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| Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 20:59 GMT le 25 août 2011 | +28 |
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Jeff co-founded the Weather Underground in 1995 while working on his Ph.D. He flew with the NOAA Hurricane Hunters from 1986-1990.
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yeah, and I also think intense convection forming along the eastern and northeastern eye-wall for the first time in a long while will finally begin the process of allowing stronger winds to concentrate back toward the center instead of extending out away from the center.
not at all unusual with women
That said, I do hope people are taking Irene seriously. The storm has a comparable diameter to Ike and a comparable wind field (albeit with far better structure and higher intensity). The storm surge is going to be one of its biggest threats, especially as these areas along the east coast have not seen a storm like this in many years.
boy you sure are full of piss and vinegar tonight... lol :P
The discussions were the same for Ike and Alex.
Touche. ;)
Sleep well. see ya in the am
One of the many mysteries of life.
Agreed, I'm in concord
REPOST AS THE ANSWER TO SEVERAL OF THE SAME QUESTION:
I need to clear something up. The reason that Irene's winds are lower than would be expected is because of the size of the storm and the relaxed pressure gradient within it.
If you were following the storm on recon earlier this week, there would be a steep drop of pressure as the plane flew through the eye and then a sharp increase. This might have occurred over a single relayed message in the recon data.
NOW however, the plane will fly in a direction for several messages and all the reading will be sub 980.
The storm has removed a huge amount of mass from its center which will make her resistant to weakening much over the next couple days as she heads north.
However it is the pressure GRADIENT force that drives winds. So the slow transition of pressure means that her winds are no longer 115mph even thoug her pressure is lower.
The pressure GRADIENT force (pgf) is why a 1006 tropical storm can have 60mph winds when it's butting up against a strong Bermuda High, or a storm can have 990mb pressure and have the same 60 mph winds when it is in a larger region of low ambient pressure.
The change in pressure over the distance is what drives wind speed.
Looking at the latest image it appears to moving due north
If that's a trend and not just a wobble it might be headed more for a track like a couple of days ago
It's getting tugged by the trough moving by....then it will get pushed back west a little then go back to due north till nc
I am ordinarily not one to get involved in petty skirmishes, but the both of you just need to calm down. No one wants Irene to cause destruction or death, but arguing about this isn't helping. People come here for valuable information, and in cases where a landfall is imminent, bickering will only serve to dissuade those people.
That's kinda disgusting!
Good for NC, bad for us New Englanders. Thoughts on this? Think she will getback on track or is this a permanent eastward shift?
If that's a trend and not just a wobble it might be headed more for a track like a couple of days ago"
Seems like its just a wobble. These things tend to do alot of that especially when they become as large (in terms of overall circulation) as Irene is. Ike did quite a bit of stair-step type wobbling prior to its landfall.
That's not to say, it would be really great if something changed and this thing was able to turn out to sea a bit, but right now just don't see that in the cards.
Sounds like my last marriage.
Wobbly, but NE looking to me which is great news, especially for the surf. Swell should be clean tomorrow, especially the further east this thing turns. Models maybe following BAM. Nonetheless, wave are huge and should be epic when winds shift offshore tomorrow he in East Florida.
And it's currently finding waves of 34.8 ft - this is some storm.
That is true but the NE turn is probably your WORST enemy right now (Sorry North Carolina) but NY/RI/NJ ETC wants this storm to have some time over the land of the Outerbanks. If she stays just off shore it isn't going to be good. The models all are showing a sharp left turn once she gets north of NC
I do hope she continues NE and spares the US her right side of her fury.
Hurricanes are like human beings, no one is exactly alike and they all behave differently.
Welcome to the madness!
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