Bitter cold in Alaska and Europe; Alaska's -79°F reading bogus

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 16:08 GMT le 31 janvier 2012

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Bitter cold temperatures gripped much of Alaska again this morning, and the month of January is setting numerous records for coldest January on record for much of northern Alaska. According to the Fairbanks weather office, here are the likely final rankings for January temperatures at select locations in Alaska during 2012:

Nome: coldest
Kotzebue: 2nd coldest
Barrow: not in top ten coldest
Galena: coldest
Bettles: coldest
Fairbanks: 5th coldest (coldest since 1971)

A major atmospheric jet stream pattern change is underway this week, though, which will bring more seasonable temperatures to Alaska by late in the week.


Figure 1. Departure of temperature from average as analyzed by the GFS model, for January 30, 2012. Remarkably cold air was present over northern Alaska, Eastern Europe, and Southern Asia, while very warm air was over the Central U.S. and much of Siberia.

European cold wave kills 58
Alaska isn't the only place suffering exceptionally cold temperatures this week. At least 58 people have died in the European cold wave over the past week, according to ABC News. Hardest hit was the Ukraine, where 30 people, most of them homeless, died.

Alaska's -79°F reading bogus
I reported in yesterday's post that a personal weather station located about 180 miles north of Fairbanks, the Jim River DOT site, apparently recorded a low temperature of -79°F Saturday morning (January 28, 2012). This is very close to the coldest temperature ever recorded in the U.S., a remarkable -80°F (-62.2°C) reading from Prospect Creek, AK (about a mile away from Jim Creek), on January 23, 1971. However, it turns out the that the electronic temperature sensor on the weather station at Jim Creek is only rated to -40°F. Furthermore, the voltage on the lithium battery that powers the stations drops dramatically below -50°F, resulting in bogus low temperatures. Here is the official work on the low temperatures at Jim River from the NWS:

PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE FAIRBANKS AK
252 PM AKST MON JAN 30 2012

...CLARIFICATION OF TEMPERATURES FROM JIM RIVER DOT CAMP...

TEMPERATURES THIS PAST WEEKEND AT THE ALASKA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION JIM RIVER MAINTENANCE CAMP AT MILE 138 DALTON HIGHWAY...STATION JMTA2...HAVE BEEN REPORTED AS LOW AS 79 BELOW.

THE TEMPERATURES ARE NOT CORRECT. THE WEATHER STATION IN USE AT THE JIM RIVER DOT CAMP IS A PERSONAL WEATHER STATION THAT IS NOT RATED FOR TEMPERATURE COLDER THAN 40 BELOW. THE UNREALISTICALLY LOW TEMPERATURES ARE BELIEVED TO BE A FUNCTION OF THE BATTERY FAILING AT VERY LOW TEMPERATURES.

THERE ARE NO OFFICIAL...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE STANDARD...TEMPERATURE MEASUREMENTS AT JIM RIVER DOT CAMP.

Jeff Masters

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This photo was taken during the latest CME solar energy to arrive from the sun. During this time we are also having our coldest temperatures of the winter, -55F when this photo was taken.
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290. hydrus
15:49 GMT le 01 février 2012
This would be interesting..If it panned out..
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289. presslord
15:29 GMT le 01 février 2012
Quoting Neapolitan:
Because the amount of peer-reviewed science Rutan has produced that refutes CAGW theory is exactly equivalent to the amount of "stuff" Trump's "investigators" found in Hawaii that "proved" Obama wasn't born there. In other words, absolutely nothing.

I tried to go through Rutan's colorful collage o'climate stuff, but stopped several pages in after realizing, as Xyrus noted, that he was showing nothing but the same "falsehood, distortion, and FUD from deniers, complete with several emotional diatribes and personal attacks". Not worth the bother, in other words; we can see the same by flipping on over to WUWT, et al.


I have a feeling I know what this means...but I'm not 100% certain...Is it a reference to quality of data?
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288. Neapolitan
14:17 GMT le 01 février 2012
Quoting JupiterKen:
And... what does Trump and Obama have to do with any of this?
Because the amount of peer-reviewed science Rutan has produced that refutes CAGW theory is exactly equivalent to the amount of "stuff" Trump's "investigators" found in Hawaii that "proved" Obama wasn't born there. In other words, absolutely nothing.

I tried to go through Rutan's colorful collage o'climate stuff, but stopped several pages in after realizing, as Xyrus noted, that he was showing nothing but the same "falsehood, distortion, and FUD from deniers, complete with several emotional diatribes and personal attacks". Not worth the bother, in other words; we can see the same by flipping on over to WUWT, et al.
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287. presslord
14:12 GMT le 01 février 2012
...and...the gas in the Harley is heavily subsidized by....well....you know....
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286. Neapolitan
14:08 GMT le 01 février 2012
Quoting trunkmonkey:
Neapoliton, this warm weather in Indiana saved my poor old mother money on heating her home, now she have money for other things,Plus the NFL likes Indiana weather this year, 58F last nite in Superbowl village, all those businesses making a profit, I had my Harley out on the road with the wind in my face, and it was warm. Reminds me of Isaac Hays song Freedom, I used to listen to back in the Woodstock days!
I love freedom, and hate government intervention!

Sincerely, X Hippie, and X government protester!
New freedom lover!
About that road on which you were riding; was that a public highway built by the DOT? And the stadium in which the Super Bowl will be played: wasn't it majority-financed by the State of Indiana, the City of Indianapolis, and several of the counties in the area?

It's difficult to get away from that pesky old "government intervention", isn't it?
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285. washingtonian115
14:03 GMT le 01 février 2012
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Looks like we'll make it up near 75 °F today.

That's just great on February 1 :)

Let's not forget what was occurring this time last year.

I still can't get over that picture.It looked like an apocolypes had happened.Sorta similar to the 1st episode of the walking dead.
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284. JupiterKen
13:15 GMT le 01 février 2012
Quoting Xyrus2000:


No. No he doesn't. Everything he wrote in his response is either a twisted misrepresentation or an outright lie. It is quite clear that he has no clue about climate modeling or climate science, and certainly no clue about the impacts of additional CO2 in the atmosphere.

More to the point, in spite of allegedly having all this proof the climate science is a giant fraud, there are no papers coming from him. There is no data to review, no experiments to reproduce, and no results to verify. He's basically acting exactly like Donald Trump did when supposedly investigating President Obama: "You wouldn't believe the stuff we've been finding." Of course we wouldn't believe it since it was all made up.

His "proof" (available from his link) almost makes me thinks his doing this just get a laugh out of everyone. It is an embodiment of just about every single falsehood, distortion, and FUD from deniers, complete with a several emotional diatribes and personal attacks. It's like he took all the posts from Climate Audit and WUWT and distilled it into a powerpoint presentation.

His "paper" wouldn't last 5 seconds before a professional review board. And in fact, his previous attempts at "debating" scientists has revealed and incredible amount of ignorance about climate in general. Which shouldn't really be all that surprising considering that his field of expertise is aerospace engineering.

The guy may be a great engineer, but he is by no means a climate science expert, and it shows in his rantings against the "conspiracy" (yes he is a climate science conspiracy nutter) as well as his writings on the subject.

Even Watts and McIntyre have contributed a rare useful piece of information. Rutan hasn't even done that much.

For a more Rutan "discussion", you can go here. This, by the way, appears to be his typical MO when it comes to climate science.


Did you peruse Burt's entire 98 page .ppt presentation? Thought not. And... what does Trump and Obama have to do with any of this? Now let me see, should I believe your opinion or the facts?
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283. RTSplayer
13:03 GMT le 01 février 2012
Quoting trunkmonkey:
Neapoliton, this warm weather in Indiana saved my poor old mother money on heating her home, now she have money for other things,Plus the NFL likes Indiana weather this year, 58F last nite in Superbowl village, all those businesses making a profit, I had my Harley out on the road with the wind in my face, and it was warm. Reminds me of Isaac Hays song Freedom, I used to listen to back in the Woodstock days!
I love freedom, and hate government intervention!

Sincerely, X Hippie, and X government protester!
New freedom lover!


So, you don't like Roads, electricity, public education, or the internet? Those things were all developed and/or heavily funded by the government.

You don't like bridges, dams, and levees?

You don't like street lights or traffic signals that save lives?

Meh.

Everyone is a socialist, they're just too blind to realize it.

Bill O'Reilly and Glenn Beck are socialists as well, but they don't realize it either.
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282. RTSplayer
12:57 GMT le 01 février 2012
My God.

11 degree break in Iowa, and I found another 9 degree break in Missouri.

There are several 5 to 9 degree breaks in iowa and Missouri.

These numbers are as absurd as last year's summer record breaks.
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281. SPLbeater
12:56 GMT le 01 février 2012
Quoting wxmod:


Contrails decrease the temperature difference between elevations in the atmosphere. If there's no difference, then there's no lift, so there's no thunderstorm for SPLbeater to watch. Ouch. That hurts.


lol, you act as if i beleive that xD
Quoting AtHomeInTX:
Whoa! Got thunder and everything with this rain. Sorry Beater. ;)



always nextime....:D
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280. trunkmonkey
12:53 GMT le 01 février 2012
Neapoliton, this warm weather in Indiana saved my poor old mother money on heating her home, now she have money for other things,Plus the NFL likes Indiana weather this year, 58F last nite in Superbowl village, all those businesses making a profit, I had my Harley out on the road with the wind in my face, and it was warm. Reminds me of Isaac Hays song Freedom, I used to listen to back in the Woodstock days!
I love freedom, and hate government intervention!

Sincerely, X Hippie, and X government protester!
New freedom lover!
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279. TropicalAnalystwx13
12:50 GMT le 01 février 2012
Looks like we'll make it up near 75 °F today.

That's just great on February 1 :)

Let's not forget what was occurring this time last year.

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278. Neapolitan
12:49 GMT le 01 février 2012
Speaking of abnormal temperatures, I ran across the following article in Monday's Grand Forks [ND] Herald:

Grand Forks sees record-breaking fall, winter

The Red River Valley is on its way to the warmest fall and winter on record.

Unofficially, the average daily temperature between Sept. 1 and Jan. 29 has been 35.9 degrees in Grand Forks.

That's nearly 2 degrees above the previous record average of 34.1 in 2006, according to the National Weather Service office in Grand Forks.

In Fargo, the average daily temperature has been 38.2, breaking the old mark of 36.7, set in 1932 and matched in 2006.

"When you look at 150 days, and you%u2019re looking at 1-plus degrees over the previous records, that's pretty impressive," said Mark Ewens, climate forecaster for the weather service in Grand Forks.

- - - - - - -

"It's unusual and it's record-setting. But we've had similar occurrences in the last decade," Ewens said. "With all the snow we've had these last three years before this one, we kind of forget that we've had some warm winters recently."

In fact, considering the September-through-January period, six of the Top 10 warmest falls and winters in Grand Forks have occurred since the 1999-2000 seasons: 2000, 2002, 2006, 2007, 2010 and 2012.

Fargo, meanwhile, has experienced four of its Top 10 warmest falls and winters since the 2001-2002 seasons: 2002, 2006, 2007 and 2012.

The weather service acknowledges that climate change has contributed to the warmer winters over the past few decades.

In Grand Forks, all of the Top 10 records -- again for Sept. 1-Jan. 29 -- have occurred since 1981, with three in the 1980s, but just one in the 1990s.
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277. GeoffreyWPB
12:44 GMT le 01 février 2012
From Miami NWS...

JANUARY HAS BEEN A VERY DRY MONTH ACROSS SOUTH FLORIDA. AT MIAMI
INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT ONLY 0.21 INCHES FELL SO FAR FOR THE MONTH
WHICH IS THE 7TH DRIEST MONTH ON RECORD WITH THE DRIEST BEING 0.04
INCHES BACK IN 1951. FORT LAUDERDALE INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT HAS ONLY
RECEIVED 0.20 INCHES SO FAR FOR THE MONTH WHICH IS THE 5TH DRIEST
ON RECORD WITH THE DRIEST BEING 0.00 ON 1951, 1949, AND 1917. WEST
PALM BEACH INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT HAS ONLY RECEIVED 0.38 INCHES OF
RAINFALL SO FAR FOR THE MONTH WHICH IS THE 10TH DRIEST MONTH ON
RECORD WITH THE DRIEST BEING 0.11 INCHES BACK IN 2009. NAPLES
REGIONAL AIRPORT HAS ONLY RECEIVED 0.17 INCHES SO FAR FOR THE
MONTH WHICH IS THE 6TH DRIEST ON RECORD WITH THE DRIEST BEING 0.00
INCHES BACK IN 1949.
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276. Neapolitan
12:27 GMT le 01 février 2012
Quoting FormerAussie:
Interesting map here in the UK, where until this last week it's been a record-breaking warm and wet winter. In the English Lake District there were only seven dry days in the last three months of the year, and after last winter, when it was regularly freezing hard all day through December, this winter we're still barely having frosts. Newspapers are going ape about the cold weather on its way for weeks, but that's what is technically known as rubbish IMHO
That's happened here, as well; in many places--including this forum--I've seen winter lovers become hopeful for one cold weather forecast after another, only to have their hopes dashed when it doesn't pan out. And things aren't looking too much chillier, at least for this first week of February; the following maps from HAMweather show low temperature anomalies forecast for the next five days across the continental U.S.. There's definitely a bit of moderation expected, especially in the West. But most folks will have to hold off on building fresh snowmen for at least another week:

Warm

Warm

Warm

Warm

Warm
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275. RTSplayer
12:25 GMT le 01 février 2012
Quoting WxGeekVA:
There is no way that it should only get down to 52F for a low in Northern Virginia in January....


Totally screwed up high / High Mins records

Terry, Montana had a 9 degree High Min record break.

Cassville Ranger Stn, Mo. 7 degree High Min record break.

Tipton 5 SW, IN. 8 degree High Max break.

Numerous other 3 to 5 degree breaks.

238 to 1 highs and high min breaks vs 1 cold break (and I think the cold break is just a tie, and probably just bad data. 15 degrees seems fishy in Florida.)
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274. WxGeekVA
12:16 GMT le 01 février 2012
There is no way that it should only get down to 52F for a low in Northern Virginia in January....
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273. FormerAussie
11:07 GMT le 01 février 2012
Interesting map here in the UK, where until this last week it's been a record-breaking warm and wet winter. In the English Lake District there were only seven dry days in the last three months of the year, and after last winter, when it was regularly freezing hard all day through December, this winter we're still barely having frosts. Newspapers are going ape about the cold weather on its way for weeks, but that's what is technically known as rubbish IMHO
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272. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)
10:34 GMT le 01 février 2012
Fiji Meteorological Services
Tropical Disturbance Advisory #11
TROPICAL DEPRESSION 07F
18:00 PM FST February 1 2012
======================================

At 6:00 AM UTC, Tropical Depression 07F (997 hPa) located at 20.2S 172.5E has 10 minute sustained winds of 25 knots. The depression is reported as moving southerly at 20 knots. Position poor based on multisatellite visible/infrared imagery with animation and peripheral surface observation

Organization started to deteriorate significantly as of midday today. Deep convection has been detached from the low level circulation center due to the influence of strong shear. System is moving towards the south. Sea surface temperature around 26C

Global models are moving the system to the southwest with little intensification. This might be due to extratropical transition.

Potential for this system to develop into a tropical cyclone in the next 24 hours is low.
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271. jamesrainier
07:31 GMT le 01 février 2012
Tornado Warning
Statement as of 1:26 AM CST on February 01, 2012

The National Weather Service in Lake Charles has issued a

* Tornado Warning for...
southwestern Avoyelles Parish in central Louisiana...
this includes Bunkie...
northeastern Evangeline Parish in central Louisiana...
northwestern St. Landry Parish in central Louisiana...

* until 200 am CST

* at 122 am CST... National Weather Service meteorologists detected a
severe thunderstorm capable of producing a tornado near Pine
Prairie... moving northeast at 30 mph.

* Other locations in the warning include but are not limited to Bayou
Chicot... Chicot State Park... Indian Lake and Whiteville
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270. jamesrainier
07:24 GMT le 01 février 2012
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269. jamesrainier
07:08 GMT le 01 février 2012
105 am CST Wed Feb 1 2012

...A Tornado Warning remains in effect until 130 am CST for central
Evangeline Parish...

At 1259 am CST...National Weather Service meteorologists detected a
tornado. This tornado was located 9 miles southwest of Pine
Prairie..moving northeast at 35 mph.

The tornado will otherwise remain over mainly rural areas of the
indicated Parish.


TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE LAKE CHARLES LA
1254 AM CST WED FEB 1 2012

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN LAKE CHARLES HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
CENTRAL EVANGELINE PARISH IN CENTRAL LOUISIANA...
EAST CENTRAL ALLEN PARISH IN SOUTHWEST LOUISIANA...

* UNTIL 130 AM CST

* AT 1253 AM CST...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE METEOROLOGISTS DETECTED A
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A TORNADO NEAR BOND...
MOVING NORTHEAST AT 35 MPH.

* OTHER LOCATIONS IN THE WARNING INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO
BEAVER AND PINE PRAIRIE
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268. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)
06:17 GMT le 01 février 2012
Tropical Cyclone Warning Center Brisbane
Tropical Cyclone Outlook
FORECAST FOR EASTERN AUSTRALIA REGION BETWEEN 142E-160E SOUTH OF 10S
2:30 pm EST February 2012
===================================

The monsoon trough extends across north Queensland and the northern Coral Sea and is expected to develop further over the next few days. A weak low currently sits over eastern Gulf of Carpentaria waters and is forecast to move east into the Coral Sea late in the week. The low is forecast to develop further over the Coral Sea and continue to move east, away from the Queensland coast, into the weekend. If this low does become a tropical cyclone it is unlikely to have any significant impacts along the Queensland coast.

Tropical Cyclone Formation Potential
====================================

Thursday: Low
Friday: Moderate
Saturday: Moderate
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267. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod)
06:16 GMT le 01 février 2012
Quoting KoritheMan:


Agreed. I told my dad "So they say the world ends this year. I hope I go out with a hurricane."
nothing truly ends,the universe wastes nothing,it simply transforms
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266. GTcooliebai
06:06 GMT le 01 février 2012
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265. KoritheMan
05:49 GMT le 01 février 2012
Sadly I didn't grow up with the uncut iteration, where she grabs a gun and attempts to kill him.
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264. KoritheMan
05:45 GMT le 01 février 2012
Quoting Grothar:



...and the thunder rolls.


Every light is burning
in the house across town

She's pacing by the telephone
in her faded flannel gown

Asking for a miracle
Hoping she's not right

Praying it's the weather
that's kept him out all night

And the thunder rolls
And the thunder rolls

Yeah, you can tell I grew up with this song. :P
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263. Grothar
05:41 GMT le 01 février 2012
Quoting KoritheMan:


The thunder rolls
and the lightning strikes

Another love grows cold
on a sleepless night



...and the thunder rolls.
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262. KoritheMan
05:30 GMT le 01 février 2012
Quoting AtHomeInTX:
Whoa! Got thunder and everything with this rain. Sorry Beater. ;)



The thunder rolls
and the lightning strikes

Another love grows cold
on a sleepless night
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261. AtHomeInTX
05:28 GMT le 01 février 2012
Whoa! Got thunder and everything with this rain. Sorry Beater. ;)

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260. Grothar
04:51 GMT le 01 février 2012
93P


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259. PensacolaDoug
04:50 GMT le 01 février 2012
Quoting Xyrus2000:


No. No he doesn't. Everything he wrote in his response is either a twisted misrepresentation or an outright lie. It is quite clear that he has no clue about climate modeling or climate science, and certainly no clue about the impacts of additional CO2 in the atmosphere.

More to the point, in spite of allegedly having all this proof the climate science is a giant fraud, there are no papers coming from him. There is no data to review, no experiments to reproduce, and no results to verify. He's basically acting exactly like Donald Trump did when supposedly investigating President Obama: "You wouldn't believe the stuff we've been finding." Of course we wouldn't believe it since it was all made up.

His "proof" (available from his link) almost makes me thinks his doing this just get a laugh out of everyone. It is an embodiment of just about every single falsehood, distortion, and FUD from deniers, complete with a several emotional diatribes and personal attacks. It's like he took all the posts from Climate Audit and WUWT and distilled it into a powerpoint presentation.

His "paper" wouldn't last 5 seconds before a professional review board. And in fact, his previous attempts at "debating" scientists has revealed and incredible amount of ignorance about climate in general. Which shouldn't really be all that surprising considering that his field of expertise is aerospace engineering.

The guy may be a great engineer, but he is by no means a climate science expert, and it shows in his rantings against the "conspiracy" (yes he is a climate science conspiracy nutter) as well as his writings on the subject.

Even Watts and McIntyre have contributed a rare useful piece of information. Rutan hasn't even done that much.

For a more Rutan "discussion", you can go here. This, by the way, appears to be his typical MO when it comes to climate science.



Hi Nea.
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258. Grothar
04:48 GMT le 01 février 2012
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257. sunlinepr
04:19 GMT le 01 février 2012
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256. sunlinepr
04:15 GMT le 01 février 2012
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255. TomTaylor
04:10 GMT le 01 février 2012
Quoting SPLbeater:
WHy is every1 concerned about contrails???
do you even believe in contrails?
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254. sunlinepr
04:08 GMT le 01 février 2012
Quoting ShenValleyFlyFish:


Don't forget, wherever you are, Big Brother is Watching:

From the BBC
31 January 2012 Last updated at 07:51 ET

Caution on Twitter urged as tourists barred from US



Oh, noooo, must be the season of the Witch...



When I look out my window,
Many sights to see.
And when I look in my window,
So many different people to be
That it's strange, so strange.
You've got to pick up every stitch,
You've got to pick up every stitch,
You've got to pick up every stitch,
Mm, must be the season of the witch,
Must be the season of the witch, yeah,
Must be the season of the witch.
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253. wxmod
04:07 GMT le 01 février 2012
Quoting SPLbeater:


too much money, or too pathetic to think about anything else? lol.

contrails aint never hurt noone. and they wont. :D

With that note, i finish bassin, and 2 bed.


Contrails decrease the temperature difference between elevations in the atmosphere. If there's no difference, then there's no lift, so there's no thunderstorm for SPLbeater to watch. Ouch. That hurts.
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252. SPLbeater
03:58 GMT le 01 février 2012
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251. RTSplayer
03:56 GMT le 01 février 2012
Quoting Patrap:
The Contrail's contain Zirconium Nyborg they said too.

That stuff aint cheap..Hans Solo use to run it out the Daga Bah System with the Millennium Falcon under the decking plates.


Exactly what Han smuggled for Jabba is never given in the Star Wars movies, unless I missed something in the umpteen times I watched it.

In the Jedi Academy Trilogy, it is revealed that Han Solo smuggled "Glitterstim Spice," which is used as a recreational drug. Apparently it is a stimulant, and an aphrodesiac, and also temporarily gives the user "real" telepathic abilities, i.e. not a hallucinogen.


To be honest, I always thought he was smuggling something like weapons or maybe "information".

Who knew Han was a drug dealer?
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250. SPLbeater
03:56 GMT le 01 février 2012
Quoting wxmod:


Same reason you said Bill Gates was an idiot. Connect thy brain.


too much money, or too pathetic to think about anything else? lol.

contrails aint never hurt noone. and they wont. :D

With that note, i finish bassin, and 2 bed.
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249. bappit
03:56 GMT le 01 février 2012
"They found hot spots of these clouds over the United States and Europe, as well as the North Atlantic travel corridor."

What exactly is a "hot spot"?

"On their own, aircraft-generated cirrus produces a global climate forcing of about 40 milliwatts per square meter. (In contrast, the solar cycle results in changes of about a full watt/M2.) But these clouds suppressed the formation of natural cirrus clouds, which partially offset the impact of the aircraft-generated ones, reducing the figure to about 30 mW/M2. That still leaves it among the most significant contribution to the climate produced by aircraft."

This sounds ominous. Odd that this article never says what the exact effect is. I am sure that contrails have an effect and that they are worth studying, but this article seems to swing and miss.
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248. Patrap
03:56 GMT le 01 février 2012
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247. Patrap
03:53 GMT le 01 février 2012
..Tin Foil does not reflect the Shorter Waves.

Lead is heavy and hard to fold too
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246. wxmod
03:52 GMT le 01 février 2012
Quoting SPLbeater:
WHy is every1 concerned about contrails???


Same reason you said Bill Gates was an idiot. Connect thy brain.
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245. Patrap
03:50 GMT le 01 février 2012
www.solarham.com

Updated 1/31/2012 @ 18:27 UTC

Solar Update

Solar activity remains low with only B-Class activity detected within the past 24 hours. Regions 1411 in the south and 1413 in the north, are both slowly showing signs of sunspot growth. A small new sunspot looks to be forming to the north of 1408 on Tuesday. There will be a chance for a C-Class flare in the next 24 hours.

After several days at S1 to S2 Radiation Storm levels, the proton flux is now below the S1 Minor Storm threshold.


[SDO] AIA 171

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244. ShenValleyFlyFish
03:50 GMT le 01 février 2012
Quoting hurricanehunter27:
Well good night everyone. Remember to brush your teeth. Vermin Supreme is watching you.


You got to ask, why isn't this guy rich? Some of the folks with super-pacs make him look positively bland.
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243. wxmod
03:49 GMT le 01 février 2012
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
does that mean i should shut off the ultra zonic wave generating device that was drop off to me from my friends


Keep it on a little bit longer. The ham's almost cooked.
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242. SPLbeater
03:49 GMT le 01 février 2012
WHy is every1 concerned about contrails???
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241. MTWX
03:49 GMT le 01 février 2012
Kinda reminds me of a story I heard a few years ago involoving cloud seeding. (not sure if true or not)but apparently somewhere in eastern europe during the massive drought they thought it was a good idea to try and seed clouds with powdered concrete. Needless to say that didn't end up too well... the water mixed with the powder and fell as concrete "hail" some chunks as large as basketballs!
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240. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod)
03:46 GMT le 01 février 2012
Quoting presslord:
George Noory has a guest on who has drawn a conclusive connection between chemtrails and EMP (electro magnetic pulse)assaults on the United States by interstellar aliens......
does that mean i should shut off the ultra zonic wave generating device that was drop off to me from my friends
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