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Lee's winds fan deadly Texas fires; a dangerous day for Lee's floods and tornadoes
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 16:43 GMT le 05 septembre 2011 +20
Texas' unprecedented heat wave and drought turned deadly yesterday when fires fanned by Tropical Storm Lee's gusty winds swept through East Texas, torching 300 homes near Austin, and killing a woman and her 18-month old daughter who couldn't escape the flames in Gladewater. At Austin Bergstrom Airport yesterday afternoon, the counter-clockwise circulation around Tropical Storm Lee brought sustained winds of 25 mph, gusting to 31. Lee didn't bring any clouds or moisture to Austin, and the afternoon high hit 102°, with a humidity of 22%. With the region enduring it's driest 1-year drought on record, yesterday's heat, dryness, and winds resulted in extremely critical fire conditions. The forecast today for Austin is marginally better--temperatures will be cooler, only reaching the upper 80s, but strong winds of 20 - 25 mph will continue to blow, and the atmosphere will be drier, with humidities in the 15 - 25% range. NOAA's Storm Prediction Center has declared a "Critical" fire weather danger area for East Texas today, one level below yesterday's "Extremely Critical" conditions. You can monitor today's fire activity by using our wundermap for Austin with the fire layer turned on. The summer of 2011 now holds every major heat record for the city of Austin, including most 100° days (67 so far), hottest month in recorded history (August, breaking the previous record by a remarkable 2.1°), hottest summer (by 1.1°), and hottest day in history (112°F, tied with Sep, 5, 2000.)

Texas' unprecedented heat
For as long as people have been taking weather measurements in Texas, there has never been a summer hotter than the summer of 2011. As wunderground's weather historian Christopher C. Burt documents in his latest blog post, seventeen major cities in Texas recorded their hottest summer on record in 2011. Most of these stations had records extending back more than 100 years, and several of the records were smashed by an amazing 3.4°F--at Lubbock and at Wichita Falls. Neighboring states also experienced unprecedented heat, with Oklahoma recording America's hottest month by any state in recorded history during July, and Shreveport, Louisiana breaking its record for hottest month by 3°F in August. Mr. Burt commented to me: " I do not believe I have ever seen a site with a long period of record, like Shreveport, where records go back to 1874, break its warmest single month on record by an astonishing 3°. This is unheard of. Usually when a site breaks its single month temperature record, we are talking about tenths of a degree, rarely a whole degree, let alone 3 degrees! Hard to believe, frankly." Texas has also had its worst fire season on record, with over 3.5 million acres burned this year, and it's driest 1-year period in recorded history.


Figure 1. Observed rainfall for the seven-day period ending at 8 am EDT Monday Sep 5, 2011. Tropical Storm Lee had dumped in excess of ten inches of rain sections of Louisiana and Mississippi (pink colors). Image credit: NOAA/AHPS.

Heavy rains from Lee creating dangerous flooding situation
Tropical Storm Lee has been absorbed by a cold front, and is no longer a tropical depression. However, the remnants of Lee are bringing torrential rains to the South and Appalachians today, and pose a serious flood threat. NOAA's latest Quantitative Precipitation Forecast warns that "an excessive and life-threatening rainfall event will be unfolding today and tonight across the Tennessee Valley and also the Southern Appalachians." A wide region of 4 - 8 inches of rain is expected along the path of Lee's remnants as they slide northeastwards along the front. These rains will likely accumulate later this week to 2 - 3 inches over New England regions devastated by Hurricane Irene's floods. Also of concern is the potential for tornadoes today. NOAA's Storm Prediction Center has logged 22 tornado reports so far from Lee, and today promises to be the most serious day for tornadoes yet, with SPC predicting a "Moderate Risk" of tornadoes across the South. Lee's heaviest rain amounts, by state, as of 10 am CDT today:

Holden, LA: 15.43"
Florence, MS: 13.45"
Mobile, AL: 11.35"
Milton, FL: 10.03"
Cumberland City, TN: 5.09"
Bridge City, TX: 3.12"
Plum Springs, KY: 3.10"


Figure 2. Predicted rainfall for the 5-day period 8am EDT Monday - 8 am EDT Saturday, Sep 10, 2011. Lee's remnants are expected to bring a large swath of 4+ inches of rain all the way to Pennsylvania. Image credit: NOAA/HPC.


Figure 3. Severe weather risk for Monday, September 5, 2011.

Hurricane Katia
Hurricane Katia is close to major hurricane strength, and is now a high-end Category 2 hurricane with 110 mph winds. Latest satellite loops show a well-defined eye and good upper-level outflow on all sides, but the hurricane still has a lopsided appearance, due to the impacts of dry air and moderate wind shear on its south side.

The computer models have finally come into agreement on the long-range future of Katia, determining that the trough of low pressure that will develop over the Eastern U.S. later this week will turn the hurricane to the north well before the storm reaches the U.S. As the storm moves northwards past North Carolina, Katia will get caught up in west-to-east moving winds associated with the jet stream, and taken northeastwards out to sea. No land areas are in Katia's cone of uncertainty, though Newfoundland, Canada will need to watch future forecasts to see how close Katia may pass to the southeastern portion of that province. The main impact of Katia will be high surf leading to beach erosion and dangerous rip currents. Long period swells from Katia are arriving at the Southeast U.S. coast today, and the entire U.S. East Coast will receive an extended multi-day period of high surf.


Figure 4. Afternoon satellite image of Hurricane Katia.

95L off the coast of Africa
A large tropical wave with plenty of intense thunderstorm activity and spin is located about 500 miles southwest of the Cape Verde Islands off the coast of Africa. This wave, Invest 95L, is under a moderate 10 - 20 knots of wind shear, and is headed west at 15 mph. Water vapor satellite images show that 95L is embedded in a very moist environment. Ocean temperatures are near 28°C, which is 1.5°C above the 26.5°C threshold usually needed for a tropical storm to form. With wind shear predicted to drop to the low range tomorrow, I don't see anything that would keep 95L from becoming a tropical depression in two or so days. NHC is giving 95L a 20% chance of developing into a tropical depression by Wednesday; given the storm's rather impressive organization and spin apparent on recent satellite loops, I'd put these odds at 40%. The NOGAPS model predicts 95L will develop by Saturday, a few hundred miles north of the Northern Lesser Antilles Islands, but this storm could just as easily pass directly through the Lesser Antilles on Saturday or Sunday, and develop into a tropical storm much sooner. If you plan on being in the Lesser Antilles Islands this weekend, pay attention to 95L.

New Gulf of Mexico disturbance
A cold front swept into the Gulf of Mexico off the coast of Texas behind Tropical Storm Lee early this morning. The front is expected to continue to the east and stall out Tuesday and Wednesday along a line from Louisiana to Mexico's Bay of Campeche in the southern Gulf of Mexico. Several recent runs of the ECMWF and GFS models have given support to the idea that a tropical depression would form at the tail end of this front late this week, in Mexico's Bay of Campeche. The path such a storm might take would depend strongly on where the center forms. A more northerly formation location near the top of Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula would likely result in a northward motion towards the Florida Panhandle, while a more southerly formation location might lead to the storm getting trapped in a region of weak steering currents, resulting in a slow, erratic motion in the southern Gulf. NHC is currently not highlighting the Bay of Campeche in their Tropical Weather Outlook, and it will likely be Wednesday before enough heavy thunderstorms build to warrant mention.

Jeff Masters
Up In Smoke (Madermade)
Another wildfire this afternoon in Bridgeport, Tx... still burning!
Up In Smoke
Mandeville, Louisiana Lakefront during TS LEE (hurricanep)
Mandeville, Louisiana Lakefront during TS LEE
Lake Pontchartrain Lakefront (hurricanep)
TS Lee still affecting Louisiana
Lake Pontchartrain Lakefront
Tropical Storm Lee-Day 2 #2 (jennjeff1)
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1301. NCHurricane2009 23:33 GMT le 05 septembre 2011    
Quoting Levi32:


It's like a flow of traffic on a straight highway encountering a curve in the road. The traffic can't maintain the same speed, and must slow down. The cars in front slow down first, and thus the traffic piles up and becomes congested - converges. Air following contour lines must do the same thing when moving into the base of a trough, because the contour lines are closer together, and thus air molecules are funneled into a smaller space. For the same reason, the jetstream is usually flowing faster at the base of the trough as well. This piling up of air is the upper convergence that forces the sinking motion on the back side of upper troughs.


But what always bugged me is understanding why the air parcles (cars in the front) slow down on the back side of upper troughs?
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1302. Progster 23:33 GMT le 05 septembre 2011    
Quoting NCHurricane2009:


I was thinking the upper trough associated with the front that Lee is moving along has becoming baroclinically amplified by Lee...with mass upper divergence increasing east of the trough and mass upper air convergence (sinking air over Texas/LA) on the west side of the trough...


Yes, that's a normal couplet and no doubt its happening here. But upstream you've got massive ridge building along the West Coast forced, in turn, by anomalously deep troughing over the Gulf of Alaska whic is in turn related to the extratropical transition of a TS near Japan. These "Snakes on a Rossby wave train" can amplify mass adjustments in the atmosphere a great distance from the originating disturbance, and at a speed well in excess of the long wave velocity.
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1303. bappit 23:33 GMT le 05 septembre 2011    
Quoting JrWeathermanFL:

Texas did get rain from Lee. Lee didnt cause the wildfires.

Far southeast TX got some rain. The rest? Nope. There were some gusty winds, and they preceded the frontal passage. There were winds after the front, too. The front just dried things out even more.
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1304. JGreco 23:35 GMT le 05 septembre 2011    
Quoting SPLbeater:
what makes levi so important?


removed
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1305. JLPR2 23:35 GMT le 05 septembre 2011    
Stayed at 60%. That was a quick update from the NHC. It isn't 8pm yet.
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1306. cycleranger 23:36 GMT le 05 septembre 2011    
Quoting SPLbeater:
what makes levi so important?


How many Alaskans would we believe have an interest in the Tropics?

That in itself is an impressive irony.

As to his importance; I think he along with several others, takes a sober minded approach to forecasting dangerous hurricanes.
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1307. NCHurricane2009 23:36 GMT le 05 septembre 2011    
Quoting wolftribe2009:


how was Jose annoying?


Well...a lot of us argued that Jose shouldn't have been classifed....and this has triggered a lot of debate on this blog....I have mixed results personally on whether Jose should have been classified or not...
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1308. wolftribe2009 23:36 GMT le 05 septembre 2011    
Quoting NCHurricane2009:


"Texas' unprecedented heat wave and drought turned deadly yesterday when fires fanned by Tropical Storm Lee's gusty winds swept through East Texas, torching 300 homes near Austin..."

I interprete Dr. M's first sentence on his above blog post as Lee was somewhat repsonsible for the fires...

And I though Lee produced rain barely in E Texas...the rest of Texas remained bone dry during Lee unfortunately...


Lee didn't create the wildfires BUT his wind fanned the flames that burned 300+ homes

So he might have not created the wildfire but those 300 homes are his fault. The winds were just too fast for Texas wildfire personnel to get the upper hand on it. Only east texas got rain. Central and west text have gotten very little to nothing on rainfall this year.
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1309. Levi32 23:36 GMT le 05 septembre 2011    
Quoting NCHurricane2009:


But what always bugged me is understanding why the air parcles (cars in the front) slow down on the back side of upper troughs?


They're getting squished together. The pressure gradient becomes largest at the base of the trough, and thus the stream flow becomes "thinner" if you will, because air flows roughly along geopotential height contours. It's a little confusing because often the jetstream actually flows faster at the base of the trough, which would imply divergence since things are speeding up. However, perhaps the car analogy doesn't work that well here because the air isn't so much slowing down as it is getting squished together, which causes it to pile up regardless of its speed.
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1310. GTcooliebai 23:36 GMT le 05 septembre 2011    
Quoting clwstmchasr:


Why? To tell you that the winds are 110 or 120 instead of 115? Does it really matter?
Exactly, plus it is not a threat to any land area, and the only reason they would go out there is to sample the Upper Air dynamics.
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1311. thedawnawakening3 23:36 GMT le 05 septembre 2011    
Actually downsloping from the leeward side of the southern Rockies has a lot to do with the dry air over TX. While it is not the only reason such dry air has plagued TX, it is one of the reasons it is this dry. There are three main factors attributing to this dry season:
1.) heightened downsloping from the southern Rockies attributes to a naturally drier air across TX during the summer months as strong troughs of low pressure have moved across the central Plains.
2.) Intense upper air convergence on the backside of the upper level mean troughs has allowed a large buildup of subsidence to occur and combine with the mountain downsloping winds,
3.) finally a large mean surface high has been over the region for awhile now given the overall synoptic 500mb mean ridging and eastern US troughing have all combined to allow sinking motion over most of TX.

All three of these factors have combined right now to produce some of the driest air we have seen in a long time over the state of TX.
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1312. Gaea 23:37 GMT le 05 septembre 2011    
Quoting JrWeathermanFL:

Texas did get rain from Lee. Lee didnt cause the wildfires.


Oh Great Wise One, please explain. Do not include wind, dry air, or static in your explanation. Help the mere mortals to understand.
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1313. TropicalAnalystwx13 23:38 GMT le 05 septembre 2011    
Quoting JLPR2:
Stayed at 60%. That was a quick update from the NHC. It isn't 8pm yet.


They always update before 8PM.
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1314. beell 23:39 GMT le 05 septembre 2011    
Certainly no shortage of dry, subsident air.

click for loop

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1315. HallsCrossRdsTNWx 23:39 GMT le 05 septembre 2011    
... Record daily maximum rainfall set at Knoxville...

a record rainfall of 3.85 inch(es) was set at Knoxville today.
This breaks the old record of 2.09 set in 1933

Holiday Hills PWS

4.16" since mid-night, and 4.67" storm total.

09/05/2011 0212 PM

Knoxville, Knox County.

Flash flood, reported by law enforcement.


Flooding is occurring on numerous roads around Knoxville
including Sherrill Blvd... Walker Blvd and Mineral Springs
Rd... heiskel Ave... and Proctor St. Water rescues have
been made from stranded cars on cross park Dr.
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1316. JLPR2 23:40 GMT le 05 septembre 2011    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:


They always update before 8PM.


25minutes before 8pm is a little too much. xD
It's usually out by 7:50pm.
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1317. NCHurricane2009 23:40 GMT le 05 septembre 2011    
Quoting Levi32:


They're getting squished together. The pressure gradient becomes largest at the base of the trough, and thus the stream flow becomes "thinner" if you will, because air flows roughly along geopotential height contours. It's a little confusing because often the jetstream actually flows faster at the base of the trough, which would imply divergence since things are speeding up. However, perhaps the car analogy doesn't work that well here because the air isn't so much slowing down as it is getting squished together, which causes it to pile up regardless of its speed.


Aaaah...now I see...but why is it the geopotential height contours get squished at the base of the upper trough. I have indeed noticed this many times when I look at upper-level pressure maps...
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1318. GTcooliebai 23:41 GMT le 05 septembre 2011    
Quoting beell:
Certainly no shortage of dry, subsident air.

click for loop

That is some really dry air, I wouldn't be surprise if it prevented our BOC disturbance from developing.
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1319. rv1pop 23:41 GMT le 05 septembre 2011    
Quoting JLPR2:


Like my first year Spanish college professor told us.

"Foul words" are part of the language, don't be afraid of the language. LOL!
But using the word incorrectly is just sad. xD
I am not paying to have my children or grandchildren taught those kinds of things. Both have been home-schooled and have enough respect for the rest of the family and for themselves to rule their own tongues.
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1320. Speeky 23:42 GMT le 05 septembre 2011    
Does 95L pose a threat to the US?

I think it may
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1321. hswiseman 23:42 GMT le 05 septembre 2011    
Is the CMC on crack, or is it seeing something westward that the other models are only slightly reacting to? Landfall of another cyclone in Southern New England is completely unnecessary.
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1322. FLWeatherFreak91 23:43 GMT le 05 septembre 2011    
Rainy night on tap for Tampa as an area of heavy showers with dispersed thunderstorms moves in off of the gulf.
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1323. GeoffreyWPB 23:44 GMT le 05 septembre 2011    
Quoting JLPR2:


25minutes before 8pm is a little too much. xD
It's usually out by 7:50pm.


It's a holiday. Give 'em a break!
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1324. Levi32 23:44 GMT le 05 septembre 2011    
Quoting NCHurricane2009:


Aaaah...now I see...but why is it the geopotential height contours get squished at the base of the upper trough. I have indeed noticed this many times when I look at upper-level pressure maps...


They're like isobars on a surface map. The pressure gradient is stronger when the spacing between them is smaller. This is because over a certain distance, the pressure (or geopotential height) changes by a greater amount. Geopotential height contours (isohypses) are very analogous to isobars because the pressure gradient is also stronger when isohypses are closer together.

The reason why they get closer together at the base of the trough is because this is where the trough is imposing the most on the ridge south of it. It is encountering greater resistance there, and thus the pressure gradient is stronger.
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1325. thedawnawakening3 23:44 GMT le 05 septembre 2011    
Convergence on the leftside of the upper level troughs as air around a ridge pushes up against an upper level trough the air converges and then subsidence develops as converging air in the upper levels is forced downward. Air building up on the backside of a trough is forced downward towards the earth's surface and therefore the air warms and dries out at the same time. When talking about horizontal winds, as they converge they tend to speed up and narrow the stream of air flow, therefore at the base of the trough is where your fastest flow should end up, however depending upon the intensity of the trough's tilt and the tilted axis will actually determine where the jet speed max is located. Say we have a negatively tilted intense trough, where the speed max is around 150 knots at the upper levels, this is likely located to the northeast of the upper trough axis as air bends around the trough axis it speeds up as it releases away from the axis, therefore upper level divergence occurs to the NE of the trough axis and is why mean positions of the surface low is in the NE quadrant of the upper level trough and is a good tool to use when forecasting strong extratropical surface cyclogenesis. Divergent air patterns in the upper levels allows rising air to continue to rise, causing a powerful and quick drop in sea level pressure as the divergent flow aloft is carried away at a faster flow then the air that is converging at the surface, there you get your increasing wind speeds and decreasing SLP.
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1326. TropicalAnalystwx13 23:45 GMT le 05 septembre 2011    
Quoting JLPR2:


25minutes before 8pm is a little too much. xD
It's usually out by 7:50pm.


lol, it happens every once in a while, but it is very rare this season. Last year, it was more common.
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1327. tropicfreak 23:45 GMT le 05 septembre 2011    
Quoting Tazmanian:
Jose sould have nevere been ues has a name storm but they did it any way


Well it had a closed circulation, TS Force winds, and a little convection, seemed enough to warrant a TS.
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1328. wolftribe2009 23:45 GMT le 05 septembre 2011    
Quoting NCHurricane2009:


Well...a lot of us argued that Jose shouldn't have been classifed....and this has triggered a lot of debate on this blog....I have mixed results personally on whether Jose should have been classified or not...


well I dont think it really matters. He was named and that is a past event. I say Emily and Don because they really were annoying. Emily because she did whatever she wanted to do and forecasting her was a pain.
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1329. petewxwatcher 23:45 GMT le 05 septembre 2011    
Katia is slowly looking better. An irregular upward trend.

105 kts at 11 p.m. sounds good to me.
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1330. TropicalAnalystwx13 23:45 GMT le 05 septembre 2011    
Quoting Speeky:
Does 95L pose a threat to the US?

I think it may


I agree, with MAY being the key word.
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1331. petewxwatcher 23:46 GMT le 05 septembre 2011    
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1332. 1900hurricane 23:46 GMT le 05 septembre 2011    
Quoting Levi32:


They're getting squished together. The pressure gradient becomes largest at the base of the trough, and thus the stream flow becomes "thinner" if you will, because air flows roughly along geopotential height contours. It's a little confusing because often the jetstream actually flows faster at the base of the trough, which would imply divergence since things are speeding up. However, perhaps the car analogy doesn't work that well here because the air isn't so much slowing down as it is getting squished together, which causes it to pile up regardless of its speed.

I'm not doing a good job of explaining things today, so I'll just let my online textbook from last year do the talking.



Chapter 10
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1333. 996tt 23:47 GMT le 05 septembre 2011    
Preface by saying love to see more action this year, but this front really took a deep dive and temperatures next week here in Florida will be in 60s at night. Seems like this, in the past, has really quelled tropical activity in GOM. We usually get such a front much later in season.
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1334. GTcooliebai 23:47 GMT le 05 septembre 2011    
Quoting FLWeatherFreak91:
Rainy night on tap for Tampa as an area of heavy showers with dispersed thunderstorms moves in off of the gulf.
One of those cells has just spawned a Severe T-Storm Warning for Western Hillsborough County. It's moving ashore South St. Pete as we speak.
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1335. tropicalnewbee 23:47 GMT le 05 septembre 2011    
anyone know the potential for a florida landfall from 95l? it looks very close to the irene track but a bit farther south which puts it coming up the florida coastline. Will there be a trough to pull it north before a fl landfall? It seems the more reliable models like NOGAPS favor a possible east florida landfall. anyone confirm or give thoughts? Thanks.
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1336. dancer146 23:48 GMT le 05 septembre 2011    
Long time lurker, never posted... I call you guys my peeps on weather underground to my friends when they ask me about the weather. I live in Seabrook Texas, learned to follow this blog during Rita and followed here when we went through Ike when we got 12 inches in our house. Can't wait to learn more from you guys. Quick question. We have a lake house in East Texas. I'm looking at wonder maps, but can't figure out the legend. What does each flame mean on the map? Anybody hear know?
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1337. ncstorm 23:49 GMT le 05 septembre 2011    
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1338. JLPR2 23:50 GMT le 05 septembre 2011    
Doing better.
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1339. TropicalAnalystwx13 23:51 GMT le 05 septembre 2011    
Quoting JLPR2:
Doing better.


MUCH improved.
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1340. wolftribe2009 23:52 GMT le 05 septembre 2011    
Well the rain has just about ended here. One last thunderstorm has come in and it is the loudest thunder yet with this system for me. I guess Lee will move out of my area with a bang shall we say lol
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1341. mrpuertorico 23:53 GMT le 05 septembre 2011    
Quoting JLPR2:
Doing better.
holy hole in a donut batman!!
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1342. Clearwater1 23:53 GMT le 05 septembre 2011    
Quoting JLPR2:
Stayed at 60%. That was a quick update from the NHC. It isn't 8pm yet.
How did you get a quick update from the NHC? Do you have connections there?

Edit: I see it now. the 8pm TWO
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1344. Drakoen 23:54 GMT le 05 septembre 2011    
Quoting NCHurricane2009:


But what always bugged me is understanding why the air parcles (cars in the front) slow down on the back side of upper troughs?


On the back side of a trough you have negative vorticity advection where air flows from a region of low vorticity to region of higher vorticity. As the air stream flows towards the based of the trough the winds converge which creates sinking air. In order for the winds to curve the base of the trough they have to slow down because the curve is not instantaneous. When you drive a car do you speed into a curve?
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1345. Dakster 23:54 GMT le 05 septembre 2011    
Quoting tropicalnewbee:
anyone know the potential for a florida landfall from 95l? it looks very close to the irene track but a bit farther south which puts it coming up the florida coastline. Will there be a trough to pull it north before a fl landfall? It seems the more reliable models like NOGAPS favor a possible east florida landfall. anyone confirm or give thoughts? Thanks.


Wow. A little early for that... I don't like the model runs for 95L, but I didn't like them this early in the game for Katia or Irene either and they didn't directly hit Florida. (I will assume that Katia will not pull a fast one and hit Florida)
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1346. Chicklit 23:54 GMT le 05 septembre 2011    


Wow, somepin to watch.
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1347. CCkid00 23:54 GMT le 05 septembre 2011    
Quoting wolftribe2009:


Lee didn't create the wildfires BUT his wind fanned the flames that burned 300+ homes

So he might have not created the wildfire but those 300 homes are his fault. The winds were just too fast for Texas wildfire personnel to get the upper hand on it. Only east texas got rain. Central and west text have gotten very little to nothing on rainfall this year.

i heard that Lee's winds toppled a tree and it hit power lines. if that is true, then technically, Lee would be responsible for starting that fire.
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1348. TropicalAnalystwx13 23:55 GMT le 05 septembre 2011    
Definitely MUCH improved from earlier...Look at the -70C ring of convection wrapping all the way around the eye. Likely 120-125 mph right now...May make a run at Category 4 status.



2011SEP05 231500 6.5 934.6/ -0.4 /127.0 6.3 6.6 6.6 NO LIMIT ON OFF 5.54 -70.53 EYE 28 IR 25.58 63.87 COMBO

ADT says 6.5, or 145 mph. I do not believe the intensity it that high, but it is definitely a solid Category 3 right now. Eye temperature is 5.54, and the deepest of convection is -70.53.

Which they would reposition the satellite...
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1349. thedawnawakening3 23:55 GMT le 05 septembre 2011    
Great job of explaining that process Drak
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1350. wolftribe2009 23:56 GMT le 05 septembre 2011    
Quoting tropicalnewbee:
anyone know the potential for a florida landfall from 95l? it looks very close to the irene track but a bit farther south which puts it coming up the florida coastline. Will there be a trough to pull it north before a fl landfall? It seems the more reliable models like NOGAPS favor a possible east florida landfall. anyone confirm or give thoughts? Thanks.


ask that question in about 3-5 days and you will get a better answer. It is too far to say for sure where 95L will go. However, you should keep an eye on it since earlier the GFS model showed the storm almost slamming into Florida before making a sharp turn to the north. It shows an Irene.
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1351. Clearwater1 23:56 GMT le 05 septembre 2011    
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I see now, you are looking the 8pm TWO and see that there will be no level rise on 95L
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