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Category 3 Hurricane Irene tracks northwest through the Bahamas
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 20:55 GMT le 24 août 2011 +35
Hurricane Irene remains a powerful category 3 this afternoon, with maximum sustained winds of 120 mph. Irene is moving northwest through the Bahamas at 12 mph, and its center has cleared the northern edge of Crooked Island. The next islands in the path of Irene are Rum Cay (population 80) and Cat Island (population 1700), which it will encounter later tonight. Irene will track northeast of Long Island (in the Bahamas) over the next 24 hours. George Town has been reporting wind gusts up to around 40 mph this afternoon, and wind speed will likely increase during the next 12 hours as Irene's center passes about 30-40 miles to their northeast. Long Island in the Bahamas will likely see category 1 winds, which begin at 74 mph. Shelters on New Providence and Grand Bahama are open and ready for business, and Grand Bahama International Airport will remain closed until Irene passes.

Irene continues to look well-organized on satellite, especially compared to yesterday afternoon. Since then, intense upward motion, and therefore strong thunderstorm activity, has encompassed the center on all sides, which has led to a well-defined eye. Throughout the morning, Irene's eye wall has shrunk, and a new eye wall could be developing, although it remains unclear at this point. If this is the case, it could lead to some temporary weakening of the hurricane, which would be good for the Bahamas. This afternoon, Irene's hurricane-force winds extend 50 miles from the center, and tropical storm-force winds extend up to 205 miles from the center. Earlier this morning, an Air Force Hurricane Hunter mission investigated Irene and a NOAA Gulfstream (Gonzo) is currently collecting data around the hurricane.


Figure 1. Microwave satellite imagery of Irene captured at 8am this morning. Image source: Naval Research Laboratory.

Track forecast for Irene
NOAA has continued dropsonde missions today, scouring the atmosphere for data as far north as the waters off of South Carolina. Every bit of upper-air data that the models can ingest will lead to better forecasts and decreased uncertainty. These missions are an investment that pay off. Irene will track through the central Bahamas today, the northwestern Bahamas on Thursday, and approach the Outer Banks of North Carolina on Friday. Beyond this there is a bit of divergence in the models. Both the GFDL and the HWRF are forecasting a landfall on Long Island, New York, and the ECMWF continues to suggest a landfall even further west than that. NOGAPS is still the eastern outlier, which misses the U.S. all together and makes landfall in Canada. Today the official track forecast from the National Hurricane Center agrees with the GFS forecast through Saturday morning, and then diverges ever so slightly to the west of that through Monday. It has become clear over the past 3 days that everyone on the East Coast from North Carolina to Maine should be prepared to feel impacts from Hurricane Irene.


Figure 2. Official track forecast provided by the National Hurricane Center.

Intensity forecast for Irene
Irene continues to be embedded in a large envelope of moisture, and wind shear is expected to remain low to moderate, 5 - 20 knots, for the next three days. With water temperatures very warm, 28 - 30°C, these conditions should allow for intensification to a category 4 hurricane (winds of 131 to 155 mph). The only reliable model that's not forecasting this intensification is the GFS, and this is likely due to its relatively course spatial resolution. The National Hurricane Center expects Irene to intensify to a category 4 tomorrow, with a decrease in intensity back to a category 3 on Friday.

Links
For those of you wanting to know your odds of receiving hurricane force or tropical storm force winds, check out the NHC wind probability product.

Wunderground has detailed storm surge maps for the U.S. coast.

Our Wundermap is also a great resource for tracking hurricanes, with the ability to turn on multiple layers of data, including satellite, official track forecast, and current weather observations from not only the U.S. but the Caribbean and Bahamas, as well. Here's a link to get you started.

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1152. Gorty 00:19 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting streamtracker:


I live in Pioneer Valley of western MA next to a creek that has exceeded its 100 flood level twice in the last 4 years. Water never made it as far as the house, but got very close. Not taking any chances with this storm.

I bought grain sacs to make 100 sand bags today. Nobody else around here seems to be very concerned. I've studied the 1938 storm and know how bad it can get in NE.

If the track remains to the W, I expect panic to set in around Friday afternoon or so.

Let's hope for the best and prepare for the worst.


Even people further south and along the coast are not concerned... some are but not everyone. Not just water but also strong damaging winds.
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1153. MrstormX 00:19 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Fresh 18z DGEX, not sure people in the East realize what they could be up against. Media attention is mainly on Libya and the Earthquake, and the Irene articles are often outdated or hard to find:



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1154. PRweathercenter 00:19 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting Levi32:
What's really concerning about Irene is how from Day 1 every global model has failed to weaken the storm after hitting the outer banks, at least not nearly as much as hurricanes usually do after moving north of 35N up the eastern seaboard. The fact that this has been consistent for over a week now means that the warmer than normal water and the phasing with the trough over southeast Canada will maintain the hurricane for a much longer time than forecasters would typically expect. The NHC is following the models on this one and forecasting Irene to maintain Cat 2 status as she moves into Long Island. I agree with this and it would be a devastating storm if it does so. This is the kind of storm that will hold together until it hits Long Island, and will be extremely large by that time. If the track holds along the coast and into New York, this could go down as one of the great names on the list of the most destructive New England storms in the last 6 decades.
that's a scary thought
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1155. Levi32 00:19 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting twincomanche:
If you just got on Levi Joe B. was just on O'Reilly saying that because the water was so warm it will be cat 3 or 4 as it goes past NC and therefore weakening much slower than the consensus.


I don't know about a Cat 4 at North Carolina, but farther up the coast this will certainly be stronger than normal for a system taking this path.
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1159. Patrap 00:20 GMT le 25 août 2011    
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1161. tiggeriffic 00:20 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting wxobsvps:
SC/NC needs to still remain aware of Irene. And even coastal FL may feel the western fringes.


our local met said today that if irene followed the center line she would be about 175 miles off the coast of Charleston on Saturday...if she is already 0ver 200 miles out from center...well...that means we get some wind...not the strongest Thank God...but a wobble either way can make a difference...so yes i am watching
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1162. TruthCommish 00:20 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting FLdewey:


People in Florida are watching TV and eating popcorn.

No nerves... must be zen.


Some of us are watching the Little League World Series on ESPN. These kids play some great baseball. No popcorn, just some nice fresh pineapple from publix.
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1163. atmosweather 00:20 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting Patrap:


Outer eyewall seems to be wrapping around the inner core of Irene now. Later tonight she will clear out her new eye and take aim at Category 4 strength.
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1164. robj144 00:21 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting Abacosurf:
I was in the eye right when that frame was taken of Floyd.

That's pretty f-in cool.


Wow, how was that? Weren't the winds 155 mph at that point?
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1165. Dirtleg 00:21 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Relax Taz.. It's the internet. I can find out anything about anyone. So are you saying we're NOT invited for a generator party?
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1166. Patrap 00:21 GMT le 25 août 2011    


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1167. victoriahurricane 00:21 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting Torgen:


I never had to make a blog entry, but may have had to log in and out. Been a while, and wasn't really momentous enough to remember. ;)

Weather-wise, been getting strong rain bands every day here east of Tampa, even when the rain chance is 30%, and glad to not have to water the tiny veggie seedlings. Gonna cut back on non-essentials at the grocery store so we can send $25 to Bahamas relief.


Bravo!
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1168. dipchip 00:21 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Over the past 3 hours the storm has moved North .4 degrees and .3 degrees to the west. That is north of a NW track or 325. 10 degrees north of northwest.
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1169. DontAnnoyMe 00:21 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting tiggeriffic:


our local met said today that if irene followed the center line she would be about 175 miles off the coast of Charleston on Saturday...if she is already 0ver 200 miles out from center...well...that means we get some wind...not the strongest Thank God...but a wobble either way can make a difference...so yes i am watching


Most of the strong wind is on the north/east side.
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1170. Hurricanes101 00:21 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting Dirtleg:
Relax Taz.. It's the internet. I can find out anything about anyone. So are you saying we're NOT invited for a generator party?


Just because you can doesn't mean you should
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1171. presslord 00:22 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting tiggeriffic:


our local met said today that if irene followed the center line she would be about 175 miles off the coast of Charleston on Saturday...if she is already 0ver 200 miles out from center...well...that means we get some wind...not the strongest Thank God...but a wobble either way can make a difference...so yes i am watching


stop it
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1172. aussiecold 00:22 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting CybrTeddy:


No, it was directed to the person posting random facts about the 'failed' predictions on here. Sorry if it seemed directed towards anyone else.

dont get mad on people in here we bloggers and have the right to say the true ,THE MODELS went wrong every single day from day one and counting!!
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1173. aimetti 00:22 GMT le 25 août 2011    
... what the heck are all these models with 930's - 940's hitting li / ct. if this happens im screwed.
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1174. charlottefl 00:22 GMT le 25 août 2011    
NEW STEERING:




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1175. Some1Has2BtheRookie 00:22 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting tiggeriffic:


already did that once today alone...they don't go by IP address, just the user name unfortunately


IP addresses can be spoofed.

Users can use different computers and in different locations.

Most routers, today, allow you to spoof your MAC address, so even that can be a cat and mouse game.

You would have to block the IP addresses of their Internet provider. That blocks everyone else using those IP ranges.
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1177. MrstormX 00:23 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting Dirtleg:
Relax Taz.. It's the internet. I can find out anything about anyone. So are you saying we're NOT invited for a generator party?


Thats real low...don't post someones private data without their consent.
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1178. Patrap 00:23 GMT le 25 août 2011    
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1179. Smikey 00:23 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting nrtiwlnvragn:
18Z GFDL 102 hours




Holy Sheeeeee it.


If I read that correct that is forecasting a 926mb low just south and a tad west of NYC. [head smack]

Thank goddess its from the GFDL, and not the Euro.
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1180. tiggeriffic 00:23 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting presslord:


stop it


hey...he goes to YOUR church lol... :P
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1181. yoboi 00:23 GMT le 25 août 2011    
most people freak out after a squall line with 70 knts blow by them imagine that squall line lasting several hrs it's not that fun in a hurricane even cat 1...
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1182. Skyepony (Mod) 00:23 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting atmosweather:


Yeah I'm starting to believe that after about 16 runs in a row from the GFDL/HWRF/Euro showing very little weakening that the influence of the mid latitude trough will just add in more baroclinic energy.


The models called the lack of weakening over PR/Hispaniola too. This could be real bad.
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1183. Gorty 00:23 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting DontAnnoyMe:


Most of the strong wind is on the north/east side.


That's the strongest wind right? Like the west side could still see strong TS to low end cat 1 winds right? Because the wind field is soo large from the center.
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1184. Hurricanes101 00:23 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting aussiecold:

dont get mad on people in here we bloggers and have the right to say the true ,THE MODELS went wrong every single day from day one and counting!!


you are basing this on what?

The models have been pretty good with this, they changed when they needed to
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1185. Stormchaser2007 00:23 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
Stormchaser, if you're down to experience some nasty weather this weekend, head up to New Jersey. Very likely that the cyclone makes a close encounter...at the very least.


Yeah, my mother lives in NE NJ and they had some extreme flooding back in 99' with Floyd. Never really seen flooding like that until Katrina.

If this really looks like it may do some damage up there, I'll probably help prepare with the local EMS and whatnot.

Heck, I might even livestream for a while.
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1186. Tazmanian 00:23 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting Dirtleg:
Relax Taz.. It's the internet. I can find out anything about anyone. So are you saying we're NOT invited for a generator party?



moveing on two are storm
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1187. MyrtleCanes 00:23 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting Bluestorm5:
NHC just said that amp. though is causing 100 miles shift to west in Irene's track... am I'm being stupid or I'm right, anyone? I don't want to jump the gun.


what? post the link
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1188. Dakster 00:23 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting FLdewey:
Save for the errant tipped trash can it's all good... you can stay above ground.

For Florida...

LAND IMPACTS
An 18-24 hour period of moderate sustained winds (20-30 mph) are expected from around mid day Thu to mid day Fri as Irene makes its closest approach to central Florida.

A 12-18 hour period of onshore moving squalls expected for the coastal counties Thu and Thu night as the outer, western periphery of the hurricane rain bands move by.

As occasional squalls move onshore and down the coast, periods of torrential rain and wind gusts of 40-45 mph expected. A few of the squalls may reach into the central Florida interior (most likely eastern portions of inland county, with least chance for Lake County).

Rainfall totals of 1-3 inches expected near the coast, but could be higher in a few areas if any rain bands become persistent.

Location Day/Time Sustained winds Wind gusts in squalls
Martin/St. Lucie 8am Thu-8am Fri 25-30 mph 40-45 mph
Indian River 10am Thu-10am Fri 25-30 mph 40-45 mph
Brevard 10am Thu-10am Fri 25-30 mph 40-45 mph
Volusia 12pm Thu-12pm Fri 25-30 mph 40-45 mph

Interior (excl. Lake) Daytime Thu, Fri morning 20-25 mph 35-40 mph
Lake Daytime Thu, Fri morning 15-20 mph 30-35 mph if squalls extend into county



Heck. That has been the norm for the past month on our daily rainstorms... Just another day in paradise.
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1189. WeatherfanPR 00:24 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting dipchip:
Over the past 3 hours the storm has moved North .4 degrees and .3 degrees to the west. That is north of a NW track or 325. 10 degrees north of northwest.



Woohoooo !!!!!
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1190. asgolfr999 00:24 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting Tazmanian:



reported


plzs dont give out my info on where i live


taz. they just clicked on your name and you have sonora as your local weather
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1191. flbeachgirl 00:24 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting tiggeriffic:


yeah...i said earlier that if i lived in S. FL even tho the models say no way, that thing is close enuf to make me pee just a little...


It's making me want to do that, and I'm all the way up in Jax Beach. Like I heard someone say today...it's a good day to live in Northeast Florida. :)
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1192. MZT 00:24 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting wxobsvps:
SC/NC needs to still remain aware of Irene. And even coastal FL may feel the western fringes.
I will compare this closely with Isabel. She was just a breezy day and a few hours of drizzle in Charlotte. I wasn't here for Fran but she felled trees at my parent's house in Greensboro.

I was in Raleigh for Hugo. The forecasts were calling for a direct hit. Woke up the next morning, and everything was fine. There, anyway...
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1193. stormwatcherCI 00:24 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Current Weather Conditions:
Georgetown, Exuma, Bahamas, The
(MYEG) 23-28-30N 075-46-00W 3M
Conditions at

2011.08.24 2359 UTC
Wind from the NNW (340 degrees) at 36 MPH (31 KT) gusting to 60 MPH (52 KT)
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1195. DontAnnoyMe 00:24 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting Gorty:


That's the strongest wind right? Like the west side could still see strong TS to low end cat 1 winds right? Because the wind field is soo large from the center.


Yep. Just depends on how far you are away from the center of the storm.
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1196. TXEER 00:24 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Question for the pros...what is it that will turn the storm North as opposed to heading directly into Florida?
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1197. Tazmanian 00:25 GMT le 25 août 2011    
guys whats the ch of this hiting a strong cat 4 or cat 5 when we get the new eye and with this kind of mb of 949mb
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1198. Dirtleg 00:25 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting asgolfr999:


taz. they just clicked on your name and you have sonora as your local weather


It WAS pretty intuitive of me wasn't it?? I was actually admiring all of the pictures of traffic lights he took. And the snow.

But back to Irene
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1199. Gorty 00:25 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting wxobsvps:
CONUS high backing off the eastern flank... not what we need.


What does that mean?
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1200. rchira1 00:25 GMT le 25 août 2011    
How about this: Imagine everyone in south florida goes to sleep tonight and gets woken up by sirens and loud speakers from police cars saying we need to wakes up and that irene is now going west straight to s floida.
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1201. Tazmanian 00:25 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting asgolfr999:


taz. they just clicked on your name and you have sonora as your local weather



moveing on tooo are storm
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