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Gulf of Mexico disturbance 96L poorly organized, but may develop
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 14:27 GMT le 22 juin 2012 +33
An area of low pressure and heavy thunderstorms in the Southern Gulf of Mexico (designated 96L by NHC Thursday afternoon) is a threat to become a tropical depression this weekend, and all interests along the Gulf of Mexico coast should pay attention to the progress of this disturbance. The disturbance is bringing occasional heavy rains to Western Cuba, South Florida, and Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula. Top winds measured in the surrounding ocean areas this morning were 27 mph, gusting to 34 mph, at the Yucatan Basin buoy between Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula and the Cayman Islands. Our wundermap for the surrounding ocean areas show a ship that measured sustained winds of 30 mph near the western tip of Cuba this morning. Satellite-based surface wind measurements from the newly-available Oceansat-2 scatterometer, courtesy of India, show no signs of a surface circulation. Visible satellite loops show that 96L is less organized than it was Thursday evening, with only a little low-level spin apparent, and a modest area of disorganized thunderstorms. The decrease in organization is probably due to the moderate to high levels of wind shear of 15 - 25 knots over the region. Water vapor satellite loops show a modest region of dry air over the Central Gulf of Mexico, which is interfering with development. Ocean temperatures are 81 - 83°F in the Western Caribbean and Southern Gulf of Mexico, which is about 1°F above average, and warm enough to support formation of a tropical storm. A hurricane hunter mission is scheduled to investigate 96L this afternoon, but this mission will probably be cancelled due to the disturbance's lack of organization.


Figure 1. Morning satellite image of the tropical disturbance 96L in the Southern Gulf of Mexico.

Forecast for 96L
Wind shear is predicted to remain in the moderate range through Saturday night, which is likely low enough to allow 96L to develop into a tropical depression; NHC gave 96L a 70% chance of developing into a tropical depression by Sunday morning, in their 8am EDT Tropical Weather Outlook. By Sunday, wind shear is predicted to increase, limiting 96L's potential for intensification. Where the storm might go is anybody's guess. The GFS model has consistently been predicting that a trough of low pressure pushing off of the U.S. East Coast will be capable of grabbing the disturbance and accelerating it to the northeast across Florida north of Tampa Bay on Sunday or Monday. However, an ensemble of forecasts from the model created by running the model with slight perturbations to the initial conditions shows a wide range of possible tracks, both to the east over Florida, and to the west towards Texas and Louisiana (Figure 2.) The latest ECMWF model run (00 UTC) predicts that the trough will not be strong enough to pull 96L northeastwards across Florida. The ECMWF predicts that a ridge of high pressure will build in over the Southern U.S., forcing the disturbance westwards across the Gulf of Mexico and into South Texas by Thursday. The UKMET model also favors a track west towards Texas. The NOGAPS model takes 96L to the northwest into Louisiana/Texas by Monday.


Figure 2. Which way will 96L go? The GFS model, when run at low resolution with 20 slightly different perturbations to the initial conditions in order to generate an ensemble of different forecasts, shows two distinct possibilities: a sharp east turn to move over Florida, or a west or northwest motion towards Louisiana or Texas. The high-resolution official GFS forecast is shown in white.

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2051. GTcooliebai 01:23 GMT le 23 juin 2012    
If you're telling me the models are picking up on that naked swirl racing off to the NW away from the convection you have to be kidding me.

96L RGB Color Imagery Loop

And notice where the 850 mb vort. has shifted off the NE coast of the Yucatan Peninsula.

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2052. weatherh98 01:24 GMT le 23 juin 2012    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
I have a preference for global models, of which all (with the exception of the GFS) draw the future cyclone under the southern periphery of the S.E US ridge and subsequently westward.


global models are the best ones
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2053. Chicklit 01:24 GMT le 23 juin 2012    




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2054. Patrap 01:25 GMT le 23 juin 2012    
2055. Hurricanes305 01:25 GMT le 23 juin 2012    
Quoting LightningCharmer:
Looks like Naples is about to get some weather.



We are about to get nailed by some intense weather. Watch out for flooding & even some isolated tornadoes.
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2056. Patrap 01:26 GMT le 23 juin 2012    
Multiplatform Satellite Surface Wind Analysis

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2057. mynameispaul 01:26 GMT le 23 juin 2012    
Quoting kipperedherring:
NOT SO FAST Perhaps you didn't see "mynameispaul"s recent entry


Ha! I'm playing it safe and going with Dr. Master's (the expert) opinion.
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2059. floridaT 01:26 GMT le 23 juin 2012    
Quoting CosmicEvents:
If you look back on the discussions, and the blogs by Dr. Masters, it was always a matter of how long it was going to "park". Better to be earlier than later as even the NHC doesn't have the power to decide how long a cyclone is going to park near the spot where they predicted a park of anywhere from 1 to 4 days.
yhats my point i was making about this one we are all wondering when the tc will form till then its up in the air. and your right the discussions i read on this blog back during wilma really made me a fan of this blog as so many of the people here gave great explanations of whats going on the if this and if it does that
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2060. WxLogic 01:27 GMT le 23 juin 2012    
Good Evening... One thing is for sure. GFS wasn't kidding with all the convection to the E of the disturbance.
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2061. MiamiHurricanes09 01:27 GMT le 23 juin 2012    
Quoting gator23:

you have done this now 3 times and every time it just comes off as massive PAY ATTENTION TO ME! I WAS RIGHT! We have given you your kudos but stop gloating
He isn't gloating; he's pointing out facts: of which just happen to come into agreement with his analysis. Chill out sir.
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2062. Patrap 01:27 GMT le 23 juin 2012    
The water is warm,
but it's sending me shivers.
A baby is born,
crying out for attention.
Memories fade,
like looking through a fogged mirror
Decision to decisions are made and not bought
But I thought,
this wouldn't hurt a lot.
I guess not.


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2063. poikoo 01:27 GMT le 23 juin 2012    
ok! all florida casters vote. then all tx casters vote. see who wins and there ya go!:)
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2064. Chicklit 01:27 GMT le 23 juin 2012    
Link check out the short wave loop. Dare I suggest she is finally coming into her own?
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2065. MississippiWx 01:28 GMT le 23 juin 2012    
Quoting GTcooliebai:
If you're telling me the models are picking up on that naked swirl racing off to the NW away from the convection you have to be kidding me.

96L RGB Color Imagery Loop

And notice where the 850 mb vort. has shifted off the NE coast of the Yucatan Peninsula.



Well, that naked swirl is your surface circulation that formed earlier. Whether it becomes dominant or dies out with a new one forming under the strongest 850mb vort only time will tell. Either way, both looked to be bound for the same location in the North Central Gulf where they will undergo tropical cyclogenesis.
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2066. Levi32 01:28 GMT le 23 juin 2012    
2058. I didn't realize posting the latest model prognostications was considered gloating.
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2067. MississippiWx 01:29 GMT le 23 juin 2012    
Quoting gator23:

you have done this now 3 times and every time it just comes off as massive PAY ATTENTION TO ME! I WAS RIGHT! We have given you your kudos but stop gloating


You mad, bro?
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2068. TropicalAnalystwx13 01:29 GMT le 23 juin 2012    
Quoting gator23:

you have done this now 3 times and every time it just comes off as massive PAY ATTENTION TO ME! I WAS RIGHT! We have given you your kudos but stop gloating

I've noticed you criticize people a lot. Why don't you tone it down a bit? All Levi was doing was posting about the shift in models at the latest run.
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2070. 954FtLCane 01:30 GMT le 23 juin 2012    
Quoting floridaT:
that said the fl coast on the 22nd it didnt get east of 85 degrees till the 24th] look at how long it parked

yup totally parked but if I remember correctly the cone never really shifted much. Now not to say that WU wishcasters weren't saying the NHC didn't know what they were doing..lol. That was before my time on here.

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2071. bayoubug 01:30 GMT le 23 juin 2012    
for what
Quoting poikoo:
ok! all florida casters vote. then all tx casters vote. see who wins and there ya go!:)
For what it's worth i vote for LA.
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2072. weatherh98 01:30 GMT le 23 juin 2012    
Quoting gator23:

you have done this now 3 times and every time it just comes off as massive PAY ATTENTION TO ME! I WAS RIGHT! We have given you your kudos but stop gloating
you cant handle the truth
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2073. FSUCOOPman 01:30 GMT le 23 juin 2012    
Quoting GTcooliebai:
If you're telling me the models are picking up on that naked swirl racing off to the NW away from the convection you have to be kidding me.

96L RGB Color Imagery Loop

And notice where the 850 mb vort. has shifted off the NE coast of the Yucatan Peninsula.



that's a pretty significant shift in vort in that location in the last few hours (where the little dash of red is). Also where it looked like it was winding up on visible.
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2074. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 01:31 GMT le 23 juin 2012    
evening all sorry not been on had a daylight shooting in the hood here 24 year old dead from 2 shots to the chest interesting evening here cops everywhere happen just before six
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2075. gator23 01:31 GMT le 23 juin 2012    
Quoting Levi32:
2058. I didn't realize posting the latest model prognostications was considered gloating.

It wasnt that you were just pointing out models progs. You kept pointing out the ones that support your theory. And never the ones that didnt. Regardless I am entitled to my opinion.
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2076. Tropicsweatherpr 01:31 GMT le 23 juin 2012    
Levi, you think the anticyclone will align on top of the main low with time?
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2077. masonsnana 01:31 GMT le 23 juin 2012    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
He isn't gloating; he's pointing out facts: of which just happen to come into agreement with his analysis. Chill out sir.
Easy fella,, Levi is well respected here, no need for all that...
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2079. gator23 01:32 GMT le 23 juin 2012    
Quoting weatherh98:
you cant handle the truth

Well I can. He has been proven right I said that and I said kudos to him earlier.
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2080. 954FtLCane 01:32 GMT le 23 juin 2012    
Quoting LightningCharmer:
Looks like Naples is about to get some weather.


yay, perfect night to stay n an watch a TRUE BLOOD marathon :)
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2082. Levi32 01:33 GMT le 23 juin 2012    
Quoting Autistic2:
Hey Levi

You still going with the west to TX solution? LOVE your videos. Simple enough I can see and mostly understand! Thank you


Thank you :) My opinion is unchanged from this morning.
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2083. MiamiHurricanes09 01:33 GMT le 23 juin 2012    
Quoting masonsnana:
Easy fella,, Levi is well respected here, no need for all that...
I think you mayyyy of quoted the wrong person. ;)
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2084. PensacolaDoug 01:33 GMT le 23 juin 2012    
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
evening all sorry not been on had a daylight shooting in the hood here 24 year old dead from 2 shots to the chest interesting evening here cops everywhere happen just before six



That sux.
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2085. cajunkid 01:34 GMT le 23 juin 2012    
Bunch of chicken little's with bad prima donna tendencies.

not meant for you KEEPEROFTHEGATE, that sux
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2086. TropicalAnalystwx13 01:34 GMT le 23 juin 2012    
Quoting Chicklit:
Link check out the short wave loop. Dare I suggest she is finally coming into her own?

Whoa! That convection came out of nowhere!
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2087. galvestonhurricane 01:34 GMT le 23 juin 2012    
Quoting Levi32:
2058. I didn't realize posting the latest model prognostications was considered gloating.


It's not. Thank you for posting them. Good evening everyone!
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2088. MississippiWx 01:34 GMT le 23 juin 2012    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
I think you mayyyy of quoted the wrong person. ;)


No, no. You were waaaaaaay out of line.
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2089. Levi32 01:35 GMT le 23 juin 2012    
Quoting gator23:

It wasnt that you were just pointing out models progs. You kept pointing out the ones that support your theory. And never the ones that didnt. Regardless I am entitled to my opinion.


That's because the only model flips that have occurred within the past 48 hours have all been in favor of my forecast.
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2090. poikoo 01:35 GMT le 23 juin 2012    
look:) i have seen people on here that come out of the woodwork whenever a storm comes even close. but never hear from them any othertime. but like levi, and all the others, can't remember all the names but respect them. and were did storm w. go:( miss him
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2092. MAweatherboy1 01:36 GMT le 23 juin 2012    
Still not exactly round

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2093. floridaT 01:36 GMT le 23 juin 2012    
been raining here in naples all day. just got a couples hours break but looks like more comming all is good we need the water
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2094. Chicklit 01:36 GMT le 23 juin 2012    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

Whoa! That convection came out of nowhere!

Ah believe ah see a little wrap-around there but my eyes maybe playing tricks on me as they often do when pondering clouds.
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2095. gator23 01:36 GMT le 23 juin 2012    
Quoting galvestonhurricane:


He ain't mad, he stupid. Back on topic, looks like 4 storms before the end of June...

Well I didnt call anyone any names. No need for that. We can disagree without being disagreeable
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2096. galvestonhurricane 01:36 GMT le 23 juin 2012    
Quoting Levi32:


Thank you :) My opinion is unchanged from this morning.


Levi, what are your thoughts on peak intensity for 96L?
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2097. MiamiHurricanes09 01:37 GMT le 23 juin 2012    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

Whoa! That convection came out of nowhere!
That's just the transition of day and night on shortwave. It isn't that impressive on AVN.
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2098. GTcooliebai 01:37 GMT le 23 juin 2012    
Quoting Chicklit:
Link check out the short wave loop. Dare I suggest she is finally coming into her own?
Good catch, but displaced from the surface circulation.
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2099. gator23 01:37 GMT le 23 juin 2012    
Quoting Levi32:


That's because the only model flips that have occurred within the past 48 hours have all been in favor of my forecast.

Fair enough
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2100. masonsnana 01:37 GMT le 23 juin 2012    
So sorry Miami, your right and I am sorry.. hope you all know where that was directed
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