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Tropical Depression Seven forms
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 14:25 GMT le 14 août 2011 +14
The latest in our unusual number of weak tropical cyclones this season, Tropical Depression Seven, has formed to the southeast of Bermuda. Unless you live in Bermuda, TD 7 is not going to be a concern. Radar out of Bermuda shows an area of rain on the northern side of TD 7 beginning to approach the island, and rain from the storm will likely affect the island tonight and on Monday. TD 7 is not well-organized, and has only limited heavy thunderstorms, as seen on visible satellite images. While wind shear is a low 5 - 10 knots, dry air surrounds TD 7, and is keeping the storm from intensifying. None of the computer models foresee that TD 7 will ever become more than a weak tropical storm.


Figure 1. Morning satellite image of TD 7.

92L
TD 7 isn't the only system Bermuda needs to watch, Invest 92L is a day behind it, and will follow a path very similar to TD 7's. The disturbance will pass close to Bermuda on Tuesday, bringing the island a second round of tropical rains. However, Invest 92L is very disorganized, as seen on recent visible satellite loops. Dry air and close proximity to TD 7 will likely keep 92L from showing significant development over the next two days, with NHC giving the system just a 30% chance of developing into a tropical depression by Tuesday morning.

Elsewhere in the tropics
The disturbance midway between the Lesser Antilles Islands and the coast of Africa we've been tracking over the past few days, Invest 93L, has fallen apart and is no longer a threat to develop. This system will need to be watched once it enters the Caribbean later this week, though. None of the reliable models for predicting tropical cyclone formation predict development of this system or any new disturbances over the coming week.

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851. KoritheMan 22:27 GMT le 14 août 2011    
Quoting ackee:
EX 93L nearing 60 W still not organize give it currenT state I am gviing up on EX 93L


The actual wave axis is actually closer to 45W, as seen here:

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852. Tazmanian 22:27 GMT le 14 août 2011    
Quoting Vincent4989:

It really doesn't exist. Its just made up by you and other wunderbloggers here.




we do have 96L am not jokeing
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853. islander101010 22:28 GMT le 14 août 2011    
Quoting ncstorm:
From our local TV Weather..

STORMTRACK 3: A cell capable of producing a tornado is moving east at 15 mph over Holly Shelter Game Land.

hunker down good luck
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854. emcf30 22:28 GMT le 14 août 2011    
916
WFUS52 KRAH 142224
TORRAH
NCC067-142315-
/O.NEW.KRAH.TO.W.0043.110814T2224Z-110814T2315Z/

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE RALEIGH NC
624 PM EDT SUN AUG 14 2011

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN RALEIGH HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
FORSYTH COUNTY IN CENTRAL NORTH CAROLINA

* UNTIL 715 PM EDT

* AT 623 PM EDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A
TORNADO OVER DONNAHA...OR OVER KING...MOVING SOUTHEAST AT 20 MPH.

* LOCATIONS IMPACTED INCLUDE...
RURAL HALL...
PFAFFTOWN...STANLEYVILLE...
WINSTON-SALEM...
SEDGE GARDEN...

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855. MiamiHurricanes09 22:28 GMT le 14 août 2011    
Quoting deaddude21:

Or a big spin/more well defined spin...

There is nothing above Hispaniola other than a thunderstorm.


North of Hispañola btw.
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856. washingtonian115 22:28 GMT le 14 août 2011    
Mmmm Gert reminds me of Shary from last year.The NHC forecasted Shary to only get up to a marginal or strong tropical storm.But it happen to reach hurricane intensity.I wouldn't be surprised if it happen in Gert's case.
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857. robj144 22:28 GMT le 14 août 2011    
Quoting bappit:
I see it said often that:

"Tropical systems are mother nature's way of transporting heat from the tropics towards the poles."

I think that was in my Golden Nature Guide to Weather back in 1964? Some similar book if not there. I think it is a lot of balogna.

Baroclinic systems are the go-to guys for transporting heat poleward. They aren't limited to oceans with high SST's, they don't occur only in certain times of the year--though the most intense mid-latitude systems do occur in winter--and they often are a lot larger than tropical cyclones. Tropical cyclones in fact are rare events compared to mid-latitude cyclones. Barotropic systems primarily transport heat vertically--but I'll bet that the vertical transport of heat by baroclinic systems still dominates over barotropic systems.

Perhaps the rationale behind this kind of statement is that people want to assign some higher purpose to a force that can be so destructive. If things did work that way, then what is the purpose of drought?


But hurricanes are gigantic heat engines that cool the tropics and do go poleward.
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858. NICycloneChaser 22:29 GMT le 14 août 2011    
Quoting Vincent4989:

It really doesn't exist. Its just made up by you and other wunderbloggers here.


It exists, it's on the navy site. I just can't figure out where it is lol.
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859. lottotexas 22:29 GMT le 14 août 2011    
BEGIN
NHC_ATCF
invest_al962011.invest
FSTDA
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201108142020
NONE
NOTIFY=ATRP
END
INVEST, AL, L, , , , , 96, 2011, DB, O, 2011081418, 9999999999, , , , , , METWATCH, , AL962011
AL, 96, 2011081418, , BEST, 0, 367N, 638W, 25, 0, DB, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
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860. Hurricanes101 22:29 GMT le 14 août 2011    
Quoting Vincent4989:

It really doesn't exist. Its just made up by you and other wunderbloggers here.



AL, 96, 2011081418, , BEST, 0, 367N, 638W, 25, 0, DB, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,

You were saying?
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861. KoritheMan 22:29 GMT le 14 août 2011    
Quoting Tropicsweatherpr:
I am making an album blog of past famous and infamous hurricanes and typhoons.If any of you want to add pics,go ahead.

Link


Sweet. I didn't even know about this. Thanks for the enlightenment!
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862. Vincent4989 22:29 GMT le 14 août 2011    
Quoting Tazmanian:




we do have 96L am not jokeing


does not exist i checked out at navy site
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863. Tazmanian 22:29 GMT le 14 août 2011    
Quoting Hurricanes101:



AL, 96, 2011081418, , BEST, 0, 367N, 638W, 25, 0, DB, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,

You were saying?




lol
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864. Tropicsweatherpr 22:30 GMT le 14 août 2011    
Quoting KoritheMan:


The actual wave axis is actually closer to 45W, as seen here:



At 18z surface analysis,they put the wave axis at 50W.

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865. Tazmanian 22:30 GMT le 14 août 2011    
Quoting Vincent4989:


does not exist i checked out at navy site




yes it dos we do have 96L your not even looking
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866. j2008 22:30 GMT le 14 août 2011    
Quoting Vincent4989:

It really doesn't exist. Its just made up by you and other wunderbloggers here.

AL, 96, 2011081418, , BEST, 0, 367N, 638W, 25, 0, DB. Oh yea Its real. LOL.
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867. washingtonian115 22:30 GMT le 14 août 2011    
Quoting hunkerdown:
so is your brain
Oh nice come back!
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868. NICycloneChaser 22:30 GMT le 14 août 2011    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
North of Hispañola btw.


Ohhhhh, Emily's granddaughter. Thank you :)
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870. Tazmanian 22:32 GMT le 14 août 2011    
Quoting Vincent4989:

that's also made up information.





NO its not we really do have 96L
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871. j2008 22:32 GMT le 14 août 2011    
Quoting Vincent4989:

that's also made up information.

Need the link to see for yourself??
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872. KoritheMan 22:32 GMT le 14 août 2011    
Quoting washingtonian115:
Mmmm Gert reminds me of Shary from last year.The NHC forecasted Shary to only get up to a marginal or strong tropical storm.But it happen to reach hurricane intensity.I wouldn't be surprised if it happen in Gert's case.


If I'm not mistaken, the environment surrounding Shary was a bit more conducive, as there was no real semblance of dry air. Her satellite presentation definitely wasn't one indicative of dry air intrusion.
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873. Tazmanian 22:33 GMT le 14 août 2011    
Vincent4989: you will find 96L at 67N, 638W
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874. KoritheMan 22:33 GMT le 14 août 2011    
Quoting Tropicsweatherpr:


At 18z surface analysis,they put the wave axis at 50W.



Ah, okay. I couldn't find the 18z, or I would have posted it.
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875. TropicalAnalystwx13 22:33 GMT le 14 août 2011    
Quoting Vincent4989:

that's also made up information.


No, it isn't. We do have 96L.
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876. Tazmanian 22:33 GMT le 14 août 2011    
Quoting j2008:

Need the link to see for yourself??




if he keeps pull this crap am going too give him the poof
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877. Hurricanes101 22:33 GMT le 14 août 2011    
Quoting Vincent4989:

that's also made up information.


96L info

not that you deserve this kind of proof, but here
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878. lottotexas 22:33 GMT le 14 août 2011    
Quoting Vincent4989:

that's also made up information.
Link
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879. tropicfreak 22:34 GMT le 14 août 2011    
Quoting deaddude21:

Or a big spin/more well defined spin...

There is nothing above Hispaniola other than a thunderstorm.


Wow have you ever heard that it split from Gert a few days ago, and it does have good vorticy, get your facts straight.
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880. MiamiHurricanes09 22:34 GMT le 14 août 2011    
Blog is bringing the lulz this afternoon.

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881. blsealevel 22:34 GMT le 14 août 2011    
SEVERE WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE WILMINGTON NC
624 PM EDT SUN AUG 14 2011

...THE TORNADO WARNING FOR EASTERN PENDER COUNTY WILL EXPIRE AT 630
PM EDT...

AT 620 PM EDT...THE STORM WHICH PROMPTED THE WARNING HAS WEAKENED AND IS NO LONGER PRODUCING A TORNADO...THUS THE TORNADO WARNING WAS ALLOWED TO EXPIRE.

THUNDERSTORMS WITH GUSTY WINDS AND FREQUENT LIGHTNING WILL CONTINUE TO AFFECT THE HOLLY SHELTER GAME LAND THROUGH 7 PM.
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882. BahaHurican 22:34 GMT le 14 août 2011    
Quoting jaxbeachbum:
POOF!!! Your condescending attitude is something else. A lot of people come here to look for valued information, they do not need to see a comment where they should pack up their hurricane supplies. Really?


LOL, dude, even the lurkers are poofing you.... lol

I have to say, we shouldn't poof deaddude... the season will school him as necessary.... and one point he makes is valid; the return time for November hurricanes in the US is pretty high.

His problem is that we then see quite a lot of specious logic and faulty argument in his comments . For example, the fact that we did not see a major hurricane impact the US last year doesn't automatically mean we won't see one this year. Same as always, it's a 1/2 chance; either we do or we don't. Additionally, he is trying to use his point to support the rather... naive... view that only hurricanes that impact the US matter, and that ignoring hurricanes in other parts of the ATL somehow strengthens the US position. Finally, we can tell that he doesn't as yet fully understand the ROLE of the NHC, because he believes that they should only comment on and respond to storms that impact the US - hence his view that the season should end shortly after October. He doesn't recognise the US's role as a leader in the WMO and its commitment to providing accurate and thorough information about tropical cyclones in three tropical basins: the ATL, EPac, and CPac.

But that's why he - and most of the rest of us - are here, right? To learn? And the rest of the bloggers, who don't necessarily agree with him, should not automatically "knee-jerk" him off your screens...

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883. louisianaboy444 22:34 GMT le 14 août 2011    
Quoting KoritheMan:


If I'm not mistaken, the environment surrounding Shary was a bit more conducive, as there was no real semblance of dry air. Her satellite presentation definitely wasn't one indicative of dry air intrusion.


How do you know this c*** lol
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884. Hurricanes101 22:35 GMT le 14 août 2011    
29.400N 63.133W

based on recon, that is your center
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885. Tazmanian 22:35 GMT le 14 août 2011    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
Blog is bringing the lulz this afternoon.





see blog 92L is not has close has you think and you cant tell by looking at some 850mb vort that may have been a part of some in else
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886. islander101010 22:35 GMT le 14 août 2011    
Quoting louisianaboy444:


How do you know this c*** lol
this character has been blogging for yrs night shift it knows
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887. washingtonian115 22:35 GMT le 14 août 2011    
Quoting KoritheMan:


If I'm not mistaken, the environment surrounding Shary was a bit more conducive, as there was no real semblance of dry air. Her satellite presentation definitely wasn't one indicative of dry air intrusion.
Yes that's right.Gert seems to be getting better organized though.
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888. wunderkidcayman 22:36 GMT le 14 août 2011    
Quoting KoritheMan:


The actual wave axis is actually closer to 45W, as seen here:



old map look at the 18Z

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889. TropicalAnalystwx13 22:36 GMT le 14 août 2011    
Quoting KoritheMan:


If I'm not mistaken, the environment surrounding Shary was a bit more conducive, as there was no real semblance of dry air. Her satellite presentation definitely wasn't one indicative of dry air intrusion.


But, I think she was being sheared a lot more than what Gert is.
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890. stormpetrol 22:36 GMT le 14 août 2011    
Quoting ackee:
EX 93L nearing 60 W still not organize give it currenT state I am gviing up on EX 93L

I strongly disagree , I think ex93L will be the biggest player of all in about 3-4 days, we here in the western & NW caribbean have to keep a close on it!JMO of course!
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891. bappit 22:36 GMT le 14 août 2011    
Quoting KoritheMan:


Tropical cyclones are much more effective in this endeavor, because they derive their vigor from the latent heat energy of the world's tropical oceans. On the contrary, baroclinic systems derive their energy from temperature and pressure differences, which doesn't make for an effective heat transfer.

Mid-latitude cyclones are often just as intense as tropical cyclones and are often much larger. They occur more frequently. They occur at all times of the year, over land and water. They are more effective.

But I am repeating myself.

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892. KoritheMan 22:36 GMT le 14 août 2011    
Quoting louisianaboy444:


How do you know this c*** lol


Cause I issued forecasts for her. ;)
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893. KoritheMan 22:37 GMT le 14 août 2011    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:


But, I think she was being sheared a lot more than what Gert is.


Yeah, I guess I should have said the thermodynamic environment was more moist.

However, Shary was also moving fairly quickly, which mitigated the effects of the speed shear. That is probably what allowed her to become a hurricane. High latitude systems are notorious for this.
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894. TropicalAnalystwx13 22:37 GMT le 14 août 2011    
Quoting Hurricanes101:
29.400N 63.133W

based on recon, that is your center


O_O

That puts her center right under the deepest convection.

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895. louisianaboy444 22:38 GMT le 14 août 2011    
Quoting KoritheMan:


Cause I issued forecasts for her. ;)


Lol I gotta go back and look at stuff like that your alot better than me in that regard after a season is over i put it in the past lol...I could bring up a storm from 1895 and you will say "Oh with that one what happened was..." lol your like a human history book
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896. stormpetrol 22:38 GMT le 14 août 2011    


definitely a circulation with ex93L
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897. robj144 22:39 GMT le 14 août 2011    
Quoting bappit:

Mid-latitude cyclones are often just as intense as tropical cyclones and are often much larger. They occur more frequently. They occur at all times of the year, over land and water. They are more effective.

But I am repeating myself.



Does it matter which is more effective? The statement that hurricanes transfer heat to the poles is still a correct statement.
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898. louisianaboy444 22:39 GMT le 14 août 2011    
Quoting islander101010:
this character has been blogging for yrs night shift it knows


In reality i been here longer than him lol ask him he will tell ya ;)
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899. GeoffreyWPB 22:40 GMT le 14 août 2011    
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900. stormpetrol 22:40 GMT le 14 août 2011    
ex 93L 13N/52W
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901. AtHomeInTX 22:41 GMT le 14 août 2011    
Quoting Tropicsweatherpr:
I am making an album blog of past famous and infamous hurricanes and typhoons.If any of you want to add pics,go ahead.

Link


That's neat. Hope you don't mind my entry. :)
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