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Hurricane Irene slides toward Bahamas; Strong earthquake rattles eastern U.S.
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 21:57 GMT le 23 août 2011 +23
Hurricane Irene is a category 1 on the Saffir Simpson scale as of 5pm EDT, with maximum sustained winds of 90 mph and a minimum central pressure of 976 mb. Irene is moving to the west-northwest at 9 mph, and continues to impact Hispaniola. Satellite imagery shows a strong rain band continuing to linger over the eastern Dominican Republic on the southeast side of Irene, but wind speeds appear to have decreased substantially in the country since this morning. Winds are gusting to around 50 mph in the Turks and Caicos Islands this afternoon. Wind shear is currently around 10-20 knots in the vicinity, which could delay intensification over the next 48 hours. The strongest winds and thunderstorm activity remain on the northwest side, and the eye that was visible on satellite earlier today has become obscured by new thunderstorm activity near the center of the hurricane. The most recent Hurricane Hunter mission found a minimum central pressure of 978 mb and a large wind field. In their 2pm EDT fix, the National Hurricane Center estimated that tropical storm-force winds extended 180 nautical miles from the center in the northeast quadrant of the hurricane. A NOAA Gulfstream plane (Gonzo) is currently flying Irene and providing dropsonde data, something that was critical in gaining model consensus yesterday. A NOAA P-3 (Kermit) is also on its way to the hurricane to provide dropsonde data, as well.


Figure 1. Satellite imagery of Hurricane Irene at 4:45pm EDT. Image credit: NOAA.

Track forecast for Hurricane Irene
Models are in better agreement on the track forecast for Irene today, although the GFDL and HWRF continue to be the western outliers. Both of these models are forecasting Irene to make landfall near the Outer Banks of North Carolina on an almost due north track. The rest of the global models continue to slide every so slightly east in their forecast track, with some not making landfall until the hurricane is as far north as Long Island. This afternoon, the ECMWF, which has been performing well this season, forecasts Irene to brush the Outer Banks before sliding up the east coast toward New York. The official track forecast from the National Hurricane Center is similar this afternoon. They're expecting Irene to take a more central track through the Bahamas over the next 48 hours and make contact with the Outer Banks on Saturday afternoon, with a second landfall in New Jersey on Sunday afternoon. Again, it's critical to note that the errors in the track forecast 4 and 5 days out are quite large, and also that the consensus in the models over the past couple of days has been to nudge the track eastward, which can be seen in this track graphic archive.

Intensity forecast for Hurricane Irene
Despite the slight weakening that happened today, Irene is still expected to reach major hurricane status (category 3+) in the next 36 hours as it moves away from the Greater Antilles and into warm "open" water. The models tend to agree on a maximum intensity of category 3, however, the GFDL is the upper outlier, and is suggesting a category 4 on Friday. The intensity forecast from the National Hurricane Center is a wind speed increase to 125 mph (category 3) by Thursday. Irene will surely be a very intense hurricane by the time it nears the Mid-Atlantic.

Magnitude 5.8 earthquake rattles eastern U.S.

A relatively large and shallow earthquake struck the Mid-Atlantic just before 2pm EDT this afternoon, and shaking was felt up and down the east coast and as far west as Ohio. According to the United States Geological Survey (USGS), the epicenter was located 5 miles southwest of Mineral, Virginia, and was 3.7 miles deep—a very shallow earthquake. Buildings were evacuated all over the Mid-Atlantic, including the Pentagon, the White House, and NCEP, but have since been reopened. The National Cathedral in Washington D.C. was apparently significantly damaged in the earthquake. National Mall monuments and memorials have closed for the afternoon. Light aftershocks have been reported by people in the region, and the USGS has reported at least one aftershock (a 2.8 in magnitude).


Figure 2. "Did you feel it?" map from the USGS. Shaking reports from today's earthquake can be submitted to the USGS here.

This earthquake appears to be the strongest to occur in Virginia since May 31, 1897, when a magnitude 6 (approximately) struck Giles County. Reportedly, shaking was felt from Georgia to Pennsylvania and west to Indiana and Kentucky, which is an area that covers approximately 725,000 square miles. It's likely that this quake will have a similar extent when all the reports come in.

Angela
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2651. Bluestorm5 05:46 GMT le 24 août 2011    
NHC forecasting 85 mph hurricane over NYC...

It's 5 days away, however.
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2652. Ryuujin 05:46 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Quoting Levi32:
Vortex Data Message


000
URNT12 KNHC 240530
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE AL092011
A. 24/05:09:50Z
B. 21 deg 14 min N
072 deg 29 min W
C. 700 mb 2796 m
D. 77 kt
E. 305 deg 13 nm
F. 045 deg 91 kt
G. 306 deg 15 nm
H. 966 mb
I. 9 C / 3046 m
J. 16 C / 3047 m
K. 11 C / NA
L. CLOSED
M. C23

N. 12345 / 7
O. 0.02 / 2 nm
P. AF302 1109A IRENE OB 18
MAX OUTBOUND AND MAX FL WIND 92 KT SE QUAD 05:14:20Z


What's the last bolded part, Levi? The M. C23
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2653. OminousCloud 05:46 GMT le 24 août 2011    
295 degrees?? is this correct?
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2654. Levi32 05:46 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Repost: We're looking for deviations from the expected track, which have not occurred yet, but may soon if the center tracks over Inaguas.

Note: New 966mb vortex is just about on top of the dropsonde icon in the image, so it didn't move due west from the last fix.

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2655. VAbeachhurricanes 05:47 GMT le 24 août 2011    
will shift west again.

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2656. ecupirate 05:47 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Whats wrong with this picture.....

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2657. ConnecticutWXGuy 05:47 GMT le 24 août 2011    
By looking at the sat images and air pressure, and the wobbles which almost definitely a result of strengthening.... I'd say this system is about to get a lot more impressive.

Still not sure what some are seeing in terms of the models being wrong. The only real deviations I've seen from the general consensus has been wobbles due to the system fairly rapidly becoming more organized, as opposed to a mean long term direction.
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2658. VAbeachhurricanes 05:47 GMT le 24 août 2011    
GFDL running yet?
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2659. PrivateIdaho 05:47 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Quoting Levi32:
That's because it's not every day you get to see a Cat 1-2 hurricane on a model nailing New England and moving over eastern Long Island. This is a serious situation developing here if the track remains set up in this fashion. It's been a long time since New England has had one of these types of storms. The last one I believe was Gloria in 1985.


Gloria was forecast to hit NC if I remember correctly. We got some wind and rain and she nailed the New England states.
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2660. scCane 05:48 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Reposted pinhole eye



New edit: having trouble getting it to show up here's the link

Link
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2661. kylejourdan2006 05:48 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Quoting Ryuujin:


What's the last bolded part, Levi? The M. C23


That's the shape and size of the eye...in this case "C' for circular and 23 for 23 nautical miles in width...
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2662. Hou77083 05:48 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Hey Levi32
What are your thought on this?

Quoting OracleDeAtlantis:
If I might propose a hypothesis for what is happening with Irene, and her jog to the west.

Bernoulli's Principle
For an inviscid flow, an increase in the speed of the fluid occurs simultaneously with a decrease in pressure.

I think that Irene may be responding to the gap between Hispaniola and Cuba in much the same way. That air between these two islands is moving much faster, than the air moving over the top of these islands. Thus, there's an area of lower pressure between the two islands, and her low pressure core is drawn towards this, much like a trough. The gap between the two islands, is in effect ... acting as a giant wing of sorts.

Any thoughts?
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2663. ecflweatherfan 05:49 GMT le 24 août 2011    
The Inaguas are getting the snot beat out of them right now, sitting in that eyewall MUST be absolutely brutal.
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2664. Ryuujin 05:49 GMT le 24 août 2011    
I'm out for the night! Take care all
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2665. PrivateIdaho 05:49 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Quoting ecupirate:
Whats wrong with this picture.....



shes already south of the predicted tracks...not good.
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2666. NCHurricane2009 05:49 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Quoting AllStar17:


It is pretty much guaranteed to go over Great Inagua or Little Inagua at this point.


Well...I for one see that even if this goes to Great Inagua...that is a SLIGHT deviation to the west of model consensus...

...my benchmark is if this thing looks like it gets close to Abaco Island...that is more like a significant shift to the left...
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2667. Levi32 05:50 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Quoting Ryuujin:


What's the last bolded part, Levi? The M. C23


C = Circular. 23 = 23 numerical mile-wide eye.
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2668. alvarig1263 05:50 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Irene only 30 miles or 5,346,226.4 centimeters due east of Inaguas. lol Let's see what happens...

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2669. sullivanweather 05:50 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Levi,

LOL

We keep tabs on the years since the last hurricane here in the Northeast the same way a lifer in prison etches the number of years served into the cell wall...
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2670. Bluestorm5 05:51 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Quoting PrivateIdaho:


Gloria was forecast to hit NC if I remember correctly. We got some wind and rain and she nailed the New England states.


Yepper. Different path from Irene until Cape Hatteras.

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2671. BaltimoreBrian 05:51 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Quoting PrivateIdaho:


Gloria was forecast to hit NC if I remember correctly. We got some wind and rain and she nailed the New England states.


Gloria hit both. Cape Hatteras as 942 mb cane and Brookhaven, Long Island as a 961 mb cane.

A weather balloon was launched from Cape Hatteras in the eye, only the 4th time that has been done. And the last time I think. But I'm not sure.
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2672. NCHurricane2009 05:53 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Quoting sullivanweather:
Levi,

LOL

We keep tabs on the years since the last hurricane here in the Northeast the same way a lifer in prison etches the number of years served into the cell wall...


Which storm have you been counting the years from...Bob or Gloria?
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2673. VAbeachhurricanes 05:53 GMT le 24 août 2011    
GFDL: 6hrs
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2674. Bluestorm5 05:53 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Quoting Levi32:
Repost: We're looking for deviations from the expected track, which have not occurred yet, but may soon if the center tracks over Inaguas.

Note: New 966mb vortex is just about on top of the dropsonde icon in the image, so it didn't move due west from the last fix.

Looking at satellite images, the eye seems to be moving more west toward that area of water between Little Inaguas and main Inaguas. Any thoughts?
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2675. MiamiHurricanes09 05:54 GMT le 24 août 2011    
90L up to 40%. Could become a tropical depression pretty soon.
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2676. mrjr101 05:54 GMT le 24 août 2011    
TWC just announced she's CAT 2, 100mph
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2677. PrivateIdaho 05:55 GMT le 24 août 2011    
I've been to quite a few islands in the Bahamas.

Man I'd be s--t'n bricks if I was on one of those flat little rocks tonight.
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2678. ecupirate 05:55 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Quoting Bluestorm5:
Looking at satellite images, the eye seems to be moving more west toward that area of water between Little Inaguas and main Inaguas. Any thoughts?


IMO its just a wobble and not a course change. It does seem that Irene may pass closer over Nassau now.
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2679. VAbeachhurricanes 05:55 GMT le 24 août 2011    
GFDL: 12hrs
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2680. Grothar 05:55 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Looks like western Cuba may get some bad weather if this stays west a little longer.

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2681. Levi32 05:56 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Quoting Hou77083:
Hey Levi32
What are your thought on this?

Quoting OracleDeAtlantis:
If I might propose a hypothesis for what is happening with Irene, and her jog to the west.

Bernoulli's Principle
For an inviscid flow, an increase in the speed of the fluid occurs simultaneously with a decrease in pressure.

I think that Irene may be responding to the gap between Hispaniola and Cuba in much the same way. That air between these two islands is moving much faster, than the air moving over the top of these islands. Thus, there's an area of lower pressure between the two islands, and her low pressure core is drawn towards this, much like a trough. The gap between the two islands, is in effect ... acting as a giant wing of sorts.

Any thoughts?


An interesting theory, but the amount of land lining the gap is extremely tiny (just the two points of each island), and most of the flow is actually northwesterly, mostly passing over Cuba before reaching the channel between the islands. The geography there doesn't support the channeling of the wind like he's suggesting, even if it were directly out of the north. You would need an elongated barrier on both sides.
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2682. ecflweatherfan 05:56 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Quoting NCHurricane2009:


Well...I for one see that even if this goes to Great Inagua...that is a SLIGHT deviation to the west of model consensus...

...my benchmark is if this thing looks like it gets close to Abaco Island...that is more like a significant shift to the left...


Did you mean Abaco or Andros... Abaco is the northeastern most island in the Bahamas, just east of Grand Bahama Island. Andros is the largest one, ESE of Miami.

It has a long way to go to get to either.
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2683. whitewabit (Mod) 05:56 GMT le 24 août 2011    
decoded vortex message

Product: Air Force Vortex Message (URNT12 KNHC)
Transmitted: 24th day of the month at 05:30Z
Aircraft: Air Force Aircraft (Last 3 digits of the tail number are 302)
Storm Number & Year: 09L in 2011
Storm Name: Irene (flight in the North Atlantic basin)
Mission Number: 11
Observation Number: 18
A. Time of Center Fix: 24th day of the month at 5:09:50Z
B. Center Fix Coordinates: 21°14'N 72°29'W (21.2333N 72.4833W) (View map)
B. Center Fix Location: 88 miles (142 km) to the W (260°) from Cockburn Town, Turks and Caicos Islands (GBR).
C. Minimum Height at Standard Level: 2,796m (9,173ft) at 700mb
D. Estimated (by SFMR or visually) Maximum Surface Wind: 77kts (~ 88.6mph)
E. Location of the Estimated Maximum Surface Wind: 13 nautical miles (15 statute miles) to the NW (305°) of center fix
F. Maximum Flight Level Wind Inbound: From 45° at 91kts (From the NE at ~ 104.7mph)
G. Location of Maximum Flight Level Wind Inbound: 15 nautical miles (17 statute miles) to the NW (306°) of center fix
H. Minimum Sea Level Pressure: 966mb (28.53 inHg)
I. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Outside Eye: 9°C (48°F) at a pressure alt. of 3,046m (9,993ft)
J. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Inside Eye: 16°C (61°F) at a pressure alt. of 3,047m (9,997ft)
K. Dewpoint Temp (collected at same location as temp inside eye): 11°C (52°F)
K. Sea Surface Temp (collected at same location as temp inside eye): Not Available
L. Eye Character: Closed
M. Eye Shape & Diameter: Circular with a diameter of 23 nautical miles (26 statute miles)
N. Fix Determined By: Penetration, Radar, Wind, Pressure and Temperature
N. Fix Level: 700mb
O. Navigation Fix Accuracy: 0.02 nautical miles
O. Meteorological Accuracy: 2 nautical miles
Remarks Section:
Maximum Wind Outbound: 92kts (~ 105.9mph) in the southeast quadrant at 5:14:20Z
Maximum Flight Level Wind: 92kts (~ 105.9mph) in the southeast quadrant at 5:14:20Z
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2684. traumaboyy 05:56 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Quoting PrivateIdaho:
I've been to quite a few islands in the Bahamas.

Man I'd be s--t'n bricks if I was on one of those flat little rocks tonight.


Amen!!
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2685. Stormchaser2007 05:57 GMT le 24 août 2011    
00z ECMWF is ready to go.

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2686. emguy 05:57 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Upper level low off the coast of the Carolinas has one of 2 impacts. 1.) Nothing, if it is sheared out and obsorbed by that digging trough, which would result in Irene maintaining a somewhat similar path. 2.) A southerly track. Perfect example would be a good one pattern wise, but a poor one geographically. In 1988, while departing the Yacatan, a cut off low was over Houston, TX, and Hurricane Gilbert gained lattitude due to it, but went south of that cutoff due to the established ridge over the storm. Similar pattern here, no diving, sweeping, clear the deck troughs, just and erosion of the ridge with a cutoff low wild card...
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2687. sullivanweather 05:57 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Quoting NCHurricane2009:


Which storm have you been counting the years from...Bob or Gloria?



I lived in The Bronx for Gloria. I was only 4 but I remember some of the storm; mostly losing the crab apple tree in front of our apartment. There were also trees down in the yard of my day-care.

I moved to Middletown, NY Dec '87 and was there for Bob in 1991. We got some tropical storm force winds on the backside of the storm and about four inches of rain but that's all.
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2688. VAbeachhurricanes 05:57 GMT le 24 août 2011    
GFDL 24hrs.

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2689. winter123 05:58 GMT le 24 août 2011    
When you're waiting for a northerly turn, "wobbles" are more than just wobbles, they could possibly affect the entire future track of the storm! Long live wobblecasters! :D

I believe this wobble west was significant enough to shift the entire track of irene a 5-10 miles west.
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2690. Levi32 05:58 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Quoting Bluestorm5:
Looking at satellite images, the eye seems to be moving more west toward that area of water between Little Inaguas and main Inaguas. Any thoughts?


It's difficult to see very short-term motions of a developing eye on IR imagery, as the top of the eyewall is undergoing fluctuations, causing the center of the eye to not always be where the exact surface center is. We're kind of picking on insignificant details here, but we will just have to wait and see how long the WNW motion lasts and if the turn occurs where the models say it should. I've seen it happen both ways before.
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2691. Jackp0t789 05:59 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Amateur here, but from what it looks like, the HWRF is almost a spot on match for the NWS predicted path. Though a shift from last nights run's of around this time when it was nailing Wilmington NC.
Any comments on this?

Also, one thing i've noticed from lurking here and other forums for the past few winters and hurricane seasons is that this far out, the models usually have a good general idea for where the storm will go this far out.
In the last few days we saw a massive shift east, sparing Florida, Georgia, and possibly even South Carolina the worst of it. What i've noticed is that most of the runs today were also east, but not as drastic. I originally had a hunch that the models would correct to the west a bit tomorrow, and seeing the length of Irene's western wobles i have more confidence in that, but for all i know tomorrow i'll find myself mistaken.

What are your thoughts on this, as i said, im just making educated guesses here, and as an amateur i dont know how educated those guesses are haha.
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2692. philliesrock 05:59 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Why am I up? Anyway, live updates for the Euro are coming soon...
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2693. dewfree 05:59 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Irene slowed down watch out for alittle westward jog next 12 hours . still think fartherest to west track
most likely
I havent posted in two three years lol see ya
dew
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2694. Bluestorm5 06:00 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Quoting Levi32:


It's difficult to see very short-term motions of a developing eye on IR imagery, as the top of the eyewall is undergoing fluctuations, causing the center of the eye to not always be where the exact surface center is. We're kind of picking on insignificant details here, but we will just have to wait and see how long the WNW motion lasts and if the turn occurs where the models say it should. I've seen it happen both ways before.
oh ok. Just hope these islanders are okay.
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2695. Titoxd 06:00 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Quoting WeafhermanNimmy:


Where did you get that?


http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/CI-chart.html
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2696. NCHurricane2009 06:00 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Quoting ecflweatherfan:


Did you mean Abaco or Andros... Abaco is the northeastern most island in the Bahamas, just east of Grand Bahama Island. Andros is the largest one, ESE of Miami.

It has a long way to go to get to either.


**smack to the forehead**

yes...I meant ANDROS island...it that somehwat larger island toward SE Florida...
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2697. VAbeachhurricanes 06:00 GMT le 24 août 2011    
GFDL 30hrs:
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2698. ecflweatherfan 06:01 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Curiosity here, but that upper Low off the SE US coast, didn't that stem from a MCS over the Gulf Stream on Monday morning? I know it was a huge cluster, stretching from SC to NE FL... from which, an outflow boundary propogated SW into central FL, sparked a Severe Thunderstorm Warning here in Brevard County, along with a Flood Advisory in the afternoon. Hmmm...
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2699. CarolinaHurricanes87 06:01 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Quoting VAbeachhurricanes:
GFDL: 12hrs


Very interested to see this run
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2700. PrivateIdaho 06:01 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Quoting Levi32:


An interesting theory, but the amount of land lining the gap is extremely tiny (just the two points of each island), and most of the flow is actually northwesterly, mostly passing over Cuba before reaching the channel between the islands. The geography there doesn't support the channeling of the wind like he's suggesting, even if it were directly out of the north. You would need an elongated barrier on both sides.


I agree with you completely but I also think that the affects of land masses on the movement (and intensity)of these storms is poorly understood.
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2701. AllStar17 06:01 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Quoting NCHurricane2009:


**smack to the forehead**

yes...I meant ANDROS island...it that somehwat larger island toward SE Florida...


If it went that far south and west that is a GINORMOUS shift in track. That would guarantee a landfall in GA/SC/or S. NC
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