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Category 3 Hurricane Irene tracks northwest through the Bahamas
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 20:55 GMT le 24 août 2011 +35
Hurricane Irene remains a powerful category 3 this afternoon, with maximum sustained winds of 120 mph. Irene is moving northwest through the Bahamas at 12 mph, and its center has cleared the northern edge of Crooked Island. The next islands in the path of Irene are Rum Cay (population 80) and Cat Island (population 1700), which it will encounter later tonight. Irene will track northeast of Long Island (in the Bahamas) over the next 24 hours. George Town has been reporting wind gusts up to around 40 mph this afternoon, and wind speed will likely increase during the next 12 hours as Irene's center passes about 30-40 miles to their northeast. Long Island in the Bahamas will likely see category 1 winds, which begin at 74 mph. Shelters on New Providence and Grand Bahama are open and ready for business, and Grand Bahama International Airport will remain closed until Irene passes.

Irene continues to look well-organized on satellite, especially compared to yesterday afternoon. Since then, intense upward motion, and therefore strong thunderstorm activity, has encompassed the center on all sides, which has led to a well-defined eye. Throughout the morning, Irene's eye wall has shrunk, and a new eye wall could be developing, although it remains unclear at this point. If this is the case, it could lead to some temporary weakening of the hurricane, which would be good for the Bahamas. This afternoon, Irene's hurricane-force winds extend 50 miles from the center, and tropical storm-force winds extend up to 205 miles from the center. Earlier this morning, an Air Force Hurricane Hunter mission investigated Irene and a NOAA Gulfstream (Gonzo) is currently collecting data around the hurricane.


Figure 1. Microwave satellite imagery of Irene captured at 8am this morning. Image source: Naval Research Laboratory.

Track forecast for Irene
NOAA has continued dropsonde missions today, scouring the atmosphere for data as far north as the waters off of South Carolina. Every bit of upper-air data that the models can ingest will lead to better forecasts and decreased uncertainty. These missions are an investment that pay off. Irene will track through the central Bahamas today, the northwestern Bahamas on Thursday, and approach the Outer Banks of North Carolina on Friday. Beyond this there is a bit of divergence in the models. Both the GFDL and the HWRF are forecasting a landfall on Long Island, New York, and the ECMWF continues to suggest a landfall even further west than that. NOGAPS is still the eastern outlier, which misses the U.S. all together and makes landfall in Canada. Today the official track forecast from the National Hurricane Center agrees with the GFS forecast through Saturday morning, and then diverges ever so slightly to the west of that through Monday. It has become clear over the past 3 days that everyone on the East Coast from North Carolina to Maine should be prepared to feel impacts from Hurricane Irene.


Figure 2. Official track forecast provided by the National Hurricane Center.

Intensity forecast for Irene
Irene continues to be embedded in a large envelope of moisture, and wind shear is expected to remain low to moderate, 5 - 20 knots, for the next three days. With water temperatures very warm, 28 - 30°C, these conditions should allow for intensification to a category 4 hurricane (winds of 131 to 155 mph). The only reliable model that's not forecasting this intensification is the GFS, and this is likely due to its relatively course spatial resolution. The National Hurricane Center expects Irene to intensify to a category 4 tomorrow, with a decrease in intensity back to a category 3 on Friday.

Links
For those of you wanting to know your odds of receiving hurricane force or tropical storm force winds, check out the NHC wind probability product.

Wunderground has detailed storm surge maps for the U.S. coast.

Our Wundermap is also a great resource for tracking hurricanes, with the ability to turn on multiple layers of data, including satellite, official track forecast, and current weather observations from not only the U.S. but the Caribbean and Bahamas, as well. Here's a link to get you started.

Angela
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501. drg0dOwnCountry 22:43 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Quoting DallasGumby:
This "exceptional record shattering drought" is nothing compared to the long-term droughts of the 1930s and 1950s. Have you ever heard of the Dust Bowl?

My dad used to tell me stories about the 1950s drought - it was so dry, they never drained dishwater after washing dishes. Instead, they used the dirty water to water their flowers.

It was the decade-long drought of the 1950s which caused Dallas city leaders to be very long-term looking (100 years or so) in water planning, which is why we have so many reservoirs across North and East Texas to supply drinking water.

And, if you want to talk about just one summer - 1980, at least so far, was worse than this summer. Although this summer is giving 1980 a run for the money.


DallasGumby your dad's stories are nice stories that is, but when it comes to statistics, empirical data, facts and science your memory is a pretty weak indicator. Anyway we facing now a potential record shattering (impact wise) hurricane approaching the US coast. Good luck to you guys in Dallas and the rest of Texas with your drought, you need it!
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502. RevInFL 22:43 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Quoting Grandpato4:
Good news all around for most of NC. I talked to my daughter in Raleigh and they only have a 30% chance of tropical storm winds and are expected to get less than 1/2 inch of rain. Here in Atlantic Beach we may get gusts to 50 mph. The waves will be big, but I am confident the dune will hold.
Glad to hear it Grandpa. Just keep being vigilant.
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503. JonClaw 22:43 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Quoting nrtiwlnvragn:
Last four GFS, 18Z in red




Hopefully not the beginning of a trend westward...
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504. JeffM 22:43 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Quoting Bluestorm5:
not anymore... MAJOR changes is what I'm hearing now. GFS shifted west by 50 miles.... I would get out of Atlantic Beach tomorrow.


I agree. Living right on the water like that with a potential Cat 4 heading your way, no thanks.
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505. WeatherNerdPR 22:43 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Quoting nrtiwlnvragn:
Last four GFS, 18Z in red



That 18Z GFS is almost identical to the current NHC track.
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506. IceCoast 22:43 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Last 4 GFS runs. The consistency is pretty scary for New England.
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507. lottotexas 22:44 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Quoting DallasGumby:
This "exceptional record shattering drought" is nothing compared to the long-term droughts of the 1930s and 1950s. Have you ever heard of the Dust Bowl?

My dad used to tell me stories about the 1950s drought - it was so dry, they never drained dishwater after washing dishes. Instead, they used the dirty water to water their flowers.

It was the decade-long drought of the 1950s which caused Dallas city leaders to be very long-term looking (100 years or so) in water planning, which is why we have so many reservoirs across North and East Texas to supply drinking water.

And, if you want to talk about just one summer - 1980, at least so far, was worse than this summer. Although this summer is giving 1980 a run for the money.
+1000
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508. Orcasystems 22:44 GMT le 24 août 2011    




1 Bird Bent.... 2 on task
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510. bwat 22:44 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Quoting hurricaneben:
Is there any chance Irene might do a Jeanne-like loop and threaten Florida East Coast???
No expert, but I would say very doubtful. from what i've learned she is gonna follow the western edge of the bermuda high up to the weakness in the ridge created by the troughs. Path of least resistance is where they will head, just like electricity. The key now is seeing exactly where that "least resistant" path sets up.
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511. kmanislander 22:44 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Quoting TruthCommish:


Is english his first language? If not, our tax dollars are being wasted. I'm NOT joking here.


Taz has been on this blog for years and those of us that have been here with him understand him. If you do not know anything about someone you should be slow to criticize. It is both unkind and unnecessarily hurtful.
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513. presslord 22:45 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Quoting kmanislander:


Taz has been on this blog for years and those of us that have been here with him understand him. If you do not know anything about someone you should be slow to criticize. It is both unkind and unnecessarily hurtful.


+1
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515. Levi32 22:45 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Quoting Alockwr21:


Would an EWRC generally drive her more west? or just depends?


In the post you quoted I opened by saying it was not a major influence on her track. Inner core dynamics do play a role in short-term wobbles, but those are not terribly important except for when the eye is close to land masses. It may be important for Nassau in case Irene takes a short wobble closer to the island due to the inner core changes.
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516. tiggeriffic 22:45 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Quoting TruthCommish:


Is english his first language? If not, our tax dollars are being wasted. I'm NOT joking here.


Tax Dollars hard at work list of words:

RESPECT
COMMON DECENTCY
EMPATHY
HUMANISTIC
TOLERABLE
and last but not least....trying not to be a JACKASS!!!
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518. NICycloneChaser 22:45 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Quoting Bluestorm5:
NHC just said that amp. though is causing 100 miles shift to west in Irene's track... am I'm being stupid or I'm right, anyone? I don't want to jump the gun.


The European model certainly showed a shift. However, most of that shift occurs after NC. It is a little closer to the NC coast though.
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519. presslord 22:46 GMT le 24 août 2011    
...ah....actually...it's spelled 'peace'...
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520. Xyrus2000 22:46 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Quoting cat5hurricane:

Yep. They'll find any reason to pin this on climate change. Any reason. Nothing new there.


I would like to point out, once again, that only those who DON'T understand climatology attempt to pin any one meteorological event on climate change.

A record drought is meteorological. An active hurricane season is meteorological. Abnormal cold and snow in the winter is meteorological. It's only when those conditions continue for years, decades, or longer that climatology becomes relevant.

So when you here people screaming on TV or the internet that X event proves that the global warming is real/not real, ignore them. They don't know what they're talking about.
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521. cutgr 22:46 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Quoting WHATAJOKEAGAIN:
PAST 7 DAYS FORCAST FOR IRENE :
last thursday : irene hitting the florida keys (wrong)last friday irene hitting miami ( wrong)
last friday night : irene hitting melbourne florida ( wrong)
saturday moning : irene running up the florida coast hitting jacksonville florida ( wrong)
last sunday morning: irene now hitting georgia ( wrong)
sunday night : irenen now hitting south carolina ( wrong)
monday morning : irene hitting north carolina inland ( wrong)
monday night : irene hitting north carolina coast only ( wrong might just graze the outer banks now
tuesday morning : irenen gonna hit west jersey inland ( wrong )
tuesday night : irene now might scrap long island and stay off jersey coast lmao this whole forcast has been a total joke to just stimulate the economy all up the coast home deopt and walmart are the weather channels big sponsors and they do this crap every year having a storm hitting 20 different spot up the east coast


i happen to be glad that they have been wrong.i dont want it hitting here in SC nor do i want to see it destroy other peoples lives as well.
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522. tiggeriffic 22:46 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Quoting OceanMoan:
Hey Tiggerific, do you know what day the waves are supposed to be the biggest at Folly Beach? My son wants to go see them again.


start friday...biggest saturday, esp during high tide... upwards of 7 ft or higher
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523. Cayman2010 22:46 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Quoting presslord:

surely you don't think that's coincidental

Seems to be regular scheduling - so yes, would appear to be coincidental.
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525. StormJunkie 22:46 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Quoting OceanMoan:
Hey Tiggerific, do you know what day the waves are supposed to be the biggest at Folly Beach? My son wants to go see them again.


Should be Fri afternoon, and in to Saturday we see the water come close to the road at Washout. I would try and time it with a incoming/high tide during that time range.


Uhh, err...What tigger said ;)
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527. NICycloneChaser 22:46 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Quoting kmanislander:


Taz has been on this blog for years and those of us that have been here with him understand him. If you do not know anything about someone you should be slow to criticize. It is both unkind and unnecessarily hurtful.


Very well put.
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528. Patrap 22:46 GMT le 24 août 2011    



Portlight past missions of relief:

Hurricane Ike

TS Fay

Haiti Earthquake

S. Carolina Fires

Yazoo City Tornado

Joplin Tornado

Help up Help others as Irene poses a threat to millions downstream this week.

We had a conference call last night and with a preliminary plan in place we expect to be involved in immediate relief efforts as they are identifeied and relayed to us post Storm.


www.portlight.org
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529. MississippiWx 22:47 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Quoting kmanislander:


Taz has been on this blog for years and those of us that have been here with him understand him. If you do not know anything about someone you should be slow to criticize. It is both unkind and unnecessarily hurtful.


+1
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531. Nimitz 22:47 GMT le 24 août 2011    
What's the chances of Irene causing major damage to NYC and Long Island? I've seen the doomsday shows on TV about a direct hit and storm surge, but not sure if it translates well to reality. Not, repeat, NOT a doomcaster, just curious.
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532. hunkerdown 22:47 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Quoting odinslightning:
Irene went through the eastern Hebert didn't she?
and it matters why ?
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533. MNhockeymama 22:47 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Quoting Remek:


Um, how about ranting about the difference between the two school and district administrations' planning and handling of the situations before blindly blaming the Feds?

If DC is waiting for Fed/FEMA management, that's their own fault and somewhat an indication of their incompetence over Joplin's people and accomplishments.


Sorry, I guess that's what I was trying to point out - the difference between the resilience of the Joplin people vs. the DC people. I could also compare the Joplin people to the N. Mpls people who, DURING the tornado in April, didn't wait for it to leave the ground before they started LOOTING and then were P.O.'d when FEMA refused them individual help for the damage the tornado did to a couple of blocks of the community. These same people harassed the linemen restoring power - cursed them for not getting there sooner and called them very derogatory names (the guys working said it was the worst place they'd ever worked and many had worked lots of storms all over the country including Katrina, Ike, Rita, etc.). Lots of people in the US could learn from the good folks in Joplin about self-reliance & helping one's neighbor.
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534. kmanislander 22:48 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Quoting presslord:
...ah....actually...it's spelled 'peace'...


You beat me to it
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535. presslord 22:48 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Jesus, Mary and Joseph, people...the storm ain't goin' west....NOT GOIN" WEST...if this and if that...it ain't goin' west...
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536. stormpetrol 22:48 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Quoting kmanislander:


Taz has been on this blog for years and those of us that have been here with him understand him. If you do not know anything about someone you should be slow to criticize. It is both unkind and unnecessarily hurtful.

+100
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537. MississippiWx 22:48 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Luckily Angela is around somewhere. About to be some banning.
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538. Mucinex 22:48 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Quoting MNhockeymama:

That's why a lot of the grid in FL is now made up of cement poles. They won't go to hurricane in FL 'cause there is little work usually afterward.
No worries on the safety issue - they're very good, very safe linemen. Been working the tornadoes up here in the Midwest this summer, and my husband was at Ike, too, so they're pretty well-versed in the biz & will be careful.
Much better work than the winter-stuff here, that's for sure! And the OT (and NY payscale) isn't bad, either. :) Other than the meteorologists and media, linemen are probably the only people who get a little excited when they see the hurricanes coming across the ocean, but they pray for the only damage to happen to power-lines & not people, you know?

Yeah, these were 100 foot concrete poles, but like I was saying that was a cat5 and those kind of poles and lines are replaced and worked on by helicopter. I don't think high transmission lines will be that damaged from Irene.
Last time Irene was here (1999) I watched a one-man crew drive up a flooded street with water up to the bottom of trucks cab while arcing live power lines whipped through the water. That guy climbed out the truck window and got that power turned off in under 10 minutes. Lineman are some of the bravest people out there. Best wishes to your family.
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540. tiggeriffic 22:49 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Quoting lurkster:


Is English your first language? I believe that word is spelled piece. If you need help just ask us.


actually PIECE is a part of something, PEACE is what brings comfort...guess the commish's tax dollars were wasted as well
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541. weatherwart 22:49 GMT le 24 août 2011    
kman, how strong are your winds down there?
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542. Remek 22:49 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Quoting kmanislander:


Taz has been on this blog for years and those of us that have been here with him understand him. If you do not know anything about someone you should be slow to criticize. It is both unkind and unnecessarily hurtful.


Taz just needs a simple disclaimer - "My English ain't perfect...deal with it"

I really do appreciate what he posts, and regret sort of making a joke about one of his quickie-posts earlier. :(
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543. HurricaneDean07 22:49 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Irene is a beautiful hurricane right now, but where's her eye going? EWRC? Or Weakening(LOL, Doubt it)?
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544. 800733 22:49 GMT le 24 août 2011    
cam anyone post a good link to the modles

thanks =)
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546. trey33 22:49 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Quoting tiggeriffic:


actually PIECE is a part of something, PEACE is what brings comfort...guess the commish's tax dollars were wasted as well


ouch! lol.....
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548. lurkster 22:50 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Quoting presslord:
...ah....actually...it's spelled 'peace'...


My point exactly. Thanks.
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549. weatherwart 22:50 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Quoting HurricaneDean07:
Irene is a beautiful hurricane right now, but where's her eye going? EWRC? Or Weakening(LOL, Doubt it)?



Looks like EWRC to me, but I could be wrong.
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550. oakland 22:50 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Quoting kmanislander:


Taz has been on this blog for years and those of us that have been here with him understand him. If you do not know anything about someone you should be slow to criticize. It is both unkind and unnecessarily hurtful.


+1
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551. oddspeed 22:50 GMT le 24 août 2011    
Quoting 800733:
cam anyone post a good link to the modles

thanks =)


sure models
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