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TD 8 forms; 97L a potential threat to the Caribbean and U.S.
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 15:30 GMT le 19 août 2011 +33
Tropical Depression Eight formed last night near the coast of Honduras, and is headed westwards towards a landfall in Belize on Saturday. TD 8 is a small storm, so will impact a relatively small area of northern Honduras, northern Guatemala, all of Belize, and southern portions of Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula. TD 8 has just enough room between its center and the coast of Honduras to intensify into a moderate strength tropical storm with 50 - 60 mph winds before landfall. It is very unlikely TD8 has the time or room to intensify into a hurricane; NHC gave the storm just a 7% chance of making it to hurricane strength in their 11am EDT wind probability forecast. Should TD8 make it to tropical storm strength, it would be called Harvey.


Figure 1. Morning satellite image of TD 8.

Invest 97L likely to become a tropical storm next week, could threaten the U.S.
A tropical wave near 14°N 48°W, about 800 miles east of the Lesser Antilles Islands, is moving westward near 20 mph. This wave, designated Invest 97L by NHC yesterday, has seen a marked increase in its heavy thunderstorm activity this morning, but dry air to the north and west is slowing development. An impressive amount of large-scale spin is obvious in visible satellite loops, but the storm is at least a day away from forming a well-defined surface circulation. Ocean temperatures are about 28.5°C, about 2°C above the threshold needed to support a tropical storm, and wind shear is low, 5 - 10 knots.


Figure 2. Morning satellite image of the tropical wave 97L.

The computer models have shown an unusual amount of agreement in developing 97L over the past few days, and all the ingredients seem to be in place for a tropical storm to form by Monday or Tuesday as 97L crosses the Northeast Caribbean. The atmosphere is expected to be moister over the Caribbean, wind shear will remain a low 5 - 10 knots, and sea surface temperatures will increase to near 29°C. The main impediment for development will likely be two-fold: too much dry, stable air, and proximity to land.

As seen in Figure 3, there has been an unusual amount of dry, stable air in the Atlantic this year, due to a combination of dry air from Africa, and upper-atmosphere dynamics creating large areas of sinking air that dry as they warm and approach the surface. This stable air has been largely responsible for the fact that none of our seven tropical storms so far this year has made it to hurricane strength, despite the presence of sea surface temperatures that are the 3rd warmest on record across the tropical Atlantic. Tropical Storm Emily in early August encountered problems with dry air when it crossed the Northeast Caribbean, and 97L may have similar difficulties.


Figure 3. Vertical instability of the atmosphere during 2011 in the Caribbean (left) and tropical Atlantic between the Lesser Antilles Islands and coast of Africa (right.) The instability is plotted in °C, as a difference in temperature from near the surface to the upper atmosphere. Thunderstorms grow much more readily when vertical instability is high. Observed vertical instability (blue line) has been much lower than the climatological average from previous years (black line), due to an unusual amount of dry air in the atmosphere, inhibiting tropical storm development this year. Image credit: NOAA/CIRA.

Encounters with land will be another potential major problem for 97L. Most of the computer models take 97L near or over Puerto Rico Sunday night, then very close to or over mountainous Hispaniola Monday night through Tuesday. It is unlikely that 97L will be stronger than a 55 mph tropical storm when it encounters these islands, and passage over the islands could severely disrupt the storm. However, if 97L takes a path just south or north of Hispaniola, the potential exists for the storm to intensify into a hurricane.

There will be moderate wind shear of 10 - 20 knots to the north of the islands early next week, so a path just to the south of the Dominican Republic and Haiti would be more likely to let 97L intensify into a hurricane. A west-northwest motion is likely for 97L through Wednesday, which would bring the storm to the vicinity of Jamaica-Central Cuba-the Central Bahamas on Wednesday. On Wednesday and Thursday, the models agree that a trough of low pressure will dip down over the Eastern U.S., which is likely to turn 97L to the north. The exact timing and strength of this trough varies considerably from model to model, and will be critical in determining where and when 97L will turn to the north. The best model for predicting the timing and strength of such troughs over the past two years has been the ECMWF (European Center model), and this model currently brings 97L into the Florida Keys on Thursday night next week. You can view ECMWF forecasts on our wundermap with the model layer turned on. The European Center does not permit public display of tropical storm positions from their hurricane tracking module of their model, so we are unable to put ECMWF forecasts on our computer model forecast page that plots positions from the other major models.

Remember that a 7-day forecast by even our best model will be off by an average of over 700 miles, so it is too early to tell what part of the U.S. might be most at risk from a strike by 97L. This weekend would be a good time to go over your hurricane preparedness.


Figure 4. Morning satellite image of Invest 98L off the coast of Africa.

Invest 98L near the coast of Africa
A tropical wave near the coast of Africa, a few hundred miles southeast of the Cape Verde Islands, is moving west to west-northwestward at 10 - 15 mph. This wave, designated Invest 98L by NHC yesterday, is large and well-organized, with a modest amount of spin and heavy thunderstorm activity. 98L will bring strong, gusty winds and heavy rains to the Cape Verde Islands today and Saturday as the storm skirts to the south. So far this morning, top sustained winds measured in the islands were 24 mph at Mindelo. Water temperatures are warm, near 27 - 28°C, and wind shear is low, 5 - 10 knots, so 98L should continue to organize today. NHC gave the storm a 50% chance of developing into a tropical depression in their 8am advisory. Once 98L passes to the west of the Cape Verde Islands, it has a long stretch of ocean to cross before it could affect any other land areas. Approximately 70 - 80% of all tropical cyclones that pass this close to the Cape Verde Islands end up curving out to sea and not affecting any other land areas, according to Dr. Bob Hart's excellent historical probability of landfall charts. The latest set of long-range model runs go along with this idea, but it is too early to be confident of this.

Jeff Masters
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2051. HurricaneSwirl 23:56 GMT le 19 août 2011    
Quoting tcbob8794:
still 40% for 97L and 50% for 98L/99L


8PM TWO isn't out yet.
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2052. Tazmanian 23:56 GMT le 19 août 2011    
Quoting tcbob8794:
still 40% for 97L and 50% for 98L/99L




the new two is not out yet
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2053. TropicalAnalystwx13 23:57 GMT le 19 août 2011    
Harvey is farther south and EAST than originally thought. More time over water?

AND...

ROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
800 PM EDT FRI AUG 19 2011

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER IS ISSUING ADVISORIES ON TROPICAL
STORM HARVEY...LOCATED ABOUT 130 MILES EAST OF ROATAN HONDURAS.

SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS HAVE BECOME BETTER ORGANIZED IN
ASSOCIATION WITH A LARGE TROPICAL WAVE LOCATED ABOUT 625 MILES EAST
OF THE LESSER ANTILLES. ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED TO BE
CONDUCIVE FOR A TROPICAL DEPRESSION TO FORM OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF
DAYS. THIS SYSTEM HAS A HIGH CHANCE...60 PERCENT...OF BECOMING A
TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS AS IT MOVES GENERALLY
WESTWARD AT 20 MPH. INTERESTS IN THE LEEWARD ISLANDS SHOULD
MONITOR THE PROGRESS OF THIS DISTURBANCE. LOCALLY HEAVY RAIN AND
GUSTY WINDS ARE LIKELY OVER THE LEEWARD ISLANDS LATE SATURDAY INTO
SUNDAY.

A LARGE BUT DISORGANIZED LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM IS CENTERED ABOUT 100
MILES SOUTHEAST OF THE CAPE VERDE ISLANDS. ALTHOUGH UPPER-LEVEL
WINDS ARE CURRENTLY FAVORABLE FOR SOME DEVELOPMENT...THIS SYSTEM IS
EXPECTED TO ENCOUNTER A MORE STABLE ENVIRONMENT WITH DRIER AIR BY
SUNDAY. THIS SYSTEM HAS A MEDIUM CHANCE...40 PERCENT...OF
BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS AS IT MOVES TO
THE WEST-NORTHWEST AT 10 TO 15 MPH. REGARDLESS OF DEVELOPMENT...
LOCALLY HEAVY RAIN AND STRONG GUSTY WINDS ARE POSSIBLE IN THE CAPE
VERDE ISLANDS TONIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$
FORECASTER BLAKE

CODE RED for 97L.
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2054. WeatherNerdPR 23:57 GMT le 19 août 2011    
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
800 PM EDT FRI AUG 19 2011

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER IS ISSUING ADVISORIES ON TROPICAL
STORM HARVEY...LOCATED ABOUT 130 MILES EAST OF ROATAN HONDURAS.

SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS HAVE BECOME BETTER ORGANIZED IN
ASSOCIATION WITH A LARGE TROPICAL WAVE LOCATED ABOUT 625 MILES EAST
OF THE LESSER ANTILLES. ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED TO BE
CONDUCIVE FOR A TROPICAL DEPRESSION TO FORM OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF
DAYS. THIS SYSTEM HAS A HIGH CHANCE...60 PERCENT...OF BECOMING A
TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS AS IT MOVES GENERALLY
WESTWARD AT 20 MPH. INTERESTS IN THE LEEWARD ISLANDS SHOULD
MONITOR THE PROGRESS OF THIS DISTURBANCE. LOCALLY HEAVY RAIN AND
GUSTY WINDS ARE LIKELY OVER THE LEEWARD ISLANDS LATE SATURDAY INTO
SUNDAY.

A LARGE BUT DISORGANIZED LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM IS CENTERED ABOUT 100
MILES SOUTHEAST OF THE CAPE VERDE ISLANDS. ALTHOUGH UPPER-LEVEL
WINDS ARE CURRENTLY FAVORABLE FOR SOME DEVELOPMENT...THIS SYSTEM IS
EXPECTED TO ENCOUNTER A MORE STABLE ENVIRONMENT WITH DRIER AIR BY
SUNDAY. THIS SYSTEM HAS A MEDIUM CHANCE...40 PERCENT...OF
BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS AS IT MOVES TO
THE WEST-NORTHWEST AT 10 TO 15 MPH. REGARDLESS OF DEVELOPMENT...
LOCALLY HEAVY RAIN AND STRONG GUSTY WINDS ARE POSSIBLE IN THE CAPE
VERDE ISLANDS TONIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$
FORECASTER BLAKE
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2055. Patrap 23:57 GMT le 19 août 2011    
In a pinch if your staying ..and I always advise evac when a told by authortity.

One can Isolate a Hot Water Tank pre-storm by shutting off the Water at the City Meter.

That will prevent the contaminated city water if low pressure or no pressure is available post storm.

One can use that water for Flushing and Other non drinking needs, And can make potable with Boiling or chemical Method.

Best to leave and be inconvienced a few days than to suffer the other.


Heat, and misery are quick padna's after a Major.

Always.
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2056. TropicalAnalystwx13 23:57 GMT le 19 août 2011    
CODE RED.
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2057. stormpetrol 23:57 GMT le 19 août 2011    
Quoting ecflweatherfan:
Interesting 51kt winds... pretty close to the coast though, probably closer than any of us thought he was. Wow! Wonder if Hurricane Watches will go up shortly along the Belize coast?


I notice the center had moved wsw/sw over the last few hours, this might inhibit intensification or aid depending
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2059. whepton3 23:57 GMT le 19 août 2011    
97L high... 60 percent... per 8pm TWO
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2060. MiamiHurricanes09 23:58 GMT le 19 août 2011    
Looks like they're thinking a track over, or north of the Greater Antilles is plausible.

SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS HAVE BECOME BETTER ORGANIZED IN
ASSOCIATION WITH A LARGE TROPICAL WAVE LOCATED ABOUT 625 MILES EAST
OF THE LESSER ANTILLES. ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED TO BE
CONDUCIVE FOR A TROPICAL DEPRESSION TO FORM OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF
DAYS.
THIS SYSTEM HAS A HIGH CHANCE...60 PERCENT...OF BECOMING A
TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS AS IT MOVES GENERALLY
WESTWARD AT 20 MPH. INTERESTS IN THE LEEWARD ISLANDS SHOULD
MONITOR THE PROGRESS OF THIS DISTURBANCE. LOCALLY HEAVY RAIN AND
GUSTY WINDS ARE LIKELY OVER THE LEEWARD ISLANDS LATE SATURDAY INTO
SUNDAY.
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2061. belizeit 23:58 GMT le 19 août 2011    
Quoting Grothar:


Even though I was born in the US. English is my 3rd languange, and the hardest to learn. Very strange language. The only good thing about it is that the vocabulary is so large, one can insult people in many more ways than can be accomplished in other languages. It has been quite useful on the blog.
English is also my 3rd language followed by a dutch dialect and german
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2062. weatherh98 23:58 GMT le 19 août 2011    
They need to come out with it
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2063. NICycloneChaser 23:58 GMT le 19 août 2011    
97L at 60%, 98L down to 40%. No mention of 99L.
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2064. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 23:58 GMT le 19 août 2011    
Quoting NICycloneChaser:


Which one? Lol.
why both of them i think four at the same time is enough for now unless there is a couple of more then there will be six to see spin in a row
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2065. Grothar 23:58 GMT le 19 août 2011    
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2066. tcbob8794 23:58 GMT le 19 août 2011    
Shoot, I saw 7:53 on the home page and thought it was new, guess that was just for Harvey. Sorry :)
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2067. spathy 23:58 GMT le 19 août 2011    
Interesting.

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2068. CybrTeddy 23:58 GMT le 19 août 2011    
97L up to 60%.. 98L down to 40%.
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2069. hotrods 23:59 GMT le 19 août 2011    
Just watch Brain Norcross on the weather channel, he said watch the trough as it digs down and then the pull for 97L towards the southeast if it plays out.
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2070. Patrap 23:59 GMT le 19 août 2011    
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2071. stormwatcherCI 23:59 GMT le 19 août 2011    
Quoting tcbob8794:
still 40% for 97L and 50% for 98L/99L
Actually 97L is at 60% and 98L at 40%.
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2072. TropicalWeatherGrl88 23:59 GMT le 19 août 2011    
Quoting CorneliaMarie:
1950. PrivateIdaho 7:35 PM EDT on August 19, 2011 +0
Quoting PcolaDan:

Wish I could see what you're saying here, but I have you on ignore. :|

Stop quoting Grothar I have him on ignore.

TIA!!!!!



STOP quoting PcolaDan quoting Grothar as I have them both on ignore!!

YEESH!

TIA!!!!!!

LMAO!!
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2073. WeatherNerdPR 23:59 GMT le 19 août 2011    
A very large red circle for 97L.
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2074. weatherman566 00:00 GMT le 20 août 2011    
Anyone else think 99L looks like a tropical depression? It's hard to find out if it truly meets the definition, but man....that convection is sure strong....especially during Dmin.

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2075. Skyepony (Mod) 00:00 GMT le 20 août 2011    
Product: Air Force Vortex Message (URNT12 KNHC)
Transmitted: 19th day of the month at 23:54Z
Corrected: This observation corrected a previous observation.
Aircraft: Air Force Aircraft (Last 3 digits of the tail number are 308)
Storm Number & Year: 08L in 2011
Storm Name: Harvey (flight in the North Atlantic basin)
Mission Number: 4
Observation Number: 07
A. Time of Center Fix: 19th day of the month at 23:27:10Z
B. Center Fix Coordinates: 16°05'N 84°36'W (16.0833N 84.6W)
B. Center Fix Location: 257 miles (413 km) to the ESE (112°) from Belize City, Belize.
C. Minimum Height at Standard Level: 1,424m (4,672ft) at 850mb
D. Estimated (by SFMR or visually) Maximum Surface Wind: 31kts (~ 35.7mph)
E. Location of the Estimated Maximum Surface Wind: 34 nautical miles (39 statute miles) to the WNW/NW (304°) of center fix
F. Maximum Flight Level Wind Inbound: From 54° at 30kts (From the NE at ~ 34.5mph)
G. Location of Maximum Flight Level Wind Inbound: 71 nautical miles (82 statute miles) to the NNW (328°) of center fix
H. Minimum Sea Level Pressure: 999mb (29.50 inHg)
I. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Outside Eye: 17°C (63°F) at a pressure alt. of 1,529m (5,016ft)
J. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Inside Eye: 20°C (68°F) at a pressure alt. of 1,526m (5,007ft)
K. Dewpoint Temp & Sea Surface Temp (collected at same location as temp inside eye): Not Available
L. Eye Character: Not Available
M. Eye Shape: Not Available
N. Fix Determined By: Penetration, Wind, Pressure and Temperature
N. Fix Levels (sfc and flt lvl centers are within 5nm of each other): Surface and 850mb
O. Navigation Fix Accuracy: 0.02 nautical miles
O. Meteorological Accuracy: 1 nautical mile
Remarks Section - Remarks That Were Decoded...
Maximum Wind Outbound: 34kts (~ 39.1mph) in the east quadrant at 23:28:00Z
Maximum Flight Level Wind: 34kts (~ 39.1mph) in the east quadrant at 23:28:00Z
Maximum Surface (likely estimated by SFMR) Wind Outbound: 44kts (~ 50.6mph) in the quadrant at 0:85
Remarks Section - Additional Remarks...
MAX SFC WND OUTBOUND 44 KTS, 085/03 NM FM FL CNTR, E QUAD, 23:28:00Z
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2076. wn1995 00:00 GMT le 20 août 2011    
Quoting Patrap:


Yeah, RIGHT on the coast there. Should inhibit it from intensifying or deepening a whole lot.
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2077. interstatelover7165 00:00 GMT le 20 août 2011    

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
800 PM EDT FRI AUG 19 2011

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER IS ISSUING ADVISORIES ON TROPICAL
STORM HARVEY...LOCATED ABOUT 130 MILES EAST OF ROATAN HONDURAS.

SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS HAVE BECOME BETTER ORGANIZED IN
ASSOCIATION WITH A LARGE TROPICAL WAVE LOCATED ABOUT 625 MILES EAST
OF THE LESSER ANTILLES. ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED TO BE
CONDUCIVE FOR A TROPICAL DEPRESSION TO FORM OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF
DAYS. THIS SYSTEM HAS A HIGH CHANCE...60 PERCENT...OF BECOMING A
TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS AS IT MOVES GENERALLY
WESTWARD AT 20 MPH. INTERESTS IN THE LEEWARD ISLANDS SHOULD
MONITOR THE PROGRESS OF THIS DISTURBANCE. LOCALLY HEAVY RAIN AND
GUSTY WINDS ARE LIKELY OVER THE LEEWARD ISLANDS LATE SATURDAY INTO
SUNDAY.

A LARGE BUT DISORGANIZED LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM IS CENTERED ABOUT 100
MILES SOUTHEAST OF THE CAPE VERDE ISLANDS. ALTHOUGH UPPER-LEVEL
WINDS ARE CURRENTLY FAVORABLE FOR SOME DEVELOPMENT...THIS SYSTEM IS
EXPECTED TO ENCOUNTER A MORE STABLE ENVIRONMENT WITH DRIER AIR BY
SUNDAY. THIS SYSTEM HAS A MEDIUM CHANCE...40 PERCENT...OF
BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS AS IT MOVES TO
THE WEST-NORTHWEST AT 10 TO 15 MPH. REGARDLESS OF DEVELOPMENT...
LOCALLY HEAVY RAIN AND STRONG GUSTY WINDS ARE POSSIBLE IN THE CAPE
VERDE ISLANDS TONIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$
FORECASTER BLAKE

8PM Advisory For ya.
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2078. Tazmanian 00:00 GMT le 20 août 2011    
97L is game on!
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2079. yesterway 00:01 GMT le 20 août 2011    
Quoting hotrods:
Just watch Brain Norcross on the weather channel, he said watch the trough as it digs down and then the pull for 97L towards the southeast if it plays out.


Yes..big dig = big pull
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2080. Inactivity 00:01 GMT le 20 août 2011    
Harvey down to 998 mb accordind to NHC.
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2081. hurricaneben 00:01 GMT le 20 août 2011    
POLL: what will 97L will be at as peak intensity?

a)TD
b)TS
c)CAT 1
d)CAT 2
e)Higher
f)INVEST
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2082. clwstmchasr 00:01 GMT le 20 août 2011    
Quoting Tazmanian:
97L is game on!


This is going to be the real deal for someone.
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2083. ecflweatherfan 00:02 GMT le 20 août 2011    
NHC gave 60%, I know several people including myself stated that it was going to be 60%. Congrats
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2084. Levi32 00:02 GMT le 20 août 2011    
Harvey's surface center remains southeast of the mid-level center as it was this morning, not vertically stacked. This will limit intensification, but the falling pressure should eventually result in an increase in winds, being that it is a small system, and it looks on course to be a 50-60mph tropical storm at landfall in Belize.
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2085. NICycloneChaser 00:02 GMT le 20 août 2011    
97L is looking very well organised. Wouldn't be suprised if it was a TD by the time it reaches the Islands. I think a slightly faster development could rule out a track into the GoM, though could still happen. Florida to the Carolinas is where I would look to at the minute.
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2087. yesterway 00:02 GMT le 20 août 2011    
Quoting Tazmanian:
97L is game on!


Please....
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2088. Clearwater1 00:02 GMT le 20 août 2011    
97l losing convection, but still, it has a very good signature on IR and visible.
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2089. stormhank 00:02 GMT le 20 août 2011    
Anyone feel 97 / Irene?? could possibly make it as far west as yucatan channel and get into GOM?? wouldnt be good condering the SST's in the gulf 85-87 deg
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2090. Tazmanian 00:02 GMT le 20 août 2011    
i think the 2am two will have the other wave no has 99L
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2091. tcbob8794 00:03 GMT le 20 août 2011    
The Weather Channel should show Jim Cantore doing a Rocky training montage for 97L.
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2092. WxLogic 00:03 GMT le 20 août 2011    
000
ABNT20 KNHC 192356
TWOAT

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
800 PM EDT FRI AUG 19 2011

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER IS ISSUING ADVISORIES ON TROPICAL
STORM HARVEY...LOCATED ABOUT 130 MILES EAST OF ROATAN HONDURAS.

SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS HAVE BECOME BETTER ORGANIZED IN
ASSOCIATION WITH A LARGE TROPICAL WAVE LOCATED ABOUT 625 MILES EAST
OF THE LESSER ANTILLES. ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED TO BE
CONDUCIVE FOR A TROPICAL DEPRESSION TO FORM OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF
DAYS. THIS SYSTEM HAS A HIGH CHANCE...60 PERCENT...OF BECOMING A
TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS AS IT MOVES GENERALLY
WESTWARD AT 20 MPH. INTERESTS IN THE LEEWARD ISLANDS SHOULD
MONITOR THE PROGRESS OF THIS DISTURBANCE. LOCALLY HEAVY RAIN AND
GUSTY WINDS ARE LIKELY OVER THE LEEWARD ISLANDS LATE SATURDAY INTO
SUNDAY.

A LARGE BUT DISORGANIZED LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM IS CENTERED ABOUT 100
MILES SOUTHEAST OF THE CAPE VERDE ISLANDS. ALTHOUGH UPPER-LEVEL
WINDS ARE CURRENTLY FAVORABLE FOR SOME DEVELOPMENT...THIS SYSTEM IS
EXPECTED TO ENCOUNTER A MORE STABLE ENVIRONMENT WITH DRIER AIR BY
SUNDAY. THIS SYSTEM HAS A MEDIUM CHANCE...40 PERCENT...OF
BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS AS IT MOVES TO
THE WEST-NORTHWEST AT 10 TO 15 MPH. REGARDLESS OF DEVELOPMENT...
LOCALLY HEAVY RAIN AND STRONG GUSTY WINDS ARE POSSIBLE IN THE CAPE
VERDE ISLANDS TONIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$
FORECASTER BLAKE
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2093. TropicalAnalystwx13 00:03 GMT le 20 août 2011    
Quoting Levi32:
Harvey's surface center remains southeast of the mid-level center as it was this morning, not vertically stacked. This will limit intensification, but the falling pressure should eventually result in an increase in winds, being that it is a small system, and it looks on course to be a 50-60mph tropical storm at landfall in Belize.


It's already at 50 mph...You don't think it will strengthen much more?

I think if it doesn't become a hurricane, it will be very close (65-70 mph).

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2094. IKE 00:03 GMT le 20 août 2011    
SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS HAVE BECOME BETTER ORGANIZED IN
ASSOCIATION WITH A LARGE TROPICAL WAVE LOCATED ABOUT 625 MILES EAST
OF THE LESSER ANTILLES. ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED TO BE
CONDUCIVE FOR A TROPICAL DEPRESSION TO FORM OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF
DAYS. THIS SYSTEM HAS A HIGH CHANCE...60 PERCENT...OF BECOMING A
TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS AS IT MOVES GENERALLY
WESTWARD AT 20 MPH. INTERESTS IN THE LEEWARD ISLANDS SHOULD
MONITOR THE PROGRESS OF THIS DISTURBANCE. LOCALLY HEAVY RAIN AND
GUSTY WINDS ARE LIKELY OVER THE LEEWARD ISLANDS LATE SATURDAY INTO
SUNDAY.
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2095. rv1pop 00:03 GMT le 20 août 2011    
Quoting stormwatcherCI:
I think the 50 Gal. containers are designed for storing water. A lot were used here after Ivan.
Just a quick rule of thumb re: plastic and food. If you leave plastic out in the sun for a month or so and it get brittle and cracks - chemicals leached out. If it had food in it, the food now has the chemicals. Out of the sun and cool much safer. (PVC pipe - not totally safe; CPVC pipe is safer.)
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2097. Gearsts 00:03 GMT le 20 août 2011    
Quoting hurricaneben:
POLL: what will 97L will be at as peak intensity?

a)TD
b)TS
c)CAT 1
d)CAT 2
e)Higher
f)INVEST
Cat 6
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2098. duajones78413 00:04 GMT le 20 août 2011    
What is the latest track forecast for 97?
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2099. interstatelover7165 00:04 GMT le 20 août 2011    
Either C, D, or E

Also, what's even the purpose of these so-called polls? What are they for, Info for the NHC?
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2100. PRweathercenter 00:05 GMT le 20 août 2011    
Quoting WeatherNerdPR:
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
800 PM EDT FRI AUG 19 2011

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER IS ISSUING ADVISORIES ON TROPICAL
STORM HARVEY...LOCATED ABOUT 130 MILES EAST OF ROATAN HONDURAS.

SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS HAVE BECOME BETTER ORGANIZED IN
ASSOCIATION WITH A LARGE TROPICAL WAVE LOCATED ABOUT 625 MILES EAST
OF THE LESSER ANTILLES. ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED TO BE
CONDUCIVE FOR A TROPICAL DEPRESSION TO FORM OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF
DAYS. THIS SYSTEM HAS A HIGH CHANCE...60 PERCENT...OF BECOMING A
TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS AS IT MOVES GENERALLY
WESTWARD AT 20 MPH. INTERESTS IN THE LEEWARD ISLANDS SHOULD
MONITOR THE PROGRESS OF THIS DISTURBANCE. LOCALLY HEAVY RAIN AND
GUSTY WINDS ARE LIKELY OVER THE LEEWARD ISLANDS LATE SATURDAY INTO
SUNDAY.

A LARGE BUT DISORGANIZED LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM IS CENTERED ABOUT 100
MILES SOUTHEAST OF THE CAPE VERDE ISLANDS. ALTHOUGH UPPER-LEVEL
WINDS ARE CURRENTLY FAVORABLE FOR SOME DEVELOPMENT...THIS SYSTEM IS
EXPECTED TO ENCOUNTER A MORE STABLE ENVIRONMENT WITH DRIER AIR BY
SUNDAY. THIS SYSTEM HAS A MEDIUM CHANCE...40 PERCENT...OF
BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS AS IT MOVES TO
THE WEST-NORTHWEST AT 10 TO 15 MPH. REGARDLESS OF DEVELOPMENT...
LOCALLY HEAVY RAIN AND STRONG GUSTY WINDS ARE POSSIBLE IN THE CAPE
VERDE ISLANDS TONIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$
FORECASTER BLAKE

Interesting
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2101. AegirsGal 00:05 GMT le 20 août 2011    
Quoting spathy:
Interesting.

based on the wind indicators, the coc is over land in that image, correct?
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