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Hurricane Rina a Category 2, headed towards the Yucatan
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 13:52 GMT le 25 octobre 2011 +21
Hurricane Rina is now a Category 2 storm, headed slowly west-northwest at 3 mph towards Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula. The most recent hurricane hunter mission was at 4:32 am EDT this morning, and the next aircraft is not due into the storm until this afternoon, so we'll have to rely on satellite estimates of the storm's strength until then. Recent satellite intensity estimates suggest Rina has leveled off in intensity, with no change in strength since the last hurricane hunter mission. A murky, cloud-filled eye is visible on visible satellite loops right now. Rina also has an impressive upper-level outflow channel to the north, and very intense thunderstorms with cold clouds tops that extend up to the stratosphere. Wind shear is a moderate 15 - 20 knots due to strong upper-level winds out of the south, and these winds are injecting dry air into Rina's south side, inhibiting heavy thunderstorm development there. Water temperatures are very warm, 29 - 30°C, and these warm waters extend to great depth. Rina has brought sporadic heavy rain squalls to the Cayman Islands; George Town on Grand Cayman has received 4.76" of rain over the past three days from Rina, as of 9 am EDT this morning.


Figure 1. True-color MODIS image of Tropical Storm Rina taken at 12:15 pm EDT October 24, 2011. Two hours after this image was taken Rina had intensified into a Category 1 hurricane with 75 mph winds. Image credit: NASA.

Forecast for Rina
The hurricane hunters found Rina's eyewall had a gap in it during their 4:32 am EDT eye penetration this morning, probably caused by the moderate wind shear the storm has experienced over the past day. It is unlikely that Rina will be able to "bomb" and undergo rapid intensification unless it can close off this gap in the eyewall. Wind shear is not expected to increase until Wednesday night, so Rina still has a day and a half to continue its intensification process. Given the storm's inability to close off its eyewall so far, I expect that a Category 3 storm is the strongest that we will see. On Wednesday night, Rina will encounter a dry airmass with high wind shear that lies over the extreme northwestern Caribbean. These conditions should weaken the hurricane, but Rina could still be a major hurricane if it makes landfall in the Yucatan Peninsula on Thursday.

A trough of low pressure is predicted to pass to the north of Rina late this week, which should turn Rina more to the northwest by Thursday and northeast on Friday. However, it is uncertain if Rina will be strong enough to fully "feel" the steering influence of this through and be swept to the east-northeast into Southwest Florida and the Florida Keys. If Rina makes landfall in the Yucatan Peninsula and weakens significantly, the storm will likely be too weak to get caught up by the trough and will remain trapped in the Western Caribbean. This is the solution of the latest runs of the ECMWF, UKMET, and HWRF models. However, if Rina remains strong through Friday, it is more likely to get caught up by the trough and drawn into the Florida Keys as a weakening tropical storm on Friday or Saturday. This is the solution of the latest 2 am EDT runs of the GFDL and GFS models. There is high degree of uncertainty which set of model runs will be correct.

Comparing Rina to Hurricane Wilma of 2005
Rina's intensification into a hurricane over the Western Caribbean during the last half of October brings to mind Hurricane Wilma, which also did this in 2005. Wilma went on to become a Category 5 monster, the strongest Atlantic hurricane of all-time. I don't think Rina will be another Wilma, even though the ocean temperatures and total heat content are similar to what Wilma experienced (Figure 3). Wilma had nearly ideal upper-level atmospheric conditions with an anticyclone aloft and light wind shear, under 5 knots. Rina is experiencing 15 - 20 knots of wind shear and is also a smaller storm, and is thus more vulnerable to the effects of wind shear and dry air.


Figure 2. Hurricane Wilma at 8:22 a.m. CDT Oct. 19, 2005 as photographed by the crew aboard NASA's international space station as the complex flew 222 miles above the storm. At the time, Wilma was the strongest Atlantic hurricane in history, with a central pressure of 882 mb and winds of 185 mph. The storm was located in the Caribbean Sea, 340 miles southeast of Cozumel, Mexico, and had an eye just 2.3 miles in diameter, the smallest on record.


Figure 3. The total heat content of the ocean available to fuel hurricane intensification as measured by the Tropical Cyclone Heat Potential (TCHP). Top: TCHP for October 23, 2011, one day before Hurricane Rina of 2011 formed. Bottom: TCHP for October 18, 2005, the day Hurricane Wilma formed. TCHP values in excess of 80 kJ per centimeter squared (yellow colors) are often associated with rapid intensification of hurricanes. Both hurricane had similar very high levels of TCHP to help fuel intensification. Image credit: NOAA/AOML


Figure 4. Wind shear in knots for 09 UTC October 25, 2011, during Hurricane Rina of 2011 (top) and at 21 UTC October 17, 2005, the day before Wilma became a hurricane. A large area of wind shear less than 5 knots lay over Wilma as it was forming, while Rina was under wind shear of 20 knots this morning. Image credit: University of Wisconsin CIMSS.

97L north of the ABC islands
A broad region of low pressure between the ABC islands of Aruba, Bonaire, and Curacao and the Dominican Republic (Invest 97L), is moving west-northwest at 15 - 20 mph. Heavy thunderstorm activity has decreased a little since yesterday, and the activity is not organized into spiral bands, as is apparent from Curacao radar. The storm is surrounded by a large region of dry air, and this dry air is the main impediment to development. Wind shear is a low 5 - 10 knots, and is expected to remain low through Thursday, and 97L will encounter a moister atmosphere as it progresses westward into the Central Caribbean. By the time 97L reaches the region between Jamaica and Nicaragua on Thursday, the storm could develop into a tropical depression. However, none of the reliable models are predicting that 97L will develop. NHC gave 97L a 30% chance of developing into a tropical depression by Thursday, in their 8 am EDT Tropical Weather Outlook. Heavy rains from 97L should reach Jamaica on Thursday, the Cayman Islands by early Friday morning, and south-central Cuba by Friday night.

Geomagentic storm triggers brilliant aurora displays
A Coronal Mass Ejection (CME) that blasted away a portion of the sun's atmosphere earlier this week hit the Earth's magnetic field at 2 pm EDT yesterday. The resulting show of Northern Lights was observed as far south as Arkansas last night. Here in Michigan, I got a call from a neighbor's 12-year old, who was concerned that the sky was all red. Alas, the display was gone by the time I had finished explaining in far too much technical detail what was behind the event!

I'll have a new post on Rina this afternoon.

Jeff Masters
Northern Lights!!! 2011_10_24 (thebige)
In SW MO! Rare, Rare sight!
Northern Lights!!! 2011_10_24
Mid Michigan Aurora 1 (mactoot)
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501. spathy 20:09 GMT le 25 octobre 2011    
Quoting alvarig1263:


They didn't fly through the SE eye wall this time like they did on the initial pass. The first time they flew from NW to SE and found the strongest winds in the SE quadrant but since they flew from NE to SW this time those stronger winds we're not picked up. The next pass should be from SE to NW so the recon should pick up those stronger winds again.


So just a thought.

Timing of Irenes landfall and the haphazard destruction along the coast would be a result of such discrepancies/VARIANCES within a storm,would it not?

ie
You can drive through a 30 car pile up unscathed but the surrounding destruction is horrifying.

Timing and swirl path.
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502. winter123 20:09 GMT le 25 octobre 2011    
Quoting sunlinepr:

97L has such a perfect anticyclone and yet nothing is developing. Why? If anything does develop, it'll be the eastern side of this elongated system, IMO.
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503. wpb 20:09 GMT le 25 octobre 2011    
wind speed forecast has a decaying ts with winds below 45 mph in 106 hours.
agree?
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504. Bergeron 20:09 GMT le 25 octobre 2011    

RINA 18Z DYNAMIC MODEL FORECAST
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505. alvarig1263 20:10 GMT le 25 octobre 2011    
Quoting wunderweatherman123:
thats the SE Eyewall. pressure is still around 970mb and cat 3;s usually have 966mb or less but we will see. im thinking 110 at the 5pm


What do you mean by "that's the SE eye wall"? It is part of Rina and the max winds gotta come from some part of the storm. It is clear that 105 MPH winds are being found around the center. So it definitely isn't weakening. I guess we'll just wait till the next pass through the SE quadrant and see if those winds are found again. That should give the NHC to at least make it a Cat. 3. Whether with 115 MPH winds or 120 MPH winds.
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506. stormpetrol 20:10 GMT le 25 octobre 2011    
Rina has grown in size too, I expect Hurricane force winds to be 35-40 miles from the center and TS winds 140-150 miles out from center.
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507. matilda101 20:10 GMT le 25 octobre 2011    
Usually when a hurricane slows it forward speed it may be the start of a different direction.
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508. weaverwxman 20:10 GMT le 25 octobre 2011    
Too bad the Dolphins are not at home this weekend at least maybe then they could blame the weather.
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509. alvarig1263 20:11 GMT le 25 octobre 2011    
Quoting wpb:
wind speed forecast has a decaying ts with winds below 45 mph in 106 hours.
agree?


All depends on Rina's speed and interaction with land.
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510. sunlinepr 20:11 GMT le 25 octobre 2011    
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511. RitaEvac 20:12 GMT le 25 octobre 2011    
This storm might never make it to Florida, so be prepared for that, gonna be a lot of sad folks on here
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512. TropicalAnalystwx13 20:13 GMT le 25 octobre 2011    
Q: Guesses of Hurricane Rina's intensity at 5PM?

A. 105 mph
B. 110 mph
C. 115 mph
D. 120 mph
E. Higher or lower than listed
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513. spathy 20:13 GMT le 25 octobre 2011    
I hate to be a NUDGE here but is this scenario possible?


Quoting spathy:


97L is very odd.
Its almost as if the UL Anticyclone has dug down towards the surface and is chopping off any cyclonic spin.
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514. alvarig1263 20:14 GMT le 25 octobre 2011    
Quoting RitaEvac:
This storm might never make it to Florida, so be prepared for that, gonna be a lot of sad folks on here


Lol
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515. BaltimoreBrian 20:14 GMT le 25 octobre 2011    
Let's see.

Rina intensified rapidly yesterday, more slowly last night and this morning and is pausing now.

Most models seem to take her to south Florida or the Florida straits as a weakening storm.

Conditions remain favorable for further strengthening for a while but Rina is small and intensity fluctuations could be rapid and hard to predict.

93 hour 12Z GFS model forecast is clickable and expandable.

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516. Bergeron 20:15 GMT le 25 octobre 2011    
RINA RAMSDIS LOOP

Link
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517. alvarig1263 20:15 GMT le 25 octobre 2011    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Q: Guesses of Hurricane Rina's intensity at 5PM?

A. 105 mph
B. 110 mph
C. 115 mph
D. 120 mph
E. Higher or lower than listed


I'd go with:

C. 115 MPH.

But I would like to see what recon finds again in the center before 5PM and that will either change or solidify my answer.
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519. BaltimoreBrian 20:16 GMT le 25 octobre 2011    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Q: Guesses of Hurricane Rina's intensity at 5PM?

A. 105 mph
B. 110 mph
C. 115 mph
D. 120 mph
E. Higher or lower than listed


I will go with A
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520. RitaEvac 20:16 GMT le 25 octobre 2011    
Powerhouse front blasting down the plains late this week gonna cause Rina to back in reverse and say the hell with Florida and either just die and commit suicide from shear or high tail it across Cuba and run to Atlantic
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521. alvarig1263 20:16 GMT le 25 octobre 2011    
Quoting RitaEvac:
Powerhouse front blasting down the plains late this week gonna cause Rina to back in reverse and say the hell with Florida and either just die and commit suicide from shear or high tail it across Cuba and run to Atlantic


I guess we'll see....
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522. timswunderblog 20:17 GMT le 25 octobre 2011    
Usaf earlier founds winds at 140 in the south east and east eyewall i would say five P.M. advisory winds at 115 to 120 and pressure 968 to 969.
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523. wpb 20:17 GMT le 25 octobre 2011    
gulfstream jet about %50 percent complete
with there recon. over the nw carb now
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524. matilda101 20:17 GMT le 25 octobre 2011    
My gut feeling is that Rina may have started more of the NW turn that is in the forecast
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525. Gorty 20:17 GMT le 25 octobre 2011    
I hope 97L gets to a TS in Oct so we can have 3 named storms for the month oh wait... see what I did there?
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526. Dragod66 20:17 GMT le 25 octobre 2011    
nice new burst of convection
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527. Patrap 20:18 GMT le 25 octobre 2011    

Storm Relative 1km Geostationary Visible Imagery


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528. sunlinepr 20:18 GMT le 25 octobre 2011    
Levi posted an update....Link
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529. Patrap 20:19 GMT le 25 octobre 2011    
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530. wpb 20:20 GMT le 25 octobre 2011    
noaa p-3 mission on the way out of tampa
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531. Bergeron 20:20 GMT le 25 octobre 2011    
Hot tower right on the eyewall

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532. Sfloridacat5 20:20 GMT le 25 octobre 2011    
Quoting alvarig1263:


I guess we'll see....


Yeah, I would never bet against Rina. Rina has been proving the "experts" including THC wrong from the very beginning.

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533. BaltimoreBrian 20:20 GMT le 25 octobre 2011    
With recon showing a pressure of 972 mb at their 19:23Z vortex message unless there is another penetration very soon that shows a pressure drop I don't seem the NHC increasing the winds beyond 90 knots. They are probably writing up their public advisory and discussion now.
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534. thunderbug91 20:21 GMT le 25 octobre 2011    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Q: Guesses of Hurricane Rina's intensity at 5PM?

A. 105 mph
B. 110 mph
C. 115 mph
D. 120 mph
E. Higher or lower than listed


B
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535. Patrap 20:21 GMT le 25 octobre 2011    
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536. alvarig1263 20:21 GMT le 25 octobre 2011    
Recon Plane Update:

Main recon plane on it's way back in. About 15 minutes from the center.

"Kermit" recon plane just took off from Tampa, and is heading to Rina now about 720 miles from the center.

GI-V (Gonzo) plane is making it's way around the east side of Rina collecting data for the computer models.
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537. niederwaldboy 20:21 GMT le 25 octobre 2011    
Hey freakshows, it is RINA, not RITA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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538. Gorty 20:22 GMT le 25 octobre 2011    
Does Rina threaten the same areas as 2005's Wilma?
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539. timswunderblog 20:22 GMT le 25 octobre 2011    
Quoting thunderbug91:


B
D.
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540. wunderkidcayman 20:23 GMT le 25 octobre 2011    
97L is going to get its self in a better position of development late tonight and into the morning

now with Rina if she truly started her Northery movement I say it will start it NE-ENE movement early as well and if that is th case it would be making that NE-ENE movement South of Cuba
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541. TropicalAnalystwx13 20:24 GMT le 25 octobre 2011    
Quoting wunderkidcayman:
97L is going to get its self in a better position of development late tonight and into the morning

now with Rina if she truly started her Northery movement I say it will start it NE-ENE movement early as well and if that is th case it would be making that NE-ENE movement South of Cuba

97L has been put in deactivation mode...At least for now.
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542. wunderweatherman123 20:25 GMT le 25 octobre 2011    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Q: Guesses of Hurricane Rina's intensity at 5PM?

A. 105 mph
B. 110 mph
C. 115 mph
D. 120 mph
E. Higher or lower than listed
B because there is not enough evidence at the moment to call her a 3. im thinking she makes landfall as a 65mph ts anywhere to a 80mph cat 1. if she moves faster in the gulf then she might maintain some of her intensity :P
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543. ChrisDcat5Storm 20:25 GMT le 25 octobre 2011    
Quoting wunderkidcayman:
97L is going to get its self in a better position of development late tonight and into the morning

now with Rina if she truly started her Northery movement I say it will start it NE-ENE movement early as well and if that is th case it would be making that NE-ENE movement South of Cuba


really your praying for rina to turn right into your little island cmon man
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544. Sfloridacat5 20:26 GMT le 25 octobre 2011    
Quoting wunderkidcayman:
97L is going to get its self in a better position of development late tonight and into the morning

now with Rina if she truly started her Northery movement I say it will start it NE-ENE movement early as well and if that is th case it would be making that NE-ENE movement South of Cuba


Rina is wobbling, but overall she's following the current NHC forecasted path moving WNW.
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545. interstatelover7165 20:27 GMT le 25 octobre 2011    
...Heading to the center one last time...
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546. alvarig1263 20:27 GMT le 25 octobre 2011    
Quoting ChrisDcat5Storm:


really your praying for rina to turn right into your little island cmon man


Lol
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547. Bordonaro 20:27 GMT le 25 octobre 2011    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Q: Guesses of Hurricane Rina's intensity at 5PM?

A. 105 mph
B. 110 mph
C. 115 mph
D. 120 mph
E. Higher or lower than listed

B. Only one reading was over 110 MPH, but it was a contaminated reading :)
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548. BaltimoreBrian 20:28 GMT le 25 octobre 2011    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

97L has been put in deactivation mode...At least for now.


That's interesting. I saw last night after getting in from neighbors that a special tropical weather outlook had been issued and the probability raised to 40%

I've seen special advisories and even special tropical disturbance statements. But I don't remember a special tropical weather outlook being issued before.
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549. 954FtLCane 20:29 GMT le 25 octobre 2011    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Q: Guesses of Hurricane Rina's intensity at 5PM?

A. 105 mph
B. 110 mph
C. 115 mph
D. 120 mph
E. Higher or lower than listed

C. 115
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550. TropicalAnalystwx13 20:29 GMT le 25 octobre 2011    
Quoting Bordonaro:

B. Only one reading was over 110 MPH, but it was a contaminated reading :)

There were several.
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551. Bordonaro 20:31 GMT le 25 octobre 2011    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

There were several.

We will find out within 29 mins. Either a 110 or 115 MPH Rina at 5 PM.
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