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Category 3 Hurricane Irene tracks northwest through the Bahamas
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 20:55 GMT le 24 août 2011 +35
Hurricane Irene remains a powerful category 3 this afternoon, with maximum sustained winds of 120 mph. Irene is moving northwest through the Bahamas at 12 mph, and its center has cleared the northern edge of Crooked Island. The next islands in the path of Irene are Rum Cay (population 80) and Cat Island (population 1700), which it will encounter later tonight. Irene will track northeast of Long Island (in the Bahamas) over the next 24 hours. George Town has been reporting wind gusts up to around 40 mph this afternoon, and wind speed will likely increase during the next 12 hours as Irene's center passes about 30-40 miles to their northeast. Long Island in the Bahamas will likely see category 1 winds, which begin at 74 mph. Shelters on New Providence and Grand Bahama are open and ready for business, and Grand Bahama International Airport will remain closed until Irene passes.

Irene continues to look well-organized on satellite, especially compared to yesterday afternoon. Since then, intense upward motion, and therefore strong thunderstorm activity, has encompassed the center on all sides, which has led to a well-defined eye. Throughout the morning, Irene's eye wall has shrunk, and a new eye wall could be developing, although it remains unclear at this point. If this is the case, it could lead to some temporary weakening of the hurricane, which would be good for the Bahamas. This afternoon, Irene's hurricane-force winds extend 50 miles from the center, and tropical storm-force winds extend up to 205 miles from the center. Earlier this morning, an Air Force Hurricane Hunter mission investigated Irene and a NOAA Gulfstream (Gonzo) is currently collecting data around the hurricane.


Figure 1. Microwave satellite imagery of Irene captured at 8am this morning. Image source: Naval Research Laboratory.

Track forecast for Irene
NOAA has continued dropsonde missions today, scouring the atmosphere for data as far north as the waters off of South Carolina. Every bit of upper-air data that the models can ingest will lead to better forecasts and decreased uncertainty. These missions are an investment that pay off. Irene will track through the central Bahamas today, the northwestern Bahamas on Thursday, and approach the Outer Banks of North Carolina on Friday. Beyond this there is a bit of divergence in the models. Both the GFDL and the HWRF are forecasting a landfall on Long Island, New York, and the ECMWF continues to suggest a landfall even further west than that. NOGAPS is still the eastern outlier, which misses the U.S. all together and makes landfall in Canada. Today the official track forecast from the National Hurricane Center agrees with the GFS forecast through Saturday morning, and then diverges ever so slightly to the west of that through Monday. It has become clear over the past 3 days that everyone on the East Coast from North Carolina to Maine should be prepared to feel impacts from Hurricane Irene.


Figure 2. Official track forecast provided by the National Hurricane Center.

Intensity forecast for Irene
Irene continues to be embedded in a large envelope of moisture, and wind shear is expected to remain low to moderate, 5 - 20 knots, for the next three days. With water temperatures very warm, 28 - 30°C, these conditions should allow for intensification to a category 4 hurricane (winds of 131 to 155 mph). The only reliable model that's not forecasting this intensification is the GFS, and this is likely due to its relatively course spatial resolution. The National Hurricane Center expects Irene to intensify to a category 4 tomorrow, with a decrease in intensity back to a category 3 on Friday.

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2451. MississippiWx 03:55 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting Skyepony:
Oceansat caught 90L 3 hrs later...pulling together..



Circulation looks closed for the most part...NE part is questionable, but probably would pass the test.
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2452. PrivateIdaho 03:55 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting CosmicEvents:


or an appendage.
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kinda glad you didn't elaborate.
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2453. AllStar17 03:56 GMT le 25 août 2011    
11:00pm Advisory
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2454. NYBizBee 03:56 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Ive lived in NYC my whole life. People will walk around 42st like nothing and the cabs will still be picking up those fares...:) Should be interesting to say the least if this goes over cen Long island. Chaos with 100mph winds.
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2455. Remek 03:56 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting RedrumATL:


Regardless - wobbles do count when we're splitting hairs on this projected NHS track. Am I wrong?


If you're within 50-100 miles or so, wobbles can be really important. 500 miles or several days away, overall direction and speed take precedent.
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2456. RitaEvac 03:56 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Carolina land fall, most likely North

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2457. thedawnawakening3 03:57 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Area of ultimate growth for Hurricane Irene within the next 48 hours is between 26-33n and 75-80w for Irene to max out in intensity. I expect landfall on the Outer Banks as a category three hurricane max sustained winds of 125mph. I expect a secondary landfall location over Montauk pt, NY as a category two hurricane 110mph winds. Anyone east of Montauk, NY in SE MA/RI and CT should all experience category two to three hurricane wind gusts, heavy, heavy rainfall and sustained winds probably between 90-110mph. Wind shear will likely be the main cause for weakening of Irene as SSTs along the Gulf Stream are quite warm for this time of year. The ultimate peak in intensity for Irene shoul occur within the next 48 hours. Anywhere between 150-175mph is the potential peak, although I would stay conservative and officially say 145mph would be my max given that there was not a whole lot Irene could have done with her smaller eye she had this afternoon. Time will tell on the size of her future eye and eyewall and this could help to determine if she can reach category five status. Wind shear shoul be light 5-15 knots over the next 48 hours and then increase thereafter with SSTs in te 28-30C range over the next 48 hours along with a lot of moisture present there should be no negative factors keeping Irene from strengthening besides time and EWRCs. Wind shear should increase as Irene reaches 33n and nears Hatteras, NC and therefore weakening is forecasted.
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2458. TampaSpin 03:57 GMT le 25 août 2011    

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2459. ProgressivePulse 03:57 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Gotta start logging some more hours in the sleep category, night all.

Got this feeling the marine warnings below will be coming inland a bit.

HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK FOR SOUTH FLORIDA
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MIAMI FL
610 PM EDT WED AUG 24 2011

FLZ063-066>075-168-172>174-251000-
GLADES-HENDRY-INLAND PALM BEACH-METRO PALM BEACH-COASTAL COLLIER-
INLAND COLLIER-INLAND BROWARD-METRO BROWARD-INLAND MIAMI DADE-
METRO MIAMI DADE-MAINLAND MONROE-COASTAL PALM BEACH-
COASTAL BROWARD-COASTAL MIAMI DADE-FAR SOUTH MIAMI DADE-
610 PM EDT WED AUG 24 2011

...TROPICAL STORM WARNING PALM BEACH WATERS OUT BEYOND 20 NM...
...TROPICAL STORM WATCH REMAINDER ATLANTIC WATERS...
...THUNDERSTORMS ATLANTIC WATERS AND EAST LATE TONIGHT...
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2460. Tazmanian 03:57 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting weatherman566:
0z GFS 42 hours:




thats not good
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2461. Torgen 03:57 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting TampaSpin:


Could you explain why Irene compresses against the east coast of Florida like that? Does the land heating up during the day cause that much high pressure, that the outer bands of low pressure can't get over land?
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2462. HadesGodWyvern 03:57 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Japan Meteorological Agency
Tropical Cyclone Advisory #12
TROPICAL STORM TALAS (T1112)
12:00 PM JST August 25 2011
============================

SUBJECT: Category One Typhoon In Sea Near Mariana Island

At 3:00 AM UTC, Tropical Storm Talas (998 hPa) located near 18.6N 141.2E has 10 minute sustained winds of 35 knots with gusts of 50 knots. The cyclone is reported as moving north at 10 knots

Dvorak Intensity: T2.5

Gale Force Winds
=================
150 NM from the center in southeast quadrant
60 NM from the center in northwest quadrant

Forecast and Intensity
=======================

24 HRS: 20.5N 140.6E - 50 knots (CAT 2/Severe Tropical Storm)
44 HRS: 21.5N 140.5E - 60 knots (CAT 2/Severe Tropical Storm)
69 HRS: 23.2N 140.0E - 70 knots (CAT 3/Strong Typhoon)
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2463. CCkid00 03:57 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting CosmicEvents:
or an appendage.
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Anyone worried about those BAM models, don't be. Those are for weak systems, exactly the opposite of the beast we're dealing with here. There's ZERO chance of Irene coming anywhere near to Florida. Any forecaster who knows the teeniest bit about forecasting(like me) knows that the Bam's are moot.
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This is an historic storm, potentially the biggest weather event we'll see in decades. All eyes should be peeled on the Northeastern cities and the heavily populated suburban areas and any coastal area from NC on up. And all of us should be sending out the warning to everyone we know in the area.


There was ZERO chance of the Titanic sinking, too....according to those who knew the most about it! Until the storm is NORTH of Florida.....those people have every reason to be concerned. To not be at all, would be foolish.
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2464. scCane 03:57 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting weatherman566:
0z GFS 42 hours:


Thats quite a bit far west compared to the last run, makes me wonder if the Euro is going to be even further-west given the trends....
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2465. Levi32 03:58 GMT le 25 août 2011    
The fact that Irene's pressure has not risen yet during the EWRC is actually fairly impressive, as almost all hurricanes exhibit some pressure rises during their replacement cycles. This means that Irene may be getting ready to really put on a show after the cycle completes, which is not good news for the northwest Bahamas.
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2466. Floodman 03:58 GMT le 25 août 2011    
One other thing...I think I see what SotrmPetrol was talking about...if she doesn't start a little jog east, she's going to the miss the next forecast point by about .5 of a DEGREE WEST...the forecast point is 76.5W25.5N and she will end up 77W25.5N...or are my eyes just getting bleary from gazing at IR maps and funktops?
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2467. tennisgirl08 03:58 GMT le 25 août 2011    
She better start NNW track soon, or she will follow the west side of cone

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2468. IceCoast 03:58 GMT le 25 août 2011    
45Hrs GFS 00z
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2469. earthlydragonfly 03:58 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting Remek:


Nope, but I sort of understand...

1) It's the first major hurricane to threaten CONUS this year.
2) Close enough to more easily gather lots of extra data to evaluate/refine models and forecasts.
3) Starting early yesterday it became a major threat the nation's capital.
4) It also became a threat to the dense E.coast major population centers.
4) It also threatened one of the world's major financial centers.
5) The threat to DC and Wall St. (ie- very important/rich people) is probably the major reason. Aiding everyone else on the East US coast is a convenient side effect. ;P



If u didn't have the rich u wouldn't have the money in the first place.
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2470. MississippiWx 03:58 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting Levi32:
The fact that Irene's pressure has not risen yet during the EWRC is actually fairly impressive, as almost all hurricanes exhibit some pressure rises during their replacement cycles. This means that Irene may be getting ready to really put on a show after the cycle completes, which is not good news for the northwest Bahamas.


Irene's core has been strange for most of her life anyway.
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2471. atmosweather 03:59 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting TexasGulf:
A "hurricane barrier" on the Providence River in Rhode Island is a long earthen & rock dike, concrete lined in some places and also has three large closeable steel gates that span the river. During a hurricane, the barrier gates can be closed and pumps kick on to pump the river water over the barrier (so the river keeps flowing downstream and it doesn't back up).

Providence has a low lying downtown area, with some elevations only 8-9 feet above sea level, that would normally flood in a major storm surge. Since the "hurricane barrier" was built, it has protected the city from storm surges and they haven't flooded due to storm surge. I don't believe the barrier has ever been tested by more than an 8-foot storm surge.



The current barrier in place would not have been tested by anything like the storm surge that Providence could receive on Sunday. A track right over the area or just to the W could pose a serious problem.
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2472. owntime 03:59 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting Levi32:
The G-IV plane is sampling the upper low in the eastern Gulf of Mexico, as well as the environment around Irene. They obviously understand the difficulties that models have with cut-off upper lows, and are thus making sure some data is collected in that area as well. 25 of these dropsondes got into the 0z GFS, which is now running.

looks almost like a Dos Equis label on the bottom right of the screen. LOL
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2473. weatherman566 03:59 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting Levi32:
The fact that Irene's pressure has not risen yet during the EWRC is actually fairly impressive, as almost all hurricanes exhibit some pressure rises during their replacement cycles. This means that Irene may be getting ready to really put on a show after the cycle completes, which is not good news for the northwest Bahamas.


I agree, and Irene will be moving over the Gulf Stream too. Irene could easily intensify overnight into Thursday.
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2474. Thrawst 03:59 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting Levi32:
The fact that Irene's pressure has not risen yet during the EWRC is actually fairly impressive, as almost all hurricanes exhibit some pressure rises during their replacement cycles. This means that Irene may be getting ready to really put on a show after the cycle completes, which is not good news for the northwest Bahamas.


Lovely news Levi, lovely. :P

Btw, I lied, I'm staying up a lil longer.
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2475. Levi32 04:00 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting MississippiWx:


Irene's core has been strange for most of her life anyway.


I wouldn't call it strange. She has looked like a hurricane struggling with dry air entrainment, but with enough positive factors to keep intensifying. We may finally see a solid eyewall with her after this EWRC is complete, as outflow has expanded nicely to the west, really filling out the storm into a more symmetric shape, the best-looking of her life so far, though still not perfect.
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2476. yoboi 04:00 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting Remek:


Nope, but I sort of understand...

1) It's the first major hurricane to threaten CONUS this year.
2) Close enough to more easily gather lots of extra data to evaluate/refine models and forecasts.
3) Starting early yesterday it became a major threat the nation's capital.
4) It also became a threat to the dense E.coast major population centers.
4) It also threatened one of the world's major financial centers.
5) The threat to DC and Wall St. (ie- very important/rich people) is probably the major reason. Aiding everyone else on the East US coast is a convenient side effect. ;P

Quoting Remek:


Nope, but I sort of understand...

1) It's the first major hurricane to threaten CONUS this year.
2) Close enough to more easily gather lots of extra data to evaluate/refine models and forecasts.
3) Starting early yesterday it became a major threat the nation's capital.
4) It also became a threat to the dense E.coast major population centers.
4) It also threatened one of the world's major financial centers.
5) The threat to DC and Wall St. (ie- very important/rich people) is probably the major reason. Aiding everyone else on the East US coast is a convenient side effect. ;P



very well spoken.
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2477. IFuSAYso 04:00 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting PrivateIdaho:


Most all my relatives live there.


I've family in Crestview (Military that call it affectionately Crestucky where the toothbrush must have been invented or they would call it a teethbrush) and I love the Destin area.
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2478. oceanblues32 04:00 GMT le 25 août 2011    
the new guy here in browaard and miami dade county said she may get a little closer than anticipated and we may feel more thaan anticipated now what does that mean I am in ft lauderdale
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2479. jonelu 04:00 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting Skyepony:
Oceansat caught 90L 3 hrs later...pulling together..

impressive!
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2480. IceCoast 04:00 GMT le 25 août 2011    
51Hrs GFS
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2482. Tazmanian 04:00 GMT le 25 août 2011    
how many mils in tell the storms come too FL it looks vary vary close
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2483. weatherman566 04:00 GMT le 25 août 2011    
0z GFS 48 hours:

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2484. Carnoustie 04:00 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting Thrawst:


We're prepared... but according to satellite imagery... if these wobbles to the west (like what it's doing now) continue... it's quite possible that this could come 20-40 miles closer than what the NHC forecast has.


stay safe.
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2485. Grothar 04:01 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Levi, you still up? Got a question.
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2486. Remek 04:01 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting NYBizBee:
Ive lived in NYC my whole life. People will walk around 42st like nothing and the cabs will still be picking up those fares...:) Should be interesting to say the least if this goes over cen Long island. Chaos with 100mph winds.


"Hey, look lady... you want me to drive, or bail water?"
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2487. Levi32 04:01 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting Grothar:
Levi, you still up? Got a question.


Sure.
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2488. will40 04:01 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Link


live pier cam on island where i live on the NC coast
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2489. UpperLevelLOL 04:01 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting tennisgirl08:


Future Jose...where's he going??


To America, like so many others
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2490. atmosweather 04:01 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting Levi32:
The fact that Irene's pressure has not risen yet during the EWRC is actually fairly impressive, as almost all hurricanes exhibit some pressure rises during their replacement cycles. This means that Irene may be getting ready to really put on a show after the cycle completes, which is not good news for the northwest Bahamas.


Little bit like how Katrina's central pressure only rose from 940 mb right before its EWRC to around 945 mb during the cycle itself. Larger storms tend to resist large pressure rises while undergoing these cycles.
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2491. VieraChris 04:02 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting CCkid00:


There was ZERO chance of the Titanic sinking, too....according to those who knew the most about it! Until the storm is NORTH of Florida.....those people have every reason to be concerned. To not be at all, would be foolish.


Exactly. I've said that several times here today. I live on the FL east central coast just north of Melbourne. You can have as many models and projections as possible, but until Irene either makes turn more to the north than west or passes by to my north, I'm not taking my eyes off her....she will go where she goes...period. Stay safe everyone and special prayers for those in the Bahamas tonight! Goodnight all!
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2492. reedzone 04:02 GMT le 25 août 2011    
So the local forecast music on TWC was playing a Christian song by DC Talk called "In the Light", no words, but just the instrumental.. Thought that was interesting and cool.
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2493. IFuSAYso 04:02 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting Floodman:
One other thing...I think I see what SotrmPetrol was talking about...if she doesn't start a little jog east, she's going to the miss the next forecast point by about .5 of a DEGREE WEST...the forecast point is 76.5W25.5N and she will end up 77W25.5N...or are my eyes just getting bleary from gazing at IR maps and funktops?


Someone in an earlier post(not SP) said their local met said if she didnt turn by 77w look out.
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2494. weatherman566 04:02 GMT le 25 août 2011    
0z GFS 54 hours:

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2495. ConnecticutWXGuy 04:02 GMT le 25 août 2011    
All day long, even with the wobbles by the time the center got to each forecast point it was pretty much right on target.
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2496. sunlinepr 04:02 GMT le 25 août 2011    
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2497. Tazmanian 04:02 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting weatherman566:
0z GFS 48 hours:





poor GA and NC
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2499. KaNaPaPiJoSa 04:02 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting UpperLevelLOL:


To America, like so many others


Let's not get racist.
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2500. NewEnglandExpress 04:02 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Checking in from New London CT.....
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2501. TampaSpin 04:03 GMT le 25 août 2011    
Quoting Torgen:


Could you explain why Irene compresses against the east coast of Florida like that? Does the land heating up during the day cause that much high pressure, that the outer bands of low pressure can't get over land?


Those are Wave Actions not Wind.........but, Surf waves..Irene has over 26ft waves near the center.......OUCH.
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