like typical convection to me. No indication that the remnants are ready to become name again, yet.
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244. tea3781 18:40 GMT le 05 août 2011    
The CMC had been consistently running this storm up the west coast of Florida. It looks to me like that track could pan out...
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246. MississippiWx 18:41 GMT le 05 août 2011    
Quoting DSIjeff:


Chances of it getting on the western side of the peninsula?



LOL...I wouldn't ask me...
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247. ecflweatherfan 18:42 GMT le 05 août 2011    
Quoting Seflhurricane:
Were the HH on Call


This is deemed an untasked mission.
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248. redwagon 18:42 GMT le 05 août 2011    
Quoting reedzone:


Actually the NHC had their track further east, heading NW then WNW.. I just thought it was cool.

Have you done any analysis as why TC formation is somewhat expected SE of LA, according to the map?

Are any models hinting at any extra-tropical formation?
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249. 7544 18:42 GMT le 05 août 2011    
does all this mean shes trying to make a comback or is on her way redeveloping

will the models shift west with new info tia
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250. MississippiWx 18:42 GMT le 05 août 2011    
MJO 15-day forecast:

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251. Seflhurricane 18:43 GMT le 05 août 2011    
Quoting ecflweatherfan:


This is deemed an untasked mission.
so is recon still going to fly in that area to check ??? i dont think so
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